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samAdhAna- ... kahAn lonch, kahAn munidashA, kahAn... Antarik munidashA andarakI. unhen to sahaj lonch hotA hai. kahAn vah sab...

mumukShu- aisA shubhabhAv AyA ho to usakA amalIkaraN karanA yA nahIn?

samAdhAna- pahale to sudhAr antaramen samyagdarshan pragaT ho, phir bhavakA abhAv ho to hotA hai. bAhyase kriyA mAtra karanese kyA hotA hai? shubhabhAv ananta kAlamen bahut bAr kiyA. puNya bAndhakar devalokamen gayA. phir vahIn kA vahIn. andar shubhabhAvanA rahe to. "munivrat dhAr anant bair graiveyak upajAyo'.

andar svayam sarva pratham shuddhAtmAko pahachAne, bAdamen sachchI munidashA AtI hai. munidashA antaramen Aye, phir bAharase use sahaj hotA hai. lonch Adi sab sahaj hotA hai. koI bAhya pravRutti ruchati nahIn. use antaramen AtmAkI lInatAke binA,... AtmAkI svAnubhUti kShaN-kShaNamen hotI hai. kahIn aTak nahIn sakatA, koI vikalpamen ruk nahIn sakatA, gRuhasthake koI vichAramen (nahIn). antaramen bArambAr svAnubhUtimen kShaN-kShaNamen (Ate hain). koI vikalpamen aTakatA nahIn, kShaN-kShaNamen svAnubhUtimen jAtA hai. aisI dashA ho jAtI hai isaliye use sab bAhya pravRutti sahaj chhUT jAtI hai. shubhabhAv hote hain, usamen bhI ek antarmuhUrta hote hI antaramen chalA jAtA hai. shubhabhAvanAmeense antarmuhUrta-antarmuhUrtamen andar chalA jAtA hai. aisI munionkI dashA hotI hai. shAstra likhate hon, upadesh dete hon. AhArAdimen kShaN- kShaNamen andar chale jAte hain. aisI munikI dashA hotI hai. munidashA yAnI kevalagnAnakI talahaTI.

mumukShu- sahaj shubhabhAv AtA ho to abhI amalamen nahIn rakhanA aisA hai? abhI apanI bhUmikA nahIn hai, phir bhI sahaj koI shubhabhAv AtA ho...

samAdhAna- pratham to mArga kyA hai, vah samajhanA chAhiye na. bhavakA abhAv kaise ho, aisA AtmArthIkA prayojan pahale (honA chAhiye). usakA kAraN kyA, usakA kuchh vichAr karanA chAhiye. binA vichArake sab aisA hI hai. ayathArtha hai. sab tyAg karake phir khed (hotA hai). kitane to khedamen rahate hain. bahut-bahut prakAr hote hain. .. andarakI dashA binA bAharakA kuchh phalavAn nahIn hotA.

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mumukShu- kuchh balavAn nahIn hotA?

samAdhAna- phalavAn, usakA koI phal nahIn AtA. binA antarakI dashAke. mAtra antarakI jo shAnti chAhiye, antaramense shAnti... mAtra bAhya tyAg karanese antaramen jo shAnti hotI hai, vah shAnti bAhya tyAgase nahIn AtI.

mumukShu- abhI mAtra vaisA shubhabhAv karanese ...

samAdhAna- antaramense shubhabhAv.... samyagdarshanakI bhUmikAmen aur sachchI munidashAmen usake sAth shubhabhAv hai. vah shubhabhAv heyabuddhise Ate hain. vah shubhabhAv alag hai aur yah shubhabhAv (alag hai).

