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mumukShu- ... pUjya bhagavatI mAtA! vartamAn ... jo koI ham jaise pApI pravachanakAr ban jAy aur kahate hain ki yah deshanAkA nimitta ban jAy to gurudevashrIke pravachanamen to aisA AtA thA ki jab-jab jisako AtmAkI antar dRuShTi aur anubhav hogA, us samayamen koI antaradRuShTi guru hI nimitta hotA hai. shAstra, agnAnI guru digambaramen janmA ho, jo dravyalingapanemen bhI AtA ho, parantu siddhAntamen to anubhUtivAlA guru hI us anubhUtivAleke nimitta hogA, aisA...

samAdhAna- aisA nahIn ban sakatA. jisako svAnubhUti nahIn huyI, usakA vachan dUsareko deshanAlabdhikA kAraN nahIn ban sakatA. svayam vyAkhyAn kare, sab kare parantu vah to svAdhyAy hai ek prakArakA. parantu usakA nimitta to jisako pratyakSha svAnubhUti huyI ho, svAnubhUtikI dashA, bhedagnAnakI dashA (pragaT huyI ho), usakI deshanAlabdhikA kAraN banatA hai. dev aur guru, jisako antarakI dashA pragaT huyI hai, aise guru deshanAlabdhikA nimitta banate hain. jise antar chaitanya pragaT huA hai, usakI vANI nimitta banatI hai. vANI mAtra sunI ho utanA hI nahIn, svayamko antaramen kuchh apUrvatA lage. sunanese sabako deshanAlabdhi ho jAy aisA nahIn hai. jisakI pAtratA ho use hotI hai.

bahut bAr vANI to sunI hai, bhagavAn mile hain, sab huA hai parantu antaramen svayamkI taiyArIke binA kuchh kar nahIn sakA. guru mile, bhagavAn mile mAtra sunanese (nahIn hotA hai). antarakI taiyArI kare.... nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha honA chAhiye. nimitta to prabal hai. bhagavAnakI vANIkA nimitta prabal hai. gurukI vANI...

gurudev yahAn panchamakAlamen padhAre. unakI vANIkA nimitta prabal thA. parantu jo pAtra ho use deshanAlabdhi pragaT hotI hai. pAtratA svayamkI chAhiye. nimitta aur upAdAnakA sambandha (tab hotA hai).

mumukShu- us vakta use antaramense kisI bhI prakArakA anya bhAv utpanna nahIn huA, isaliye jo sunA vah use khyAlamen A gayA ho, bAdamen us bhAv parase svayam apane bhAvako jAgRut kar sakatA hai?

samAdhAna- pratyakSha vANI sunI ho, vah pratyakSha hai. karanA kyon? svayam taiyArI

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karanI, to deshanAlabdhi ho hI gayI hai, aisA mAn lenA. svayam jignAsA taiyAr kare aur gurudevane jo kahA ki main gnAyak hUn, main AtmA hUn, yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahIn hai, main usase bhinna hUn. andar aisI dRuDh pratIt karake bhedagnAnakI dhArA pragaT karake svayam puruShArtha kare to samajh lenA ki deshanAlabdhi ho gayI hai.

jo apragaT hai, use kahAn khojane jAnA? usakA santoSh mAnanA,... apragaTako khojanA usake bajAy jo pragaT ho sakatA hai use pragaT karanA. pahale hamane sunA hai, deshanAlabdhi huyI hogI ki nahIn? ab pragaT hogI ki nahIn? aisA vichAr karaneke badale svayam gnAyakakI pratIti dRuDh karanI. jignAsA, laganI lagAnI. gnAyakakI pratIti dRuDh karanI. bhedagnAnakI dhArA, dravya par dRuShTi, yathArtha gnAn, yathArtha dRuShTi sab taiyArI karanekA svayam prayatna karanA. sab pAtratA taiyAr karanI. puruShArtha kare to phir koI rokatA nahIn. svayam puruShArtha kare to usamen koI rokanevAlA nahIn hai. svayam svatantra hai, use jitanI bhI taiyArI karanI ho (usamen). taiyArI kare to samajh lenA, taiyArI ho jAy to mAn lenA ki deshanAlabdhi ho gayI hai. huyI hai yA nahIn huyI hai, aise apragaTako khojane jAneke bAvajUd svayam andarase taiyArI karanI.

