Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 132.

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આપના મુખેથી પૂજ્ય ગુરુદેવશ્રીનો મહિમા આવે છે તે ગજબનો છે    0   Play
āpanā mukhethī pūjya gurudevashrīno mahimā āve chhe te gajabano chhe    0   Play

અત્યારે અમને જે અપૂર્વતા લાગે છે તે વાત સમવસરણમાં નહીં સમજ્યા હોય?    1:50   Play
atyāre amane je apūrvatā lāge chhe te vāt samavasaraṇamān nahīn samajyā hoy?    1:50   Play

‘શાસ્ત્રપાઠી પણ મૂર્ખ છે’ એમ કહ્યું છે તો શું શાસ્ત્ર નહીં વાંચવાના?    2:35   Play
‘shāstrapāṭhī paṇ mūrkha chhe’ em kahyun chhe to shun shāstra nahīn vāñchavānā?    2:35   Play

સામાન્ય જીવને ક્ષયોપશમનું અભિમાન થઈ જાય છે જ્ઞાનીને કેમ થતું નથી?    4:50   Play
sāmānya jīvane kṣhayopashamanun abhimān thaī jāy chhe gnānīne kem thatun nathī?    4:50   Play

આવી વાત તો અમને સોનગઢમાં સાંભળવામાં મળી છે...... દિગંબરમાં પણ આ વાત નથી સાંભળી    7:15   Play
āvī vāt to amane sonagaḍhamān sāmbhaḷavāmān maḷī chhe...... digambaramān paṇ ā vāt nathī sāmbhaḷī    7:15   Play

છઠ્ઠા-સાતમાં ગુણસ્થાનમાં ઝૂલતા મુનિરાજને શાસ્ત્ર લખવાનો વિકલ્પ કેવી રીતે આવે?    9:20   Play
chhaṭhṭhā-sātamān guṇasthānamān jhūlatā munirājane shāstra lakhavāno vikalpa kevī rīte āve?    9:20   Play

મહાવિદેહક્ષેત્ર વિષે....    10:50   Play
mahāvidehakṣhetra viṣhe....    10:50   Play

ધ્રુવ-જ્ઞાયક વિષે    12:15   Play
dhruv-gnāyak viṣhe    12:15   Play

કોઈ બાળકીને જાતિસ્મરણ વિષે.... (શ્રોતા કહે છે)    14:00   Play
koī bāḷakīne jātismaraṇ viṣhe.... (shrotā kahe chhe)    14:00   Play

જીવ ગમે ત્યાં અટકી જાય છે તે વિષે    15:50   Play
jīv game tyān aṭakī jāy chhe te viṣhe    15:50   Play

શરીરના કાર્ય આત્માના હાથમાં નથી.    16:35   Play
sharīranā kārya ātmānā hāthamān nathī.    16:35   Play

mumukṣhuḥ- hame ātā hai, lekin us prakārakā nahīn hai. jab bhī āpako dekhate hain, tab āpake mukhase gurudevakī jo mahimā āpake shrīmukhase sunate hain, koī gajab hī ātī hai!

samādhānaḥ- is pañchamakālamen gurudev hī koī adabhut the. unhonne apūrva vāṇīkī varṣhā karake sabako jāgr̥ut kiyā. sab mumukṣhuoṅke, sādhakoṅke ve adabhut ādhār nimitta the. nimitta-upādānakā aisā sambandha hai ki jahān̐ aise guru ho, vahān̐ sab jāgr̥ut ho jāya.

jagatamen sarvotkr̥uṣhṭa chaitanyadev aur gurudev (hain). gurudevane jo sādhanā karake sabako batāyī, aise sarvotkr̥uṣhṭa mahimāvant is pañchamakālamen guru shāshvat hī rahen, aisī bhāvanā hai. antaramen ātmā aur bāharamen shubhabhāvamen dev-guru-shāstra hī hote hain, dūsarā kuchh nahīn hotā. gurudev virājate the, chaitanya... sabako jāgr̥ut karate the.

.. deshanālabdhi hotī hai. anādi kālakā anajānā mārga hai, ek bār sachche dev- gurukā, sākṣhāt chaitanyakā vāṇī use shravaṇ karane mile, tab use deshanā grahaṇ hotī hai. shāstramense vah bādamen samajhatā hai, parantu pahale to sākṣhāt vāṇī sunakar deshanālabdhi hotī hai. aisā upādān-nimittakā sambandha hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- abhī jo hamako apūrvatā lagatī hai to samavasaraṇamen vah bāt samajhamen nahīn āyī hogī? kyoṅki vartamānamen hamen jyādā lagatī hai. aisā lagatā hai ki samavasaraṇamen yah bāt nahīn samajhe hoṅge. ananta bār samavasaraṇamen gaye.

samādhānaḥ- samavasaraṇamen gayā, lekin jīv svayam jāgr̥ut nahīn huā. koī bār aisā bhī hotā hai ki is pañchamakālamen koī mahāpuruṣhakā janma ho aur jīv jāgr̥ut ho jāy, aisā bhī bane. samavasaraṇamen gayā, bhagavānako ananta kālamen dekhe, parantu apūrvatā lagī nahīn to aise hī vāpas ā gayā. bāhya dr̥uṣhṭise bhagavānako dekhe, lekin antarase nahīn dekhā.

mumukṣhuḥ- .. kahā to shāstra nahīn paḍhanā? shāstra abhinivesh ho jātā hai? gnānīke āshrayamen...

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samādhānaḥ- shāstramen hī aṭak jāy aur ātmākī svānubhūti na kare, us apekṣhāse. bākī adhūrāpan ho use bīchamen shrutakā chintavan, shāstra abhyās ādi sab hotā hai. parantu shāstramen hī aṭak jāy aur svānubhūti na kare aur usīmen aṭak jāy to us apekṣhāse use .. kahanemen ātā hai. usakā hetu jo svānubhūtikā thā vah usane nahīn kiyā to phir shāstrakā prayojan usane siddha nahīn kiyā.

prayojanabhūt ātmāko sādh liyā, svānubhūti prāpta karanī, yah shāstra svādhyāyakā hetu hai. padmanandī āchāryadevane kahā hai, vyabhichārīṇī buddhi bāhar ghumatī hai. antaramen na jāy to vah kis kāmakā hai? lekin kahīn aur aṭakatā ho, usake badale shāstrakā abhyās mumukṣhuoṅko hotā hai. kyoṅki use dūsarā ādhār nahīn hai, vahān̐ shrutakā chintavan (hotā hai). lekin dhyaye nahīn chukanā chāhiye. gurudev bhī shrutakā chintavan (karate the). unakā shrut koī apūrva thā. parantu gurudev kahate the ki svānubhūti mukhya hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- gnānīke āshrayamen shāstra paḍhane chāhiye, nahīn to gam paḍe binā āgam anarthakārak ho jāy, aisā nahīn ban sakatā?

samādhānaḥ- gnānīne jo artha kiyā ho, us arthako svayam grahaṇ kare. aur phir jo gnānīne artha kiyā ho us anusār artha kare to usamen dikkat nahīn hai. lekin apanī mati kalpanāse artha kare to use nukasānakā kāraṇ hotā hai. apanī buddhi anusār kare to. gnānīne kyā artha kiyā hai, usakā vah milān karake kare to vah yathārtha mārgako prāpta kare.

mumukṣhuḥ- sāmānya manuṣhyako to kṣhayopashamakā abhimān sahaj ho jātā hai. gnānīko kyon nahīn hotā? kṣhayopashamakā thoḍā ughāḍ ho to sahaj hī abhimān ho jātā hai.

samādhānaḥ- sachchā yathārtha mumukṣhu ho to use bhī nahīn hotā. kṣhayopasham mātra vah koī sādhanākā kāraṇ nahīn banatā. sādhanā to andar svayam dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi karake usakā gnān kare, usamen līnatā kare to sādhanā hotī hai. kṣhayopasham mātra vah sādhanā (nahīn hai). kṣhayopasham mātra nahīn, vah to ek sachchā gnān karanekā kāraṇ banatā hai. vah koī ātmākī sādhanā karanekā kāraṇ nahīn banatā. isaliye yathārtha mārgase jise svānubhav pragaṭ huā, use koī abhimān honekā kāraṇ nahīn banatā.

bārah aṅg aur chaudah pūrvakī labdhi munioṅko pragaṭ hotī hai. to bhī bhagavānako kahate hain, he bhagavān! main to alpa mātra hū̃n. main āpakī vāṇīko pahun̐ch nahī sakatā hū̃n. aisā kahate haĩn. svānubhūtimen kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen jāte hain, aise munioṅko bhī dev-guru-shāstrakī mahimā ātī hai. koī aise dravya, kṣhetra, kāl, bhāv na ho ki jahān̐ gnānion virājate na ho. jahān̐ dev-guru-shāstra na ho, aisā kisīko na ho. jise ātmākī sādhanā karanī

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hai, use dev-guru-shāstrakā itanā ādar hotā hai.

ananta kālamen is jīvako thoḍā jāne to (lagatā hai ki) mainne bahut jānā, mujhe bahut ātā hai. is tarah mumukṣhudashāmen aṭakaneke anek prasaṅg banate haĩn. ataḥ kahīn aṭakanā nahī̃n. ek ātmārthakā prayojan rakhanā, ek ātmārthatāko mukhya rakhanā. jo gnānionne kahā hai, jo mahāpuruṣhonne kahā hai us mārga par chala. bhedagnānakī dashā, jo svānubhūtikī dashā kis mārgase pragaṭ ho, usakā lakṣhya rakhanā. vah mārga kaun-sā hai? gnātākī dhārā, svānubhūtikī dashā kaise pragaṭ ho? is lakṣhyase chalanā hai. chalegā to kahīn nahīn aṭakegā.

mumukṣhuḥ- hamen to yahān̐ sonagaḍhamen sunane milī. nahīn to digambar tattvamen bhī hamane aisī bāt to nahīn sunī.

samādhānaḥ- shāstrake artha hī kaun sūlajhā sakatā thā? gurudevane sab artha kiye, gurudevakī vāṇīse sab jāgr̥ut ho gaye. samayasārake artha kaun sulajhā sakatā thā? pravachanasār aur dūsare adhyātma shāstra, sab shāstrake artha koī sūlajhā nahīn sakatā thā. gurudevane hī sab artha kiye. bhedagnānakī dashā, gnātādhārā, kartābuddhi chhoḍ, sab artha gurudevane hī sulajhāye haĩn. vastukā mūl rahasya unhonne hī batāyā hai. koī samajhatā nahīn thā. amuk sampradāyamen sab kriyāmen paḍe the. kriyāse dharma hotā hai, itanā kar len to dharma hogā, itanā shubhabhāv karen to aisā hogā, itanā karun̐gā to puṇya bandhegā. itanī sāmāyik kar len aur itane pratikramaṇ karen, usīmen sab paḍe the.

gurudevane (prakāshit kiyā ki), antaramen mārga hai, bhedagnānakī aisī dashā pragaṭ hotī hai, yah kartābuddhi toḍ, gnātādhār pragaṭ kar, svānubhūti antaramen hotī hai. man-vachan- kāyāse sabase atīt, vikalpase atīt, nirvikalpa dashākī prāpti ho, svānubhūti pragaṭ ho aur vah baḍhate-baḍhate munidashā āye to antaramen kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen jhulate ho. munikī dashā, kevalagnānakī dashā sab gurudevane batāyā. bhagavān kaise hote hain? guru kaise hote hain? shāstra kaise hote hain? sab gurudevane batāyā. koī nahīn jānatā thā, itane sāl pahale. ab sab jānane lage haĩn. sthānakavāsī aur derāvāsīmen sāmāyik kar lo, pratikramaṇ kar lo, upavās kar lo, usamen dharma mānate the. digambaramen itanī shuddha aur itanī ashuddhi, usamen sab aṭak gaye the. antaramen mārga hai, gurudevane itanā prachār kiyā, sabako jāgr̥ut kiye haĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- chhaṭhṭhe-sātaven guṇasthānamen vicharate mahāmuniko shāstra likhanekā bhāv kaise ātā hai? ātmāke ānandamen jhulate ho ekadama.

samādhānaḥ- ātmāke ānandamen kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen jhulate hain, parantu bāhar āte haĩn. kyoṅki

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abhī kevalagnān nahīn huā hai. kevalagnān ho to andar shāshvat virājate hõn. ātmākā ānanda aur gnānādi ananta guṇommen virājate hõn. parantu bāhar āte hain tab vikalpa utpanna hotā hai. vikalpamen munioṅko ek dev-guru-shāstrakā vikalpa (utpanna hotā hai). dūsare vikalpa to unhen (hote nahīn), koī bār āhārakā vikalpa ātā hai. dūsare koī vikalpa unhen (nahīn āte). ekadam alpa asthiratā hai, sañjvalanakā alpa kaṣhāy hai, dūsarā kuchh nahīn hai. vikalpa ātā hai to unhen shubh ātā hai, isaliye shāstra likhanekā vikalpa (ātā hai), munion jaṅgalamen baiṭhe hon, shāstrakā vikalpa ātā hai. vikalpa āye to likhate hain, vāpas andar sthir ho jāte haĩn. sthir honeke bād bāhar ākar to likhate haĩn. bāhar āte hain utanā adhūrāpan hai.

kevalagnān huā ho to koī vikalpa nahīn hai. kevalagnān nahīn hai isaliye bāhar āte hain, vikalpa ātā hai isaliye likhate haĩn. amr̥utachandrāchārya kahate hain, "mam paramavishuddhiḥ shuddhachinmātramūrte' merī vishuddhake liye main yah shāstra likhatā hū̃n. aisā prashasta vikalpa ātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- mahāvideh kṣhetrakā bhī mujhe āpake kāraṇ hī vishvās huā. nahīn to is jamānemen kaun mānatā hai? pr̥ithvī aisī hai. āpane, pūjya gurudevane jo bāten kahī, bahut adbhūt bāten lagatī haĩn. adbhūt-adbhūt bāten lagatī hai.

samādhānaḥ- abhī to sab matikalpanāse kuchh hai hī nahīn, aisā kahate haĩn. mahāvideh hai, bhagavān hai, sab hai. sīmandhar bhagavān virājate hain, divyadhvani chhūṭatī hai, samavasaraṇ hai, sab hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- devake bhavamen āpane avadhignānase narkake bhī duḥkh dekhe hoṅge, yah āpako yād hai? use dekhen to hārṭa pheīl ho jāy, aisī bāt hai.

samādhānaḥ- sab hai, narka-svarga sab hai. gnān aisā hai ki usamen sab ā jātā hai. sab ā sakatā hai. aur vah sab yathārtha hai aur is jagatamen sab hai. narka hai, svarga hai, mahāvideh hai, sīmandhar bhagavān hain, divyadhvani chhūṭatī hai, sab hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- bahut gajab hai! ānanda.. ānanda.. ānanda ho jātā hai. svasamvedanakī paryāy bhī svayaṅkā lakṣhya nahīn karatī aur main dhruv hūn̐, aisā... paryāy svayam apanā niṣhedh kare aisī aṭapaṭī bāten to gajab bāten lagatī hai. dhruv to kūṭastha dhruv hai.

samādhānaḥ- svayam gnāyakarūp dhruv hai. gnānamen sab jānatā hai, vedanamen use sab ātā hai. svānubhūtikā vedan hotā hai, gnānamen ātā hai aur dhruv ek svayam pāriṇāmikabhāvasvarūp par dr̥uṣhṭi hai. sab sāthamen vartatā hai. pratyek guṇ ātmāke... dr̥uṣhṭi dravya par hai, gnānamen gnāt ho rahā hai, sabakā vedan ho rahā hai. ananta guṇoṅkā vedan,

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ānandaguṇ ādi sabakā, dravya-guṇ-paryāy sabako jānatā hai. aur dr̥uṣhṭi shāshvat dhruvarūp dravya (par hai). chaitanyakī sab bāten koī adbhūt hai. gurudevane adbhūt mārga prakāshit kiyā hai. bākī narka, svargakā main kuchh vistārase nahīn kahatī hū̃n. parantu jagatamen sab yathārtha hai. vah sab kṣhetra hai, sab hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- bachapanamen kahatī thī ki main vahān̐ bakarī thī. mainne dekhā hai, .. thā, aise dev the, aisā cham̐var ḍhālate the, aisī āvāj ātī thī. dūsarā kuchh jyādā yād nahīn hai, parantu samavasaraṇakā varṇan kiyā.