AtmArthIko, mujhe AtmA kaise prApta ho? bhavakA abhAv kaise ho? aisI bhUmikAke sAth shubhabhAv hotA hai, parantu usakA dhyey ek (hotA hai ki), mujhe shuddhAtmA kaise pahachAnamen Aye? vah ek dhyey hotA hai. vAnchan, vichAr Adi sab shubhabhAv hain. AtmA kaise pahachAnamen Aye? pahale sachchA gnAn ho bAdamen sachchA hotA hai. pahale tyAg hotA nahIn. aisA kram nahIn hai. pahalA kram - sachchA gnAn honA vah kram hai, bAdamen tyAg (hotA hai).

sachchA gnAn Adi sab... usake sAth use usakI bhUmikAmen kaShAyakI mandatA hotI hai, AtmArthItA hotI hai, use kahIn gRuddhipanA nahIn hotA, AtmArthItA ho, AtmAkA prayojan ho, yah sab use (hotA hai). amuk anshamen usake ras chhUT jAte hain. use sab ho jAtA hai. jise AtmAkI laganI lagI hai, use sab ho jAtA hai. ras chhUT gaye hote hain, bAhya sAnsArik sab ras use DhIle paD jAte hain. use yathAshakti tyAg bhI AtA hai, sab AtA hai. usakI shakti anusAr sab AtA hai.

bAharase sab kar le aur andar kuchh nahIn ho. baDA tyAg le le aur andar kuchh nahIn hotA. shubhabhAv to jignAsAkI bhUmikAke sAth amuk shubhabhAv to hote hain. use tyAg bhI hotA hai, sab hotA hai.

.... jIvane samyagdarshan prApta nahIn kiyA hai. jo samyagdarshan prApta honese bhavakA abhAv hotA hai, AtmAkI svAnubhUti hotI hai aur jisase kevalagnAn tak AtmAkI pUrNatA prApta hotI hai, aisA jo samyagdarshan vah jIvane prApta nahIn kiyA hai. sab ananta bAr kar liyA hai. bAhya kriyAen kI, tyAg kiyA, vrat liye, pachchakhAN liye, abhigrah dhAraN kiye, upavAs kiye, mAsakhamaN kiye, sab kiyA. abhI sab bAharase karate hain vaisA nahIn. shubhabhAv AtmAke liye karatA hUn, aisA mAnakar kiyA. parantu andar ekatvabuddhi (chhUTI nahIn).

AtmA bhinna aur yah sharIr bhinna aur andar shubhAshubh bhAv hote hain vah merA

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svarUp nahIn hai. isaprakAr AtmAko nahIn pahachAnA. AtmAko pahachAnA nahIn. sab puNyabandha huA, graiveyak gayA, lekin bhavakA abhAv nahIn huA. devalokamen ananta bAr gayA, manuShyamen ananta (bAr janma liyA), chAron gatimen ananta bAr gayA.

(sab) prApta huA, lekin ek samyagdarshan prApta nahIn huA. anAdi kAlase AtmA prApta nahIn huA. usakI ruchi nahIn kI hai, usakI bhAvanA nahIn kI hai. kuchh nahIn kiyA. usakA parichay nahIn kiyA hai, kuchh nahIn kiyA. koI shravaN karavAnevAle guru mile to svayam samajhA nahIn, AdarapUrvak sunA nahIn. ananta kAlamen kuchh nahIn kiyA.

(tap to) aisA kiyA ki koI bAr parvat par prakhar dhUpamen dhyAn kare, dariyA kinAre sardImen dhyAn kare, chaumAsAmen vRukShake nIche dhyAn kare. aise to tap kiye. upasarga pariShah Aye to krodh kare nahIn, shAnti rakhe, sab kare parantu AtmA bhinna hai aisI pahachAn nahIn kI. Upar-Uparase AtmAke liye karatA hUn, (aisA mAnatA hai). andar AtmAkA svabhAv kyA? AtmA kaun use pahachAnA nahIn. main AtmAke liye karatA hUn, AtmAke liye karatA hUn, aisA karatA rahA. mokShake liye (karatA hUn), parantu mokSha kise kahate hain (yah samajhA nahIn). andaramen ruchi shubh-puNya-orakI ruchi rah jAtI hai. antaramen AtmAkI ruchi nahIn kI. samyagdarshan prApta nahIn kiyA. (svabhAvakA) Ashcharya nahIn lagA hai. AtmAkI mahimA nahIn AyI hai.

