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mumukShu- jab aisI anubhUti huI tab mainne likhA ki, nau tattvase rahit mujhe nahIn huA hai. main to nau tattvase rahit hUn.

samAdhAna- vah to dravya. paryAyamen to hai. dravya shuddha hai, usakI paryAyamen ashuddhatA hai. paryAy apekShAse nau tattva hai aur dravya apekShAse svayam abhed hai. paryAyamen, usakI jo vartamAn paryAy arthAt avasthA hotI hai, usamen use puNya-pApake pariNAm hote hain. phir Age gayA isaliye samvarakI paryAy hotI hai. nirjarAkI paryAy hotI hai. vah sab paryAy, jab tak sAdhanA karatA hai, pUrNa nahIn huA hai, sAdhanA karatA hai, vahAn samvar hotA hai, nirjarA hotI hai, mokShakI paryAy hotI hai. lekin mAtra us paryAy jitanA dravya nahIn hai. dravya anAdiananta shAshvat hai, dravya anAdiananta hai. aur paryAy hai, paryAy bilakUl hai hI nahIn, aisA nahIn hai. use bhUtArtha dRuShTise dekho to abaddhaspRuShTa AtmAmen nahIn hai. na hI bandhA hai, na hI sparshit hai. sAmAnya (hai), visheSharUp nahIn hai.

jisane us dRuShTise dekhA ki, kamalinIkA patra nirlep hai. kamal pAnIse nirlep rahatA hai. lekin pAnIkI orase dekhA to vah pAnIse lipta hai. aur kamalakI orase dekho to vah lipta nahIn huA hai. aur dravyakI or dekhe to vah lipta nahIn huA hai. lekin usakI paryAyakI or dekho to vah lipta hai. yadi lipta nahIn ho to yah sukh-dukhakA vedan kise hotA hai? sah sab puruShArtha kyon karanA? bandh-mokSha kyon karanA? isaliye vah donon dRuShTi gnAnamen rakhanI. aur ek dravyakI or dekhe to svayam lipta nahIn huA hai. aur paryAyakI or dekho to vah lipta hai. lekin use bhinna karake, anAdise bhinna nahIn karatA. main lipta hUn, lipta hUn, aisA karatA rahatA hai. lekin use bhinna karake, main bhinna hI hUn, yah meremen nahIn hai. nahIn hai, aisA karatA hai to bhI khaDA rahatA hai. bhedagnAnamen pratIt kI to bhI khaDA rahatA hai, isaliye svarUpamen sthir ho jAy, sthir ho jAy, adhik sthir hotA jAy to usakA nAsh ho. sthir hotA jAya. gRuhasthAshramamen amuk prakArase sthir huA hai. phir jab muni ho jAy, bAharakA sab chhUT jAy, jangalamen chalA jAy, AtmAkA dhyAn kare, antarmuhUrta-antarmuhUrtamen AtmAmen jhulatA ho, tab use chhUTe. phir bhI thoDA rahatA hai. lekin phir ekadam svAnubhUtimense bAhar hI nahIn Aye

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aisI dashA hotI hai, tab pUrNa hotA hai. tab vah vItarAg hotA hai. tab tak vah rahatA hai. tab tak pahale usakI sAdhakadashA, samyagdarshanakI dashA hotI hai. pUrNatAke lakShyase shurUAt (hotI hai). pUrNa dravya, dravyako grahaN kar liyA. lekin abhI usakI dashA vedanamen AnandakI dashA pUrNa ho, vah bAdamen hotI hai. svAnubhUti hotI hai us vakta akelA Ananda (hotA hai). bAhar Aye to amuk prakArase shAnti rahatI hai. bAkI svAnubhUtikA Ananda vah bAhar hotA hai, tab nahIn AtA hai. svAnubhUtikA Ananda to koI alag hI hotA hai. usakA kisIke sAth mel nahIn hai.

mumukShu- aisA hI us vakta lagA thA. jagatakI koI vastu prApta kare aur Ananda nahIn ho, vaisA apUrva Ananda, ekadam bhinna prakArakA Ananda.

samAdhAna- (dravya svabhAv) to shAshvat hai. yah sab to ashuddha hai.

mumukShu- vah apanI nij shakti hai. isaliye nij svarUp shakti hai aur shaktikA vahI svarUp hai.

mumukShu- bahinashrIke vachanAmRut pustak.. mumukShu- mainne sab paDhA hai. phir mAlUm huA ki dravyako bhinna karake dekha. vah to koI alaukik bAt hai. svanyakA svayam hI jAn sake, tab itanA bole na. mujhe aisA lagatA hai ki gurudev jaisI viral shakti hamAremen bhI pragaT ho. ... yogya honeke liye paryAy bhI svatantra hai, dravya bhI svatantra hai. donon vastuen nirapekSha hain. mAno abhI .. dhAraN kar le, itanA lagatA hai ki chAritra kyon pragaT nahIn ho? .. dekhate hI nahIn. abhI chAritra grahaN kyon na karen? isIliye to pahalA prashna vah pUchhA. dUsarA kuchh nahIn. digambar nirgranth muni banakar aur chAritra grahaN karake... phir sogAnIjIkA paDhA, itanA achchhA lagA ki mAno unakI dashA aur merI dashA, jaise apane hI bhAv kyon na ho.