bhagavAnakI vANIkA dhodh barasatA ho, unakI vANIke nimittase anek jIvonko samyagdarshan hotA thA, anek jIv munidashA angIkAr karate, anek jIvonko kevalagnAn hotA thA, sab hotA thA. puruShArtha svayam kare to (hotA hai).

vaise hI gurudevakA dhodh barasatA thA, usamen deshanAlabdhi na ho aisA nahIn banatA. bahut jIvonko hotI hai. jisakI pAtratA ho (use hotI hai). unakI vANIkA dhodh barasatA thA. use khojane jAy aur santuShTa honA, isake bajAy svayam taiyArI vartamAn puruShArtha karake kare. ... vaise gurudevakI vANI aisI thI ki anek jIvonko ruchi taiyAr ho jAye, svarUp sanmukh ho jAye, aisI gurudevakI vANI thI. yah to panchamakAl hai, isaliye munidashA aur Age baDhanA bahut durlabh hai. lekin gurudevakI vANIkA dhodh aisA thA ki sabako ruchi pragaT ho, andarase mArga prApta ho jAye, ho sake aisA thA. svayam andarase taiyArI karake, svayam andarase gnAyakakI pratIti dRuDh kare, apane hAthakI bAt hai.

... vah sab to hotA hai. svayam puruShArtha kare, pAtratA taiyAr kare, vah sab apane hAthakI bAt hai. gurudevane kahA hai vahI kahanA hai. svayam antaramense jo gurudevane kahA hai vah karanA hai. isaliye svayamko pAtratA taiyAr karanI hai. usakA kAraN svayamkI kShati hai, svayamkA pramAd hai. koI rokatA nahIn hai. svayam bAhar aTakA hai, apanI ruchikI kShati hai. svayamko utanI laganI nahIn lagI hai ki mujhe AtmAkA karanA hI hai. mujhe bhavakA abhAv kaise ho? mujhe AtmA kaise pragaT ho? gnAyak kaise samajhamen Aye?

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chaitanyadev kaise samajhamen Aye? utanI svayamko andar lagI nahIn hai, laganI nahIn lagI hai, usakI jarUrat nahIn lagI hai. bAhar rukA hai, puruShArtha uThanA use mushkil paDatA hai. svayamko andar lagI hai to kare binA rahe nahIn ki yahI karanA hai, dUsarA kuchh nahIn karanA hai. svayamkI kShati hai.

mumukShu- navakAr mantrake andar dravyalingI munirAjako bhI svIkAr nahIn kiyA ki kiyA?

samAdhAna- navakAr mantramen namaskAr Ate hain usamen? vah sab bhAvalingI muni hain, bhAvalingI muni hain, sachche muni hain. AchArya, upAdhyAy, sAdhu sab bhAvalingI muni hain. unako namaskAr kiyA hai.

mumukShu- bhAvalingI bhagavantonko hI navakAr mantrake andar liyA gayA hai.

samAdhAna- hAn. muniko liye hain. antaramen jo chhaThThe-sAtaven guNasthAnamen jhulate munirAj hain. digambar dashA antaramen aur bAhya. jise antaramen antarang dashA pragaT huyI hai, chhaThThe- sAtavAn guNasthAnakI, antarmuhUrta-antarmuhUrtamen svAnubhUti pragaT hotI hai. antarmuhUrta bAhar Aye, antarmuhUrtamen andar jAte hain. aisI jinakI dashA hai, aise munirAjako grahaN karanA.

mumukShu- ... hamArA kuchh kalyAN ho.

