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mumukShu- ... koI saral shAstra aisA ho, jisake liye samay kam ho... saral shAstra koI?

samAdhAna- samayasAramen bahut A jAtA hai. samayasAr shAstramen. aur gurudevake pravachan hain, usamen bhI bahut AtA hai. gurudevane pravachanommen shAstronke rahasya khole hain, usamen bahut AtA hai.

mumukShu- pravachan ratnAkaramen kitanA AyA hai.

samAdhAna- bahut AtA hai.

mumukShu- bahut saralase saral..

samAdhAna- saral ho jAtA hai. gurudevane bahut shAstronke rahasya khol-kholakar saral kar diyA hai saba. mokShamArga prakAshak paDhe to vah bhI achchhA hai. gurudevane bahut vANI barasAyI hai. koI shankA na rahe utanA spaShTa kar-karake bahut batAyA hai.

mumukShu- kholake rakh gaye hain ek-ekako...

samAdhAna- ek-ek bAtako khol-kholakar batAyA hai, bahut batAyA hai.

mumukShu- mAph karanA, prashna jarA aisA hai ki, mUrti vagairahakA prakaraN bIchamen A jAtA hai. isakA thoDA samAdhAn Apase ho sake.

samAdhAna- kyA kahate hain?

mumukShu- yah bhAvi tIrthankarakI jo mUrti hai yahAn par, to usakA prakaraN A jAtA hai. us sambandhamen Apase kuchh... apanane jo ghAtakI khaNDakI jo bhAvi mUrti banAyI hai.. ham logonko aisI kaShAyavAlI bAten A jAte hain,... jaise kI ham tIrtha yAtrAmen jAte hain, to log kahate hain ki ye log apane nahIn hai, inako mat ghUsane do.

samAdhAna- bhAvi tIrthankarakI pratimA virAjamAn kI hai na. bhAvi tIrthankar to ghAtakI khaNDamen bahut hote hain. ghAtakI khaNDamen, jambU dvIpamen, puShkar dvIpamen bhUt-vartamAn- bhAvi sab tIrthankaron bahut hote hain. jaghanyamen bIs aur utkRuShTamen to bahut hote hain. har kShetramen hote hain. yahAn to bhAvi tIrthankarakI pratiShThit kI hai. bhAvi tIrthankar to sab

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ho sakate hain.

bharat chakravartIne bhUt-vartamAn-bhAvi tIrthankaronkI pratimA virAjamAn kI hai. shAstramen AtA hai. bharat chakravartIne virAjamAn kI hai. bhUt-vartamAn-bhAvi tIn kAlakI chaubIsIkI pratimA unhonne virAjamAn kI hai. isamen to sabakA bhAv thA. parantu pratimA to bhAvi tIrthankarakI pratimA virAjamAn kI hai. usamen koI nAm to hai nahIn. bhAvi tIrthankarakI pratimA ghAtakI khaNDakI virAjamAn kI hai. sab log virodh karate hain to kyA kare? sabako bhAvanA huyI to virAjamAn kI. sabane virodh kiyA to kyA kare?

mumukShu- to virodh kaShAyamen jAyegA?

samAdhAna- vah to sabakI bAt sab jAne, aur kyA kare? virodh kisamen jAyegA? jisako AtmAkA kalyAN karanA hai, vah to aisI bAt nahIn karate.

mumukShu- us par vajan nahIn denA.

samAdhAna- tIrthankar bhagavAn to sab kShetramen hote hain.

mumukShu- bahinashrI! hamako to itanI upasarga jhelanI paDatI hai ki kahIn bhI jAyen...

samAdhAna- .. Adarane yogya hai. jinakI mudrA hai, pratiShThit nahIn ho to bhagavAnakI mudrA bhI AdaraNIy hai. to yah to vItarAgI pratimA hai. isamen koI anAdar karanA achchhA to nahIn hotA hai. bhagavAnakI mudrA pratiShThit nahIn hue to bhI bhagavAnakI mudrA hai to usakA anAdar nahIn karanA. shAstramen AtA hai, pAnImen le gaye to bhI ashAtanA hotI hai. bhagavAnakI mudrA to... bhagavAnakI mudrA hai, pratimA hai. jineshvar mudrA hai, usamen...

