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mumukShu- .. hotA hai, rAg bhI hai, vikalpa bhI hai aur sAth-sAth gnAnakA nirNay bhI hotA hai ki main yahI hUn, yahI hUn. to gnAyakakA nirNay bahut gaharAImen jAy to vah barAbar hai? vikalpake sAtha.

samAdhAna- vikalpa sAthamen hotA hai. parantu pahale vikalpa sAthamen hotA hai aur nirNay hotA hai. vikalpa chhUTakar bAdamen hotA hai. vikalpa sAthamen hotA hai. main yah gnAyak hUn, parantu apane lakShaNako barAbar pahachAnanA chAhiye ki yah gnAnalakShaN hai vahI main hUn. yah vikalpa main nahIn hUn. vikalpa Aye vah merA svarUp nahIn hai. jo-jo vibhAv hai vah sab AkUlatAsvarUp hai. vah merA svarUp nahIn hai. main usase bhinna gnAyak hUn. usakA lakShaN barAbar pahachAnanA chAhiye. usakA lakShaN pahachAnakar nirNay karanA chAhiye.

jignAsAse nirNay kare parantu pahale jo nirNay AtA hai, vah nirNay andar bhinna hokar nirNay hotA hai tab use yathArtha nirNay kahanemen AtA hai. tab tak use vikalpa sahitakA nirNay kahanemen AtA hai. hotA hai, gaharA nirNay hotA hai, phir bhI abhI gnAyakakI bhedagnAnakI dhArA nahIn hotI, tab tak yathArtha rUpase nahIn kahA jAtA. pahale vikalpa sahit nirNay hotA hai.

muumukShu- vikalpamen to khyAl AtA hai ki yah bAt barAbar hai, karanA yahI hai. dUsarA jo bhI karate hain vah barAbar nahIn hai. manamen itanA vishvAs bhI AtA hai. lekin vishvAs TikatA nahIn hai aur bAhar chalA jAtA hai. bAharakI pravRuttimen adhik ruchi kar letA hai. khyAl hone par bhI aisA hotA hai.

samAdhAna- svayamke puruShArthakI mandatA hai. vikalpa sahitakA nirNay hai, parantu abhI andarase svayam bhinna hokar, Anshik bhinna hokar lakShaN pahachAnakar nirNay nahIn huA hai, isaliye vah bAhar jAtA hai. ruchi bAhar chalI jAtI hai. vah sab andar apane puruShArthakI mandatA hai, isaliye hotA hai. andarase yathArtha bhedagnAnakI dhArA ho, gnAyakako andarase pahachAne to svayamkA astitva grahaN kare to vah jyAdA bAhar nahIn jA sakatA. lekin vah to sthUl nirNay kiyA hai, andar lakShaNako pahachAnakar nirNay nahIn kiyA hai. andar yathArtha nirNay nahIn huA hai. parantu jab tak vah nahIn hotA hai tab tak

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aisA sthUl nirNay AtA hai. lekin abhI puruShArthakI mandatA hai, isaliye bAhar jAtA hai.

mumukShu- bhedagnAn kaise karanA? vichAramen to AtA hai, parantu andaramen vAstavamen kaise bhedagnAn karanA?

samAdhAna- apanA lakShaN pahachAne ki yah jAnanevAlA hai vahI main hUn. yah jAnanevAlA main hUn, yah sharIr jaD kuchh jAnatA nahIn. yah jo vikalpa Ate hain, vah svayam svayamko jAnate nahIn, andar jAnanevAlA bhinna hai. jAnanevAlA bhinna hai, usakA lakShaN barAbar pahachAnakar, usakA astitva grahaN kare ki yah gnAyak hai vahI main hUn. lakShaN dvArA pUre gnAyakako grahaN karake, yah gnAyak hai vahI main hUn, aisA nakkI karake gnAyakamen dRuDhatA rakhakar bArambAr gnAyakake astitvako aise grahaN kare ki usase bhinna hI nahIn ho. bArambAr jo vikalpa Aye usase main bhinna hUn, bhinna hUn. aisI pariNatiko andarase dRuDh kare to andaramen bhedagnAn ho.

