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samAdhAna- .. bhItaramen AtmAko pahachAne. AtmAkA svabhAv hI dharma hai. AtmAmen darshan hai, AtmAmen gnAn hai, AtmAmen chAritra hai, sab AtmAmen hai, AtmAse bAhar nahIn hai. AtmA to koI alaukik vastu hai. usako pahachAne. usake svabhAvakI or dRuShTi kare, usakA gnAn kare, usamen lInatA kare. sab AtmAke Ashrayamen hotA hai. bAharake Ashrayase nahIn hotA hai. mAtra shubhabhAv kare, nav tattvakI shraddhA aur shAstrakA gnAn kar le, dravya-guN-paryAyakA aisA gnAn kare aur chAritra-panch mahAvrat, aNuvrat kare to aise laukik dharmakI mukhyatA nahIn rahatI. alaukik dharmase mukti hotI hai. laukikase puNyabandha hotA hai. puNyabandha to jIvane ananta kAlamen kiyA, lekin usase koI bhavakA abhAv nahIn huA. puNyabandha huA, devalok huA to chAr gatikA bhramaN to vaise chAlU hI hai.

mumukShu- jin dharmako dRuShTi pradhAn dharma kahanemen mukhyatA barAbar banatI hai?

samAdhAna- dRuShTi pradhAn dharma hai. AtmAkI or dRuShTi kare, AtmAko pahachAne, AtmAkI svAnubhUti kare. usakI pradhAnatA rahatI hai. jain dharmakI pradhAnatA svAnubhUtimen hai. dravya par dRuShTi karanemen pradhAnatA rahatI hai.

gurudev kahate the na? svAnubhUti pradhAn jain dharma hai. svAnubhUtikI pradhAnatA rahatI hai. AtmAkI yathArtha svAnubhUti. dhyAn karate hain, kuchh log aisA kahate hain ki hamen anubhUti ho gayI. aisA dhyAn karanese kalpit anubhUti ho jAy aisI anubhUti nahIn. AtmAko pahachAn karake, AtmAkA astitva grahaN karake, gnAyakakA bhedagnAn kare, gnAyak par dRuShTi kare bAdamen svAnubhUti hotI hai. vah svAnubhUti yathArtha hai. vartamAnamen kitane hI log dhyAn karate hain, bahut karate hain. aisA dhyAn karate hain, kalpanA karate hain, kuchh milatA nahIn hai. isaliye kuchh shAnti nahIn hai, aisA kahate hain. mumbaImen koI aisA dhyAn karake kahate hain, hamako shAnti nahIn hai.

AtmAko grahaN nahIn karate hain. AtmAkA astitva grahaN kiye binA dhyAn kare to aise kalpanA mAtra ekAgratA kare. vikalpako manda kare aur shubhabhAvarUp hove phir (kahe), mujhe prakAsh huA, aisI kalpanA ho jAtI hai. parantu AtmAke svabhAvako pahachAne

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aur AtmAkI or dRuShTi kare, AtmAkA yathArtha gnAn kare. bAdamen usakI svAnubhUti yathArtha hotI hai. yathArtha gnAnapUrvak yathArtha dhyAn honA chAhiye.

mumukShu- yathArtha gnAnapUrvakamen dRuShTipradhAn honA chAhiye.

samAdhAna- hAn, dRuShTipradhAn honA chAhiye. yathArtha gnAn usako kahate hain ki jisamen dRuShTikI pradhAnatA rahatI ho. dRuShTikI pradhAnatA rahatI hai, vah muktikA mArga hai. dRuShTi dravya par dRuShTi karanese (hotA hai).

mumukShu- ... sAgar uchhal rahA hai. apane chidAnda prabhumen ananta shaktikA sAgar paDA huA hai. vartamAnamen gnAnashakti aur darshanashaktikA ansh khulA huA hai. us vartamAn darshan, gnAnakI shaktiko-anshako svabhAvakA ansh, ToDaramalajI sAhabane bhI pharamAyA hai. lekin jab anubhavamen antarakI or gnAn jhukatA hai, us kAlamen gnAn, darshan donon hI svarUpakA svasamvedan Ananda letA hai. to vah darshan letA hai yA gnAn letA hai? vartamAn khulA huA ansha.

samAdhAna- darshan bhI letA hai aur gnAn bhI letA hai aur lInatA bhI letA hai. darshanakI paryAy.. darshan arthAt pratItarUp darshan lenA chAhiye. avalokanarUp darshan hai vah to avalokanarUp hai. pratItarUp jo darshan hai, usakA anubhav vedanamen AtA hai. gnAnamen bhI AtA hai aur chAritramen bhI AtA hai.

