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mumukShu- dIkShA lenese pahale jAtismaraN hotA hai. vairAgyakA nimitta banatA hogA yA aur kuchh?

samAdhAna- unhen vikalpa AtA hai. dIkShAke pahale jAtismaraN hotA hI hai. aisA niyam hai. nimitta kuchh bhI bane, parantu andar hotA hai. dIkShA bhAv utpanna hote hain isaliye jAtismaraN hotA hai.

mumukShu- jAtismaraN vairAgyakI vRuddhikA (kAraN banatA hai)?

samAdhAna- vairAgya-vRuddhikA kAraN banatA hai. shAstramen AtA hai na? vairAgya-vRuddhikA kAraN banatA hai. pUrvake dukhonko yAd karake bahut jIvonko vairAgya AtA hai. bhavonko yAd karake bahut jIvonko vairAgya AtA hai. vairAgyakA nimitta banatA hai. jo us or muDe use vairAgyakA kAraN banatA hai. AtmAkI or muDanevAlA hotA hai, use vairAgyakA kAraN banatA hai.

mumukShu- jAtismaraN AtmaprAptimen nimitta banatA hogA?

samAdhAna- jo AtmAkI or muDanevAlA ho use nimitta kahanamen AtA hai. shAstramen bahut kAraN Ate hain na? anek jAtake kAraN Ate hain. jAtismaraN, amuk devakI Ruddhi, yah-vah, aise bahut kAraN Ate hain. usamen ek jAtismaraN bhI kAraN AtA hai. jIv apanI or muDe use kAraN banatA hai. sabako kAraN bane hI aisA nahIn hotA. sabako vairAgyakA kAraN bane, aisA bhI nahIn hotA. laukikamen bahutonko hotA hai, sabako hotA hai, aisA nahIn. jo AtmAkI or muDanevAlA hotA hai, use kAraN banatA hai. bhavAntaronko yAd karake jise vairAgya AnA hotA hai, use vairAgyakA kAraN banatA hai. is jIvane ananta janma-maraN kiye hain. yah jIv ananta paribhramaN karatA A rahA hai. AtmA shAshvat hai. jo AtmArthI apanI or muDanevAlA hotA hai, use kAraN banatA hai.

mumukShu- tIrthankar bhagavAnako janmase avadhignAn to hotA hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, avadhignAn hotA hai, phir jAtismaraN hotA hai.

mumukShu- jAtismaraNase bhI visheSh spaShTatA avadhignAnamen hotI hai?

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samAdhAna- avadhignAn to pratyakSha hai, phir bhI jAtismaraN hotA hai. bhagavAnako to sab gnAn pragaT hote hain.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! samakit jyAdA sAl Tike to gADh hotA jAtA hai. vaisA jAtismaraNagnAn jyAdA sAl Tike to usamen koI pheraphAr hotA hai?

samAdhAna- samyagdarshan jyAdA sAl Tike to gADh hotA jAtA hai, vah to usakI pariNati dRuDh hotI hai, vah apane kAraNase hotI hai. vaise jAtismaraN dRuDh hotA jAtA hai, vah sab apane kAraNase hotA hai. jAtismaraNake kAraNase vah hotA hai, aisA nahIn hai, parantu apane puruShArthake kAraNase hotA hai. samyagdarshan jyAdA sAl TikatA hai vah apane kAraNase banatA hai.

mumukShu- jAtismaraNake Tikanemen bhI puruShArtha hai?

samAdhAna- sabamen puruShArtha to hotA hI hai. prayatnase nahIn hotA, sahaj hotA hai.

mumukShu- jAtismaraNamen vRuddhi hotI hai? usamen vRuddhi kaise hotI hai?

samAdhAna- nirmal pariNatike kAraNase hotI hai. kaise hotA hai, vah to sahaj hai. matikI nirmalatAse hotI hai.

mumukShu- ek bAr yAd to A gayA hai, phir usamen vRuddhi ho, vah kaise?

samAdhAna- matikI nirmalatAse hotI hai.

mumukShu- adhik spaShTatApUrvak yAd AtA hai?

