Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (iso15919 transliteration). Track: 243.

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સત્પુરુષકી પૂર્ણ આજ્ઞા માનની ચાહિયે, તો આજ્ઞા કિતની પ્રકારકી હોતી હૈ? કોઈ ભી પ્રકારકી અસાવધાની રહ જાતી હૈ તો ક્યા મુમુક્ષુ કલ્યાણકે યોગ્ય હૈ યા નહીં?    0   Play
satpuruṣakī pūrṇa ājñā mānanī cāhiye, to ājñā kitanī prakārakī hotī hai? koī bhī prakārakī asāvadhānī rah jātī hai to kyā mumukṣu kalyāṇake yogya hai yā nahīṁ?    0   Play

ક્યા ૪૭ શક્તિયાઁકી બારબાર સ્મરણ કરનેસે સ્વભાવકી મહિમા આતી હૈ?    2:45   Play
kyā 47 śaktiyān̐kī bārabār smaraṇ karanese svabhāvakī mahimā ātī hai?    2:45   Play

બધી અપેક્ષાનો મેળ કરી સમજવું તે વિષે....    5:45   Play
badhī apekṣāno meḷ karī samajavuṁ te viṣe....    5:45   Play

પર્યાયકો ગૌણ કરકે ભિન્ન કહી જાતી હૈ યા ક્યા વાસ્તવમેં ભિન્ન હોકર દૃષ્ટિકા વિષય બનતી હૈ?    7:55   Play
paryāyako gauṇ karake bhinna kahī jātī hai yā kyā vāstavameṁ bhinna hokar dr̥ṣṭikā viṣay banatī hai?    7:55   Play

પૂજ્ય ગુરુદેવશ્રીને ફરમાયા કિ સમ્યગ્દર્શનકે વિષયમેં સમ્યગ્દર્શનકી પર્યાય નહીં હૈ?    9:15   Play
pūjya gurudevaśrīne faramāyā ki samyagdarśanake viṣayameṁ samyagdarśanakī paryāy nahīṁ hai?    9:15   Play

કરને લાયક તો સબ આત્મામેં હૈ, બાહરમેં કુછ નહીં હૈ ઉસ સમ્બન્ધી    10:35   Play
karane lāyak to sab ātmāmeṁ hai, bāharameṁ kuch nahīṁ hai us sambandhī    10:35   Play

ક્રમબદ્ધપર્યાય સમ્બન્ધી...    11:50   Play
kramabaddhaparyāy sambandhī...    11:50   Play

માતાજી પર્યાયમેં અલ્પજ્ઞતા હૈ તો દ્રવ્ય સ્વભાવમેં વિશ્ચાસ કૈસે આવે?    13:05   Play
mātājī paryāyameṁ alpajñatā hai to dravya svabhāvameṁ viścās kaise āve?    13:05   Play

હમેં ઇન્દ્રિયજ્ઞાન તો હૈ અતીન્દ્રિય કૈસે હોવે?    14:00   Play
hameṁ indriyajñān to hai atīndriy kaise hove?    14:00   Play

પૂજ્ય ગુરુદેવશ્રી કહતે થે કિ ઇન્દ્રિયજ્ઞાન પરકો જાનતા નહીં હૈ?    15:15   Play
pūjya gurudevaśrī kahate the ki indriyajñān parako jānatā nahīṁ hai?    15:15   Play

પૂજ્ય માતાજી! આબાલ-ગોપાલ સભીકો ભગવાન આત્મા જાનનેમેં આ રહા હૈ થોડાસા સ્પષ્ટ કરેં?    16:25   Play
pūjya mātājī! ābāl-gopāl sabhīko bhagavān ātmā jānanemeṁ ā rahā hai thoḍāsā spaṣṭa kareṁ?    16:25   Play

mumukṣuḥ- ... satpuruṣakī sab ājñā mānanā cāhiye. to ājñā kitanī-kitanī prakārakī hotī hai? kyoṁki ve kahate haiṁ ki koī prakārakī bhī apātratā rah jātī hai to mumukṣu kalyāṇake yogya nahīṁ hotā hai.