samAdhAna- mArga to ek hI hai, AtmAkI ruchi baDhAnI, gnAyakako pahachAnanA. AtmA par-dravya par dRuShTi karanI, bhedagnAn karanA, vahI karanekA mArga ek hI hai. shrImadane bhI vahI kahA hai aur gurudevane vah kahA hai. mArga to ek (hI hai)-AtmAko (pahachAnanA). vibhAv apanA svabhAv nahIn hai, (usase) bhinna paDanA vah hai.

mumukShu- vah baDhAne jAte hain, vahAn bAhya audayik bhAv aur bAhya vyavahAramen aTak jAnA hotA hai. mumukShukI kaisI bhUmikA honI chAhiye?

samAdhAna- usakA ras svayamko andar paDA hai. chaitanyakI orakA ras baDhAnA chAhiye. bAharake ras phike paD jAye. antarakA ras baDhAnA chAhiye, ruchi baDhAnI chAhiye. andar use khaTak rahanI chAhiye ki mujhe AtmA kaise pahachAnamen Aye? AtmAmen hI sarvasva hai, bAhar kahIn nahIn hai. AtmA hI sarvasva anupam padArtha hai aur adabhUt padArtha hai, usakI mahimA AnI chAhiye. bAharamen use ras Aye, (vah) ras phike paD jAye to svayamkI or jhuke.

shubh pariNAmamen dev-guru-shAstra aur antaramen merA shuddhAtmA mujhe kaise pahachAnamen Aye? aisI ruchi andar bArambAr (honI chAhiye), bArambAr khaTak rahanI chAhiye ki karanA andar hai, bAhar jAnA vah chaitanyakA svarUp nahIn hai. mujhe chaitanya kaise pahachAnanemen Aye? aisI ruchi andar (hokar) bArambAr dRuDhatA karanI chAhiye. ekatvabuddhi to anAdikI ho rahI

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hai. andaramen kShaN-kShaNamen svayam prayAs karatA nahIn. kShaN-kShaNamen ekatvabuddhi khaDI hai. thoDA karake use aisA lagatA hai ki bahut kiyA. antaramen kShaN-kShaNamen, main gnAyak hUn, yah (vibhAv) merA svarUp nahIn hai. aise mahimA lAkar honA chAhiye. gnAyak koI mahimAvant padArtha hai. bolane mAtra nahIn, gnAyak aisA jAnA, jAnane mAtra gnAyak aisA nahIn. gnAyak ek adabhUt padArtha hai. usakI mahimA lAkar bAr-bAr kShaN-kShaNamen usakI laganI lage, bArambAr us orakA puruShArtha kare to hotA hai.

mumukShu- shAstra shravaN jyAdA hotA hai ki jin pratimAke darshan hote hain ki tattva vichAr jyAdA hote hain? ek karane jAte hain to dUsaremen aTak jAte hain, dUsaremen karane jAte hain to tIsaremen aTak jAte hain.

samAdhAna- dhyey ek shuddhAtmAkA (honA chAhiye). tattvakA vichAr kare, parantu tattva vichAre, pUjAse, usakI bhaktise use yadi shAnti lagatI hai aur AtmAke vichAr sphurit hote ho to aisA kare. shAstra svAdhyAyamen use ras lagatA ho to vaise kare. svayamkI jis prakArakI yogyatA ho, vahAn ruke, parantu dhyey ek (honA chAhiye ki) mujhe shuddhAtmA kaise pahachAnamen Aye? tattva vichAr karake andaramen nirNay kare ki main gnAyak hI hUn. sachchI samajh kaise ho? tattva vichAr karake andar nirNay karanekA prayatna kare. bAkI jahAn use ras lage vahAn ruke. yahIn rukanA yA vahIn rukanA aisA nahIn hotA.