mumukShu- dUsare logonko matalab jo apanA virodh karate hain, unako kaise samajhAye aisI bAt?

samAdhAna- jisako AtmAkA kalyAN karanA hai... sab bAharakI bAtamen sab sabakI jAne. sabakA jhaghaDA sabake pAs raho. apane apanA kalyAN karanA hai. aise logonko pakaDakar, jUThA Agrah karake koI kare to karane do, kyA kare? apanA kalyAN apaneko karanA hai. sabako sampradAyakA bandhan ho gayA.

mumukShu- yah bhI ek alag gUTh ban gayA. usamen bhI gUThabAjI ho gayI. ye mUrtiko mAnanevAle hain...

samAdhAna- .. kyA hai koI vichAratA nahIn hai. ... bAt karate hain. sabako kriyA ruchatI thI to kriyA karanevAle virodh karate the ki ye muniko nahIn mAnate hain. yah to kAnajIsvAmIko mAnate hain. ye kriyAko nahIn mAnate hain, ye to sab bAt uDAte hain. aisI bAt karate hain. satya bAt Ave tab sab virodh karate hI hain, hotA hI hai.

mumukShu- .. bahut bAdhAen AtI hai. pUrvamen aise hI..

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samAdhAna- kyA kare? akhabAramen sab AtA hai. dUsare gAmvamen dekho, sanAvadamen, indauramen... usamen virodh kiyA. rathamen bhagavAnako, kundakundAchAryakI pratimA virAjamAn kI to ek or bhItaramen bhagavAnakI pratiShThA huyI aur kundakundAchAryadevakI. khIDakImen patthar aur dhamAl huyI. bhagavAnakI pratiShThAmen vighna DAlA. daravAje toD-toDakar...

mumukShu- abhI samayasAr nadImen DAlate hain.

samAdhAna- shAstra nadImen DAle to vah kyA hai? shAstronkI bhI ashAtanA karate hain. bhagavAnake mandiramen pratiShThA ho to usakI ashAtanA karate hain. apanI pakkaD grahaN kar-karake.... AchAryadevake shAstra hain, koI gharake thoDe hI hai. shAstrakI ashAtanA karate hain.

mumukShu- ek akShar idhar-Udhar nahIn hai. jinavANIkA..

samAdhAna- kundakundAchAryakI pratiShThA karate hain, AchAryadevakI aur bhagavAnakI to sabake sar par patthar (mAre). kisIko khun nikalA, aisA kiyA thA. kyA kare? yahAn chhape hain to gurudevake ho gaye? vah to AchAryadevake shAstra hain. AchAyAke shAstra hain.

samAdhAna- ... AThavAn dvIp hai, vahAn aisA mandir hai. vahAn shAshvat jinAlay hain. kisIne banAyA nahIn hai. kudaratakI rachanA hI aisI hai. jinAlay rach gaye hain. ratnake jinAlay hain. nIche sab parvat hain. ratikar, anjanagirI Adi parvat hain. un parvaton par jinAlay hain. un jinAlayonke andar pratimAen hain. pAnchasau-pAnchasau dhanuShake hain. aise baDe- baDe pratimA. jaise bhagavAn samavasaraNamen baiThe hon, vaise hI yah shAshvat (pratimAen hain). samavasaraNamen (bhagavAn virAjamAn hon) usI tarah bhagavAn baiThe hote hain. kisIne banAyA nahIn hai. jaise patthar kudaratI hai, vaise ratnarUp bane hain. pratimAonke AkAramen vah ratnakI pratimAke AkAr pariNamit ho jAte hain. aise 52 jinAlay hain. ekamen 108-108 pratimAen hain. nandIshvar hai, yahAn jambUdvIp hai. dUsarA hai, puShkar dvIp, ghAtakI khaNDa hai. aise Age-Age AThavAn nandIshvar dvIp hai, vahAn shAshvat jinAlay hain.