mumukShu- gnAnakI hI mukhyatAse AtmA svabhAvakI anant shaktionke vedanamen pratyakSha A jAtA hai jAnanemen, AtmAkI anubhUtimen...?

samAdhAna- dRuShTike jorase svAnubhUti hotI hai. dRuShTikA jor hove to svAnubhUtI hotI hai. mAtra akele gnAnase nahIn hotA. dRuShTike jorase svAnubhUti hotI hai. dRuShTike jor binA gnAn sachchA nahIn ho sakatA. dRuShTikA jor hotA hai to gnAn sachchA hotA hai. dRuShTike jor binA svAnubhUtimen aisI lInatA hotI nahIn. dRuShTike jor binA akele gnAnamAtrase nahIn hotA. gnAn to sAthamen rahatA hai.

mumukShu- lakShaN jo..

samAdhAna- vah avalokanarUp darshan hai aur vah pratItarUp darshan hai.

mumukShu- vah pratItarUp shraddhAkI paryAyamen chalA jAtA hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, shraddhAkI paryAya. yah darshanaguNamen avalokanarUp hai.

mumukShu- gnAn bhI to sAthamen hotA hai. darshanakA ansh khulA hai, vaise gnAnakA ansh gnAnopayog bhI khulA hai. to gnAnopayog aur darshanaupayogamense darshan upayog antaramen avalokan karatA hai yA gnAnakA upayog andar jAtA hai vah avalokan karatA hai?

samAdhAna- donon avalokan karate hain. pratItake jorase bhItaramen jAtA hai to sAmAnyarUp

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darshan bhI sAthamen hai aur visheSh gnAn bhI sAthamen hai. donon avalokan karate hain. avalokanarUp to donon hote hain.

mumukShu- sAmAnya avalokanamen to vah bhed nahIn pADatA.

samAdhAna- bhed nahIn pADatA, vah to sattAmAtra (grahaN karatA hai). sattAmAtra avalokan usamen AtA hai. gnAnamen bhed AtA hai. gnAn sAmAnyako jAnatA hai, gnAn visheShako jAnatA hai. gnAn sabako jAnatA hai. darshanamen sattAmAtra AtA hai.

mumukShu- darshan svasamvedan na lagAkar gnAnakA svasamvedan aisA bAr-bAr jinAgamamen AtA hai ki yah anubhUti gnAn svasamvedanase hotI hai.

samAdhAna- gnAnakA svasamvedan.. darshanakI bAt usamen lete nahIn hai. sAmAnya upayog hai isaliye gnAnakI bAt lete hain. gnAn visheSh hai isaliye. darshan to sAthamen rahatA hai. isaliye gnAnakI bAt lete hain. gnAn visheSh hai na. sAmAnya aur visheSh dononko jAnatA hai. darshan samAnya hotA hai isaliye usakI bAt nahIn AtI hai, gnAnakI bAt AtI hai.

... donon sAthamen rahate hain. pariNati to chalatI rahatI hai. upayog bhale bAhar jAye to bhI pariNati jo svasanmukh amuk pariNati Anshik ho vah pariNati shraddhAkI pariNati, svAnubhUtikI yA bAhar Aye savikalpa dashAmen to bhI amuk pariNati chalatI rahatI hai. upayog bhale bAhar jAye. gnAyakakI gnAyakarUp pariNati shuddha pariNati amuk anshamen pragaT huyI hai, vah chalatI rahatI hai. upayog bhale bAhar jAya. amuk labdhamen, usakI amuk pariNati chalatI rahatI hai.

mumukShu- dononkI sAth chalatI hogI? nirvikalpa pratItirUp to shraddhAkI hai aur nirvikalpa dashAmen jitanI shuddhikA ansh baDhA utanI pratItirUpake sAth sthiratArUp...

samAdhAna- pratItirUp aur sthiratArUp pariNati chalatI rahatI hai. usamen gnAn jo amuk ughADarUp rahatA hai, upayogarUp bhale nahIn rahatA hai to bhI. labdharUp kahate hain na? labdha hai yAnI gupta hai aisA nahIn, parantu labdha yAnI amuk ughADarUp usakI pariNati rahatI hai. upayog bhale bAhar jAye to bhI gnAnakI rahatI hai, pratItakI rahatI hai, chAritrakI rahatI hai. shuddha pariNati rahatI hai.

mumukShu- aisI dashA sahajapane chalatI rahatI hai?

samAdhAna- sahajapane chalatI rahatI hai. sahaj puruShArtha hai. sahaj yAnI usakI kRutakRutya dashA ho gayI aisA nahIn, parantu sahaj puruShArtha chalatA hai. aisA sahaj puruShArtha svasanmukh (chalatA hai). amuk pariNati to sahajarUp chalatI hai, usake sAthamen puruShArtha bhI rahatA hai. sAdhakadashA hai to sahaj puruShArtha to sAthamen rahatA hai.