jo shravaN karanevAle guru mile, unakI vANImen guru kyA kahate hain usamen koI Ashcharya nahIn lagA hai. AtmAkA Ashcharya nahIn lagA. apUrvatA laganI chAhiye. AtmAkA svarUp kuchh alag kahate hain, muktikA mArga kuchh alag kahate hain, svAnubhUtikA svarUp kuchh alag kahate hain, antaramen aisI apUrvatA nahIn lagI hai. vANImen apUrvatA (nahIn lagI). andaramen AtmAkI apUrvatA nahIn lagI. jo kuchh karatA hai, vah usI dishAmen khaDA hai. dishA nahIn badalatA. shubhabhAvakI dishAmen usI dishAmen khaDA hai. antarakI or dishA honI chAhiye ki AtmA bhinna kaise hai, usakA Ashcharya laganA chAhiye. vah dishA nahIn badalatA aur vahI dishAmen khaDA hai. chakkar lagAye to vahIn ke vahIn utanemen chakkar lagAtA rahatA hai.

mumukShu- bAhya padAthAmen hI usakA Ashcharya..

samAdhAna- bAhar hI Ashcharya lagA hai. antaramen Ashcharya nahIn lagA. ashubhabhAv use ruche nahIn isaliye shubhabhAvamen AtA hai. phir shubhabhAvamen hI rahatA hai. shubhabhAvase bhI bhinna mere AtmAkA svarUp hai, use pahachAnatA nahIn. shubhabhAv to bIchamen Ate hain. AtmAkA svarUp pahachAnanekA prayAs kare, ruchi kare, samyagdarshan (pragaT kare). bIchamen shubhabhAv hote hain, parantu vah heyabuddhise hote hain. samyagdarshan honeke bAd bhI shubhabhAv

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hote hain, dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA Adi sab hotA hai, parantu vah sab use heyabuddhise (hotA hai). use bhedagnAnakI dhArA vartatI hai.

mumukShu- ... aisA khyAlamen AtA hai. jAnanA arUpI bhAvase aur vedanAtmak bhAvarUp hai, aisA bhI khyAlamen AtA hai. vah svayamkI shakti hai athavA jAnanA mujhamense ho rahA hai, usamen kis prakArase (Age baDhanA)?

samAdhAna- jAnanA vah svayamkA astitva hai. jAnanevAleko grahaN karanA ki jAnanevAlA hai vahI main hUn. jAnanevAlese koI bhinna main nahIn hUn. jAnanevAlA pUrA tattva hai. jAnanevAleko grahaN kare, vibhAvase bhinna paDe.

pUrNa tattva jAnanevAlA (hai). ek guN hai aisA nahIn, vartamAn ek jAnanevAlI avasthA hai aise nahIn, anyako jAne vah main, aisA nahIn. men svayam jAnanevAlA hUn. aisA svayam jANak tattva hai, vah jAnanevAlA tattvakA use Ashcharya lage, usakI mahimA Aye, use grahaN kare. us par dRuShTi kare, dRuShTiko thambhAve aur vibhAvase bhinna paDe. bhedagnAn kare. vibhAvakI ekatvabuddhi rakhakar main jAnanevAlA hUn, jAnanevAlA hUn kare to jAnanevAleko usane buddhise jAnA hai. ekatvabuddhi TUTanI chAhiye aur gnAyakako bhinna karake bhedagnAnakI dhArA honI chAhiye, to gnAyakako pahachAnA hai. ekatvabuddhimen khaDA rahakar main jAnanevAlA hUn, aisA karate hain. vichArase nakkI karatA hai.

mumukShu- jAnanevAlA hUn, is bhAvamen use anya padArthase sambandha nahIn hai aur anya padArthakA khInchAv bhI usamen nahIn hai, aisI vah vastu hai.