vahAn manuShya nahIn jA sakate hain, dev jA sakate hain. meru parvat hai vah jambU dvIpake bIchamen hai. pAnch meru hai. usamen bhI shAshvat jinAlay hain. ratnakI pratimAen hain. jaise bhagavAn hain, vaisA hI padmAsan, nAsAgra dRuShTi (hotI hai), mAtra vANI nahIn hotI. bAkI sab chhatra, chamvar sarva prakArase bhagavAn kamal par virAjamAn hote hain. aisA hotA hai. bhagavAnakI rachanArUp arthAt bhagavAn jagatamen sarvotkRuShTa hain, to kudaratakI rachanA bhI bhagavAnarUp kudaratI hotI hai, jagatake andara. vahAn mandir hote hain?

mumukShu- hAn, mandir hai.

samAdhAna- nandIshvaramen kudaratI shAshvat bhagavAn hain. panch parameShThI bhagavAn hain. ruchi kaise ho? AtmA jagatamen sarvotkRuShTa hai. panch parameShThI bhagavAn jagatamen sarvotkRuShTa hain. panch

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parameShThI par vaisI mahimA Aye aur jaise bhagavAn hain, vaisA svayamkA AtmA hai. jaise bhagavAnake dravya-guN-paryAy hain, vaise apane hain. aisI ruchi ho, AtmAkI mahimA Aye, bhagavAnakI mahimA Aye, sab ho to usamen...

binA vichAr kiye mAlA kare to usamen to pariNAm kahAn jAyenge? bhagavAnakI utanI bhakti honI chAhiye, panch parameShThIkI mahimA honI chAhiye, to pariNAm vahAn rahe. AtmAkI ruchi nahIn ho, sansArakI ruchi kam nahIn huyI ho, mAtra oghe-oghe bAharase apane kuchh kar le, kriyAmAtra karatA ho aur pariNAm to kahIn ke kahIn (bhaTakate ho). andar sab ras paDA ho. bhagavAn par utanI bhakti nahIn ho, AtmAkI ruchi nahIn ho (kahAnse ho)?

mumukShu- vichAr kare, lekin aisA hotA hai ki yah galat kAm hai, apane satya kare. galatamense satya aur shubh-ashubh hI hote rahate hain. vahAnse Age nahIn baDhA jAtA. aisA hotA hai ki yah karenge to karma bandhenge, isase karma chhUTenge, parantu usase Age kuchh nahIn hotA.

samAdhAna- AtmAkI ruchi andar honI chAhiye. yah sab paradravya hai, shubhAshubh bhAv merA svarUp nahIn hai. main bhinna jAnanevAlA gnAyak hUn. aise ruchi honI chAhiye. ras bAharakA paDA hai, andar chaitanyakA ras nahIn AtA, usakI mahimA nahIn lagatI.

mumukShu- samyakatva sanmukh mithyAdRuShTikI dashA kaisI hotI hai?

samAdhAna- usakA bAharakA lakShaN to kyA hogA? parantu antaramen use ekadam AtmAkI laganI lagI ho. ek chaitanya.. chaitanyake sivA kuchh ruchatA nahIn ho, use andarase bArambAr bhedagnAnakA abhyAs chalatA ho. pudagal sharIr so main nahIn, main AtmA hUn. yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahIn hai. aisA Upar-Uparase nahIn, parantu use gaharAIse (hotA hai). yah chaitanya svabhAv main hUn, yah main nahIn hUn. aisA bArambAr, use bArambAr antaramense aisI khaTak, aisA abhyAs use bArambAr-bArambAr chalatA hai. AtmAke sanmukh bArambAr (hotA ho). AtmA kaise grahaN ho? usakI dRuShTi bArambAr AtmAkI or jAtI ho. kaise AtmA grahaN ho? mujhe AtmA kaise grahaN ho? mujhe AtmA kaise grahaN ho? usakA gnAn ho, usamen lIn hoUn. kShaN-kShaNamen mujhe AtmA hI pragaT ho, dUsarA kuchh nahIn chAhiye, mujhe ek AtmA hI chAhiye. itanA andarase gaharAIse hotA ho. main parapadArthakA kuchh nahIn kar sakatA. mere svabhAvakA kartA main (hUn). parapadArthakA jaisA honevAlA ho vaisA hotA hai, main to gnAyak gnAtA hUn. lekin vaisI pariNati pragaT karaneke liye use antaramense gaharAIse khaTak lagatI ho.