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mumukShu- sahaj puruShArtha lAgu paDatA hai?

samAdhAna- sahaj puruShArtha rahatA hai. dravya svayam kRutakRutya (hai). dravya apekShAse pUrNatA parantu amuk ansh abhI to paryAyamen pragaT huA. puruShArtha sahaj sAthamen rahatA hai.

... shuddha pariNati sAthamen ho, dravya par dRuShTi ho, bhedagnAnakI dhArA chalatI ho to use vyavahAr pUjA kahanemen AtA hai. nahIn to vyavahAr kahanemen Aye, us prakArakA vyavahAr kahanemen Aye. akelA vyavahAr vah vAstavik vyavahAr nahIn hai. nishchayake sAth vyavahAr ho vah vyavahAr hai. use bhAvanA hai, jignAsA hai ki mujhe AtmA kaise pragaT ho? dravya par dRuShTi kaise pragaT ho? vItarAgabhAvakI bhAvanA kare, jignAsA kare. gnAyak... aur shuubhabhAv sAthamen Aye vah to shrAvakonko vah vyavahAr hotA hai. bAkI sachchA vyavahAr to samyagdarshanapUrvak hotA hai.

mumukShu- ... dRuShTimen na nishchayakA vyavahAr, na paryAyakA paralakShyI vyavahAr..

samAdhAna- nishchay nahIn hai, vyavahAr nahIn hai, dravya par dRuShTi nahIn hai. nishchay nahIn pragaT huA hai, vyavahAr pragaT nahIn huA hai.

... samyagdarshan hai, usake sAth antaramen sthir nahIn ho sakatA hai, isaliye shubhabhAv sAthamen AtA hai. aur shubhabhAvake sAth bAhya aShTa dravya Ate hain. usase pUjA kare, isaliye use vyavahArakA Arop AtA hai. vastuko vyavahArakA Arop vah sthUl vyavahAr hai. andar shubhabhAvakA vyavahAr... aur andar shuddha pariNatipUrvak ho to kahanemen Aye.

mumukShu- kharekhar to apanI hI pUjA ..

samAdhAna- dravya par dRuShTi hai, AtmAkI mahimA hai. parantu bAhar shubhabhAvamen vItarAgatAkI mahimA AtI hai, shubhabhAvamen. vItarAg jinendra dev vItarAg ho gaye, svarUpamen jam gaye, sthir ho gaye. aho..! vItarAgadashA! jinendra dev, jinhonne vItarAgI dashA pragaT kI hai. jo AtmAmen sampUrNarUpase samA gaye hain. unakA jise Adar hai ki vah dashA Adarane yogya hai. dhanya hai vItarAgI dashA! jinendra dev! is tarah use bhagavAnake Upar mahimA AtI hai. isaliye use pUjAkI bhAvanA AtI hai.

bhagavAnakA kis prakAr Adar karun? isaliye samyagdRuShTiko gRuhasthAshramamen AdarakA mahimAkA bhAv AtA hai, isaliye pUjA karatA hai. bhagavAn par mahimA AtI hai. unakI vastuen chhUT gayI hai aur sarvasangaparityAg huA hai, isaliye bhagavAnake darshan karate hain. darshan karake bhI mahimA karate hain, stotra rachate hain, sab karate hain. aur gRuhasthAshramamen khaDA hai, sab chIj-vastu Adi hotI hai. tyAgI nahIn huA hai. isaliye bhagavAnako amuk vastuen chaDhAtA hai. vastukA tyAg (karatA hai). gRuhasthAshramamense tyAg karake bhagavAnako chaDhAtA

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hai aur bhagavAnakI mahimA karatA hai. svayam apane sharIrake liye, kuTumbake liye sab karatA hai, bhagavAn to sarvotkRuShTa hai isaliye bhagavAnakI pUjA aur mahimA AtI hai, isaliye pUjA karatA hai. uttam vastuonse pUjA karatA hai. gnAyakakI gnAyakadhArA chhUTatI nahIn hai. usamen ekatvabuddhi nahIn hotI hai. sAthamen gnAyakatA khaDI rahatI hai. shubhabhAv AtA hai. gnAyakatA bhedagnAn (chAlU hai).