samAdhAna- ... shubhabhAv hain. ... vah bhI rAg hai. rAg hai lekin svayam andar bhedagnAn kare. pahale bhinna ho jAya. shraddhA kare ki main gnAyak hUn. use mukhya rakhe parantu dUsarA gauNamen to rahatA hai. kyonki jab tak pUrNa chAritra na ho, tab tak bIchamen Aye binA rahatA nahIn. chauthe kAlamen gRuhasthAshramamen shrAvak rahate the. chakravartI, bharat chakravartI Adi sab chakravartI rahate the. lekin ve AtmAko bhinna jAnate the. kShaN-kShaN bhinna jAnate the. dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA Aye to bhagavAnake darshan karane jAte, unakI pUjA karate, svAdhyAy karate, sab karate the. lekin unhen andar bhedagnAn chAlU rahatA thA. samajhe, antaramen vedan aisA hotA hai ki yah main bhinna hUn. use jAne ki main isase bhinna hUn. nirantar, aise sirpha bolanemAtra nahIn, vikalpamAtra nahIn, lekin andarase rahA kare kiaimain

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bhinna hI hUn, bhinna hI hUn, aisA use rahatA hai. lekin use sahajarUpase jab tak chAritra nahIn AtA hai, tab tak rahatA hai. chAritra use sahaj AtA hai. yadi use haTh karake le to mushkil ho jAtA hai. isaliye sahaj AtA hai. sahaj AtA hai.

mumukShu- svarUp sahaj hai isaliye..

samAdhAna- isaliye sahaj AnA chAhiye. kyonki svayamko vikalpa nahIn dikhatA ki gnAyakako mukhya karun, parantu andar vikalpa paDe hain. hote hain sUkShma-sUkShma. andar jo rAg paDA hai, vah use khaDA hotA hai. isaliye use sahaj AnA chAhiye. bAkI to bharat chakravartI to arIsA bhUvanamen kShaN bhar khaDe the, aur saphed bAl dekhA to vairAgya ho gayA. ekadam antaramen Utar gaye aur kevalagnAn ho gayA. lekin utanI dashA andar sahaj AnI chAhiye. chAritra len, aisI bhAvanA Aye lekin antar sahaj AnA chAhiye.

mumukShu- utanA bal uchhalanA chAhiye. uttara- bhAvanA bhale ugra ho jAy ki chAritra le lUn, lekin andar utanA sahaj AnA chAhiye. svayam sahaj Tik sake utanA nahIn Aye to pahale use ekadam bhAv A jAye, sab chhUT bhI jAye, likan antaramense AnA chAhiye, antaramense sahaj AnA chAhiye.

mumukShu- gnAyak hI gney hai, gnAyak hI gney hai. bAhar terA gney hI nahIn hai, par gnAt hI nahIn hotA.

samAdhAna- gnAyak bhale gnAt hotA ho, gnAyak hI gnAt hotA hai, par gnAt nahIn hotA, lekin gnAyakakA svabhAv jAnanekA hai. usak upayog rakhakar nahIn jAnatA, bhale vah rAgase nahIn jAne, rAgase judA ho, lekin vah gnAyak hai. gnAyak hai, antaramen yadi vItarAgadashA ho to binA ichchhA sahajarUpase lokAlokako jAne aisA hI usakA svabhAv hai. jAnanekA svabhAv hai. gnAyak-jAnanevAlA kise kahate hain? usamen itanA jAne aur nahIn jAne aisA nahIn hotA, vah sab jAnatA hai. aisA usakA jAnanekA svabhAv hai. ananta-ananta jAnanekA svabhAv hai. is lokake ananta dravya, ananta kShetra, ananta kAl, ananta bhAv, jitane ananta jIv hain, un sabakA jAne aisA usakA svabhAv hai. lekin vah use rAg rakhakar jAnatA hai vah usakI bhUl hai. isaliye bhale use akelA gnAyak gnAt hotA ho, lekin gnAyakakA jAnanekA svabhAv hai. vah jab pUrA hotA hai tab vah sab jAne, aisA usakA gnAyak svabhAv hai. bhUt kAlamen kyA thA, vartamAnamen kyA hai, bhaviShyamen kyA hogA, sab jAne aisA gnAyakakA svabhAv hai. aisA gnAyak hai, mahimAvant gnAyak hai. akelA gnAyak gnAt ho, shraddhAmen gnAt huA ki main gnAyaka. lekin gnAyak

