Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration). Track: 99.

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mumukShu- mAtAjI! gnAnaguNako Upar-Uparase pahachAnatA hai, gaharAIse nahIn pahachAnatA hai. to kRupA karake gaharAIse kis tarah pahachAne?

samAdhAna- gaharAIse pahachAnanekA svayam prayatna kare. yah gnAn hai vah koI vastukA hai. binA vastuke gnAnaguN nahIn hai. gnAn koI sat padArthakA guN hai. aisA vichAr kare to pahachAne. gnAn yAnI mAtra jAnatA hai, is tarah pahachAnatA hai. parako jAne vah jAnanevAlA gnAnaguN hai, is tarah pahachAnatA hai. parantu vah gnAn hai vah koI padArthakA guN hai. padArtha binAkA vah guN nahIn hai. is tarah andar svayam jignAsA laganI lagAye to pahachAn sake aisA hai. parantu usakI laganI hI nahIn lagAtA.

mumukShu- shrImadajIne aisA kahA hai ki, jIvakI utpatti jIvapadamAn jaNAy chhe, vah kaise? to kis apekShAse? bAt barAbar kahate hain. parantu jIvakI utpatti jIvapadamAn jaNAy chhe. deh shok rog shok dukh mRutyu, dehano svabhAv jIvapadamAn jaNAy chhe, vah to samajhamen AtA hai. parantu jIvakI utpatti jIvapadamen jaNAy chhe.

samAdhAna- jIvakI utpatti?

mumukShu- hAn, aisA shabdaprayog kiyA hai.

samAdhAna- andar svabhAv hai, sab jIvamen jAnanemen AtA hai. parantu mUl vastukI utpatti nahIn (hotI). usakI paryAyamen pheraphAr ho, vah jIvamen jAnanemen Ate hain. usakI paryAyen palaTatI hain, vah jIvamen gnAt hotI hai. vastukI utpatti to hotI nahIn. usamen ho to apekShAse likhA hogA. paryAyamen pheraphAr hote hain. vah usamen jAnanemen Ate hain.

vibhAv paryAy ho rahI hai, vibhAvamense svabhAv ho, svabhAvakI paryAy hotI hai, sab jIvamen jAnanemen AtI hai. use jAnanevAlA jIv hai. dravya-guN-paryAy sabako jAnanevAlA jIv hai. vah svayam sab jAnatA hai. svayam svayamko jAnatA hai, svayam par anya padAthAko jAne. aisA usakA gnAnaguN koI asAdhAraN hai. gnAn aisI anantAse bharA hai ki usamen sab gnAt hotA hai. gnAnakA svabhAv aisA hai.

ananta kAl gayA to bhI usakA gnAnasvabhAv to vaisAkA vaisA hai. vah jAn sake aisA hai. yah sharIr bhinna, yah vibhAv svabhAv apanA nahIn hai, svayam gnAyak hai. svayam


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svayamko jAn sakatA hai. utpatti yAnI usakI paryAyakI utpatti. vastu to utpanna nahIn hotI.

mumukShu- sat shabda hai na? sat chit aur Ananda. trikAl TikanevAlA hai, vah kaise khyAlamen Aye ki yah trikAl tInon kAl TikanevAlA jIv hai?

samAdhAna- jo hai vah hai hI. jo hai usakA nAsh nahIn hotA. gnAnaguN hai vah kisI jaDamense nahIn AtA. gnAnaguN hai koI vastuke Ashrayase rahA hai. jo hai, vastu hai, use koI utpanna nahIn kar sakatA. jo gnAn khyAlamen AtA hai, use koI utpanna nahIn kar sakatA hai, vah gnAn svayam hai. gnAn svayam hai to gnAn jisake Ashrayase rahA hai, aisA ek padArtha honA chAhiye.

vah sat hai. sat trikAl TikanevAlA hai. jo hai vah tInon kAl hai. vah shAshvat hai aur padArtharUp hai. mAtra guN nahIn, vichAr kare to gnAnaguN gambhIratAse bharA hai. usamen anantatA bharI hai.