... bhinna paDe ki yah gnAyak main hUn, yah vikalpa main nahIn. yah gnAyak main hUn, main yah nahIn hUn. is prakAr bArambAr gnAyakakI pariNatiko dRuDh kare. bArambAr usakA abhyAs kare. jabatak nahIn ho tabatak abhyAs kare, bhAvanA kare, jignAsA kare. bArambAr usakI laganI lagAye. jabatak nahIn ho tabatak bArambAr aise karatA hI rahe. usakI mahimA, usakA lakShaN pahachAne, usakA vichAr, sab vahI bArambAr karatA rahe, jabatak nahIn hotA tabataka. bArambAr usakA prayAs karatA rahe. nahIn ho tabatak bArambAr karatA rahe. nirNay chhUT jAy to bhI bArambAr dRuDh karatA rahe. bArambAr bhedagnAn karatA rahe. upAy ek hI hai.

apane astitvako grahaN karake, usakI dRuDhatA karake bArambAr use grahaN kare. bArambAr usakI dRuDhatA karatA rahe. bArambAr vah chhUT na jAy isaliye bArambAr usakA prayatna karatA rahe. ek hI karanA hai. jo muktiko prApta hue, ve bhedagnAnase hI prApta hue hain. jo nahIn hue hain, ve bhedagnAnake abhAvase nahIn hue hain. bhedagnAn karanekA bArambAr prayatna karate rahanA. yah gnAyak hI main hUn aur yah sab main nahIn hUn. aise svayamke astitvako grahaN karake dRuDhatA karatA rahe, bArambAra. bArambAr dRuDhatA karaneke bAd vikalpa chhUTate hain. tab tak usane svayamko barAbar grahaN nahIn kiyA hai to usakA vikalpa bhI kaise chhUTe? vikalpamen hI ghumatA rahatA hai. ekamense dUsaremen, dUsaremense tIsaremen. shubhAshubh, shubhAshubhake vikalpamen hI palaTA khAtA rahatA hai. is or palaTA khAtA hai, is or palaTA nahIn khAtA. gnAyakakI or palaTatA nahIn hai aur is or anAdise palaTatA rahatA hai. anAdise shubhAshubh bhAvommen palaTA khAtA rahatA hai.

mumukShu- andarakA vikalpa kaise karanA? bAharakA hI hotA hai.

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samAdhAna- gnAyakako grahaN karanekI or (jAnA hai). vikalpa nahIn karanekA hai, parantu gnAyakakI or jAnA hai. pariNatikA palaTA honA chAhiye.

mumukShu- vah kaise?

samAdhAna- andar jignAsA kare, andar laganI lagI ho to andar gaye binA rahe hI nahIn. svayamko kahIn chain nahIn paDe, bAhar kahIn ruche nahIn, kahIn rukanA achchhA lage nahIn. kShaN-kShaNamen mujhe gnAyak kaise pahachAnamen Aye? mujhe gnAyak kaise pahachAnamen Aye? utanI laganI lage to vah palaTA khAya. antaramense laganI laganI chAhiye, to palaTA khAya. utanI laganI lagI nahIn hai, utanI gnAyakakI mahimA nahIn AtI hai. bAharase utanI tuchchhatA nahIn lagatI hai. to palaTA kahAnse ho? andar svayamko laganA chAhiye.

.. prApta kar lete hain. nahIn prApta karate hain unhen der lagatI hai. shivabhUti kuchh nahIn jAnate the. bAI dAl dho rahI thI. chhilakA alag, dAl alaga. aisA karake, merA AtmA bhinna aur yah vibhAv bhinna. aisA karake antaramen Utar gaye. antaramense pragaT kiyA. jyAdA nahIn jAnate the to bhI.

mumukShu- hamen vishvAs AtA hai vah to antarase hI AtA hai. abhI jitane vichAr Ate hain, vah antarase hI Ate hain, aisA nahIn hai ki Upar-Uparase Ate hain.

samAdhAna- vah to antarase Aye, vAstavamen to andar svabhAvamense AnA chAhiye. yah satya hai, aisA svayamko antarase AtA ho, parantu svabhAv grahaN karake Aye vah alag bAt hai. vah alag bAt hai.

mumukShu- kisIko kShaNamen A jAtA hai, kisIko nahIn AtA hai, usamen ...?