samādhānaḥ- kitane prakārakī ājñā kyā? satpuruṣakī ājñā to apanī pātratā dekhakar ājñā karate haiṁ. ājñā kitane prakārakī hotī hai? .. jñānīkā āśay grahaṇ karanā cāhiye. jñānī kahate haiṁ, kyā kahate haiṁ? āśay grahaṇ karake apanī pariṇati pragaṭ karanā cāhiye. anek jātameṁ kahān̐-kahān̐ jīv ruk jātā hai. svacchanda, matāgrah, apanī mānī huyī kalpanāoṁmeṁ (aṭak jātā hai). satpuruṣakā āśaya3 kyā hai, vah āśay grahaṇ karake vastukā svarūp samajhanā cāhiye. yathārtha samajhakarake kyā karanā cāhiye usakā āśay grahaṇ karanā cāhiye. ve kyā kahate haiṁ?

svayaṁ nirṇay kare use satpuruṣake āśayake sāth milān karanā. jñānīkā kyā āśay hai? maiṁ kyā mānatā hūn̐? āśay yathārthapane jo nirṇay karatā hai, usake sāth milān karatā hai. kyā kahate haiṁ, yah samajhanā cāhiye. us prakār apanī pariṇati pragaṭ karanī cāhiye. ve kahate haiṁ, us prakār-se. ... grahaṇ karake apanī pariṇati pragaṭ karanā cāhiye. puruṣārtha karanā cāhiye. puruṣārthakī mandatā hove to jñānī jo kahate haiṁ us par pratīt karanī cāhiye. aur bhāvanā rakhanī cāhiye ki maiṁ kaise āge jāūn̐? aisā puruṣārtha karanā cāhiye.

apane matamāṁ kahīṁ na kahīṁ aṭak jātā hai. jñānīkā āśay kyā hai? dev-śāstra- guru kyā kahate haiṁ? use grahaṇ karake us anusār apanī pariṇatiko, apane puruṣārthako us anusār cālū kare to yathārtha mārga use pragaṭ hotā hai. usakā āśay grahaṇ karanā cāhiye. cāroṁ taraph-se jñānī kyā kahate haiṁ? unakā āśay kyā hai? use grahaṇ karake apanī pariṇati kar lenī cāhiye.

... vah jñānīkā āśay grahaṇ kar letā hai. dev-guru-śāstra kyā kahate haiṁ, vah grahaṇ kar sakatā hai. usakī pātratā aisī hotī hai. yadi pātratā nahīṁ hove to apanī mati kalpanā-se ruk jātā hai.

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mumukṣuḥ- 47 śaktioṁkā smaraṇ karate haiṁ. apane svabhāvakī mahimā lāneke liye kyā bāraṁbār śaktiyoṁkā smaraṇ karanā cāhiye? usase svabhāvakī mahimā...

samādhānaḥ- ... smaraṇ karatā hai... mumukṣuko kyā karanā? jñānī kyā kahate haiṁ, usakā āśay grahaṇ karanā cāhiye. ve aisā karate the, isaliye hameṁ bhī aisā karanā cāhiye, aisā artha nahīṁ hai. śaktiyoṁko grahaṇ karanemeṁ to usakā lābh hai, koī nukasān nahīṁ hai. 47 śaktikā smaraṇ karake usakā abhyās kare to ātma svarūpakī mahimā ātī hai. aisā karanemeṁ kuch (dikkat nahīṁ hai), kar sakatā hai. usameṁ koī aisā nahīṁ hotā.

gurudev aisā karate the, isaliye aisā karanā, aisā kuch nahīṁ hai. jisako jo ruce so karanā. koī jñāyak-jñāyak karatā hai, to bhedajñān karanekā abhyās karanā. usake sāth śāstrameṁ kyā (kahā hai)? svayaṁko śaṁkā ho to niḥśaṁk honeke liye koī tattva vicār svayaṁko jo ruce so karanā. gurudev aisā karate the isaliye aisā karanā, usakā koī artha nahīṁ hai. svayaṁko yadi usameṁ mahimā ātī hai to vah karanā. usameṁ to lābh hai. apaneko lābh lage to vah karanā. mujhe kisameṁ ras ātā hai, us anusār karanā.

mujhe kyā smaraṇ karanā? mujhe jñāyakakā abhyās karaneke liye kisakā smaraṇ karanā? caitanyakī śaktiyān̐ vicāranī. 47 śaktiyān̐ vicāranī, jñāyakakā vicār karanā, usakā satya svarūp kyā? śāstra anek prakār kyā āte haiṁ? svayaṁko jahān̐ ruci ho vah karanā.

