Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 134.

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આત્મામાં આનંદનું વેદન થાય તે સ્વાનુભૂતિ છે તે વિષે...    0   Play
ātmāmān ānandanun vedan thāy te svānubhūti chhe te viṣhe...    0   Play

ઇન્દ્રિય સુખ દુઃખરૂપ હૈ ફિર કાટા ચુભનેસે દુઃખ હોતા વૈસા દુઃખ ઉસ સમય ક્યોં નહીં હોતા    3:50   Play
indriy sukh duḥkharūp hai fir kāṭā chubhanese duḥkh hotā vaisā duḥkh us samay kyon nahīn hotā    3:50   Play

વચનામૃતમેં આતા હૈ, ‘બાહ્યમેં ન રુચે તો આત્મામેં રુચિ પલટા દે’ વહ કૈસે કરના?    6:25   Play
vachanāmr̥utamen ātā hai, ‘bāhyamen na ruche to ātmāmen ruchi palaṭā de’ vah kaise karanā?    6:25   Play

પૂજ્ય ગુરુદેવશ્રીકે ટેપમેં આતા હૈ કિ જિસકો ક્રમબદ્ધકા નિર્ણય હોતા હૈ ઉસકો સ્વભાવકા નિર્ણય હો જાતા હૈ વહ કૈસે?    8:15   Play
pūjya gurudevashrīke ṭepamen ātā hai ki jisako kramabaddhakā nirṇay hotā hai usako svabhāvakā nirṇay ho jātā hai vah kaise?    8:15   Play

‘‘આત્મામાં બધું ભર્યું છે’’ તે વિષે....    11:00   Play
‘‘ātmāmān badhun bharyun chhe’’ te viṣhe....    11:00   Play

આપના પાસેથી સાંભળીએ છીએ તો એમ લાગે છે કે (આત્મા) જલ્દી પામી શકીએ તેવો છે..    13:10   Play
āpanā pāsethī sāmbhaḷīe chhīe to em lāge chhe ke (ātmā) jaldī pāmī shakīe tevo chhe..    13:10   Play

જ્ઞાયકકી રુચિ હો ઉસે ગોખના નહીં પડતા ઉસે ખટક રહા હી કરતી હૈ    13:55   Play
gnāyakakī ruchi ho use gokhanā nahīn paḍatā use khaṭak rahā hī karatī hai    13:55   Play

કૈસે પ્રયત્ન કરેં?    16:50   Play
kaise prayatna karen?    16:50   Play

વહી કા વહી પઢતે હૈ ફિર ભી ભાવ નયે લગતે હૈં    19:05   Play
vahī kā vahī parḥate hai fir bhī bhāv naye lagate hain    19:05   Play

samādhānaḥ- ... sharīr bhinna, ātmā bhinna, andar saṅkalpa-vikalpa jo hote hain, vah apanā svabhāv nahīn hai. aisā antarase usakī yathārtha pratīti karake, us prakārakā bhedagnān karake andarase vikalpa ṭūṭakar jaisā ātmā hai, usakā vedan ho, usako svānubhūti kahate hai.

ātmā jaisā hai, ananta guṇase bharapūr, usake guṇoṅko jo jāne, usakā vedan kare, ātmākā ānand jo svānubhūtimen vede, usakā nām svānubhūti hai. ātmākā vedan jisamen ho, usakā nām svānubhūti hai. siddha bhagavānakā jo svarūp hai, siddha bhagavānakā ansh jise svānubhūtimen pragaṭ hotā hai, siddha bhagavān to paripūrṇa ho gaye, unhen to kevalagnān ādi ananta guṇ paripūrṇa paryāyarūpase pragaṭ ho gaye, parantu samyagdr̥uṣhṭiko usakā ansh pragaṭ hotā hai. vah gr̥uhasthāshramamen ho, koī bhī kāryamen ho, to bhī jab vah vikalpase chhūṭ jātā hai, tab use svānubhūti (hotī hai). sva-anubhav ātmākā vedan hotā hai.