samAdhAna- usamen svayamke puruShArthakI mandatA hai. kisIko jaldI hotA hai, kisIko der lagatI hai. svayamkI mandatA hai. karma to nimitta mAtra hai, vah kuchh nahIn kar sakatA. na ho tabatak bhagavAnane kyA kahA hai? gurudevane kyA kahA hai? shAstramen kyA AtA hai? usakA vichAr, usakA vAnchan, usakA svAdhyAy bArambAr karatA rahe aur gnAyak kaise pahachAnun, usakI bArambAr jignAs kare aur bArambAr laganI lagAye.

mumukShu- jabatak andaramen ruchi nahIn lagatI, hamen to vahI lagatA hai. bAhar bahut ruchi ho jAtI hai, bAhya bhAvommen. to aisA lagatA hai ki andaramen nahIn AtI. hamAre manamen aisA lagatA hai.

samAdhAna- antarakI ruchi ho, vah bAharamen utanA tanmay nahIn hotA hai. jise antarakI lagI ho, gnAyakakI mahimA, use vibhAvase to kuchh had tak vairAgya A jAy, yah sab tuchchha hai, sArabhUt nahIn hai. sArabhUt to AtmA hai. utanA tanmay ho jAy to antaramense kam ho jAy, vah to sIdhI bAt hai. bAharamen utanA tanmay ho jAy

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to. antar khaTak rahanI chAhiye ki yah sab hai, vah sArabhUt nahIn hai. andar svayamko hove nahIn, lekin khaTak to laganI chAhiye ki yah sab sArabhUt nahIn hai, sArabhUt to merA AtmA hai. aise khaTak laganI chAhiye. usakA artha yah hai ki jyAdA khaTak honI chAhiye. mAtra khaTakase kuchh nahIn hotA, isaliye tIvra khaTak laganI chAhiye.

... kArya kahAnse Aye? kAraN thoDA (ho tat) kArya nahIn AtA. jitanA usakA kAraN de utanA hI kArya Aye. andar jitanI svayamko lagI ho, andar jignAsA, laganI lagI ho, utanA andar svayam puruShArtha kare to kArya Aye. kAraN binA kArya kahAnse Aye? Ananda (Adi) sab AtmAmen hI bharA hai. bAhar jAtA hai utanI svayamkI kShati hai ki bAhar ekatva hokar, tanmay hokar jAtA hai.

... sAdhakako avalamban to dRuShTimen hotA hai. shraddhAke andar shuddhAtma dravyakA Alamban honA chAhiye. jo shuddhAtmA anAdianant svayam dravya vastu hai, vah vastu shuddha svarUp hI hai. us vastukA avalamban sAdhakako hotA hai. arthAt mUl avalamban to use shuddhAtmAkA hai, parantu antaramen sthir nahIn ho sakatA hai isaliye upayog bAhar AtA hai. isaliye bAharamen dev-guru-shAstrake shubhabhAvamen hai. aur shubhabhAvakA avalamban hai vah vyavahAramen hai. antaramen nishchayakA avalamban shuddhAtmAkA hai. bAharamen shubhabhAvamen bAhar Aye to jinendradev, guru aur shAstra (kA avalamban hotA hai). parantu mUl avalamban to shuddhAtmAkA hai. use dravya par hI dRuShTi rahatI hai. gnAyak par hI dRuShTi rahatI hai (ki) main yah shuddhAtmA hUn. usake sivA sab mujhase bhinna hai, sab par hai.

... main gnAyak hI hUn, is prakAr gnAyak par hI dRuShTi (rahatI hai). bAharamen upayog jAye to bhI usakI dRuShTi to gnAyak par hI rahatI hai. bAhar shubhabhAv Aye to bhI use dRuShTi to ek gnAyak par hI rahatI hai. gnAyakakA avalamban use chhUTatA hI nahIn. gnAyakakA Ashray to use sadA rahatA hI hai. upayog bAhar Aye to shubhabhAvamen dev- guru-shAstra, jinhonne pUrNatA prApta kI aise dev aur guru jo sAdhanA karate hain, aur shAstrommen jo vastukA svarUp batAyA hai, usakA alamban use vyavahArase shubhabhAvamen hotA hai. parantu us vakta bhI shubhabhAv merA svarUp nahIn hai, main usase bhinna hUn. aisI dRuShTi aur gnAn use sAthamen vartate hain. aur Anshik gnAyakakI pariNati bhI sAthamen hotI hai. use bhedagnAnakI dhArA sadA vartatI hI hai, bAhar upayog Aye to bhI.

main, in sab bhAvonse bhinna shuddhAtmA hUn. gnAyakakI dhArA sadA vartatI hai. udayadhArA aur gnAnadhArA donon sAthamen vartatI hai. bAharamen shubhabhAvamen dev-guru-shAstrakA avalamban hotA hai. andar pUrNatA prApta nahIn ho, andar pUrNarUpase sthir nahIn ho sakatA hai, gnAyakakI pariNati pragaT huyI, lekin usamen pUrNa lInatA nahIn hotI hai isaliye upayog bAhar

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AtA hai. shubhabhAvamen dev-guru-shAstrakA avalamban hotA hai.

mumukShu- anubhav nahIn huA hai, aise jIvakI kaisI paristhiti hotI hai?

samAdhAna- jise anubhav nahIn huA hai, use bhI mujhe shuddhAtmA kaise grahaN ho, usakI jignAsA aur ruchi rahA kare. mujhe gnAyak kaise samajhamen Aye? gnAyakakA yathArtharUpase avalamban (kaise ho)? main shuddhAtmA hUn, usakA avalamban mujhe kaise Aye aur yathArtha rUpase vah pariNati kaise pragaT ho, usakI bhAvanA andar rahe. vichAronse nirNay kare ki main gnAyak hI hUn. yah shubhAshubh bhAv merA svarUp nahIn hai. aise vichArase nakkI kiyA lekin yathArtha avalamban kaise ho? usakI bhAvanA ho, usakI ruchi rahe, usakI khaTak rahe. use nirantar khaTak rahA kare ki mujhe gnAyakakA avalamban kais prApta ho? usakI ruchi rahA kare.

antaramen vah pragaT nahIn huA hai to bAharamen use dev-guru-shAstrakA avalamban hotA hai. bhagavAnane jo prApta kiyA, guuru sAdhanA karate hain, shAstra mArga batAte hain. shubhabhAvamen use dev-guru-shAstra (kA avalamban hotA hai), lekin antaramen use khaTak rahatI hai (ki) mujhe shuddhAtmA kaise grahaN ho? use rahatA hI hai. antaramen aisI ruchi rahatI hai. mumukShuko andarase khaTak nahIn jAtI ki mujhe shuddhAtmA kaise grahaN ho? bAharamen ashubhabhAvase bachaneko vah shubhabhAvamen khaDA rahatA hai. jinendradevakI mahimA, shAstrakA chintavan, gurukI mahimA Adi sab use hotA hai.

sab kAyAme juDatA hai. jinendra devake, guruke, shAstrake sab kAyAmen juDatA hai. jinhonne pragaT kiyA un par use bhakti Aye binA nahIn rahatI, isaliye vah sab kAyAmen juDatA hai. bhagavAnakA, gurukI prabhAvanA, gurukI sevA, gurukI bhakti, gurune kyA kahA hai, gurune kyA mArga batAyA hai, usake vichAr, shAstramen kyA AtA hai, tattvake vichAr andar Ate rahe. dravya-guN-paryAy, AtmAkA svarUp, paradravyakA kyA svarUp, tattvake vichAr Ate rahe. vah sab use hotA hai. ... palaTatA hai. ashubhabhAvamense shubhabhAvamen dishA palaTatA hai aur shuddhAtmAkI khaTak andar rahA karatI hai.

mumukShu- shuddhAtmAkI mahimA..

samAdhAna- shuddhAtmA to mahimAsvarUp hI hai. sab chaitanyamen bharA hai, chaitanya ananta guNonse bharapUr hai. anupam tattva hai. use kisIkI upamA lAgU nahIn paDatI. jagatake kisI bhI padArthakI upamA chaitanyako-shuddhAtmAko lAgU nahIn paDatI. usakA gnAn anupam, usakA Ananda anupam, usake ananta guN anupama. chaitanya to anupam tattva hai, use koI upamA lAgU nahIn paDatI. aisA anupam tattva hai. usakI mahimA use AnI chAhiye ki yah sab sArabhUt nahIn hai, sArabhUt merA AtmA hai aur vah anupam hai. jagatakI koI vastu

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anupam nahIn hai. jagatake koI padArtha anupam nahIn hai ki mahimA yogya nahIn hai. parantu merA AtmA ek anupam hai, jise koI upamA nahIn dI jAtI. aisI mahimA Aye, andar chaitanyakI-shuddhAtmAkI mahimA Aye, bAharase haTe, mahimAvAlA padArtha ho to yah ek merA chaitanya shuddhAtmA chaitanyadev mahimAvant hai.

bhagavAnane jo prApta kiyA, guru jo sAdhanA karate hain, vah padArtha koI anupam hai. gurudev jo vANImen kah rahe hain, AtmAkI mahimA prakAshate hain, shAstramen usakI mahimA AtI hai, shAstramen usakA svarUp Aye, gurukI vANImen Aye vah padArtha koI alag hai. aise antaramense svayam vichAr karake nakkI karake usakI svayamkI mahimA antaramen Aye. arthAt use pragaT karanekA svayam prayatna kare. usake binA chain paDe nahIn. usIkI laganI lage, usIkA bArambAr raTan, yAd (kare), bArambAr usake vichAr kare.

mumukShu- .. AtmAkI mahimA-gnAyakakI mahimA aur bAharamen dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA. ek sva hai aur ek par hai. abhiprAyamen donon mahimA ekasAth kaise Tik sake?

samAdhAna- abhiprAy chaitanyakA hai. abhiprAyamen chaitanyakI mahimA hai aur dev- guru-shAstrakI use mahimA to hai. mahimAvant padArtha to main hUn aur mahimAvant padArtha jo hai use dev-guru-shAstrane pragaT kiyA hai. isaliye usakI mahimA use AtI hai. donon sAth Tik sakate hain. bAharakA jo hai vah to upayogarUp hotA hai. yah antar abhiprAyamen hai. abhiprAyamen shuddhAtmAkI mahimA (hai).

jo shuddhAtmA hai vah mahimAvant hai. aisA mahimAvant padArtha bhagavAnane prApta kiyA hai aur guru usakI sAdhan kar rahe haiain, shAstrommen usakA varNan AtA hai. isaliye usakI mahimA Aye binA rahatI hI nahIn. jisakI mahimA mujhe lagI, vah mahimAvant padArtha jisane prApta kiyA, us par usakI mahimA Aye binA nahIn rahatI. unako vah dikhAI detA hai, andaramen svayam to nahIn dekh sakatA hai. antaramen svayam vichAr karake antaramen jAye tab use usakI svAnubhUti hotI hai.

yah to bhagavAnane prApta kiyA hai, gurukI vANImen AtA hai. jinhonne prApta kiyA hai usakI mahimA use AtI hai. aisA padArtha jinhonne prApta kiyA ve dhanya hain, ve pUjane yogya hain. sAthamen rahanemen koI dikkat nahIn hai. vah to upayogamen AtA hai aur yah andar abhiprAyamen hai.

mumukShu- ek abhiprAyamen AtA hai aur ek upayogamen AtA hai. is prakAr do prakAramen pharka paDA.

samAdhAna- hAn, do prakAramen pharka hai. shraddhA donon par hai. shraddhAmen donon hai. shuddhAtmA

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bhI mahimAvant hai aur dev-guru-shAstra bhI mahimAvant hai. lekin upayogamen to bAhar ho tab bAharamen upayog hai. antaramen to abhI svayam gayA nahIn.

mumukShu- AshankA aisI hotI hai ki sva aur par dononkI mahimA ekasAth kaise rah sake?

samAdhAna- ek shraddhAmen rahatA hai aur ek upayogamen AtA hai, bAhar hotA hai taba. svayamkI mahimA Aye. bhagavAnakI mahimA Aye aur apanI AtI hai. aise bhI AtA hai, bhagavAnako pahachAne vah svayamko pahachAne, svayamko pahachAne vah bhagavAnako pahachAnatA hai. bhagavAnake dravya-guN-paryAyako pahachAne vah svayamko pahachAnatA hai. svayamke dravya-guN-paryAyako pahachAnatA hai vah bhagavAnako pahachAnatA hai. aisA nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha hai. lekin use sAthamen rahanemen dikkat nahIn hai. ek shraddhAmen rahatA hai, ek upayogamen rahatA hai.