gurudev to mahāpuruṣ thā. unakī pariṇatimeṁ jo unheṁ lagatā thā vah karate the, isaliye dūsaroṁko aise hī karanā, aisā usakā artha nahīṁ hai. unakā śrutajñān to apūrva thā. unheṁ to śrutakī dhārā apūrva thī. anek jātakī unheṁ śrutakī labdhiyān̐ pragaṭ huyī thī. unheṁ usameṁ ras ātā thā to aisā karate the. isaliye sabako aisā karanā aisā usakā artha nahīṁ hai. ve to aisā vicār karate the, bākī to anek jātakā ciṁtavan unheṁ calatā thā. vah ek hī ciṁtavan thā, aisā nahīṁ hai. unheṁ to anek jātakā (ciṁtavan calatā thā). unhoṁne to śāstroṁke śāstra khol diye. śāstroṁkā rahasya khol diyā. unheṁ to andar śāstroṁkā samudra khulā thā.

usameṁ-se ve bāraṁbār usakā smaraṇ karate the. unheṁ usameṁ ras ātā thā. unheṁ andar śāstrameṁ-se ānanda ātā thā. ek 47 śaktiyāen̐ke liye nahīṁ, kitanī gāthāoṁkā unheṁ ānanda ātā thā.

mumukṣuḥ- bahut gāthāmeṁ kahate the, yah gāthā to apūrva hai, yah gāthā to apūrva hai.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, unheṁ to bahut gāthāoṁkā ānanda ātā thā.

mumukṣuḥ- bahut apekṣāen̐ ātī haiṁ, ... buddhi to thoḍī hai, apekṣāen̐ bahut haiṁ,

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usake liye kyā upāy hai?

samādhānaḥ- apekṣāen̐ bahut haiṁ. mūl dravyadr̥ṣṭikā prayojan, muktikā mārga jisase sadhe vah grahaṇ karanā. dravya-paryāyakā, niścay-vyavahārakā sambandha kaise hai, vah vicāranā. maiṁ śāśvat anādiananta dravya hūn̐, usameṁ paryāyakī sādhanā kaise hove? paryāy adhūrī hai, dravya pūrṇa hai, usakā mel kaise hove? yah sab sandha karake, śāstrameṁ bahut apekṣāen̐ ātī hai, un sab apekṣāoṁkā sambandha karake ātmāmeṁ jaise lābh ho, vaisā karanā. dravyānuyogameṁ bahut ātā hai. usako yathārtha samajh lenā cāhiye.

anādi-se bhram ho rahā hai, ekatvabuddhi-paryāyameṁ dr̥ṣṭi hai. dravya anādiananta śāśvat śuddha hai, usameṁ paryāyakī aśuddhatā kaise hai? usakī sādhanā kaise hove? sādhya pūrṇakā lakṣya karake aur paryāyakī sādhanā-śuddhātmāmeṁ śuddha paryāy pragaṭ hotī hai. samyagdarśan hove to turanta kevalajñān nahīṁ hotā hai. bīcameṁ sādhakadaśā rahatī hai. to dravyadr̥ṣṭi pragaṭ karake svānubhūti aur samyagdarśan pragaṭ hove to bhī līnatā bākī rahatī hai. kevalajñān (hone tak). sādhak aur sādhyakā kaise mel hai? yah sab samajhakar sab apekṣā samajhanī cāhiye. dravya-guṇ-paryāyakī sab apekṣā samajhakar, mukhya mukti mārga kaise hai vah grahaṇ karanā cāhiye.

dravyadr̥ṣṭike prayojanake sāth niścay-vyavahārakā sambandha kaise hai, yah samajhakar sab samajhanā cāhiye. dravyadr̥ṣṭi mukhya rakhakar usameṁ paryāy bhī aśuddha hai, kaise svānubhūti hove? usakī pūrṇatā hove, usakī līnatā hove, yah kevalajñān tak aisā sab mel karake sab samajhanā cāhiye.

mumukṣuḥ- paryāy gauṇ karake bhinna kahī jātī hai yā vāstavameṁ vah bhinna hokarake dr̥ṣṭike viṣayako viṣay banātī hai?