samAdhAna- vah sab matikI nirmalatAke (kAraN hotA hai). svayam AtmAkI sAdhanA sAdhatA-sAdhatA jo jIv Age baDhatA hai, usamen koI bhI pariNatikI nirmalatA baDhane par hotA hai. svarUpamen lInatA karate-karate koI pariNatikI nirmalatA ho to us nirmalatAse hotA hai.

mumukShu- jise pUrva bhavakA jAtismaraNagnAn ho, use bIchamen is janmase pahaleke .. koI smaraN hotA hai? kyonki shrImadamen aisA AtA hai, is jIvako pUrva bhavakI maraNakI vedanA adhik ho yA garbhakI vedanA ho to us vedanAkA vedan kare to usamen use pUrva bhavakA smaraN ho jAtA hai. sab jIvonko ..

samAdhAna- .. kisIko vismaraN ho jAtA hai. phir bhI sangnI jIv hai, man hai to use yAd Ave. mRutyu samayake dukhake kAraN vismaraN ho jAtA hai. vismaraN bhI ho jAtA hai aur yAd bhI Aye. sangnI jIv hai use yAd Aye.

mumukShu- pUrva bhavake sAth is janmake garbhake dukh bhI yAd Aye?

samAdhAna- us prakArakI pariNati ho to yAd Aye. yAd Ave hI aisA nakkI nahIn hotA. jis jAtakI usakI pariNati jahAn jAye vaise yAd Aye. usakI pariNati

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sahaj jahAn jAtI ho, aise yAd AtA hai.

... (nakkI) nahIn hotA ki aisA hI Aye yA aisA hI Aye. man sahitake jo usake bhav hai, usamen use sahajarUpase yAd Aye.

mumukShu- bahinashrI! gurudevashrIkA ek bol aisA AtA hai ki anubhUti honese aur jAtismaraNagnAn hone par ... anek prakAr unhen spaShTa ho gaye.

samAdhAna- kahAn AtA hai? vah sab kahanekI bAt hai. shraddhA-gnAnase AtmAko pahachAne, svarUpakI pratIti kare ki main gnAyak hUn. us or usakI shraddhA dRuDh ho, gnAyakakI pariNati ho, gnAn us or jAy, lInatA us or ho vah sAdhakadashAkA mArga hai. usamen usakI lInatA baDhatI jAya. usamen bIchamen koI nirmalatAkI pariNati baDhane par jo prakAr hone hote hain, vah hote hain. prayojan to ek AtmAkI or jAnekA hai.

gnAyakakI pariNati dRuDh ho, bhedagnAnakI dhArA ugra ho, gnAyakakI pariNatikI ugratA ho aur andar svarUpakI lInatA baDhatI jAy, vibhAvase nyArA hotA jAy, svarUp pariNatikI dRuDhatA hotI jAya. yah ek hI mArga hai. usamen bIchamen jis prakArakI pariNatikI nirmalatA hotI ho vah hotI hai. jisakI jis prakArakI pariNati ho (vaise hotA hai).

mumukShu- AjakA din aisA mangal hai, ..

samAdhAna- vah koI bAr-bAr kahanekI bAt hai? sahaj jab Aye tab Aye. vah to us din bhagavAn har jagah virAjamAn hote the, vah prasang thA, us prasang par kuchh nikal gayA. sab jagah bhagavAn virAjamAn hote the, vah prasang thA isaliye...

mumukShu- Aj is prakArakA prasang hai. bhAv jAtismaraN...

samAdhAna- us jAtakA yAd Ave to spaShTa ho, jis jAtakA yAd Ave vaisA. svayam jAnate the ki svayam tIrthankar honevAle hain. unakA hRuday hI bolatA thA. svayam tIrthankar honevAle hain. tIrthankarakA dravya svayam hain. aur bhagavAnane kahA. unako antarase lagatA thA. unako svayamko tIrthankaratvakI bhanak AtI thI. yah bharatakShetra, yahAn to abhI sabake abhiprAy... gurudev yahAn padhAre aur mArgakA prakAsh kiyA. sabako satya mArga milA. mArga kahAn kaun jAnatA thA?