jo shubhabhAv AtA hai us kShaNamen gnAyakakI dhArA usakI bhinna hI hai. to bhI use aisI mahimA AtI hai. shubhabhAvamen sthiti kam paDatI hai, parantu use bhagavAn par bahut bhAvanA AtI hai. isaliye shubhabhAvamen mithyAdRuShTiko jo ras paDatA hai, usase samyagdRuShTiko jo ras paDatA hai, sthiti kam paDatI hai. kyonki yadi antaramen samA jAye to turanta (chhUT jAtA hai). use lambI sthiti nahIn paDatI hai. mithyAdRuShTiko sthiti paDatI hai aur ras paDatA hai. kyonki use svabhAvakI mahimA hai. AtmAkA svarUp jAnA aur svabhAvakI mahimA AyI hai. svAnubhUti dashAmen aur pratItamen jo mahimA AyI hai, yah ansh jo pragaT huA hai, pUrNatAkI jo mahimA AyI hai, vah mahimA svayam andar sthir nahIn ho sakatA hai (to) bhagavAn par mahimA AtI hai. shubhabhAv AtA hai ki bhagavAnane sarvotkRuShTa kevalagnAn dashA pragaT kI, vItarAg dashA pragaT kI, dhanya hai vah vItarAg dashA! aise shubhabhAvamen mahimA AtI hai, isaliye bhagavAnakI bhakti karatA hai, stuti karatA hai, pUjA karatA hai. parantu usI kShaN apanI gnAyakakI bhedagnAnakI dhArA use bhinna hI vartatI hai.

padmanandI AchAryane bhagavAnake stotra rache hain. he bhagavAn! ye bAdalake TUkaDe kyon ho gaye? ki indronne jo nRitya kiyA usamen unakA hAth (aiso huA to) bAdalake TUkaDe ho gaye. bhagavAn! main har jagah Apako dekhatA hUn. is prakAr bhagavAnakI stuti karate hain. Ap hI jagatamen sarvotkRuShTa ho, Ap hI Adar karane yogya ho. is prakAr bhagavAnakI stuti (karate hain).

Apake darshanase yah hotA hai, Apake darshanase pAp naShTa hote hain, Apake darshanase... anek prakArakI stuti karate hain. parantu antaramen gnAyakakI bhedagnAnakI dhArA bhinna vartatI hai. vah bAharamen dikhAyI nahIn detI, parantu antarakI usakI pariNati bhinna vartatI hai.

mumukShu- ... dhArA chAlU hai, isaliye andaramen use gnAyakakI pakaD chAlU rahatI hai. to usI prakAr jignAsuko bhI bhagavAnakA bahumAn karate hue...

samAdhAna- bhagavAn vItarAg ho gaye. us vItarAgatAkA svayamko Adar hai, svayamko ruchatA hai. usakI ruchi anusAr rahatA hai. mujhe AtmA kaise pragaT ho? bhagavAnane jo AtmA pragaT kiyA, vaise AtmAkA mujhe Adar hai. vah AtmA mujhe kaise pragaT ho?

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aisA gnAyak mujhe pragaT ho, aisI gnAyakakI pariNati mujhe pragaT ho. aisI antaramen bhAvanA (hotI hai). bhagavAnane aisI dashA pragaT kI, vah dashA Adarane yogya hai.

vaisA AtmAkA svarUp hai. jaise bhagavAn hain, vaisA main hUn. aisA AtmA mujhe kaise pragaT ho? aisI ruchi use sAthamen (hotI hai). ruchivAnako aisI ruchi honI chAhiye. use bhagavAnakI vItarAgI dashAkA Adar hai. bhagavAnakA anupam svarUp hai, vaisA merA svarUp hai. vah mujhe kaise pragaT ho, aisI bhAvanA sAthamen honI chAhiye.

mumukShu- yAnI usamen usakI ruchi puShTa hotI hai?

samAdhAna- ruchi puShTa hotI hai. vItarAg dashAkI ruchi. AtmAkI ruchi puShTi hotI hai. jaisA bhagavAnakA AtmA hai, vaisA merA AtmA hai. aisA AtmA mujhe kaise pragaT ho? AtmAkI ruchiko puShTa karatA hai.

mumukShu- bhagavAnako dekhakar use aisI bhAvanA hotI hai ki aisA sampUrNapanA main kaise prApta karun.