sachchA gnAn andar ho, tattvake vichAr hone chAhiye. lekin prayojanabhUt (honA chAhiye). jyAdA jAne to hI hotA hai, aisA nahIn hai. ek AtmAko pahachAne to usamen sab A jAtA hai. AtmAke dravya-guN-paryAy kyA hai? yah pudagal kyA hai?la usake dravya- guN-paryAy kyA hai? do tattva bhinna hai. yah vibhAv apanA svabhAv nahIn hai. amuk prayojanabhUt tattva jAne, isaliye tattva vichAr to bIchamen Aye binA rahate nahIn. parantu usamen adhik dRuDhatA lAneke liye, use jahAn ruchi lage vahAn ruke. jin pratimAke darshanamen use adhik shAnti aur vichAr sphurit hote ho to vaisA kare. svAdhyAyamen adhik ras AtA ho to vaise kare. bAkI vichAr, nirNay karake gnAyakakI or jhukanA hai. sabamen dhyey ek hI honA chAhiye ki mujhe bhedagnAn ho aur AtmAkA svarUp kaise samajhamen Aye? dravya par dRuShTi kaise ho? dhyey to ek hI honA chAhiye. bAharamen rukanese sab ho nahIn jAtA, karanA antaramen hai. gurukI mahimA kare. gurune kyA kahA hai, usake vichAr kare. jahAn use ras lage vahAn rahe. parantu tattva nirNay karake andar Age baDhanA hai.

mumukShu- umra baDhane lagI hai, kesh shvet hone lage hain, yadi svasamvedan nahIn huA to hamArI dashA kyA hogI? ApakA AdhAr milA, phir bhI prApti nahIn hotI, kyon hotA nahIn? yA phir hamArA gnAyakakA gholan bolane mAtra hogA yA raTan jaisA hogA?

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samAdhAna- jUThA nahIn parantu prayAs nahIn karatA hai. yathArtha vastuke Age to sab aisA hai, parantu vah jUThA nahIn hai. svayamko bhAvanA hotI hai. parantu sachchI samajh karake gnAyakakA Ashray karaneke liye prayAs chAhiye, utanA prayAs nahIn karatA hai, pramAd hai. satake gahare sanskAr paDe, apUrva ruchi antaramense ho, kuchh apUrvatA lage to bhI Age jAkar use prApta honekA avakAsh hai. parantu andaramen use apUrvatA laganI chAhiye. apUrvatA lage, kuchh alag hai, utanA andar Ashcharya laganA chAhiye. abhI use hotA nahIn hai, prayAs manda hai, parantu yadi antaramen apUrvatA lagI hai to bhaviShyamen bhI puruShArtha karake prApta karanekA avakAsh hai. shAstramen AtA hai, "tatprati prItichitten yen vArtApi hi shrutA'. antarakI prItise tattvakI bAt sunI hai to bhI vah bhAvi nirvANakA bhAjan hai. parantu vah antarakI prIti kis prakArakI? koI apUrva prIti antaramense (Aye), jo kabhI nahIn AyI, vaisI. is prakAr tattvakI bAt use koI apUrva lage, AshcharyakArI lage aur andar AtmA AshcharyakArI lage to bhaviShyamen usakA puruShArtha hue binA rahatA nahIn.

mumukShu- bAt yathArtharUpase pariNamatI nahIn hai, to satpuruSh prati premamen nyUnatA hai? yA .. ho sakatA hai?

samAdhAna- satpuruSh prati premamen nyUnatA aur AtmAkA prem nyUn hai. nimitta- upAdAn ek hai. antaramen use satpuruSh prati vaisI apUrvatA lagI nahIn hai, apUrva mahimA AyI nahIn hai yAnI ki antaramen AtmAkI mahimA, apUrvatA nahIn AyI hai. jaisA yahAn upAdAn aur nimitta,...

jise satpuruShakI apUrva mahimA Aye use AtmAkI apUrva mahimA Aye binA nahIn rahatI. jise AtmAkI apUrva mahimA Aye use satpuruShakI mahimA Aye binA nahIn rahatI. use satpuruShakI mahimA, gurukI mahimA apUrva nahIn AyI hai, to use AtmAkI bhI andaramen nahIn lagI hai. AtmAkI laganI hI nahIn hai. mujhe AtmA kaise prApta ho, aisI gaharI laganI nahIn hai, isaliye use satpuruShakI apUrva mahimA AtI nahIn hai. antaramen lage use mahimA Aye binA rahatI. mahimA jise lage use antarakI ruchi jAgRut hue binA nahIn rahatI.

