Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration). Track: 77.

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samAdhAna- .. svIkAr kiyA to sahI, antaramense use shuddha paryAy pragaT ho to usane svIkAr kiyA hai. trikAl shuddha dravya svayam sarva prakArase shuddha hai. usakA svIkAr kiyA hai. andar vaisI us prakArakI antaramense pratIt pragaT ho, usakI shuddha paryAy pragaT ho, usakI svAnubhUti pragaT ho to usane vAstavik rUpase svIkAr kiyA hai. nahIn to usane buddhise vichAr karake svIkAr kiyA hai.

satya svIkAr to use kahate hain ki trikAlI dravya par barAbar yathArtha shraddhA ho ki main to anAdi ananta shuddha, sarva prakArase shuddha hUn. pAriNAmikabhAv anAdi ananta shuddha hai. dravya-guN-paryAy sarva prakArase shuddha hai. vaise pragaT paryAyamen shuddhatA hai. sarva prakArase shuddha hai, aisI pratIt use dRuDh ho aur us prakArakI pariNati pragaT ho to usane svIkAr kiyA hai. usakI dRuShTi dravya par jAtI hai. gnAnamen sab jAnatA hai. dRuShTi dravya par jAtI hai aur gnAyakakI bhedagnAnakI pariNati, gnAyakakI gnAyakadhArA pragaT ho, svAnubhUti ho to usane svIkAr kiyA hai.

dravyakI dRuShTimen dravya, guN, paryAyakA bhed karake nahIn jAnatA hai. vah to ek dravya par dRuShTi rakhI hai. usamen use sab sAthamen A jAtA hai. bAkI use bhinna nahIn hai. bhed karake dRuShTi bhed nahIn karatI. gnAnamen sab jAnatA hai.

mumukShu- gnAn bhI vartamAnamen abhed ho jAtA hai us kAlamen to.

samAdhAna- svAnubhUtike kAlamen to gnAn abhed yAnI gnAn svayamko jAnatA hai, gnAn apane guNonko jAnatA hai, apanI paryAyako jAnatA hai. upayog jo bAhar jAtA thA vah nahIn jAtA hai. bAkI svayam svako jAne, apane guNonko jAne, apanI paryAyonkA jAnatA hai. dRuShTi abhed hai, parantu gnAn to sab abhed-bhed dononko jAnatA hai. dravya svayam anAdi ananta hai. usamen guNakA bhed vastubhed (rUp) nahIn hai, parantu lakShaNabhed hai. use paryAyamen ansh-anshIkA bhed hai. vah jaisA hai vaisA dravyakA svarUp gnAn barAbar jAnatA hai.

svAnubhUtike kAlamen abhed ho jAtA hai isaliye vah kuchh jAnatA nahIn hai, aisA nahIn hai. guN, paryAy Adi gnAn kuchh nahIn jAnatA hai, aisA nahIn hai. svAnubhUtike kAlamen


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sab jAnatA hai. svAnubhUtimen svayam dravyako abhed jAnatA hai, guNonkA bhed jAnatA hai, usakA vedan svAnubhUtimen jAnatA hai, shuddha paryAyako jAnatA hai. gnAn sab jAnatA hai. gnAn potAnI anubhUtikI paryAyako gnAn na jAne to dUsarA kaun jAne? gnAn sab jAnatA hai. abhed ho jAye isaliye kuchh jAnatA nahIn hai, usakI vedanakI paryAyako bhI nahIn jAnatA hai, aisA nahIn hai.

mumukShu- jAnatA huA antar Anandake vedanamen magna ho jAtA hai.

samAdhAna- jAnatA huA. vikalpa nahIn hai, nirvikalpa hai. AkulatA nahIn hai, rAg nahIn hai. shAntadashA, shAntimay dashA, Anandamay dashAko jAnatA huA AtmAmen lIn hai.

mumukShu- ToDaramalajI sAhab pharamAte hain ki pradeshakA to pratyakShapanA hotA nahIn, anubhavake kAlamen. mAtra rAgarahit dashA antaramen pragaT huyI hai, us rAgarahit dashAmen hI AnandakA vedan karake gnAn andar ruk jAtA hai.