mumukShu- ek gnAnaguNakI DorIse sab pakaDamen AtA hai.

samAdhAna- sab pakaDamen Aye aisA hai. hAn. gnAn hai vah sat hai. sat hai, use koI utpanna nahIn kar sakatA. chaitanyasvarUp hai. gnAn chetanatAse bharA hai. gnAn jaD nahIn hai, gnAn chaitanyasvarUp hai. gnAn jyotisvarUp chamatkArayukta hai, gnAn divyasvarUp hai. aisI divyatAse bharA hai jo gnAn hai vah svayamsiddha hai. gnAn hai, vah gnAn koI padArtharUp hai, padArthakA svarUp hai vah gnAn hai.

mumukShu- svayamsiddha hai.

samAdhAna- svayamsiddha hai. vah anAdiananta hai. kisIne use utpanna nahIn kiyA hai, koI jaDamense gnAn utpanna nahIn hotA. athavA kisIse gnAnakA gnAn nahIn hotA. vah svayamsiddha hai. gnAn hai vah anantAse bharA divyasvarUp hai. chaitanya svayam divyamUrti hai. usakA gnAn bhI divyasvarUp hai.

mumukShu- ek AnandaguN bAkI rahatA hai. AnandakA kaisA AbhAs hotA hai? ki aisA divya gnAn hai to sAthamen Ananda bhI honA hI chAhiye.

samAdhAna- gnAnamen jo divyatA bharI hai, aisA AnandaguN.. bAharamen vichAr kare to jaD padArthamense, jaDamense Ananda nahIn AtA hai. kahIn bhI Ananda lene jAy to Ananda (milatA nahIn). vah to thak jAtA hai, Ananda lene jAnemen. apanI kalpanAse Arop karatA hai. chalanemen, phiranemen mAn-baDappan kahIn bhI Ananda lene jAtA hai. khAnemen- pInemen sabamen thak jAtA hai. kalpanAse sukh mAnatA hai. apane vichAr kahIn aur chalate ho to chalanemen, phiranemen, mAn, baDappanamen kahIn use Ananda nahIn AtA. shokamen baiThA


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ho to. vah koI Ananda (nahIn hai).

lekin AnandakI jhankhanA karatA hai, Anandako jo ichchhatA hai, vah svayam hI AnandasvarUp hai, isaliye AnandakI ichchhA karatA hai. jaD ichchhatA nahIn. jo svayam ichchhA karatA hai, vah svayam hI AnandasvarUp hai ki jise andarase aisI bhAvanA hotI hai ki mujhe Ananda chAhiye. aisI bhAvanA hai vah rAgarUp ho jAtI hai. lekin aisI jo antaramense (ichchhA hotI hai), aisI pariNatimen aisA hotA hai ki mujhe Ananda chAhiye. andarase jo use AnandakI bhAvanA utpanna hotI hai, vah svayam AnandasvarUp hai isIliye usakI bhAvanA utpanna hotI hai.

mumukShu- vaise to aisA khyAl AtA hai ki subahase shAm tak ek bhI AnandakA kiraN dikhAyI nahIn detA. aisA to khyAl AtA hai.

samAdhAna- Ananda kahIn dikhAyI nahIn detA. mithyA prayatna karatA hai. parantu Anandake binA use chalatA nahIn. kahIn bhI, koI bhI kalpanA karake mAn letA hai.

mumukShu- chAhiye Ananda.

samAdhAna- chAhiye Ananda. Ananda nahIn ho to bhI kalpanAse santuShTa hotA hai. ata Ananda usakA svayamkA hI guN hai ki jahAn-tahAn kalpanA karatA hai. Ananda binA use chalatA nahIn. jahAn-tahAn kalpanA karanevAlA vah svayam divyamUrti divya Anandase bharA hai, koI anupam Anandase bharA hai ki jo bAhar kalpanA kar rahA hai. ananta shaktionse bharA aisA chaitanyadev hai. usakI divyatA pragaT karaneke liye svayam aisI koI apUrva bhAvanA aur apUrva ras evan jignAsA pragaT kare to vah use divyatA pragaT kare.