ananta guṇase bharapūr jo ātmā hai, us rūp ātmā pariṇamit ho jātā hai. ānandarūp, gnānarūp ādi ananta guṇarūp pariṇamit ho jātā hai. usakā nām svānubhūti hai. jo ananta kālamen jīvane bahut kriyāen̐ kī, shubhabhāv kiye, shubhabhāvase puṇya bandha hokar svargamen jāy, parantu jo svānubhūti pragaṭ nahīn kī hai, vah svānubhūti hī mokṣhakā upāy hai. parantu usakī pahale pratīt karake bhedagnān karake, usake gnān-dhyānakī ugratāse, gnātādhārākī ugratāse vikalpa ṭūṭakar jo svānubhūti-nirvikalpa dashā ki jisamen vikalpa bhī nahīn hai. vikalpa rahit, jisamen akele chaitanyakā astittva-ātmākā astitva hai, usakā nām svānubhūti hai.

muumukṣhuḥ- bahinashrī! usamen kyā hotā hai? anubhūti hotī hai, matalab usamen kyā hotā hai?

samādhānaḥ- anubhūti arthāt ātmasvarūpakā vedan hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- andarase ānanda ātā hai?

samādhānaḥ- ānanda ādi ananta guṇoṅkā jisamen vedan ho, usakā nām svānubhūti hai. vah koī vāṇīkī, kathanakī bāt nahīn hai. vah to usake vedanamen ātā hai. ātmā

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jaisā hai, vaisā use anubhavamen ātā hai. ātmāke ananta guṇ, ānandādi ananta guṇoṅkā jisamen anubhav hotā hai-vedan hotā hai, koī alag hī duniyāmen vah chalā jātā hai. yah vibhāvakī duniyā nahīn, parantu usakī svabhāvakī duniyā, vahī usakā svaghar hai, usamen vah bas jātā hai. svānubhūti, laukik anubhavase alag alag jo alaukik adabhūt dashā, jo bhūtakālamen kabhī nahīn huyī. vah apūrva hai. jīvane sab kiyā, parantu ātmākā svānubhav-samyagdarshan pragaṭ nahīn kiyā.

gurudev kahate the ki, samyagdarshan pragaṭ karanā vah koī apūrva hai. jīvane ananta kālamen.. āchāryadev bhī kahate hain ki, jinavar svāmi mile nahīn hai, samyagdarshan nahīn huā hai. ataḥ ananta kālamen yah donon apūrva haĩn. jinavar svāmi mile, lekin svayanne pahachānā nahīn, isaliye mile nahīn hai. samyagdarshan koī apūrva hai, ananta kālamen jīvane kabhī prāpta nahīn kiyā hai. yadi prāpta kiyā ho to usakā bhavabhramaṇ hotā nahī̃n. jise samyagdarshan ho, vah antaramen āge baḍhatā-baḍhatā apratihat dashāse jo baḍhatā hai, phir kramashaḥ use munidashā ātī hai. svānubhūti baḍhate-baḍhate antarmuhūrta-antarmuhūrtamen kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen ātmāmen līn hotā huā, munidashāmen to aisā līn hotā hai, antarmuhūrta-antarmuhūrta kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen, aisā karate-karate kevalagnān dashāko prāpta karatā hai. isaliye jise svānubhūti hotī hai, usakā to bhavabhramaṇ miṭ jātā hai. usakā pūrā jīvan ātmāmay ho jātā hai. usakā pūrā jīvan palaṭ jātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- indriy sukh duḥkharūp hai. jaise yahān̐ sūī chūbhī aur duḥkh mahesūs huā, aisā indriy sukh bhogate hue duḥkh kyon nahīn mahesūs hotā?

samādhānaḥ- kyā indriy sukh?