samAdhAna- hAn, kaise prApta karun? aisA svarUp mujhe kaise prApta ho? bhagavAnane jo mArga antaramen pragaT kiyA, vaisA mujhe kaise ho? prArambhase lekar ant tak bhagavAnane jo pragaT kiyA, vah sab mujhe kaise pragaT ho? usakI svayamkI ruchiko puShTa kare. vah svayam vItarAgI dashAkA Adar karatA hai. use bhedagnAnakI dhArA nahIn rahatI hai, parantu apanI bhAvanA aur ruchiko puShTa karatA hai. jignAsu ho vaha. bAkI to jo oghe-oghe rUDhigatarUpase karatA ho, usakI bAt nahIn hai. jignAsu ho,.. bhagavAn jaisA svarUp mujhe kaise prApta ho?

jin pratimA jin sArakhI. jin pratimA jin sArakhI, alpa bhav sthiti jAkI, so hI jin pratimA pramANe jin sArakhI. jisakI bhav sthiti alpa hai vah jin pratimAko... jineshvar jaisI... kyonki bhagavAnakI mudrA jo hai samavasaraNamen baiThe hon, vaisI mudrA jin pratimAmen (hotI hai). is prakAr bhagavAn yAd Aye. bhagavAnakI mudrA dekhakar bhagavAn yAd Aye. us prakAr bhagavAnako jo svIkAratA hai ki yah bhagavAnakI hI mudrA hai. mAno bhagavAn baiThe hon! aisA svIkAratA hai. alpa bhav sthiti jAkI so hI... antaramen ruchipUrvaka.

mumukShu- vItarAg bhagavAnakA bimb dekhakar use andaramen chaitanya..

samAdhAna- ise apanA chaitanyabimb yAd Aye. TankotkirNa chaitanyabimb bhI aisA hI hai. svarUpamen lIn ho jAye aisA hai. bAhar jAnA vah merA svarUp nahIn hai. antaramen jAnA vahI is chaitanyadevakA svarUp hai. jaise bhagavAn hain, vaisA hI main hUn.

(bhagavAnake) dravya-guN-paryAyako jAne, apane dravya-guN-paryAyako jAne. bhagavAn kaise

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hain? bhagavAnakA dravya kaisA? unake guN kaise? unakI paryAy kaisI pragaT huyI? is prakAr svayamko vichAr AnekA ek mahA... svayam puruShArtha kare to. bhagavAnakA svarUp chAron orase vichAre. kShaN-kShaNamen gnAyak yAd Aye. ruchivAnako aisA hotA hai ki bhagavAn mere hRudayamen rahe. jaise bhagavAn hain, vaisA hI merA AtmA hai. use gaharAImen aisI ruchi rahatI hai ki mujhe merA Atmadev kaise pragaT ho? aisI ruchi andar sAthamen rahanI chAhiye. aisA puruShArtha main kab karun? is prakAr puruShArtha karanese prApta hogA. is prakAr samajhan sAthamen honI chAhiye. shrAvak gRuhasthAshramamen ho, usake bajAy mandiramen jAye to ek shubh pariNAm honekA kAraN hotA hai. parantu jignAsu ho to vichAr karanekA avakAsh hai. jo nahIn samajhatA hai, (to) rUDhigatarUpase to sab chalatA hI hai.

mumukShu- shAstramen to ek hI pahalU Aye, isamen to mAno pUrA svarUp jIvantarUpase khyAlamen Aye us prakArase grahaN karanekA kAraN banatA hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, kAraN banatA hai. chAron orase vichAr karanekA... puruShArtha kare to vichAr kar sake. vichAr karanekA kAraN bane. bhagavAn jinendra devakI mahimA Anese bhI vichAr karanekA kAraN banatA hai. sAkShAt gurukI vANI ho usakI to kyA bAt karanI! ... samajhA nahIn, usamen sAkShAt vANI kAraN banatI hai. bhagavAnakI, gurukI vANI sAkShAt ho to andarase chaitanyako palaTanekA kAraN banatA hai. chaitanyamUrti. parantu yah jinendra pratimAkI bhI utanI hI mahimA shAstramen AtI hai. niddhat aur nikAchit karma, bhagavAn jinendra devakI pratimAse chhUT jAte hain, aisA AtA hai. parantu us prakArakI apanI pariNati taiyAr honI chAhiye. nimitta to ... rUDhigatarUpase nahIn hotA hai, samajhanapUrvak ho to hotA hai.