samādhānaḥ- samavasaraṇakā?

mumukṣhuḥ- hān̐, main samavasaraṇako gap samajhatā thā, itanā sab varṇan jainiyonne adhikatāke liye hī kiyā hogā. phir vishvās ā gayā. yahān̐ ānese bhī sabhī bāton par bahut vishvās ho gayā. koī indra ūtarakar samajhāye to bhī samajhe nahīn, kahān̐ aṭakate hain, yah samajhamen nahīn ātā hai. yā phir dhāraṇāgnānamen..

samādhānaḥ- samavasaraṇamen bhagavān virājate haĩn. samavasaraṇamen divyadhvani chhūṭatī hai. munion, gaṇadhar sab sabhāmen (āte hain). bakarī thī?

mumukṣhuḥ- hān̐, spaṣhṭa bāt kī aur bahut sundar rūpase varṇan kiyā. mumukṣhuḥ- sāt sālakī chhoṭī thī. ... shrīmad rājachandrakā mandir hai, vahān̐ 15- 15 din rahate the. vah bhakti karatī thī, vahān̐ aisā phoṭo thā, to kahā, yah to mainne dekhā hai. main baḍe jaṅgalamen rahatī thī. main bakarī thī. dūsare bachche use chiṭhāne lage ki bakarī.. bakarī. tab hamen mālūm paḍā ki yah bakarī-bakarī kyon kahate hain? tab usane kahā ki, mainne yah sab dekhā hai. ghumā-ghumākar ḍākṭar ṭī. vī. shāh the us vakta pūchhā thā.

mumukṣhuḥ- bakarīkā bhav thā isaliye jyādā... vah chhoṭī thī, aisā kahatī hai, mere bagalamen baḍī bakarī thī. phir aisī bāt kahī ki, bāgh, sinh, hāthī bhī dekhā, sab bolane lagī. isaliye mujhe āshcharya huā ki yah bakarīke bagalamen bāgh, yah kyā kahatī hai? lekin sab varṇan kiyā. tabase ekadam vishvās ā gayā ki, yah bā satya hai. samavasaraṇamen sab jīv jāte hain, bāgh, bakarī ādi. sab gajab bāten kī. lekin itanā samavasaraṇ hī, phir kahān̐ gayī, kyā huā, vah koī bāt nahī̃n.

samādhānaḥ- kahīn bhī aṭak jātā hai. ātmākī orakā puruṣhārtha chalatā nahī̃n. use jahān̐ ruchi hotī hai, vahān̐ aṭak jātā hai. ātmākī ruchi karane jaisī hai. ātmārthatākī mukhyatā rakhane jaisī hai. bākī kahīn bhī aṭak jātā hai, use jahān̐ ruchi hotī hai vahā̃n. koī pramādamen, anek jātake vikalpommen, anek jātake vichārommen kahīn bhī aṭak jātā

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hai. kisīko kahān̐ ruchi lagatī hai, kisīko kahān̐ ruchi lagatī hai. ... chaḍh jāy aur ātmārthītā gauṇ ho jāya.

mumukṣhuḥ- yahān̐ ānese sāmānya pāp bhī puṇyamen pariṇamit ho jāte hain, to āpakā svāsthya... āp to gnānī haĩn. āpako takalīph rahe, āshcharya lagatā hai. hamen aisā lagatā hai, hamen bahut lābhakā kāraṇ hai. gurudevakī anupasthitimen hamen (āpake samāgamase) kitanā ānanda hotā hai. vah koī hāthakī bāt nahīn hai, gurudev kahate the na, vah hāthakī bāt nahīn hai. sharīrake kārya sharīr (karatā hai). svatantra hote hain, apane hāthakī bāt nahīn hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- sabako āpakī vāṇī pān̐ch-pān̐ch miniṭ mile to bhī bahut... bahut virah lagatā hai.

samādhānaḥ- unakī to bāt alag thī, main to unakā dās hū̃n. apane hāthakī bāt nahīn hai. sharīrakī kriyāen̐ svatantra haĩn.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho! mātājīnī amr̥ut vāṇīno jay ho!

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