mumukṣhuḥ- jaise indriy sukh duḥkharūp hai, aisā āgamakathan bahut sunā. to jaise yahān̐ kān̐ṭā chūbhāyā to duḥkharūp mahesūs huā, aisā indriy sukh bhogate samay duḥkharūp mahesūs kyon nahīn hotā?

samādhānaḥ- usako gnān nahīn hai to buddhikā bhram ho gayā. ākulatā-ākulatā hai, sab ākulatāmen paḍā hai. ākulatā hī duḥkh hai yānī buddhikā bhram hai. kalpanāse, bhramase usane sab padāthāmen sukh mān liyā hai. bhītaramen vichār kare to ākulatā hai, ākulatā hai. svabhāvase viparīt vibhāv dashā sab ākulatārūp hai-duḥkharūp hai. ākulatā hai, ākulatākā vedan hai. kalpanāse use sabamen sukh lagatā hai. kalpanā hai. vichār kare to sab duḥkh hai. koī aisā dekhanemen ātā hai ki yah duḥkh hai, parantu sab duḥkh hai.

devalokamen jāy to devalokamen sukh lagatā hai, narkamen duḥkh dekhanemen ātā hai. parantu devalokamen bhī bhītaramen ākulatā hai. ākulatā hī duḥkh hai. mūl duḥkh ākulatā hai.

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bhītaramen jo ākulatā, saṅkalpa-vikalpakī ākulatā hai, vah sab ākulatā duḥkharūp hai.

jo svādhīn sukh hai, vah usakā nām hai, jisamen parapadārthake āshrayakī jarūrat na hove, parakī jarūrat jisamen na hove, jo sva-āshray-chaitanyake āshrayase-jo pragaṭ hove, svayam pragaṭ hove, svataḥsiddha pragaṭ hove, vah sukh hai. vah sukh ātmākā svabhāv hai. jisamen parapadārthakī jarūrat paḍatī hai, indrayoṅkī jarūrat paḍatī hai, kisīke āshrayakī jarūrat paḍatī hai vah sukh nahīn hai. jo parādhīn hai, vah sab sukh nahīn hai.

gurudev kahate hain, parādhīnatāmen svapnamen bhī sukh nahīn hai. parādhīnatāmen sukh nahīn hai, duḥkh hī hai. svādhīn jo apane āshrayase-chaitanyake āshrayase pragaṭ hotā hai, vahī sukh hai. vah yathārtha sukh hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- vachanāmr̥utamen pahale bolamen āyā ki, yadi bāhar nahīn ruchatā hai to upayog andar palaṭ de, ātmāmen ruche aisā hai. ise prayog paddhatimen kaise rakhe? shabdamen to sunate hain, paḍhate hain, lagatā hai, ruchatā bahut hai, jachatā bhī hai, lekin prayog paddhatimen andar kaise āye?

samādhānaḥ- upayog palaṭ de. usakā upayog bāhar jātā hai to palaṭ upayogako palaṭ de. palaṭe kaise? usakī ruchi hove to palaṭe. usako bāharamen aisā lage ki yah vibhāv ākulatā hai, sab duḥkh hai, ātmāmen sukh hai, usakī pratīt hove, usakā nishchay hove, gnān hove tab upayog palaṭe. upayog palaṭanā vah to puruṣhārtha karake palaṭatā hai, aise to nahīn palaṭatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- aise to jachatā hai na ki bāhar nahīn ruch rahā hai, phir bhī bār- bār upayog bāharakī or hī bhagatā hai, ātmākī or (nahīn ātā).

samādhānaḥ- apanī kamī, apanī bhūl hai. apanā puruṣhārtha..

mumukṣhuḥ- hamen abhī tak ātmākī mahimā nahīn hai kyā ki jisase aisā lagatā hai?