samAdhAna- pradeshako jAn nahIn sakatA. (usakA koI) prayojan nahIn hai. gnAn svayam svAnubhUtikA vedan karatA hai. rAg chhUT gayA, (phir bhI) svayamkA astitva hai na? shUnya nahIn ho gayA. rAg chhUT gayA, parantu AtmA svayam to khaDA hai. nirvikalpa dashAmen AtmA khaDA hai. vItarAgI dashAmen rAg chhUT gayA isaliye andarase AtmAkI vItarAgI dashA pragaT hotI hai. Anshik rAg chhUT gayA, pUrNa vItarAg nahIn hai, parantu Anshik vItarAgI dashA hai. isaliye apanA vedan hai. apanI vedanakI dashAko jAnatA hai. pratyakSha gnAn bhale nahIn hai.

pratyakSha gnAn kevalagnAnIko hai. pradesh Adi sab kevalagnAnI jAnate hain. pratyakSha nahIn hone par bhI svAnubhav pratyakSha hai. mati-shrut parokSha hone par bhI usakI svAnubhUti pratyakSha hai. vedan apekShAse pratyakSha hai. vah kisIko pUchhane nahIn jAnA paDatA. svAnubhUti vedan apekShAse pratyakSha hai. rAg chhUT gayA isaliye shUnya ho gayA, aisA nahIn hai. rAg chhUT gayA to antaramen jo AtmA vItarAgI svarUp, nirvikalpasvarUp thA, aise AtmAkI svAnubhUti pragaT huyI. adabhUt anubhav dashA, siddha jaisA ansh pragaT hotA hai. jAgRut dashA hai. rAg chhUT gayA isaliye shUnya dashA nahIn hai, jAgRut dashA hai.

mumukShu- jaD jaisA nahIn ho gayA.

samAdhAna- hAn, jaD jaisA nahIn ho gayA hai. bAharakA jAnanA chhUT gayA aur rAg chhUT gayA isaliye jaD jaisA ho gayA, kuchh jAnatA nahIn, aisA nahIn hai. apanA vedan svayamko pratyakSha hai. kevalagnAnI pUrNa pratyakSha hain. svayam svayamko jAne, anyako jAne, unakA gnAn pratyakSha ho gayA hai. kyonki unako manake vikalpa, rAgakA ansh mUlamense


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kShay ho gayA hai. (nIchekI dashAmen) rAgakA ansh mUlamense kShay nahIn huA hai, parantu amuk anshamen chhUT gayA isaliye jAgRut dashA hai. svAnubhUtikI dashA hai. svayam svayamkI anupam adabhUt dashAko vedatA hai ki jise koI bAhya upamA nahIn dI jA sakatI. chaitanyakI svAnubhUtikA koI bAhya upamA lAgU nahIn paDatI. adabhUt anupam dashA hai.

mumukShu- ... prApta kar le aur manuShya prApta na kare to manuShyamen jyAdA buddhi ho to jyAdA aTakatA hai?

samAdhAna- aisA kuchh nahIn hai ki manuShya jyAdA aTake. is pancham kAlamen aisI yogyatAvAle jIv hai ki unhen durlabh ho paDA hai. manuShya jyAdA aTake aisA nahIn hai. vartamAnamen to menDhak bhI nahIn kar sakatA hai. sabako durlabh ho gayA hai. aur manuShyonko durlabh ho gayA hai.

chaturtha kAl jo sulabh kAl thA, jIvonkI pAtratA adhik ugra thI. aisI pAtratAvAle jIv the. sAkShAt bhagavAnakA yog thA. sAkShAt kevalagnAnIkA yog thA, chaturtha kAl thA aur jIv bhI aisI taiyArIvAle the. isaliye kitane hI manuShyonko to hotA hai, parantu tiryanch jaisonko bhI hotA hai, aisA kAl thA. manuShyonko kShaN-kShaNamen jaldI ho jAtA thA, parantu menDhak jaise tiryanchonko bhI hotA thA. vaisA vah kAl sulabh kAl (thA) aur aisI pAtratAvAle jIv the. yahAn jo janma lete hain, vah aisI hI pAtratA lekar Ate haiain ki jinhen sab durlabh ho jAtA hai. isaliye manuShyommen utanI taiyArI nahIn hai aur tiryanchommen to taiyArI to bilakul nahIn dikhAI detI. tiryanchommen samajhanA atyant kaThin hai. manuShyonko durlabh hai, tiryanchonko durlabh hai. chaturtha kAlamen anek manuShyonko hotA thA aur tiryanchonko bhI hotA thA. sabako hotA thA.