bhagavAnane divya svarUp pragaT kiyA, pUrNa kevalagnAn mokSha ho gayA. divyatAyukta apanA svarUp hI hai. yadi vah svayam aisI bhAvanA pragaT kare to vah pragaT hue binA rahatA bhI nahIn. pratIt AnI chAhiye. samyagdarshan pragaT kare to usakI shurUAt hotI hai, usakI divya svAnubhUtikI. Age baDhanepar vah visheSh baDhatA jAtA hai. pUrNa Ananda pragaT ho jAtA hai. svAnubhUtimen ek ansh, Anshik Ananda use pragaT hotA hai. jaisA siddha bhagavAnakA Ananda hotA hai, vaisA hI Ananda use pragaT hotA hai. aisA anupam Ananda ki vah vANIse kah nahIn sakate. kyonki jo bAhar kalpanA kar rahA hai, vahI svayam AnandasvarUp hai.

andarase jo use bhAvanA utpanna hotI rahatI hai, vah Ananda binA rah nahIn sakatA. kitanI hI bAh shuShka Ananda mAnatA hai. use dukh hI hai, sukh to hai hI nahIn. kalpanA karatA hai.

mumukShu- vichAr kare to khyAl Ave..


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samAdhAna- vichAr kare. AkulatAmen sukh mAn letA hai. pravRutti karane jAtA hai. use aisA hotA hai, mujhe yahAnse Ananda milegA. pratyek pravRuttiommen thak jAtA hai. bAhya koI bhI pravRutti karanI, usakA svabhAv hI nahIn. anya padArthakA kartRutva mAnanA, usamen vah kuchh kar nahIn sakatA hai aur thak jAtA hai. to bhI usamen vah Ananda mAn rahA hai.

andar sthir ho jAnA aur nivRutta ho jAnA, andarase Ananda pragaT hotA hai, aisA hI usakA svabhAv hai. phir use aisA hotA hai ki mujhe antaramense koI shAnti prApta ho jAya. andar shAntikI ichchhA karanevAlA svayam hI shAntisvarUp hai. gnAyakake Ashrayase vahAn jAnatA hai ki yah main jAnanevAlA hai. usamen hI sabakuchh hai aisA lagatA hai. utanA use vishvAs AnA chAhiye.

jIv shAntikI ichchhAse jo vApas muDe to AtmAkI or bhI aise hI muDatA hai ki mujhe shAnti kahAn mile? mujhe Ananda kahAn mile? is hetuse svabhAvakI or muDatA hai. lekin use vishvAs AtA hai to muDatA hai. shAnti kahIn nahIn hai, to phir koI anya tattvamen bharI hai. jaDamen nahIn hai. chetan hI usakI ichchhA kar rahA hai. chetan hI ichchhatA hai, isaliye chetanamen bharI hai.

vah svayam AnandasvarUp hI hai. jaise svayam divyasvarUp hai, svayam ananta divya gnAnase bharA hai. ek samayamen use gnAnakI pariNati pragaT hotI hai. aisA svayam AnandasvarUp hai. aisA svayam ananta divya shaktiyonse bharA hai. bArambAr usakI shraddhA kare, usakI pratIt kare, usamen lInatA kare to vah pragaT hotA hai. jabatak na ho tabatak usakA raTan kare, bArambAr usakA vichAr kare, bArambAr dRuDhatA kare. vah AtA hai na? mere gnAnamen, mere dhyAnamen, sabamen... haiDe vaso mArA dhyAnamAn jinavANI mArA hRudayamAn. chaitanyadev base. merA haiDe hajo, mArA dhyAne hajo, mArA bhAve hajo.