samādhānaḥ- puruṣhārthakī kamī hai isaliye bāhar upayog jātā hai. apanī mahimā lage, bāharamen sukh nahīn lage, bāharamen chain nahīn lage, ātmāke sukhake binā shānti nahīn hove, aisā hove tab upayog bhītaramen jāya. ātmāke binā jisako chain nahīn paḍatā hai, usakā upayog bhītaramen jātā hai. jisako bāharamen chain paḍ jātā hai, to upayog bhītaramen nahīn jātā hai. bāhar chain nahīn paḍe to upayog bhītaramen jātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- mātājī! gurudevakī ṭepamen (ātā hai ki) kramabaddhakā nirṇay hote hī svabhāvakā nirṇay ho jātā hai.

samādhānaḥ- sab kramabaddha hai to kartābuddhi chhūṭ jātī hai. main kisīko karatā nahīn hūn̐, main kisīko kar nahīn sakatā hū̃n. svataḥsiddha ātmā anādiananta hai. usakī paryāy

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bhī svayam (hotī) hai. sab kramabaddha hai. svabhāvakā nirṇay dr̥uḍh ho jātā hai. bhedagnān ho jātā hai, kramabaddhakā nirṇay hotā hai to. kartābuddhi chhūṭ jātī hai aur svabhāvakā nirṇay ho jātā hai. svabhāvakī dhārā pragaṭ honemen puruṣhārthapūrvak hotī hai. jisako ātmākā kalyāṇ karanā hai usako, jaisā bananevālā hotā hai, banatā hai, ṭhīk hai (aisā nahīn hotā). parantu jo puruṣhārtha karatā hai, jisakā kramabaddha achchhā hotā hai usako puruṣhārtha hī dhyānamen ātā hai. jo kramabaddha hotā hai, puruṣhārthapūrvak hotā hai. ātmāmen puruṣhārtha lagatā hai, usakā kramabaddha aisā hotā hai. vah puruṣhārthapūrvak hotā hai. svabhāvakā nirṇay kare to kartābuddhi chhūṭ jātī hai. sab kramabaddha hai.

samyagdr̥uṣhṭi hotā hai usako nirṇay ho gayā ki sab kramabaddha hai. parantu usakī jo puruṣhārthakī dhārā rahatī hai, vah aisā vichār nahīn karatā hai ki honevālā hotā hai. usakī to puruṣhārthakī dhārā hī rahatī hai. jisako ātmākā kalyāṇ karanā hai, usako main puruṣhārtha nahīn karun̐, jaisā honevālā hai vaisā hogā, aisā vichār nahīn hotā. usakā kramabaddha achchhā hotā hai, jisako puruṣhārtha karanā hai, usakā kramabaddha achchhā hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- nirṇay bhī usīkā kahalāyegā ki jisakī sahaj gati andaramen hogī?

samādhānaḥ- jignāsuko aisā vichār nahīn ātā ki nirṇay honevālā hotā hai. jignāsuko to chain nahīn paḍatī. main nirṇay kar lūn̐, main aisā kar lū̃n. to usakā kramabaddha achchhā hotā hai. usako aisā vichār nahīn hotā ki, bhagavānane jaisā dekhā hogā vah hogā. jo puruṣhārtha kare usakā kramabaddha achchhā dekhā hai. jignāsuko to puruṣhārtha par dr̥uṣhṭi rahatī hai. bākī kartābuddhi parapadārthakī chhūṭ jātī hai.

samādhānaḥ- .. vāṇīmen āye aisī bāt nahīn hai. bākī jise ātmākī ruchi lagī, ātmāmen hī sab bharā hai, bāhar kuchh nahīn hai. ātmāmen shānti, ātmāmen ānanda, ātmākī apūrva mahimā, ātmā ananta-ananta gnānase bharapūr hai, agādh gambhīr guṇonse bharapūr hai. jisake guṇoṅkā pār nahīn hai, aisā adabhūt ātmā jagatase bhinna, is vibhāvakī duniyāse alag jātakā ātmā hai. vikalpa ṭūṭakar usakī svānubhūti hotī hai. pahale vah pratītamen ātā hai. usakī bhedagnānakī dhārā pragaṭ (hotī hai). nirvikalpa svānubhūti honeke bād jo usakī bhedagnānakī dhārā hotī hai vah sahaj hotī hai. pahale to vichārapūrvak, nirṇayapūrvak karatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- bārambār ātā hai, svabhāv pragaṭ hai, pragaṭ hai, āp kahate ho jīv jāgr̥ut hai, jāgr̥ut hai...

samādhānaḥ- pragaṭ hī hai, svayam hī hai, gupta nahīn hai. svayam vichār kare to jānanevālā svayam hī hai. jo paryāy hotī hai, jo vikalpa āve un sabako jānanevālā bhinna hī

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hai. parantu svayam ekatvabuddhi mān rahā hai. use jānanevālā svayam (hai). dūsareko jānatā hai isaliye nahīn, parantu svayam hī jānanevālā svabhāvarūp svayam hī jānanevālā hai. usakā jānanekā svabhāv hai. parase usakā astitva hai, aisā nahīn, svayanse usakā astitva hai. aisā jānanevālā svayam virājatā hai, lekin vah dr̥uṣhṭi detā nahīn hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- doṣh apanā hī hai.

samādhānaḥ- apanā hī doṣh hai, anādi kālase.

mumukṣhuḥ- jab bhī najar kare tab sākṣhāt svarūp vaisākā vaisā..

samādhānaḥ- vaisākā vaisā hai. jise ātmā... usakī bhedagnānakī dhārā to sahaj vartatī hī hai. aisā hī hai. usakā astitva sahaj hai. jo khyālamen le use ā sake aisā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- kabhī-kabhī aisā hotā hai ki ananta kāl gayā phir bhī jānā nahīn aur āpake mukhase sunate hain tab aisā lagatā hai ki aisā sahaj hai ki shīghra prāpta kar sake aisā hai.

samādhānaḥ- ananta kālakā anajānā mārga hai, isaliye vikaṭ hai. bākī apanā svabhāv hai isaliye sahaj hai. gurudevane mārga bātakar sab sahaj kar diyā hai. kahīn kisīko bhūl na rahe, bhram na rahe aisā spaṣhṭa mārga batāyā hai. svayaṅko puruṣhārtha karanekā bākī rahatā hai.

samādhānaḥ- ... gnāyakakī ruchi hotī hai to sahaj hotā hai. use raṭan karanā nahīn paḍatā, use sahaj ho jātā hai. use khaṭak rahatī hai ki yah sab hai, parantu main to bhinna hūn̐, main to bhinna hū̃n. aisī usako bhāvanā rahatī hai. raṭanā bhī nahīn paḍatā. jisako samyagdarshan ho gayā usakī bāt to dūsarī hai, usako to sahaj bhedagnān rahatā hai. usakā to gnāyakamay jīvan ho jātā hai. ek ātmāmay jīvan, ātmākī koī alag hī dishā ho jātī hai. kyoṅki antarakī dr̥uṣhṭi badal jātī hai. aur jo bhāvanā hotī hai usako bhī aisī khaṭak rahatī hai ki yah sab hotā hai, lekin main to bhinna hū̃n. raṭanā nahīn paḍatā. aisī khaṭak rahanī chāhiye, khed honā chāhiye ki main ekatva kyon ho jātā hūn̐? jo jignāsu hotā hai usakī aisī andar bhāvanā rahatī hai, bhāvanā.

mumukṣhuḥ- ekatvamen khedabuddhi ātī hai.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, aisā ho jātā hai ki main aise (ekatva) ho jātā hū̃n. mujhe ātmākā karanā hai, mujhe ātmākā karanā hai. jignāsā rahatī hai, aisī bhāvanā rahatī hai. .. kaise sahaj hove? main kaise ātmā pahachānūn̐? main kaise tattvakā vichār karun̐? kyā dravya hai? kaise guṇ hain? paryāy kaisī hai? kaise main shāstra samajhun̐? kyā gurudevane batāyā