samādhānaḥ- vāstavik bhinna nahīṁ hai. dravyadr̥ṣṭi mukhya hotī hai to usameṁ paryāy gauṇ ho jātī hai. vah (-paryāy) aṁś hai, vah (-dravya) aṁśī hai. akhaṇḍa dravya par dr̥ṣṭi jāne-se paryāyakā lakṣya gauṇ ho jātā hai. dravya aur paryāy bilakūl bhinna hove to paryāy dravya ho jātī hai. paryāy aise nahīṁ hotī hai ki dravyakā koī āśray nahīṁ hai paryāyako aur paryāy nirādhār hai, aisā to nahīṁ hai.

paryāy ek aṁś hai isaliye svataṁtra hai. parantu vah aṁś aṁśīkā aṁś hai. isaliye usako gauṇ rakhakarake samajhanā cāhiye.

mumukṣuḥ- gauṇ rakhe? samādhanaḥ- gauṇ rakhe. dr̥ṣṭike jorameṁ dravya mukhya hai to paryāy gauṇ hai. paryāy aur dravya vaise svataṁtra nahīṁ hai. vah aṁśarūp-se svataṁtra hai. paryāyako dravyakā āśray

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rahatā hai. kaise svataṁtra hai, yah apekṣā samajhanī cāhie.

mumukṣuḥ- ... pharamāyā ki samyagdarśanake viṣayameṁ samyagdarśanakī paryāy nahīṁ hai.

samādhānaḥ- samyagdarśan paryāy viṣayameṁ nahīṁ hai?

mumukṣuḥ- hān̐, viṣayameṁ.

samādhānaḥ- samyagdarśanakā viṣay nahīṁ hai, parantu usameṁ gauṇ rah jātī hai. viṣay to dravya hai. viṣay dravya hai. paryāyako viṣay nahīṁ karatī, dr̥ṣṭi viṣay nahīṁ karatī hai. jñānameṁ gauṇapane rah jātā hai.

mumukṣuḥ- jñānameṁ rahatā hai, gauṇapane.

samādhānaḥ- jñānameṁ rahatā hai. dr̥ṣṭi aur jñān donoṁ sāthameṁ rahate haiṁ. dr̥ṣṭi alag aur jñān alag (aisā nahīṁ). dr̥ṣṭi samyak huyī usake sāth jñān bhī rahatā hai. dr̥ṣṭi aur jñān sāthameṁ rahate haiṁ, jñānameṁ vah paryāy gauṇ rahatī hai. dr̥ṣṭikā viṣay dravya hai to bhī dr̥ṣṭi aur jñān donoṁ bhinna-bhinna nahīṁ hai. dr̥ṣṭike sāth jo jñān rahatā hai to jñānameṁ vah paryāy khyālameṁ rahatī hai. viṣay bhale dravya hove, to bhī paryāy rahatī hai. paryāyakā jñān usake sāth rahatā hai. jñān, dravya aur paryāy donoṁko jānatā hai. jñānameṁ dravya aur paryāy donoṁ sāthameṁ rahate haiṁ.

samādhānaḥ- ... sab karane lāyak sarvasva ho to ātmāmeṁ sab kuch hai. bāharameṁ kuch hai nahīṁ. bāharameṁ to ekatvabuddhi, abhyās bāharakā hai isaliye bhītarameṁ jātā nahīṁ hai. to puruṣārtha apane karanā paḍatā hai. puruṣārtha kare, puruṣārtha karane-se hotā hai. apanā pramād hai, kisīkā doṣ nahīṁ hai. gurudevane to bahut batāyā hai, karanā to apaneko paḍatā hai.

maiṁ jñāyak hūn̐, bākī sab vibhāv hai. vibhāvameṁ sukh nahīṁ hai, sukh ātmāmeṁ hai. ye sab ākulatārūp hai-duḥkharūp hai. aisī pratīt, dr̥ḍhatāpūrvak pratīt karanī cāhiye. pratīt kare aur puruṣārtha kare to hotā hai. bāraṁbār-bāraṁbār usakā abhyās karanā paḍatā hai. ek daphe kare aisā nahīṁ, bāraṁbār (kare).

gurudevane jo batāyā hai, jo śāstrameṁ āyā hai. puruṣārtha to koī rokatā nahīṁ hai. karma rokate nahīṁ hai, koī padārtha rokate nahīṁ, apane kāraṇ-se ruk jātā hai. bāharameṁ ruci hai. svarūpameṁ ruci karanī cāhiye.

mumukṣuḥ- kuch log kahate haiṁ ki kramabaddhaparyāyake bahāne, jo honā hai vahī hogā. puruṣārtha to ham bahut karate haiṁ, lekin nahīṁ hotā hai to kramabaddhaparyāyameṁ nahīṁ hai. hone yogya nahīṁ hai to kaise hogā? usakā kyā kiyā jāy? usakā samādhān kyā hai?

samādhānaḥ- kramabaddha aise kramabaddha nahīṁ hotā hai. kramabaddha to, puruṣārthake sāth

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kramabaddha hotā hai. gurudev kahate haiṁ ki jñāyak taraph dr̥ṣṭi karo. jñāyakako jisane samajhā, usane kramabaddhako samajhā. jo jñāyak nahīṁ samajhatā hai, usako kramabaddha bhī samajhameṁ nahīṁ āyā hai. kramabaddhake sāth puruṣārthakā sambandha hai. puruṣārtha binā kramabaddha nahīṁ hai. jisake lakṣyameṁ puruṣārtha nahīṁ hai, usakā kramabaddha yathārtha nahīṁ hotā. vah to saṁsārakā kramabaddha hai.

jise puruṣārthakī dr̥ṣṭi hotī hai, usakā kramabaddha mokṣake taraph jātā hai. puruṣārthake sāth kramabaddhako sambandha hai. aise kāl, svabhāv ādi, pān̐c labdhiyān̐ sāthameṁ hotī hai tab apanā kārya hotā hai. kramabaddha akelā samajhane-se nahīṁ hotā, puruṣārtha pūrvak kramabaddha samajhanā.

mumukṣuḥ- mātājī! jab paryāyameṁ alpajñatā hai to sarvajña svabhāvakā viśvās kaise āyegā?

samādhānaḥ- paryāyameṁ alpajñatā bhale hove. apanā svabhāv sarvajña hai. paryāy alpajña hove to bhī viśvās ho sakatā hai. sarvajñakī pariṇati pragaṭ karanemeṁ to der lagatī hai. sarvajñakī pratīt to ho sakatī hai. pratīt honemeṁ alpajña paryāy usameṁ rokatī nahīṁ hai. sarvajñakī pratīt to ho sakatī hai ki maiṁ sarvajña hū̃n. aisī pratīti ho sakatī hai. maiṁ jñāyak, saṁpūrṇa jñāyak hū̃n. maiṁ sarvajña śakti-se sarvajña hū̃n. pragaṭ nahīṁ huā, parantu aisī pratīt ho sakatī hai.

mumukṣuḥ- svānubhūtike liye hamako indriyajñān bādhak lagatā hai. indriy jñān .. to anubhūti hogī.

samādhānaḥ- apane karane-se hotā hai, indriyakā jñān rokatā nahīṁ hai. atīndriy jñān pragaṭ karanemeṁ apanī ruci badal denī. svarūp taraph ruci kare, usameṁ līnatā kare, pratīt kare. jisakā svabhāv maiṁ jñāyak hūn̐, jñānamātra svabhāv hai utanā maiṁ hū̃n. usameṁ viśvās karake usameṁ sthir ho jāy, līnatā kare to atīndriy jñān pragaṭ hotā hai. indriy jñān usameṁ rokanevālā nahīṁ hai. bhītarameṁ-se pragaṭ karanā apane hāthakī bāt hai. koī indriyajñān usameṁ rokatā nahīṁ hai. indriyajñān hove isaliye atīndriy nahīṁ hotā hai, aisā nahīṁ hai.

bhītarameṁ-se pragaṭ karanā svayaṁsiddha apanā svabhāv hai. apaneāp, apāriṇāmik dravya apaneāp pragaṭ kar sakatā hai. dev-guru-śāstra usakā nimitta hotā hai. upādān apanā hai. jo jinendra devane batāyā, jo gurudevane batāyā, jo śāstrameṁ hotā hai, sab apane karanā paḍatā hai. atīndriy jñān pragaṭ kare, usameṁ svānubhūti pragaṭ karanā apane hāthakī bāt hai. koī kar nahīṁ detā hai. usameṁ koī rokatā nahīṁ hai. indriy jñān usameṁ rukāvaṭ nahīṁ karatā hai.

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mumukṣuḥ- gurudev kahate the ki jñān parako jānatā hī nahīṁ hai. to ham kareṁ kyā?

samādhānaḥ- gurudev aisā nahīṁ kahate the, parako nahīṁ jānatā hai aisā nahīṁ kahate the. gurudev kahate the, svaparaprakāśak jñān hai. śāstrameṁ aisā ātā hai. svaparaprakāśak jñānakā svabhāv hai. par taraph terī ekatvabuddhi hai. parameṁ upayog lagatā hai to parako maiṁ jānatā hūn̐, svako bhūl gayā hai. svakā jñān pragaṭ kara. parako tū jānatā nahīṁ hai aisā nahīṁ hai. svaparaprakāśak jñānakā svabhāv hai. jānanekā haṭānā nahīṁ hai, apanī ruci badalanī hai. upayog palaṭ de. upayog sva taraph kar le. maiṁ jñāyak svabhāv hū̃n. usameṁ jo sahaj svabhāv svaparaprakāśak hai, kevalajñānameṁ svaparaprakāśak svabhāv pragaṭ hotā hai.

upayog bāhar jñeyameṁ lag jātā hai, jñey upayukta (hotā hai), jñeyameṁ ekamek ho jātā hai. jñeyameṁ ekamek nahīṁ honā. bhedajñān karake apane svarūpameṁ līn honā. to apanā svaparaprakāśak jñān pragaṭ hotā hai.

mumukṣuḥ- pūjya mātājī! ābālagopāl sabhīko bhagavān ātmā jānanemeṁ ā rahā hai. thoḍā-sā spaṣṭi kijīye.

samādhānaḥ- ābālagopālako jānanemeṁ ā rahā hai usakā artha aisā nahīṁ hai ki jānanemeṁ ā rahā hai isaliye usakī anubhūti ho rahī hai, usakī svānubhūti ho rahī hai (aisā nahīṁ hai). anubhūti aisī ho rahī hai ki svayaṁsiddha ātmā hai. usakā asādhāraṇ jñānasvabhāv hai. vah jñānasvabhāv apane svabhāvarūpase pariṇamatā hai, vibhāvarūp nahīṁ huā hai. dravyadr̥ṣṭi-se svabhāvarūp pariṇamatā hai. ābālagopāl sab jñānameṁ jān sakate haiṁ. usakā artha aisā nahīṁ hai ki usakī anubhūti arthāt samyakajñān ho gayā, aisā usakā artha nahīṁ hai.

jñānasvabhāv sabako lakṣyameṁ ā sakatā hai. asādhāraṇ jñānasvabhāv hai. sab jān sakate haiaiṁ ki maiṁ jñānasvabhāv ātmā hū̃n. ye jaḍ kuch jānate nahīṁ. maiṁ jānanevālā hūn̐, aisī pratīt sab ābālagopāl kar sakate haiṁ. maiṁ jānanevālā hūn̐, ye jaḍ nahīṁ jānatā hai, maiṁ jānanevālā hū̃n. apane svabhāvarūp jñānasvabhāv anādiananta hai. vah jñān jaḍ nahīṁ huā. vah jñānasvabhāv ābālagopāl sab jān sakate haiṁ. jñānakī anubhūti hotī hai. yathārtha svabhāvameṁ līn hokar svānubhūti ho rahī hai, aisā artha nahīṁ hai. anubhūti arthāt jñān sabako hai. aisā asādhāraṇ jñānasvabhāv sabako jānanemeṁ ātā hai. usakā artha aisā hai. jaḍ nahīṁ hai. jñānasvabhāv sabako anubhavameṁ ā rahā hai, aisā jñānasvabhāv anubhavameṁ ā rahā hai. samyakarūp-se (ā rahā hai), aisā nahīṁ. usakā lakṣaṇ, jo lakṣaṇ hai vah ābālagopāl sab jān sakate haiṁ. aisā usakā jñānasvabhāv hai.

praśamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho!

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