aise shubhabhAvamen dev-guru-shAstra aur andar chaitanyadev, mere hRudayamen, mere bhAvamen, mere dhyAnamen baso. samyagdarshan huA to usamen to usane grahaN hI kar liyA. use (aise) grahaN karatA hai ki usakI dRuShTikI Dor vahAnse chhUTatI nahIn. dRuShTikI Dor jo usane bAndhI aur svAnubhUti pragaT huyI ki bas, pUrNatA pragaT karake chhUTatA jAtA hai.

mumukShu- ek bAr aisA anubhav ho, isaliye bAhya vastukA Ashcharya chhUT jAya.

samAdhAna- Ashcharya chhUT jAtA hai. pahale use bhAvanA hotI hai. bAharase Ashcharya chhUTakar andar jAtA hai ki andar kuchh alag hai, antaramen hai, bAhar nahIn hai. aisA prApta hone pUrva vishvAs A jAtA hai. vishvAs AtA hai. AkulatA dikhatI hai. kahIn shAnti nahIn hai. sab orase thakAn lagatI hai, ichchhA anusAr kuchh hotA nahIn, bhAvanA


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kuchh hotI hai aur banatA kuchh hai. antata AkulatAse thak jAtA hai. vichAr karake antaramen jAtA hai. antaramen hI shAnti hai, kahIn aur nahIn hai. bhale Ananda use anubhavamen nahIn A rahA hai, lekin vah nakkI karatA hai ki Ananda yahIn hai, kahIn aur jagah nahIn hai.

mumukShu- aisA vishvAs...?

samAdhAna- aisA usakA vishvAs pahale AnA chAhiye.

mumukShu- gurudev kahate hain, tU paramAtmA hai, paramAtmA hai, aisA vishvAs lA.

samAdhAna- jitane paramAtmAke guN hain, paramAtmAmen (hain), aise hI tujhamen hai. ananta guNonse bharA, ananta guNonse gUnthA huA tU paramAtmA hai. koI divya devasvarUp, tU svayam divyasvarUp hai.

mumukShu- puruShArtha utpanna karaneke liye bhI isI tarah, isI siddhAntase...?

samAdhAna- tU svayam hI hai. sarvasarva tU hI hai. bas, usakI shraddhA kar, usakA vishvAs lA. usakA gnAn kar, usakA vichAr kara. us or bArambAr jhuk, parakA Ashcharya chhoD de, terA Ashcharya lA. bas, vahI hai. bArambAr vahI karanekA hai.

.. Age baDhaneke liye shAstra svAdhyAy (kare). shAstramen kyA mArga AtA hai (yah jAnanA). gurudevane bahut pravachan kiye hain. usamen atyant spaShTa karake mArga batAyA hai. isaliye usakA vichAr karanA, usakA vAnchan karanA, svAdhyAy karanA. antaramen usakI laganI lagAnI, jignAsA karanI, AtmA kaise samajhamen Aye usake liye (prayatna karanA). AtmA jAnanevAlA gnAyak hai, yah shAshvat tattva anAdiananta hai. usakA kabhI nAsh nahIn hotA. svayamsiddha AtmA hai. use pahachAnaneke liye prayatna karanA. yah sharIr jaD kuchh jAnatA nahIn. andar vibhAv hote hain, vah bhI AkulatA hai. apanA svabhAv nahIn hai. usase bhinna AtmAko jAnanA. bhinna jAnaneke liye prayatna karanA. usake liye AtmAkA svarUp kyA, dravya-guN-paryAyakA kyA svarUp hai, pudagalakA kyA svarUp hai, usakA vichAr karake sUkShma dRuShTise use paDhanA.

vastu asal svarUpamen kaise kahI jAtI hai, usakI paryAyase kyA kahate hain, usakI pratyek apekShAen samajhakar yathArtha samajhanA. usakI laganI lagAnI. vastu dravya svabhAvase tU nirmal hai. usamen ashuddhatAne pravesh nahIn kiyA hai. to phir yah vibhAv kaisA? yah dukh kaisA? AkulatA kisakI hai? isaliye AtmAmen vibhAv pariNati ho rahI hai, apane puruShArthakI mandatAse aur svayam bhrAnti karake-yah sharIr so main, main so sharIr, yah vibhAv, rAg-dveSh Adise bhinna AtmAko jAnatA nahIn hai aur pratyek shubhAshubh vikalpake andar ekatva ho rahA hai. usase bhI is AtmAkA svarUp bhinna hai. parantu