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gnAyakarUp ho jAnA chAhiye. gnAyak gnAyakarUpase shraddhAmen huA. usakI pariNatimen anshamen huA, Anshik huA lekin pUrNa honeke liye use prayAs chAhiye. binA prayAs nahIn hotA.

mumukShu- vah kaisA prayAs?

samAdhAna- bArambAr gnAyak.. gnAyak.. gnAyak.. gnAyaka. use sahajarUpase gnAyak gnAyak honA chAhiye. gnAyak gnAyak karate-karate vah Age baDhe to akelA gnAyak ho jAtA hai. sabake bIch, vibhAvake bIch rahA to hai hI. vikalpa Ate hain, vikalpake bIch rahA hai, lekin vikalpase bhinna huA. lekin use gnAyak.. gnAyak.. gnAyakakI ugratA ho jAy to vah hotA hai. gnAyakakI ugratA honI chAhiye, sahajarUpase.

jo gnAyak honevAlA hai, usakI dashA hI alag hotI hai. use AhArakA vikalpa chhUT jAy, chalanekA vikalpa chhUT jAy, vah pUrA bhinna ho jAtA hai, use sab vikalpa chhUT jAte hain. use AhArakA, nidrAkA sab vikalpa chhUT jAya. aisA gnAyak ho jAy, (jab) gnAyakakI ugratA hotI hai (tab). lekin pahale to usakI shraddhA hotI hai. usakI shraddhA ho, usakI pariNati ho, usakI svAnubhUti ho, lekin use pUrNa honemen to bahut prayAs hotA hai tab hotA hai.

mumukShu- shraddhAkA svabhAv to aisA hai ki ekako hI grahaN karatI hai.

samAdhAna- ek gnAyakako grahaN karatI hai.

mumukShu- yA to bAharakA, yA to..

samAdhAna- main gnAyak hUn, aise grahaN kare. lekin gnAn sab jAnatA hai. shraddhAmen to aisA AtA hai ki main gnAyak hUn. kShaN-kShaNamen gnAyak hUn, aisA grahaN kiyA. lekin gnAnamen jAnatA hai ki abhI vikalpa khaDe hain. vikalpa khaDe hain tab tak gnAyakakI dashA pUrNa nahIn hai. abhI vikalpa khaDe hain tab tak gnAyakakI dashA pUrI nahIn hai. vikalpa meremen nahIn hai vah barAbar, vikalpa nahIn hai vah barAbar, lekin main gnAyak hUn, gnAyak- gnAyak karatA hai phir bhI abhI vikalpa khaDe hain, vah use gnAnamen rahatA hai. tab tak mujhe prayAs karanA hai. vikalpa hai tab tak prayAs karanA bAkI hai. gnAyak-gnAyak bhale gnAyak dikhatA ho, dUsarA kuchh nahIn dikhAI de, phir bhI vikalpa khaDe hain vah to svayam jAnatA hai ki vikalpa to khaDe hain, isaliye abhI prayAs bAkI hai. prayAs karanA bAkI hai. bhale gnAyak dikhAI de, phir bhI vikalpa to hai. isaliye prayAs karanekA bAkI hai.

mumukShu- nirvikalpa honA hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, nirvikalpa honekA bAkI hai. pUrNa nirvikalpa. phir vikalpa hI

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utpanna na ho, aisA nirvikalpa. ek kShaN vikalpa chhUT jAy aisA nahIn, vikalpa utpanna hI na ho. aisA ho to pUrNa hotA hai. pUrNa honA is kAlamen bahut mushkil hai. abhI to use shraddhA-samyagdarshan ho, phir Age baDhanA, sahaj Age baDhanA (kaThin hai).

mumukShu- shraddhA aur gnAnamen Apako doSh dikhatA hai?

samAdhAna- ApakA adhik parichay karun to mujhe mAlUm paDe. bAkI Ap bolate ho usamen to..

mumukShu- main kal Apake pAs AUngI.

samAdhAna- ... usakI shraddhA bhI antaramense AnI chAhiye. bahut prakAr hote hain. vikalpase shraddhA kare, antarase shraddhA kare, phir vibhAvako gauN kare lekin antaramen abhI karanekA bahut bAkI rahatA hai. bahut karanekA bAkI hai.

mumukShu- sab karanA hai, chAhe jitanA bAkI kyon na ho.

samAdhAna- lekin gnAyakakI dashA, svAnubhUtikI dashA.. antaramen jo karanA hai, usamen bAharase kuchh karanA nahIn hotA, antaramen svayamko karanA hai.