kevalagnAn to abhI nahIn hai, bhAvalingI muni bhI abhI to durlabh ho gaye hain. gurudev padhAre to yah sab jAnaneko milA. yah mArga alag hai, antaramen rahA hai. sAdhakadashA antaramen, sab antaramen hai. gnAn, shraddhA Adi sab antaramen hai. pahale to sab samyagdarshan bAharase mAnate the, sab gnAn bAharase mAnate the, chAritra bAharase mAnate the. samyagdarshan antaramen svAnubhUtikI dashAmen pragaT hotA hai, gnAn bhI antaramen hai aur chAritra bhI antaramen

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hai. gurudevane spaShTa kar-karake spaShTa (kiyA hai). kahIn bhUl na rahe aise lalakAr kar- karake kahA hai ki shubhabhAv karate-karate hogA, aisA nahIn hogA. antaramen to tU bhinna hI ho jA. itanA to rakhUn, aise bhI nahIn. itanA joradAr kahA hai. sabake abhiprAy andarase badal gaye.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! jAtismaraNagnAnamen ... bhavakA jAnanA ho parantu ApakA pUrva bhavakA jAtismaraNagnAn hai mahAvidehakShetrakA, to Ajake din sabako jyAdA bhAvanA ho ki Apake shrImukhase bhagavAnakA varNan, samavasaraNakA varNan athavA dUsarA kuchh ham sunen to ham sabako Ananda ho.

samAdhAna- vah jab AtA hai tab thoDA A jAtA hai. vah sab koI kahanekI bAt thoDe hI hai.

mumukShu- Ajake din sab apekShA to rakhe nA.

samAdhAna- apekShA rakhe, lekin jitanA kahanemen Aye utanA hI kahanemen AtA hai, dUsarA kuchh kahanekA nahIn hai. logonko ek prakArakA Ashcharya hotA hai. andar AtmAkA karanA vah mukhya hai.

mumukShu- prayojan to sukhakA hai, parantu Ruddhi bIchamen sahaj pragaT ho jAtI hai, to us RuddhikA bahut bAr gnAnI sAdhakako bhI aisA rAg AtA hai, to ham sabako to aisI ichchhA ho na ki mAtAjI kuchh kahe.

samAdhAna- Ruddhiko jAnanekA rAg nahIn, parantu bhagavAnakI bhakti hai. Ruddhi jAnanekA rAg nahIn hai. bhagavAnakA kyA varNan, us samavasaraNakA kyA varNan (karanA)? vah sab shAstrommen AtA hai. bAkI bhagavAn to bhagavAnakA kyA varNan (karanA)? jagatase bhinna- nyAre bhagavAn (hain). jo vItarAgI hai, jinakA chalanA alag, jinakA bolanA alag, jinakA baiThanA alag, jinakI vANI alag, jagatase sab alag hI hai. antaramen to bhinna ho gayA, parantu bAhar bhI alag ho gayA.

mumukShu- shAstramense sune aur ek pratyakSha puruShake pAs sune to usamen pharka to paDatA hai na? Ap thoDe khulle hRudayase bAt karen to hamen..

samAdhAna- khullA kuchh nahIn kahanA hai. jitanA kahanA hotA hai, utanA kahate hain.

mumukShu- bhagavAnakA itanA baDA deh hogA, samavasaraNamen kaise virAjamAn honge?

samAdhAna- .. yahAn kalpanAmen AtA hai? yahAn to ratna dikhAI bhI nahIn dete hain. vah ratnakA samavasaraN kahAn kalpanAmen A sake aisA hai? jo devon dvArA rachita. dev bhI yahAn dikhAI nahIn detA. devonkA AvAgaman aur munionkA samUh, kalpanAmen

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AnA mushkil paDe aisA hai. munikA dikhanA mushkil paDatA hai. munionkA, sAdhakonkA samUh yahAn kahAn dikhAI de aisA hai? ratnakA samavasaraN, vah ratna yahAn kahAn dikhAI dete hain? pAnchasau dhanuShakA deh, usake vRukSha, usake gaDh kahAn kalpanAmen A sake aisA hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! kabhI thoDA jyAdA sunanekI ichchhA hotI hai na.