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vah paryAyamen hai sahI. sarvathA ekAnta shuddha ho to-to puruShArtha karanA nahIn rahatA hai. paryAy apekShAse usamen ashuddhatA hai aur dravyadRuShTise usamen shuddhatA hai.

jaise sphaTik svabhAvase nirmal hai. mUl sphaTik svabhAvase nirmal hai. usamen lAl- pIle phUlake sanyogase vah lAl dikhA, pIlA dikhe parantu nimitta (kAraN hai). parantu vah pariNaman svayamkA ho rahA hai, vah pariNaman svayamkA hai. lekin svabhAvase nirmal hai. vah donon apekShAen samajhakar mUl asal svarUpako samajhanA. kAraN, jIvane anAdi kAlase vibhAvamen shubhabhAv bahut kiye, puNyabandha huA, devalokamen gayA, parantu nij svarUp pahachAnA nahIn. devalokamen bhI gayA. aise sakhta shubhabhAv kiye ki jisase (devalok milA), parantu AtmAko pahachAnA nahIn.

ananta kAlamen svayam dravyalingI muni banakar nav graiveyak upajAyo-graiveyakamen gayA. bAharase aisI sakhta kriyAen pAlI, jo kriyAen shAstramen AtI us anusAr (pAlan kiyA). abhI to vaisA dikhAyI nahIn detA. shAstramen AtA hai us anusAr pAlan kiyA. parantu shubhabhAvase puNyabandha huA. parantu in sabase bhinna main AtmA, use pahachAnA nahIn. isaliye AtmAko pahachAnanekA prayatna karanA. lekin bIchamen use (yah sab) AtA hai. jo shubhabhAv puNyabandhakA kAraN hai, isaliye vah bIchamen nahIn Ate hain, aisA nahIn hai. yadi shubhabhAv chhUTe to ashubhamen jAy, to pApabandhakA kAraN (hotA hai). parantu ashubhabhAvase bachaneke liye bIchamen shubhabhAv dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA Aye aur AtmAko pahachAnanekA... mUl vastu-AtmAkI ruchi honI chAhiye. ananta kAlase shubhabhAvamen aTak gayA hai. lekin usase bhinna AtmA hai, use pahachAnatA nahIn hai. lekin bIchamen shubhabhAv Aye binA nahIn rahate.

shuddhAtmA kaise pahachAnUn? usakA prayatna (karanA chAhiye). yah donon apekShAen samajhanI. dravya kis apekShAse hai aur paryAyamen kyA hotA hai? mUl asal svarUpase shuddhatA hai aur paryAyamen ashuddhatA hai. puna ekAnta shuddha hokar shuShkatA na A jAy, usakA dhyAn rakhanA. apanA hRuday bhIgA huA rahanA chAhiye ki ananta kAlase rakhaDA. is jIvako andar dukh kisakA hai? antaramen vibhAvase virakti-vairAgya AnA chAhiye. gnAn, use yathArtha samajhanekA rAstA aur samajhaneke liye yathArtha prayatna, usakA gnAn yathArtha kare, use vairAgya- virakti AnI chAhiye. usakI mahimA AnI chAhiye. chaitanya svarUp koI adabhut hai. usakI mahimA, usakI mahimA Aye aur dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA AnI chAhiye. usakI pahachAn karavAnevAle dev hain, guru hain, shAstra hai. sab usakI pahachAn karavAnevAle hain.

usamen sAkShAt chaitanyamUtii gurudevane jo mArga batAyA, jo sAdhanAkA mArga batAyA us par use apUrva mahimA Aye binA nahIn rahatI. apane svabhAvakI mahimA, dev-guru-shAstrakI