mumukShu- Apako mainne dekhA nahIn thA, lekin Apake hRudayakA khyAl thA. kal rAtako mainne itanI prArthanA ki thI, gurudev! bahinashrIkI vANImen Akar mujhe samajhAnA. itanA... ham aise kUtteke pillakI bhAnti gurudevake charaNamen baiThen...

samAdhAna- unakI Tepamen pahADI aur lokhanDI AvAj lagatI hai, gurudevako sAkShAt dekhe hon to kyA lage?

mumukShu- itanA aphasos hotA hai, lekin kyA ho?

samAdhAna- Tepamense itanI asar hotI hai..

mumukShu- itanA aphasos rahatA hai, kyA karen?

samAdhAna- kyA kare? svayamko puNya nahIn the to mil nahIn sake. puNyakI bAt hai, kyA ho?

mumukShu- usake liye to main kitanI rotI hUn. sirpha is ek bAtake liye, vANI sunate-sunate. dekhe binA kaise shraddhA ho? jain nahIn ho, dekhe nahIn ho, kise aisI shraddhA ho?

samAdhAna- hajAron logommen gurudevakA pahADI AvAj, log samajhe, na samajhe lekin mugdha hokar Ashcharyachakit hokar sunate the. AtmA.. AtmA.. AtmA shabda Aye, sunate. hajAron logommen unhonne vyAkhyA diye hain.

mumukShu- .. pravachan thA to yah shabda, gurudevake yah shabda, par jAnanemen nahIn AtA, bhagavAn AtmA, tere har upayogamen bhagavAn AtmA tujhe jAnanemen A rahA hai,

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aur tU gneyako dekh rahA hai? bhagavAnako pITh dikhAtA hai? main to pravachanamen kitanA kahatI hUn. aisI hI shaktise.

samAdhAna- bhAvanA ... bahut ugra... sarvagna svabhAvakI shraddhA karake Age jAnA bAkI rahatA hai. pahale shraddhAkA bal Aye, phir Age baDhanA hai.

mumukShu- Age baDhaneke liye hI koI sachchA satasamAgam chAhiye. main vahI kahatI hUn.

samAdhAna- Ap bArambAr malAD jAiye. muumukShu- Apane yah AgnA dI hai, main jAUngI. lekin is prakAr pahale log kitanI hI jagah dikhAte hain ...

samAdhAna- ... to bhI vikalpa khaDA rahatA hai. to bhI vikalpa khaDA rahatA hai.

mumukShu- sachchI bAt hai. isIliye tRupti nahIn hotI.

samAdhAna- shraddhA kI to bhI tRupti to hotI nahIn.

mumukShu- isIliye to pUchhanA paDatA hai.

samAdhAna- meremen nahIn hai, gnAyak hUn. aisI shraddhA kI ki meremen kuchh nahIn hai, vah bAt sachchI hai. nahIn hai, phir bhI khaDA hai. ab use TAlanekA (prayatna karanA).

mumukShu- isIliye to ham tRupta nahIn hote hain. abhI aisA lagatA hai ki abhI bAkI hai, bAkI hai. yah ho gayA aur tRupta ho gaye, ab kuchh (nahIn karanA hai), aisA nahIn hai. tRupti nahIn hotI, isIliye to yah...

samAdhAna- vAnchanamen jAo to pharka paDegA. chImanabhAI paDhate hain, unake vAnchanamen jAo.

mumukShu- to bhI kyon jIvako samyagdarshan nahIn hotA?

samAdhAna- sachchI deshanAlabdhi huI ho to samyagdarshan hotA hI hai. deshanAlabdhi sachchI huI ho to samyagdarshan hotA hai. bhale hI der lage, lekin hotA hI hai. deshanAlabdhike sAth to sambandha hai. sAkShAt satpuruShakA upadesh use prApta ho, sAkShAt mile, shAstra nahIn, sAkShAt mile aur antaramen yadi vah utAre to deshanAlabdhi hotI hai. aur deshanAlabdhi jise ho use bhale hI us vakta nahIn, parantu kAlAntaramen bhI samyagdarshan hotA hai.

nishchayakA grahaN karake sAthamen jo paryAy hai, use jAnanekI AvashyakatA hai. jo hai usamen kaun-sA, kis prakArakA vah DhUnDhanA paDatA hai. use antarase aisI bhAvanA hotI hai. gurudev mile nahIn hai isaliye unhen aisA (hotA hai). ham yahAn barasonse rahe. unakI

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gunj sunAI detI hai. karanA svayamko antaramen hai. apanI bhAvanA ho vah bhaviShyamen phalatI hai, abhI nahIn phale to, bhaviShyamen phalegI.

mumukShu- bahut dhIrajakA kAm hai. samAdhAna- hAn, dhairya rakhanekI jarUrat hai. mumukShu- dhIraj aur vaisI kI vaisI ruchi. samAdhAna- dhairya rakhanA hai. mumukShu- ek shuddhAtmA...