samAdhAna- aisA vah svayam jAnanevAlA hai, use bhinna karake jAne. mahimAvant (hai). jAnanA yAnI usamen ek guN nahIn hai, ananta mahimAse bharA huA, ananta guNonse bharA huA mahimAvant padArtha hai. jAnanevAlekI use mahimA AnI chAhiye. jAnanevAleko vibhAvase bhinna karake jAnanevAleko grahaN karanA.

mumukShu- us prakArase jAnanemen AtA hai.

samAdhAna- svayamke sAth sambandha hai, dUsareke sAth nahIn hai. jAnanevAleko svayamke dravyake sAth sambandha hai, svayamke sAth sambandha hai. dUsareke sAth sambandha nahIn hai. anyase atyant bhinna hai. paradravyase atyant bhinna hai. vibhAvase bhI vah bhinna hai. vibhAv svabhAv usakA nahIn hai. usakA svabhAv gnAyak hai. jAnanevAlekA astitva bharapUr bharA hai. mAtra jAnanA aisA guN nahIn, apitu pUrNa tattva apanA astitva grahaN karanA.

mumukShu- dRuShTike viShayamen dRuShTi mukhya rahatI hai aur usakI mahimA

samAdhAna- dRuShTi mukhya rahatI hai. gnAyak par dRuShTi kare. gnAyak mukhya rahatA hai, parantu usakI mahimA dRuShTimen bhI rahatI hai, gnAnamen bhI rahatI hai aur chAritramen bhI rahatI

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hai. dRuShTikI Dor, dRuShTikA viShay dravya hai. usakI mukhyatA hokar gnAnamen bhI barAbar khyAl hai. gnAn bhI, jaisI dRuShTi hai vaisA gnAn hai. gnAn dononko jAnatA hai, dravya aur paryAyako. dRuShTi ek dravya par hotI hai aur gnAn evan chAritramen lInatA hotI hai. mahimA to tInommen hotI hai. dRuShTi mukhya rahakar gnAn-gnAyak mukhya rahatA hai. mahimA tInommen rahatI hai.

mumukShu- tInonkI pUrNatAmen to paripUrNatAkI mahimA pUrI honI chAhiye tInommen. dRuShTi pUrNa ho jAtI hai to pUrNa mahimAke kAraN hotI hai. vaise gnAn bhI paripUrNa kevalagnAnarUp dashA leve to mahimAmen paripUrNa honA chAhiye.

samAdhAna- mahimA Aye isaliye paripUrNa ho jAy, aisA nahIn hai. mahimA to hotI hai. dRuShTikA viShay pUrNa hai. akhaNDa dravya par dRuShTi kI hai, parantu gnAn bhI usako jAnatA hai. gnAnamen mahimA Ave isaliye pUrNa ho jAy, aisA nahIn hotI. mahimA dUsarI vastu hai, puruShArthakI mandatA honese pUrNatA dhIre-dhIre hotI hai. dRuShTimen pUrNatA A gayI, parantu chAritramen pUrNatA nahIn AtI. mahimA Aye isaliye pUrNa paryAy ho jAy, aisA nahIn hotA.

mumukShu- gnAnakI parasanmukhatA rahatI hai asthiratAke kAraN, to kAraN to yahI rahA ki gnAnako bhI apane dravya svabhAvakI paripUrNa mahimAke sAth lInatA na banI.

samAdhAna- lInatA kam rahatI hai. gnAnakI lInatA nahIn, chAritrakI lInatA kam rahatI hai. lInatA to chAritramen hotI hai, gnAn to jAnatA hai. gnAn jAnatA hai. gnAn to, main dravya aisA hUn, paryAy aisI hai, aisA sab jAnatA hai. lInatA chAritramen hotI hai. jAne isaliye lInatA ho jAy, aisA nahIn ho sakatA. puruShArthakI kamajorIke kAraN lInatA kam rahatI hai to bhI puruShArtha hotA jAtA hai. usakA puruShArtha kisIko jaldI antarmuhUrtamen ho jAtA hai. kisIko dhIre-dhIre hotA hai.

bharat chakravartI gRuhasthAshramamen kitane varSha rahate hain. bAdamen lIn hote hain. kisIko turanta usakI bhAvanA uThatI hai to chAritra ho jAtA hai to muni ban jAtA hai. to ekadam puruShArtha karake kevalagnAn ho jAtA hai. kisI-kisIko lInatA jaldI hotI hai, kisIko dhIre-dhIre hotI hai. dRuShTi-pratIt dravya par joradAr ho gayI ki main yahI hUn, yah merA svabhAv (hai). Adarane yogya svabhAv hai. parantu puruShArtha kam rahatA hai isaliye jaldIse nahIn ho sakatA hai. kisIko jaldI hotA hai, kisIko dhIre-dhIre hotA hai. ... muniko antarmuhUrtamen kevalagnAn ho gayA. kisIko antarmuhUrtamen ho jAtA hai. ... dashAmen kitane sAl rahate hain. koI ek-do bhav karake phir kevalagnAn prApta karate hain.

mumukShu- lInatAmen antar paD jAtA hai.

samAdhAna- lInatAmen antar paDatA hai. gnAyakakI bhedagnAnakI dhArA barAbar chalatI

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hai. main gnAyak hUn, yah (vibhAv) merA svabhAv nahIn hai, main gnAyak hUn aise bolanemAtra nahIn, aisI sahaj pariNati chalatI rahatI hai. pratyek kAryamen kShaN-kShaNamen usako yAd nahIn karanA paDatA hai, sahaj chalatA hai. khAte-pIte, svapnamen, nindrAmen gnAyakakI dhArA chalatI hai. lekin lInatA kam hotI hai, isaliye gRuhasthAshramamen rahate hain. svarUp sanmukh sthir ho jAy to sAthamen lInatA hotI hai.

ek dravyamen sarva guN hain. paraspar ek dUsareko... upayog svasanmukh jAy to chAritrakI lInatA bhI svarUpamen hotI hai. sAthamen sab hotA hai. upayog sthir ho jAtA hai to lInatA-chAritra bhI hotA hai. gRuhasthAshramamen svarUpAcharaN chAritra hotA hai. vah hotA hai. upayog sthir ho jAya. upayog bAhar jAtA hai. upayog svarUpakI or jAy to upayogamen sthiratA hai, chAritraguNamen lInatA bhI sAthamen hai. ek guN, dUsarA guN sab sAthamen rahate hain.

mumukShu- svatantra hai.

samAdhAna- sab svatantra hai, phir bhI dRuShTi svasanmukh gayI to sarvaguNAnsh so samyagdarshan (huA). sarva guNakA ansh-ansh nirmal pragaT hotA hai. gnAn svasanmukh jAtA hai to chAritrakI lInatA bhI hotI hai. chAritrakI lInatA hotI hai to gnAnakA upayog bhI svarUpamen jAtA hai.

mumukShu- antarmukh hotA hai. samAdhAna- antarmukh hotA hai. sab guN sAthamen kAm karate hain. mumukShu- hotA hai sab apane-apane upAdAnase. samAdhAna- apane-apane upAdAnase hotA hai. sab svatantra hokarake bhI aisA bhed nahIn hai, TUkaDe nahIn hai. ek dravyake sab guN hain. lakShaNabhed hai. sab svatantra hai, phir bhI ek guNake sAth (sarva guN pariNamate hain). dRuShTikI Dor dRuShTike viShay par gayI to vahAn sarva guNakI paryAy us or (jAkar) nirmal ho jAtI hai. sab svatantra ho to bhI. ek dRuShTi is or AyI aur gnAn us or bAhar gayA, aisA nahIn hotA. chAritra svarUpamen Aye to gnAn bAhar gayA, aisA nahIn hotA. ek gayA to sab jAte hain svasvarUpamen. sarva ansh tAratamyatArUp pariNamit ho jAte hain.