mumukShu- sajIvanamUrtike lakShya binA kalyAN nahIn hotA. bahut log kahate hain ki gurudevakI Tepase kalyAN ho? viDIyo Tepase kalyAN ho?

samAdhAna- sachchA mArga mile, mArga samajhanekA kAraN banatA hai. samajhanekA kAraN banatA hai, parantu deshanAlabdhi to pratyakSha satpuruShase prApta hotI hai. deshanAlabdhi honeke bAd...

gnAnakI visheSh nirmalatAke liye gurudevakI Tep sabako sAdhan banatA hai. jo satya mArga hai use jAnaneke liye, shAstrake artha kyA hai, shAstramen kyA AtA hai, gurudevane sab

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shAstronko khole hain. vah svayamkI matise kholane jAye to khol sake aisA nahIn hai. gurudevane sab shAstronke rahasya khulle kiye hain. vah sunanese shAstrommen kyA AtA hai, gurudevane pUrA mArga kyA prakAshit kiyA hai, vah visheSh-visheSh jAnanekA kAraN banatA hai. visheSh- visheSh jAnanekA, visheSh gnAn honekA kAraN banatA hai.

apane Ap svAdhyAy nahIn kar sakatA ho, samajhatA nahIn ho, use Tepamense ekadam samajhamen AtA hai. bAkI sarvapratham jo deshanAlabdhi hotI hai, usamen to sAkShAt dev, sAkShAt guru, sAkShAt vANIse hI hotI hai.

mumukShu- pratyakSha hI chAhiye?

samAdhAna- pratyakSha. anAdi kAlase jise pratham nahIn huA hai use pratyakSha nimitta ho to hotA hai. bAkI use amuk ruchi jAgRut ho jAye bAdamen visheSh jAnaneke liye gurudevakI vANI Tep rekorDing kAraN banatI hai. kuchh bhI shankA utpanna ho to vah Tepamense shankA-samAdhAn sab hotA hai.

deshanAlabdhi huyI hai yA nahIn, usakA vichAr karanekA koI kAm nahIn hai. svayam andar puruShArtha kare to ho sake aisA hai. deshanAlabdhi to pragaT pakaDamen Aye aisA nahIn hai. isaliye svayam puruShArtha kare, ruchi jAgRut kare to use deshanAlabdhi huyI hai, aisA samajh lenA. svayam yadi andarase vartamAnamen pragaT kare to usamen deshanAlabdhi sAthamen A jAtI hai. svayam kare to hotA hai. gurukA nimitta prabal hai, parantu puruShArtha-upAdAn svayam taiyAr kare to nimittako grahaN kiyA aisA kahanemen Aye. parantu yadi svayam puruShArtha nahIn karatA hai, to nimitta to prabal hai, parantu svayam karatA nahIn hai.

mumukShu- .. rah gayI hai, bahut Ashcharya jaisA lagatA hai. bahut Ashcharya jaisA lagatA hai. kyonki yah ek baDA ...

samAdhAna- mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai ki gurudev yahAn padhAre aur yah vANI rah gayI. gurudevakI vANI sAkShAt sunaneke liye barason tak logonko milI hai. vah bhI mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. gurudev sab mumukShuke bIchamen rahakar barason tak vANI barasAyI hai, vah mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. aisI sAkShAt vANI milanI mushkil hai, is panchamakAlake andara. aisA sAkShAt gurukA yog aur sAkShAt vANI milanI is panchamakAlamen atyant durlabh hai. usamen vah milI to mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. phir taiyArI to svayamko karanI hai.

(munirAj to) jangalamen vicharate hain. gurudev, mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai ki yahAn sabake bIch rahakar vANI barasAyI, sabako unakI aisI apUrva vANI milI, mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai.