Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (iso15919 transliteration). Track: 273.

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પૂજ્ય ગુરુદેવશ્રીથી લાભ થયો તેમ લાગે છે તો શું તેમનાથી એકત્વ થઈ ગયું?    0   Play
pūjya gurudevaśrīthī lābh thayo tem lāge che to śuṁ temanāthī ekatva thaī gayuṁ?    0   Play

આપે કહ્યું કે પર્યાય વચમાં આવે છે એટલે શું?    5:45   Play
āpe kahyuṁ ke paryāy vacamāṁ āve che eṭale śuṁ?    5:45   Play

મહાવિદેહક્ષેત્ર વિષે.....    7:45   Play
mahāvidehakṣetra viṣe.....    7:45   Play

ઊંડી જિજ્ઞાસા કેવા પ્રકારની હશે?    10:40   Play
ūṁḍī jijñāsā kevā prakāranī haśe?    10:40   Play

પ્રતીતિને શ્રદ્ધા પણ કહેવાય અને તેને જ્ઞાનની દ્રઢતા કહેવાય?    15:30   Play
pratītine śraddhā paṇ kahevāy ane tene jñānanī draḍhatā kahevāy?    15:30   Play

મુનિરાજને ત્રણ કષાયની ચોકડીના અભાવપૂર્વકની શુદ્ધતા હોય છે અને થોડી અશુદ્ધતા પણ હોય છે તો તેમાં ચારિત્રગુણમાં શું શુદ્ધતા અને અશુદ્ધતા બંને સાથે હોય છે?    18:10   Play
munirājane traṇ kaṣāyanī cokaḍīnā abhāvapūrvakanī śuddhatā hoy che ane thoḍī aśuddhatā paṇ hoy che to temāṁ cāritraguṇamāṁ śuṁ śuddhatā ane aśuddhatā baṁne sāthe hoy che?    18:10   Play

જ્ઞાન તે આત્મા, તેવો ભેદ પડયો તેને૧૧મી ગાથા પ્રમાણે સદ્ભુત વ્યવહાર કહ્યો છે એટલે પરદ્રવ્ય થયું એટલે જ્ઞાનની પર્યાયમાં શું આપણો આત્મા પરદ્રવ્ય તરીકે જણાય છે?    19:00   Play
jñān te ātmā, tevo bhed paḍayo tene11mī gāthā pramāṇe sadbhut vyavahār kahyo che eṭale paradravya thayuṁ eṭale jñānanī paryāyamāṁ śuṁ āpaṇo ātmā paradravya tarīke jaṇāy che?    19:00   Play

samādhānaḥ- gurudev to anek prakār-se sab spaṣṭa karake kahate the. muktikā mārga gurudevane koī apūrva rīt-se sabako samajhāyā hai aur unakī vāṇī apūrva thī. kitanoṁ jīvoṁko taiyār kar diye haiṁ.

mumukṣuḥ- gurudev-se lābh huā to phir ekatva ho gayā.

samādhānaḥ- gurudev-se lābh huā usameṁ ekatva nahīṁ hotā hai. ekatva pariṇati ekatva dr̥ṣṭi ho to hotā hai, aise ekatva nahīṁ hotā hai. bhedajñānapūrvakakī pariṇati ho vahān̐ ekatva hotā hī nahīṁ. ekatvabuddhi ho vahān̐ ekatva hotā hai. gurudev-se lābh huā aisā māne isaliye usakī ekatva pariṇati nahīṁ hai. vah bole aisā aur vah kahe bhī aisā ki gurudev-se lābh huā, gurudev āp-se lābh huā, āpane hī sab kiyā, āp-se hī sab prāpta kiyā hai, aisā kahe.

mumukṣuḥ- śabda ek hī hoṁ, phir bhī dr̥ṣṭimeṁ pharka hone-se abhiprāyameṁ pharka hai.

samādhānaḥ- dr̥ṣṭimeṁ pharka hone-se pūrā pharka hai. ekatvabuddhi-se kahe aur bhedajñān- se kahe usameṁ pharka hai.

mumukṣuḥ- ekatvabuddhivāle-se bhī jyādā vinay kare.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, jyādā vinay kare, jyādā vinay kare.

mumukṣuḥ- bhāṣāmeṁ to ananta tīrthaṁkaroṁ-se adhik hai, aisā kahe.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, āpane yahān̐ janma nahīṁ dhāraṇ kiyā hotā to ham jaisoṁkā kyā hotā? aisā kahe. jyādā vinay kare. kyoṁki aṁtarameṁ svayaṁko jo svabhāv pragaṭ huā hai, us svabhāvakī use itanī mahimā hai ki jo svabhāv jisane pragaṭ kiyā aur samajhāyā, us par use mahimā ātī hai. aṁtarameṁ jo śubhabhāv vartatā hai, usake sāth bhedajñān vartatā hai aur śubh bhāvanāmeṁ jo ātā hai, usameṁ use uchālā ātā hai ki merī pariṇati pragaṭ karanemeṁ gurudevane aisā upadeś dekar jo gurudev maujūd the, un par use uchālā ātā hai. ataḥ dūsare-se jyādā utsāh ākar bhakti ātī hai. usakā aisā dikhe ki dūsare-se kitanī (bhakti hai). bāhar-se aisā lage mānoṁ ekatvabuddhi-se karatā ho aisā dikhe. parantu śubhabhāvanāmeṁ use bhedajñān vartatā hai, us śubhabhāvoṁ-se aur śubhabhāvameṁ jo

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use uchālā ātā hai, vah alag prakārakā ātā hai.

mumukṣuḥ- kitanā vicitra lage. andar usī bhāv-se bhedajñān karatā hai.

samādhānaḥ- andar usī bhāv-se bhedajñān hai aur us bhāvameṁ uchālā aisā hai ki mānoṁ gurudevane hī sab kar diyā, aisā bole. aur aisī bhāvanā use hotī hai. jūṭh nahīṁ bolate haiṁ, bhāv ātā hai. usake sāth bhedajñān hai aur uchālā aisā ātā hai.

mumukṣuḥ- donoṁ ekasāth hai.

samādhānaḥ- donoṁ ekasāth hai. bhinnatā hone par bhī uchālā aisā ātā hai, mānoṁ dūsare-se usakī bhakti jyādā ho. isaliye śāstroṁmeṁ ātā hai na ki us śubhabhāvanāmeṁ usakī sthiti kam paḍatī hai, ras jyādā hotā hai.

mumukṣuḥ- jñānīko sab maṁjūrī dī gayī hai. ajñānī vahī śabda bole to kahe terī ekatābuddhi hai.

mumukṣuḥ- muphta hai? bhedajñān calatā hai.

mumukṣuḥ- phāvābhāī kahate the ki āp samyagdr̥ṣṭikā pakṣa karate ho.

samādhānaḥ- ekatvabuddhi hai use kahate haiṁ.

mumukṣuḥ- bhakti aur bhedajñān donoṁkā mel hotā hai, aisā hai?

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, donoṁkā mel hai. bhedajñānake sāth bhaktikā mel hai. aur svabhāvakī mahimā jahān̐ āyī hai, svabhāvakī pariṇati (huyī hai), śāśvat ātmā, usakī svānubhūti, usakī mahimā āyī. vah pūrā andar sthir nahīṁ ho sakatā hai, isaliye bāhar jo śubhabhāvanā āye, us bhāvameṁ usake sāmane jo jinendra dev, guru aur śāstra, jo sādhak aur pūrṇa ho gaye, un par (bhāv ātā hai ki) aho! aisī pūrṇatā, aisī sādhak daśāko dekhakar use ekadam ullās aur uchālā ātā hai. aur jinhoṁne upadeś diyā aur upakār kiyā, un par ekadam uchālā ātā hai. bhedajñān aur bhakti donoṁ sāthameṁ hote haiṁ.

mumukṣuḥ- do viṣay kahe-ek to pūrṇatā dekhī aur ek to jinhoṁne upakār kiyā. un donoṁ par uchālā ātā hai.

samādhānaḥ- donoṁ par uchālā ātā hai. sādhak daśā, upakār kiyā, upadeś diyā aur pūrṇatā, un sab para. aur śāstra jo sab darśāte haiṁ, un sab par uchālā ātā hai. jitane sādhakake aur pūrṇatāke bāhar jitane sādhan ho, un sab par use ullās ātā hai. phir bhī usī kṣaṇ bhedajñān vartatā hai. donoṁ pariṇati bhinna-bhinna kām karatī hai. jñāyakakī aur śubhabhāv donoṁ pariṇati.

mumukṣuḥ- pahale praśnake javābameṁ āpane aisā kahā ki paryāy bīcameṁ ātī hai.

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bīcameṁ ātī hai usakā artha kyā? pragaṭ paryāyako jñānameṁ jānatā hai aur us par- se jñāyakako grahaṇ karatā hai, aisā āpako kahanā hai? paryāy bīcameṁ ātī hai māne kyā?

samādhānaḥ- bīcameṁ paryāy dravyako grahaṇ karatī hai. dravyako grahaṇ karanemeṁ paryāy sāthameṁ hotī hai. sīdhā dravya grahaṇ nahīṁ hotā. grahaṇ karanemeṁ paryāy sāthameṁ hotī hai.

mumukṣuḥ- dravyako grahaṇ karanemeṁ paryāy sāthameṁ hotī hai.

samādhānaḥ- paryāy sāthameṁ hotī hai.

mumukṣuḥ- aur paryāy grahaṇ karatī hai.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, paryāy dravyako grahaṇ karatī hai. dravyako grahaṇ kare arthāt vah samyak paryāy pragaṭ huyī. paryāy hotī hai. to hī usane dravyako grahaṇ kiyā kahā jāya. yadi use samyak paryāy pragaṭ ho to.

anādi-se dravya to hai, parantu usane grahaṇ nahīṁ kiyā hai. svayaṁ us rūp pragaṭarūp- se pariṇamā nahīṁ hai. dravya to anādi-se svabhāvarūp hai, parantu usane us rūp pariṇati pragaṭ nahīṁ kī hai. isaliye paryāy use grahaṇ karatī hai aur paryāy us rūp pragaṭarūp- se pariṇamatī hai. isaliye paryāy sāthameṁ hotī hai. paryāy usake sāth pragaṭ hotī hai, samyak rūp-se.

mumukṣuḥ- paryāy samyak rūp-se sāthameṁ pragaṭ hotī hai, isaliye paryāy bīcameṁ hotī hai.

samādhānaḥ- paryāy bīcameṁ hotī hai.

samādhānaḥ- .. pratyek vijayameṁ tīrthaṁkar bhagavān virājate haiṁ, acche kālameṁ. vartamānameṁ vīs viharamān bhagavān virājate haiṁ. jab cāroṁ or tīrthaṁkar hote haiṁ, jitane vijay hai, videhakṣetrake 32 vijay haiṁ. sabameṁ ek-ek vijayameṁ tīrthaṁkar bhagavān virājate haiṁ. utane tīrthaṁkar virājate haiṁ.

mumukṣuḥ- ... lākhoṁ, usakī saṁkhyākā to pār nahīṁ hai.

samādhānaḥ- vah to saṁkhyātīt hai. acche kālameṁ to kevalajñānīkā samūh, munioṁkā samūh (hotā hai). vartamānameṁ mahāvideh kṣetrameṁ bhagavān virājate haiṁ. kevalajñānīkā samūh, munioṁkā samūh, sab samūh hai. videhakṣetrameṁ to caturtha kāl vartatā hai. śrāvak, śrāvikāen̐, samyagdr̥ṣṭi anek hote haiṁ. yahān̐ to bhāvaliṁgī muni dikhanā muśkil hai. samyagdr̥ṣṭikī bhī durlabhatā hai. is bharatakṣetrameṁ to aisā paṁcamakālameṁ ho gayā hai.

mumukṣuḥ- airāvatameṁ bhī lagabhag aisā hī hogā?

samādhānaḥ- airāvatameṁ bhī aisā hī hai. jaisā bharatameṁ, vaisā airāvatameṁ. donoṁ āmanesāmane hai. sadā caturtha kāl, mokṣa aur kevalajñān sadā rahatā hai. bhāvaliṁgī muni, sab jñān caturtha kālameṁ mahāvideh kṣetrameṁ sab hai. vahān̐ kitanā hai aur yahān̐ usameṁ-se kuch bhī

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nahīṁ hai, thoḍā rahā hai. aisā hai.

mumukṣuḥ- kalpanā karanī bhī muśkil paḍe aisā ho gayā hai.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, thoḍā rahā hai. ye to gurudevake pratāp-se itanā pracār ho gayā. aur sabako aisā ho gayā ki aṁtarameṁ kuch alag karanā hai, aisī sabakī dr̥ṣṭi huyī ki karanā aṁtarameṁ hai. cāroṁ or hindustānameṁ itanā pracār ho gayā. nahīṁ to ekadam (kṣīṇ) ho gayā thā. bāhya kriyāmeṁ dharma manāte the. ...

samādhānaḥ- .. prayatna aur bhāvanā to rahate hī haiṁ, aṁtarameṁ jabatak nahīṁ ho tabataka.

mumukṣuḥ- bahut bār vicār ātā hai ki gaharī jijñāsā, āp kahate ho, gaharī jijñāsā cāhiye. to gaharī jijñāsā kis prakārakī hogī? vaisī gaharī jijñāsā apanemeṁ kyoṁ pragaṭ nahīṁ hotī hai?

samādhānaḥ- (usake binā) use cain paḍe nahīṁ. aṁtarameṁ usakī pariṇati vahān̐ jākar hī chūṭakārā ho, aisī aṁtarameṁ-se ugra pariṇati pragaṭ ho to ho.

mumukṣuḥ- vah niraṁtar akhaṇḍa rahanī cāhiye.

samādhānaḥ- niraṁtar akhaṇḍa rahe to pragaṭ hotā hai. ek aṁtarmuhūrtameṁ kisīko pragaṭ ho vah bāt alag hai. bākī abhyās karate-karate bahubhāg hotā hai.

mumukṣuḥ- jitanī gaharāīmeṁ jāye, usakā gaharā bhāv grahaṇ hokar pariṇaman ho jānā cāhiye, usameṁ abhī bahut der lagatī hai.

samādhānaḥ- jitanī andar bhāvanā ho us anusār usakā puruṣārtha (calatā hai). aur vah sahajarūp-se andar ho jāy to use hue binā rahe nahīṁ. jaise dūsarā sab sahaj ho gayā hai, vaise apanī taraphakā puruṣārtha bhī use sahaj ekadam ugrarūp-se ho to ho. bār-bār use chūṭ jāy aur karanā paḍe, usake bajāy use sahaj us taraphakī ugratā, bhāvanā, us or tīkhā puruṣārtha rahā hī kare to hotā hai.

dūsarā sab sahaj abhyās jaisā ho gayā hai, vibhāvakā to. vaise yah use sahaj (ho jānā cāhiye). maiṁ jñān-jñāyakamūrti hūn̐, vaisā sahaj aṁtarameṁ-se us jātakī pariṇati ban jāy, bhale abhyāsarūp ho, to use aṁtarameṁ āge baḍhanekā kuch ho sakatā hai.

mumukṣuḥ- vedan aisā honā cāhiye ki jisase vah prāpta na ho tabatak cain na paḍe.

samādhānaḥ-hān̐, cain na paḍe, aisā vedan use andar-se ānā cāhiye. apanā svabhāv grahaṇ kare, parantu vah manda-manda nahīṁ hokarake aisā vedan andar-se pragaṭ ho ki vah prāpta na ho tabatak cain na paḍe. aisā ho to use andar-se ugra ālamban aur ugra pariṇati apanī taraph jāy to vah pragaṭ hue binā rahe hī nahīṁ. ākulatārūp nahīṁ,

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parantu use andar-se vedan hī aisā hotā hai ki pariṇati bāhar ṭikaneke bajāy, ekatvabuddhi ṭūṭakar aṁtarameṁ jñāyak pariṇati ho, aisī ugratā honī cāhiye. phir viśeṣ līnatākī bāt bādameṁ rahatī hai. parantu ye jñāyakakī pariṇati use bhinna hokar ekadam pariṇamanarūp ho, aisā ugra vedan use andar-se ānā cāhiye.

mumukṣuḥ- utanā ho to bhī bahut hai. utanā ho. phir āge cāritrakī ekāgratā alag bāt hai.

samādhānaḥ- usakā aṁtarameṁ bār-bār abhyās karatā rahe. vah ugra kaise ho, aisī bhāvanā karate-karate ugra ho to kām āye. parantu abhyās karanemeṁ thakanā nahīṁ. abhyās to karate hī rahanā. use choḍanā nahīṁ. usakī sanmukhatā taraphakā prayatna choḍanā nahīṁ.

mumukṣuḥ- sanmukhatāmeṁ thoḍā khyāl āye, mātājī! phir to chūṭe nahīṁ. parantu mūlameṁ jo bhāvabhānasarūp-se jñāyak lakṣyameṁ ānā cāhiye, vah koī bār āye, phir to kitane hī samay tak aisā lage ki ye to jo khyāl ātā thā vah bhī nahīṁ ātā hai, aisā bhī ho jātā hai. vah grahaṇ hokar ṭikā rahe to-to ullās baḍhe, sab ho aur āge baḍhanā ho. parantu aisī paristhiti kabhī-kabhī ho jātī hai ki kabhī do-cār- chaḥ mahinemeṁ thoḍā khyāl āyā...

samādhānaḥ- phir-se sthūl ho jātā hai na, isaliye bāhar sthūlatāmeṁ calā jātā hai. isaliye use sūkṣmatā honemeṁ der lagatī hai. aisā ho jāya. vaisā use aṁtarameṁ-se phir-se laganī lage to ho sakatā hai.

mumukṣuḥ- satpuruṣoṁko dhanya hai ki unhoṁne aisī pariṇatiko dhārāvāhī ṭikākar apanā kārya kar liyā.

samādhānaḥ- .. vah aṁtarameṁ-se āge jātā hai. dhārāvāhī pariṇati to bādameṁ hotī hai, parantu ye usakā abhyāsa.

muumukṣuḥ- abhyāsameṁ dhārāvāhī. samādhānaḥ- dhārāvāhī. khaṇḍa paḍ jāy aur sthūl ho jāy, isaliye phir-se sūkṣma honemeṁ aur jñāyakako grahaṇ karanemeṁ der lagatī hai. aise bār-bār calatā hai. parantu aise hī bāraṁbār aisā ugra abhyās kare to use ho.

mumukṣuḥ- pariṇati saṁyogādhīn ho jātī hai. mumukṣuḥ- .. śraddhāguṇ aur jñānaguṇ donoṁkā sāthameṁ honā vah śraddhā hai? vah pakkā nirṇay?

samādhānaḥ- pratītakī śraddhā bhī kahate haiṁ aur jñānameṁ dr̥ḍhatā, donoṁ kahate haiṁ. vicār karake nirṇay kare. jñānakī dr̥ḍhatā aur śraddhākī dr̥ḍhatā, donoṁ. donoṁ kahanemeṁ ātā hai.

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pakkā nirṇay, lekin andar vicār-se nirṇay kare vah alag hai. andar svabhāv pariṇatimeṁ- se nirṇay āve vah alag hai. ye to vikalpātmak nirṇay hai. dhāraṇā arthāt raṭā huā, smaraṇameṁ rakhā huā, gurudevake upadeś-se grahaṇ kiyā huā, vicār-se nakkī kare ki barābar aisā hī hai, vah pakkā nirṇaya. vah nirṇay jñān-se bhī hotā hai aur pratītameṁ bhī hotā hai.

mumukṣuḥ- phir to anubhūti ho tabhī pakkā nirṇay kahā jāyegā na?

samādhānaḥ- anubhūti ho tab kahā jāya. parantu anubhūti hone pūrva use yathārtha kāraṇ pragaṭ ho tab bhī nirṇay hotā hai. parantu ye to abhī vikalpātmak, pahalekā nirṇay hai vah sthūl hai. usake bād jo anubhūtipūrvakakā nirṇay hotā hai vah yathārtha hai.

mumukṣuḥ- aur jinavāṇīmeṁ sabameṁ jñān, darśan aur cāritra in tīnoṁ guṇakī mukhyatā- se jñāyakako kaise prāpta karanā vah ātā hai, to jñāyakameṁ ananta guṇ hai, jīvameṁ to ananta guṇ hai to phir ye tīn guṇ hī vibhāv pariṇatiyukta haiṁ? ki unakī śuddhatā- se jñāyakakī prāpti hotī hai?

samādhānaḥ- ananta guṇ vibhāvarūp nahīṁ pariṇame haiṁ. sādhak daśāmeṁ tīn āte haiṁ-darśan, jñān aur cāritra. darśan yathārtha hotā hai to jñān bhī yathārtha hotā hai. phir cāritra bākī rahatā hai. phir līnatā hotī hai. darśan, jñān, cāritra tīn ho to sab śuddha hotā hai. ananta guṇ sab aśuddha nahīṁ hue haiṁ. darśan, jñān, cāritrakī.... ek samyagdarśan hotā hai to sarva guṇoṁkī pariṇati samyakarūp ho jātī hai. ek cakra phire, diśā par taraph hai, sva taraph āye to pūrā cakra sva taraph hotā hai.

mumukṣuḥ- thoḍā kaṭhin lagatā hai.

samādhānaḥ- na ho tabatak... choḍ denese (kyā hogā)? ruci karate rahanā, bhāvanā karate rahanā, karanā to ek hī hai-ātmāko grahaṇ karanā vahī hai.

mumukṣuḥ- munirājako tīn kaṣāyakī caukaḍī (gayī hai), utanī śuddhatā hotī hai aur thoḍī aśuddhatā hotī hai, to cāritraguṇakī ek paryāyameṁ śuddhatā-aśuddhatā donoṁ sāthameṁ rahatī hai?

samādhānaḥ- donoṁ sāth rahate haiṁ. usake amuk aṁś śuddha hote haiṁ aur thoḍī aśuddhatā hai. munirājako vītarāg daśā nahīṁ huyī hai, isaliye thoḍā saṁjvalanakā kaṣāy hai. cāritra bahut pragaṭ huā hai. thoḍī aśuddhatā rahatī hai.

mumukṣuḥ- aur vah śuddhikī vr̥ddhi śuddhopayog hotā jāy tabhī hotī hai?