mumukShu- mokShamArga kahAn-se shurU hotA hai?

samAdhAna- mokShamArga samyagdarshanase shurU hotA hai.

mumukShu- Aj subah 232 gAthA gurudevake pravachanamen chalI thI. usake antargat AyA thA ki...

samAdhAna- samyagdarshanakI apekShAse mokShamArga samyagdarshan jab huA tab mokShamArga shurU hotA hai. chAritrakI apekShAse kevalagnAnakI prApti hotI hai, pUrNa bAdamen hotA hai. ansh to pahale pragaT hotA hai. pahale ansh pragaT hotA hai, pUrNatA chAritra hove tab hotI hai. mArga shurU ho jAtA hai. aur kevalagnAnakI apekShAse chAritrakI apekShAse mokShamArga munikI dashAmen hotA hai.

ruchi to svayamko karanI paDatI hai. bAharakI ruchi lagI hai. AtmAkI mahimA nahIn


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AtI, AtmAko pahachAnanekA vichAr nahIn karatA, AtmAkI mahimA nahIn AtI hai, ruchi kahAn-se lage? mahimA sab bAharakI hai.

mumukShu- koshish to bahut karate hain.

samAdhAna- koshish karatA hai to bhI pUrI koshish nahIn hotI. kAraN thoDA detA hai, kArya kahAn-se Ave?

mumukShu- is jIvako AtmAkI mahimA kaise Aye? AtmAkA vishvAs kaise baiThe?

samAdhAna- vishvAs (A sakatA hai), AtmAke svabhAvako pahachAne to vishvAs (AtA hai). bAhar dekhe to bAhar kahAn (hai)? bhItaramen dekhe to kahIn shAnti nahIn hai, AkulatA-AkulatA lagatI hai. AkulatA lage to sukh kahAn hai? sukh-sukh karatA hai, sukh bAharase nahIn milatA. sukh to bhItaramen-AtmAmen hotA hai. AtmAmen sukh hotA hai. aisI pratIt karanI chAhiye, aisA nirNay karanA chAhiye, svabhAvako pahachAnanA chAhiye. sab nakkI karanA chAhiye, tab ho sakatA hai. bAkI bAhar to bahut karatA hai, parantu bhItaramen AkulatA lagatI hai. to AkulatA AtmAkA svabhAv nahIn hai. shAnti, sukh AtmAkA svabhAv hai. usakA vichAr karake nirNay karanA chAhiye.

mumukShu- sukh svabhAvako dekhe tab sukhakI mahimA Aye. sansArase dukh lage...

samAdhAna- AtmAkI ruchi lage, AtmAmen sab paDA hai, AtmA anupam tattva hai, AtmA adabhUt tattva hai. jagatase, vibhAvase bhinna AtmA koI adabhut anupam tattva hai. usakA Ashcharya laganA chAhiye, usakI mahimA laganI chAhiye, tab ho sakatA hai.

mumukShu- ek-ek bolamen bahut AyA hai. bahinashrIke vachanAmRutamen ApakI kitAbamen ek-ek bolamen mahimA bharI huyI hai.

samAdhAna- aisI svAnubhUti, samyagdarshan, AtmAkI apUrvatA, adabhut, anupam... samyagdRuShTi chakravartI gRuhasthAshramamen hove to bhI AtmAkI svAnubhUti hotI hai. bAdamen usakI pUrNatA karaneke liye munidashA (AtI hai). chAritra kam hai to pUrI lInatA nahIn hotI hai. lInatA munidashAmen hotI hai. isaliye mokShamArga vahAnse shurU hotA hai. samyagdarshanakI apekShAse pahale shurU ho jAtA hai. shurUAt to vahAnse hotI hai. samyagdarshanamen bhavakA abhAv ho jAtA hai. AtmA anupam apUrva hai, usakI mahimA Ave, usakI laganI lage tab ho sakatA hai.

mumukShu- sarva samarpaN kare tab AtmA mile. ...

samAdhAna- hAn. idhar-Udhar kahIn-kahIn ruk jAtA hai, parakI mahimA AtI hai, AtmAkI mahimA AtI nahIn. AtmAko sarva samarpaN kar de. bas, AtmA hI koI apUrva anupam vastu hai. usako batAnevAle gurudev to apUrva vANI barasA gaye hain.