samAdhAna- yahAn kuchh kalpanAmen A sake aisA nahIn hai. jahAn dUsare koI mat nahIn hai, jahAn dUsarA sampradAy, vADA nahIn hai, jahAn bhagavAn kahe vahI bAt phail rahI hai. vANI sunate vakta kitane hI antarmuhUrtamen samyagdarshan, kitane hI kevalagnAn, kitane hI muni (dashA) prApta kar rahe hain, vah kAl pUrA alag hai. yahAn ek samyagdarshanakI durlabhatA hai. vahAn munidashA kShaN-kShaNamen (AtI hai). sab tyAgakar chhoDakar chal dete hain. bhagavAnakI vANI sunate hain. vah dharma kAl... yahAn gurudevake pratApase itanA ho rahA hai.

... gurudevane tattva bahut samajhAyA. ek gnAyak AtmAko samajho. ek AtmA bhagavAn hai. vibhAv bhI apanA svabhAv nahIn hai. gnAyak AtmAko pahachAno, yah sab gurudevane batAyA. shubhabhAvamen dev-guru-shAstra aur bhItaramen shuddhAtmA gnAyak, jo nirvikalpa tattva hai use pahachAno. gurudevane isakA bahut vistAr kar-karake sUkShma-sUkShma nyAyAdise batAyA hai. unakI vANI apUrva thI, AtmA apUrva, unakA gnAn apUrva, sab apUrva hI thA. aisA kahanevAle koI dikhanemen nahIn Ate hain. tIrthankarakA dravya thA jo bharatakShetramen padhAre, sabake kalyANake liye padhAre.

mumukShu- is bAtako kahanevAlA koI nahIn thA. svapnamen bhI nahIn.

samAdhAna- alaukika. utanI vANI itanI joradAr va apUrva thI, sunanese AtmAkA Ashcharya lage, AtmAkI mahimA Aye, aisI unakI apUrva vANI thI. dravya-guN-paryAyakA svarUp, kartA-karmakA svarUp, nimitta-upAdAnakA svarUp, sab gurudevane spaShTa karake batAyA. pahale to sab kriyAse dharma hotA hai, shubhabhAvase dharma hotA hai, aisA sab mAnate the. gurudevane aisA parivartan antar dRuShTi karake sabako (jAgRut kiyA). bhItaramen AtmAmen sab hai, svabhAvase sab pragaT hotA hai. svabhAvamense svabhAvakI paryAy bhItaramense AtI hai. gurudevane sab spaShTa karake batAyA hai.

mumukShu- Atma dharma yahAnse prakAshit karake Apane mahAn upakAr kiyA hai.

samAdhAna- gurudevane kahA, us mArga par chalanA vahIn karanA hai, AtmAkA kalyAN (karanA hai). AtmAkA svarUp samajhakar, bhedagnAn karake, Atmadravya par dRuShTi karanI vahI karanA hai. gurudevane jo mArga batAyA, usI mArga par chalanA hai. andar svAnubhUti, bhavakA abhAv sab gnAyakako pahachAnanese hotA hai. puruShArtha to svayamko karanA hai, puruShArtha to karanese hotA hai. AtmA gnAyak jAnanevAlA, shubhAshubh bhAv bhI apanA svabhAv nahIn

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hai. usase bhedagnAn karake gnAyakake svabhAvako pahachAnakar, usakI pratIt-shraddhA, usamen lInatA karanA vahI muktikA mArga hai, vahI pragaT karanA hai, jIvanamen vahI karanekA hai.

mumukShu- bharatajIne kailAs parvat par sthApanA kI, Apane bhI sAkShAt sthApanA kI. ... yah sunakar jisako kanTAlA AtA hai.. yah to jo .. sAkShAt karake dikhAyA. yah kAm koI bUrA nahIn kiyA, sabase baDhiyA kArya kiyA. yah hamAre manake .. huA.

samAdhAna- sabakI bhAvanA huyI, sab mumukShuonko. kyA kare? kisIko achchhA lagA, kisIko nahIn bhI lagA. sabakI bhAvanA huyI to aisA (ho gayA).