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, śuddhopayog (hone-se) andar śuddhikī pariṇati hotī jātī hai. virakta daśā, aṁtar-se viśeṣ-viśeṣ aṁtarameṁ līnatā hotī jātī hai, līnatā baḍhatī jātī

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hai. isaliye āge jāte haiṁ.

mumukṣuḥ- jñān so ātmā. bhed paḍā isaliye 11vīṁ gāthā anusār sadabhut vyavahāranay huā, abhūtārtha yānī paradravya jaisā huā, to jñānakī paryāy pūrā ātmā svadravya jñāt hotā hai? anubhūti hotī hai?

samādhānaḥ- guṇ-guṇīkā bhed paḍatā hai isaliye sadabhut vyavahār hai. abhūtārtha yānī usameṁ āp jaise kahate ho vah nayakā svarūp hai, aisā nahīṁ hai. dravyadr̥ṣṭi-se par kahanemeṁ ātā hai. vah paryāy apanī hī hai. use dravyadr̥ṣṭikī apekṣā-se bhed ātmāmeṁ nahīṁ hai, ātmā to akhaṇḍa hai. akhaṇḍa vastu hai. usameṁ bhed karanā, pūrṇa aur apūrṇakā bhed paḍe us apekṣā-se use par kahanemeṁ ātā hai. vāstavik rūp-se vah jaḍ hai aisā usakā artha nahīṁ hai. vah jaḍ nahīṁ hai, caitanyakī paryāy hai.

mumukṣuḥ- apanī?

samādhānaḥ- hai apanī paryāy, parantu usameṁ bhed paḍatā hai isaliye dravyadr̥ṣṭikī apekṣā- se use par kahanemeṁ ātā hai. vah āpane kyā kahā abhūtārtha? ... bākī us aśuddha paryāyako koī apekṣā-se apanī kahanemeṁ ātī hai. isaliye use asadabhut vyavahār kahanemeṁ ātā hai. vyavahārake bahut bhaṁg hai.

... koī apekṣā-se apanī kahanemeṁ ātī hai. dravyadr̥ṣṭikī apekṣā-se use par kahanemeṁ ātā hai aur bhed paḍe, apanī paryāy hai isaliye apanī kahanemeṁ ātī hai.

mumukṣuḥ- aur jis samay anubhūti ho, us vakta to paryāy rahit dravya jñāyak, ekarūp jñāyak hī...

samādhānaḥ- paryāy rahit dravya nahīṁ ho jātā. mumukṣuḥ- nahīṁ, vartamān paryāy to bāhar rah jātī hai na? samādhānaḥ- palaṭ jātī hai. aśuddha paryāy palaṭakar śuddha paryāy hotī hai. dravya par dr̥ṣṭi dene-se śuddha pariṇati pragaṭ hotī hai. paryāy rahit dravya nahīṁ ho jātā, paryāyakī śuddha pariṇati hotī hai. ... parantu jñānameṁ sab dhyān rakhanā. paryāy rahit koī dravya hotā nahīṁ. parantu usakā astitva grahaṇ karake usakā bhed paḍatā hai, use lakṣyameṁ lene- se vikalpa ātā hai. isaliye use lakṣyameṁ nahīṁ liyā jātā. parantu usakī pariṇati to hotī hai. usakī svānubhūti pragaṭ hotī hai, vahī paryāy hai. pariṇati to hotī hai. dravya svayaṁ paryāyarūp pariṇamatā hai, parantu us par lakṣya nahīṁ rakhanā hai. paryāy usameṁ- se nikal nahīṁ jātī, paryāy pariṇamatī hai. dravyakī dr̥ṣṭi pragaṭ karanī hai. bākī jñānameṁ to paryāy hai, aisā rakhanā hai aur vah pariṇati dravyakī hī hotī hai, svānubhūtimeṁ.

praśamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho! mātājīnī amr̥t vāṇīno jay ho!

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