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mumukShu- unakA upakAr to jIvanamen koI bhUlA nahIn sakatA.

samAdhAna- hAn, barason tak vANI barasAyI, aisA apUrva mArga darshAyA. AtmAkA apUrva muktikA mArga (darshAyA). sabako jAgRut kiyA. pUre hindustAnamen sabako jAgRut kiyA. ruchi bAharamen kriyAmen the. bhItaramen mokShakA mArga hai. gurudevane bahut samajhAyA hai.

mumukShu- bahinashrI! kartAbuddhi kaise TUTe? din bhar karun-karun kartAbuddhi kaise TUTe?

samAdhAna- kartAbuddhi, gnAyakako pIchhane tab kartAbuddhi TUTatI hai. main gnAtA hI hUn. gnAtAkA vishvAs AnA chAhiye, gnAtAkI pratIt AnI chAhiye ki main gnAyak hI hUn. main to jAnanevAlA, main to udAsIn gnAtA hI hUn. main parako kar nahIn sakatA. par to svatantra dravya hai. pudagal, usake dravya-guN-paryAy svatantra hai. usake guN-paryAy sab svatantra hai. main kisIko badal sakUn aisI shakti meremen nahIn hai. sabake puNya-pApake udayase sab chalatA hai. to bhI main karun-main karun karatA hai.

main to gnAyak hUn. gnAyakakI pratIt Ave, gnAyakakA vishvAs Ave, tab ho sakatA hai. kartAbuddhi TUTe... main itanA satya paramArtha kalyAN hai ki jitanA yah gnAn hai. gnAyakamen santuShTa ho, usamen tRupta ho, usamen tU andar dekh, anupam sukh pragaT hogA. gnAnamAtra AtmAmen santuShTa ho jA.

mumukShu- satsang, samAgamamAn mahattva shrImad rAjachandrajI batAte hain, us par..

samAdhAna- anAdi kAlase apanA puruShArtha manda hai to bAhar asatsangamen aise pariNAmakI asar... satsangamen yathArtha vichAr karane, satya tattva samajhanekA yog mil, sachchI vANI mile, isase vichAr karanekA svayamko prayatna ho. yah satsangakA mahattva hai. asatsangamen to vichAr (nahIn chalate hain). aise bhI puruShArtha manda hai, jahAn-tahAn vichAr chale jAte hain, nirNay nahIn ho sakatA hai. isaliye jinhonne mArga samajhA hai, jo mArga gurudev darshAte the, yathArtha bAt karate hain, pariNAm usamen jAye to vichAr kare, ruchi baDhe, aisA sab hotA hai. main AtmAko kaise prApta karun? aisA to satsangamen ho sakatA hai.

mumukShu- andaramen taDap lage to aise satsangamen jAyegA.

samAdhAna- hAn, svayamko taDap lage, laganI lage to satsangamen jAyegA. nahIn to kuTumbamen, vyApAr-dhandhAmen pariNAm chalA jAtA hai. gurudevane bahut diyA hai.

mumukShu- ve to adabhut kar gaye hain! abhI bhI dekhe to kaN-kaNamen dekhakar Ansu bahate hain. gurudevane chAron orase kitanI karuNA pUrA bhArat ...

samAdhAna- 45-45 yahAn rahakar.. kaN-kaNamen gurudeva. svAdhyAy mandiramen virAjate the. ve virAjate the tab sab kuchh alaukik thA.

mumukShu- bahut de gaye hain, gurudev to de gaye, ab puruShArtha kare yah jIv aur


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sudhare...

mumukShu- AtmAkI anubhUtikA svAd kaisA hai?

samAdhAna- AtmAkI anubhUtikA svAd, usakI koI upamA nahIn ho sakatI hai. AtmAnubhUtikI koI upamA nahIn hai. vah to anubhav tattva hai. jaD padArthakI upamA chaitanyako mil nahIn sakatI. vibhAvakA, koI rAgakA, koI devalokake devonkA yA kisIkI bhI upamA use lAgU nahIn paDatI. vah to anupam hai. chaitanyatattva koI AshcharyakArI tattva hai. usakA svAd anupam, usakA gnAn anupam, agAdh gnAnase bharapUr, ek samayamen lokAlokako jAnanevAlA, aisI anant shakti (hai). ananta guNonse bharapUr adabhut anupam ananta guNonse bharapUr (hai). vah bolanemen koI upamAmen nahIn AtA hai.