bArambAr usakA abhyAs, gaharAIse abhyAs chalatA ho. AtmA grahaN huA ki hogA,

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aisI andar usakI dashA hotI hai. ekadam bhinna kaise hoUn? use kahIn ras nahIn hotA. jo-jo vikalpa Ave usamen nirasatA lage aur AtmAmen hI ras lage. AtmAkA svabhAv kaise grahaN ho? usakI sanmukhatA har vakta AtmAkI or jAtI ho. mujhe AtmA kaise grahaN ho? mujhe AtmA kaise grahaN ho? bArambAr usakI dRuShTi, usakA upayog bArambAr AtmAko grahaN karanekI or usake vichAr chalate hain, usakI dRuShTi bArambAr jAtI hai. antar lakShaN to vah hai ki antarakI pariNati, usakA hRuday bhIgA huA hotA hai. yah sab ras TUT gaye ho, antaramense ekadam AtmAkI gaharI ruchi jAgRut huI ho.

mumukShu- svasamvedanakI dashA bArambAr AtI hai, unhen kis kAraNase bArambAr AtI hai?

samAdhAna- bArambAr AtI hai, usakI pariNati vibhAvase bilakUl... use vikalpamen kahIn ruchatA nahIn hai. kahIn khaDe rahanekA sthAn nahIn hai. usakI pariNati sabase chhUT gayI hai. sab sankalpa-vikalpa bAharake (chhUT gaye hain). sab kaShAy, pratyAkhyA, apratyAkhyAn sab kaShAy ekadam kShay nahIn hue hain, parantu nahInke barAbar ho gaye hain. mAtra sanjvalan hai, ekadam patalA sanjvalana. ashubh to hai hI nahIn. vah to sattAmAtra hote hain. thoDe- thoDe uday ho to, vah to ekadam gauN (ho gaye hain). unhen upayogamen nahIn Ate hain, us prakArake ho gaye hain. shubh pariNati hai to bhI us shubh pariNatimen bhI bahut rukate nahIn hai. bArambAr svAnubhUtikI or jAte hain. unhen kahIn rukanekA sthAn bAharamen nahIn hai.

unhen kahIn achchhA nahIn lagatA hai. andar chaitanyakI sthiratA, lInatA bahut baDh gayI hai. AhArakA vikalpa Ave, vihArakA vikalpa Ave, aisA kisIko vikalpa AtA hai. to AhAr karate-karate bhI svarUpamen lIn ho jAte hain. bAharase dikhanemen nahIn AtA. kShaN-kShaNamen lIn ho jAte hain. unakI vibhAvakI sab pariNati, sab kaShAyonki pariNati itanI TUT gayI hai ki bAhar upayog kahAn khaDA rahe? upayog khaDA rahaneke liye koI sthAn hI nahIn hai. bAhar upayog kahAn ruke? sharIr parase bhI rAg uTh gayA hai. sharIrako dekhaneko, kuchh sunanekA, bAharakA koI Ashcharya rahA nahIn. sharIramen dhUp-sardI lage to mujhe kyA? kuchh nahIn hotA, vah to sharIr hai. vah to pudagalako hotA hai. bAharase to sab chhUT gayA, bAharase sab ras chhUT gaye. itanI ugratA ho gayI, kaShAy bilakUl (kam ho gaye), bhItaramen sthiratA itanI baDh gayI. bAharase TUT gayA, bhItaramen svarUpakI ramaNatA itanI jam gayI ki bas, bArambAr svarUpamen hI jam gaye. vah sab TUT gayA aur svarUpamen aise jam gaye, aisI lInatA ho gayI ki bArambAr (lInatA ho jAtI hai). ek kShaN bAhar Ave to kShaNamen antaramen jAte hain, kShaNamen bAhar Ave to kShaNamen antaramen jAte hain. itanI bhItaramen ugra lInatA ho gayI hai. bArambAr nirvikalpa dashA hotI

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hai.