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mahimA (AnI chAhiye). jagatamen sab nisAr hai. ek AtmA sarvotkRuShTa hai, mahimAkA bhaNDAr hai. aur dUsarA, shubhabhAvommen dev-guru-shAstra hone chAhiye. jagatamen sarvotkRuShTa hon to jinendra dev hain. guru sarvotkRuShTa hain, jo sAdhanA karate hain aur shAstrommen usakA varNan AtA hai. isaliye jagatamen vah sab sarvotkRuShTa hai. isaliye yah karane jaisA hai, antaramen gnAyakako pahachAnakara. usakI pahachAn kaise ho? usake liye shAstra svAdhyAy, vichAr, vAnchan Adi sab (honA chAhiye). andarase hRuday bhIgA huA rakhanA. bhavakA abhAv kaise ho, yah antaramen honA chAhiye.

mumukShu- chaitanyakI mahimA baDhAneke liye kyA karanA?

samAdhAna- chaitanya kyA vastu hai? usamen kyA bharA hai? usake guN koI apUrva hain. gurudev usakI mahimA batAte the. pravachanommen kyA AtA hai? shAstrommen kyA AtA hai? vichAr karake nakkI kare. chaitanya padArtha jagatamen koI apUrva hai. jagatamen usake jaise koI vastu nahIn hai. usakA Ananda apUrva hai, usakA gnAn apUrva hai, sab apUrva hai.

jo kisI anya sAdhan binA antaramense jo gnAn pragaT hotA hai, jo ananta mahimAse bharA gnAyak-gnAn hai, usake svarUpako jagatakI koI mahimA lAgU nahIn paDatI. aisA anupam hai, use koI upamA lAgU nahIn paDatI. aisA anupam padArtha hai. shAstramen usakA bahut varNan AtA hai. usamense vichAr kare. AchArya kyA kahate hain? AchArya vastukI mahimA kar rahe hain, usakA vichAr kare. gurudev mahimA karate hain. tU AtmA hai, tU bhagavAn hai. use pahachAna. jo gurudev kahate the, vah antarase kahate the. isaliye antaramen vah koI apUrva padArtha hai.

mumukShu- pUjya gurudev bhI bArambAr kahate hain, tU sukhakA sAgar hai. AnandakI nidhi ho, atIndriy sukhakA bhaNDAr hai. to abhI sukhakI prAptike liye...?

samAdhAna- svayam prayatna kare to hotA hai. pahale shraddhA kare. yathArtha vastu to yahI hai. phir prayatna bhale dhIre-dhIre ho. parantu shraddhA to barAbar karanA. shraddhAmen thoDA bhI pharka mat karanA. shraddhAmen thoDA bhI pheraphAr mat karanA. shraddhA yathArtha karanA. to phir dhIre ho.. shAstramen AtA hai, ho sake to dhyAnamay pratikramaN karanA. na ban sake to shraddhA barAbar karanA. parantu usake liye koI Idhar-Udharake mArga par mat jAnA. dUsarI jagah kahIn mArga nahIn hai. mArga AtmAkA koI alag hai. andar samyagdarshan, svAnubhUti hotI hai tab samyagdarshan kahanemen AtA hai. nav tattvakI shraddhA mAtra vikalpase kar le, to vah samyagdarshan nahIn hai.

samyagdarshan andar AtmAmen pragaT hotA hai. aur samyagdarshan honeke bAd visheSh-visheSh AtmAmen jamatA jAy, Age baDhe tab munidashA AtI hai. antaramen munidashA koI alag


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hai. chhaThThe-sAtaven guNasthAnamen jhule. antarmuhUrta-antarmuhUrtamen AtmAmen lIn hote hain. bAhar Aye tab dravya-guN-paryAyake vichAr Aye. dUsarA sab to munirAjako chhUT gayA hai, sahajarUpase. unhen bojh nahIn lagatA hai, upAdhi nahIn lagatI hai. sahajarUpase. vah dashA koI alag hotI hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho! mAtAjInI amRut vANIno jay ho!
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