mumukShu- jisane svAd chakhA vahI jAne, dUsarA nahIn jAn sakatA.

samAdhAna- usakI upamA nahIn ho sakatI hai. vah to anupam amRut svAda. anupamakI upamA nahIn hotI. vikalpa chhUT gayA, nirvikalpa svarUp AtmAmen lIn ho gayA, usakA svAd vahI jAnatA hai. jagat-duniyAse koI alaukik dUsarI duniyAmen chalA jAtA hai.

mumukShu- alaukik jIvan hai gnAnIkA!

samAdhAna- hAn, alaukik hai.

mumukShu- agnAnI thoDI pahachAn sakatA hai.

samAdhAna- ... svAnubhUti ho sakatI hai, samyagdarshan ho sakatA hai.

mumukShu- is jIvako bhAvasamvar kaise pragaT ho?

samAdhAna- bhAvasamvar to.... sabakA ek hI mArga hai. sabakA ek hI hai. jab gnAyakako pahachAne tab samvar hotA hai. sabakI ek hI bAt hai. muktikA mArga ek hI hai. samvarakA mArga, nirjarAkA mArga, samyagdarshan, sabakA mArga... jo mArga samyagdarshanakA, vahI mArga chAritrakA, sab ek hI mArga hai, dUsarA nahIn hai. ekamen koI dUsarA mArga aur dUsaremen dUsarA mArga aisA nahIn hai.

AtmA gnAyakako bhedagnAn kar (pahachAne). "bhedavignAnata siddhA siddhA ye kil kechan'. jo siddha hue ve bhedavignAnase hue, nahIn hue ve bhedavignAnake abhAvase nahIn hue. ek hI mArga hai. bhedagnAn karake AtmAko pahachAne, dravya par dRuShTi kare. bas, gnAyakako bhinna jAne, gnAyakakI bhinna pariNati (pragaT kare). kShaN-kShaNamen bhinna (paDe), khAte-pIte, nidrAmen, svapnamen bhinna rahe. svAnubhUti pragaT hove tab bhAvasamvar hotA hai. isamen visheSh lInatA hove to visheSh nirjarA hotI hai. samyagdarshan (honeke bAd) visheSh lInatA hove tab chAritradashA hotI hai. mArga to ek hI hai. dUsarA koI mArga nahIn hai. isakA dUsarA, isakA dUsarA


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(aisA nahIn hai). ek AtmAko pahachAne (usamen) sab A jAtA hai. aur sabako pIchhAne, AtmAko pIchhAne nahIn to kuchh jAnA nahIn. ek AtmAko pIchhAne usamen sab A jAtA hai. AtmAko jAnA usane sab jAnA aur AtmAko nahIn jAnA to gyArah angakA gnAn huA to bhI kuchh nahIn huA.

mumukShu- AtmA sukhI to nahIn huA.

samAdhAna- nahIn huA. AgamagnAn (kare), parantu usakA artha aisA nahIn hai ki jyAdA khUb jAne to muktikA mArga ho sakatA hai. amuk prayojanabhUt jAne to bhI AtmAkA svabhAv pragaT hotA hai. AgamagnAn hotA hai. bhagavAnakI vANI, bhagavAnane kyA kahA hai, shAstramen kyA AtA hai, AgamagnAn AtA hai. visheSh jAne to achchhA hai, thoDA jAne to bhI ho sakatA hai.

shivabhUti muni kuchh jAnate nahIn the. ek shabdakA gnAn bhI bhUl jAte the. mAruSh, mAtuSha. rAg-dveSh nahIn karanekA gurune kahA to vah bhI bhUl gaye. mAsatuSh ho gayA. usakA bhAv samajh liyA. aurat dAl aur chhIlakA alag karatI thI. aisA mere gurune kahA ki AtmA bhinna hai aur yah vibhAv bhinna hai. aisA bhedagnAn karake antaramen Utar gaye. mUl prayojanabhUt tattvako jAne.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho! mAtAjInI amRut vANIno jay ho!
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