mumukShu- bADh AtI hai, gurudev pharamAte the.

samAdhAna- hAn. itanI bADh AtI hai, pravAh AtA hai. bas, AtmA.. AtmA.. AtmA. sonekA vikalpa bhI nahIn, nidrA bhI alpa ho gayI, sab alpa ho gayA. nidrA kaun kare? main to jAgRut hUn. nidrA kahAn AtmAkA svabhAv hai? main to jAgRut svabhAvI hUn. aisA ho gayA hai. nidrA bhI TUT gayI, AhAr bhI aisA ho gayA, kahIn vikalpa nahIn rukatA. AtmAmen lInatA ho gayI hai. chaitanyamUrti, main chaitanyamUrti hUn, chaitanyamUrtirUp ban gayA. ab kevalagnAn le itanI (der hai). kevalagnAnakI talahaTImen A gaye hain. bas! aisI dashA ho gayI ki bArambAr bhItaramen jAte hain. aisI munikI dashA hotI hai. lInatA ho gayI hai. antarakI svarUpakI vRuddhi hotI jAtI hai.

samyagdRuShTi gRuhasthAshramamen hote hain to bahut parigrah ho to usakA vikalpa hotA hai. ... muniko sab vikalpa TUT gayA. svarUpamen aisI lInatA ho gayI, aisI lInatA ho gayI. dravyalingI muni sab chhoDakar jAtA hai, vah yathArtha nahIn hai. yahAn to svarUpakI lInatA ho gayI hai. vikalpa bhItarase TUT gayA, svarUpakI lInatA ho gayI hai. bhinna ho gaye, sabase bhinna ho gaye. padArtha to bhinna hai. samyagdarshanamen Anshik bhinna hue the aur munidashAmen atyant bhinna ho gaye hain.

mumukShu- vastukA svabhAv vaisA hI ho to svayamko kuchh phalavAn ho. AtmAkA svabhAv gnAn, darshan Adi hai, phir bhI usakI paryAyamen jAnaneke liye itane puruShArthakI AvashyakatA kyon?

samAdhAna- svabhAv to aisA hai ki svarUpakI or Dhale aisA svabhAv hai. parantu anAdikA aisA ekatvabuddhikA abhyAs ho gayA hai ki usamen jAnekA puruShArtha (jaldI chalatA nahIn). pratham bhUmikA vikaT hotI hai. samajh pIchhe sab saral hai. pratham to ekatvabuddhi itanI gADh ho gayI hai ki vah chhUTanemen usakA ras chhUTatA nahIn. AtmAkI or jo jAtA hai, samyagdarshan honeke bAd to jaise pAnIkA pravAh yA nadImen bADh AtI hai to bADh bADhako khInchatI hai. shAstramen aisA AtA hai ki AtmAkA svabhAv pragaT ho to hove. bAdamen to dauDakar svarUpakI or jAtI hai, parantu pahale ekatvabuddhi hai to durlabh ho gayA hai. ekatvabuddhi anAdise aisI gADh ho gayI hai.

anAdi kAl huA, parantu yadi samyagdarshan hove to bAdamen itanA kAl nahIn lagatA. svarUpamen jAneke bAd svarUpakI pariNati svarUpakI or hI jAtI hai. puruShArtha vaisA hI hotA hai. sahaj puruShArtha hotA hai. puruShArtha karanemen kaThinatA nahIn lagatI. bAdamen usako puruShArtha karanemen kaThinatA nahIn lagatI. sahaj mArga dekhaneke bAd apanA svabhAv hai to

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sahajatAse, sahaj puruShArthase apanI or jAtA hai. pratham bhUmikA jAnatA nahIn hai, ekatvabuddhi hai, AtmAko pahachAnatA nahIn hai isaliye kaThin ho gayA hai. svabhAv hai isaliye sugam hai. antarmuhUrtamen ho jAtA hai, jisako hotA hai usako. nahIn hove to anant kAl ho gayA. svabhAv hai to svabhAv svabhAvakI or jAtA hai. ek bAr samyagdarshan huA bAdamen aisA nahIn ho jAtA, pahale thA vaisA. bAdamen to use avashya mukti hotI hI hai.