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hai? aisī bhāvanā bhītaramen rahatī hai. raṭan karanese vikalpa ho jātā hai. bādamen bhāvanā hove to koī bār raṭan kare, lekin usakī aisī sahaj koī khaṭak rah jātī hai.

jaise laukikamen koī duḥkh hotā hai to bhītaramen khaṭak-khaṭak rahatī hai ki aisā kyon ho gayā? aisā kyon ho gayā? vaise ātmākī khaṭak rahatī hai to, mujhe ātmā kaise mile? mujhe ātmā kaise mile? aisī bhāvanā to rahatī hai. jignāsuko aisā rahatā hai. janma-maraṇ kaise miṭe? aisī bhāvanā rahatī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- hamen kaisā prayās karanā? shāstrakā abhyās chalatā hai...

samādhānaḥ- sachchā gnān kare to mārga mil jātā hai. shāstramense mārga mile.... shāstrakā artha samajhamen na āve to gurudevane kyā batāyā hai, usakā vichār kare, kisīko pūchhe isakā kyā artha hai? isamense koī mārga mile to bhītaramense bhī mārga milanekā vah kāraṇ banatā hai. bāharakā shāstrakā svādhyāy karanese. kuchh log svādhyāy karate rahate hain, parantu bhītaramen vichār na kare to kuchh samajhamen nahīn ātā, vah to pāṭhakī bhān̐ti kar letā hai. parantu vichār karake samajhanā chāhiye.

mumukṣhuḥ- nahīn, lekin yah bhī hai, jaise apanako ruchi hotī hai to phir vichār karanekī ichchhā bhī hotī hai.

samādhānaḥ- hotī hai, ruchi ho to vichāranekī ichchhā hotī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- vichār karanekī phir ichchhā bhī hotī hai. jyādā paḍh nahīn sakate. āgekā utanā tak to hotā hai, jaise ki, pīchhale sāl gnān aur rāg alag nahīn dikhatā hai. ab do-tīn mahinese gney-gnāyak sambandha pustak paḍhī, bahinashrī! vah mereko bahut achchhī lagī. usamen mereko, gnān alag hai, rāg alag hai, aisā samajhamen to ātā hai, bādamen kaise karanā?

samādhānaḥ- samajhamen ātā hai, lekin usakā bhed karanā vah alag hai. samajhamen to ā jāy ki rāgakā lakṣhaṇ bhinna hai, gnānakā lakṣhaṇ bhinna hai. gnān to bhītaramen jānanevālā hai main hūn̐ aur rāg bhinna hai. aisā samajhamen āyā, buddhimen āyā. buddhimen āyā lekin usakā bhed karanā vah dūsarī bāt hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- bhed kaise kareṅge?

samādhānaḥ- vah to prayatna hove.

mumukṣhuḥ- puruṣhārtha-prayatna kareṅge.

samādhānaḥ- prayatna kare, usakī mahimā hove, usakī jignāsā hove ki main kaise karun̐? laganī lage. gnāyakake binā mujhe chain nahīn paḍatī. rāgamen mujhe ākulatā lagatī hai. yah ākulatā duḥkharūp hai. sukh hove, gnāyakamen shānti hove, gnāyakako main kaise

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pahachānun̐? usakī bhāvanā jage, usakī jignāsā, laganī lage to usakā bhedagnān hove. binā laganīke nahīn ho sakatā. jabatak nahīn hove tabatak jānanā apanī kṣhati hai, apanī kamī hai. kamī hai, jignāsā kam hai, puruṣhārtha kam hai. jabatak nahīn hove tabatak vichār karanā, svādhyāy karanā, nahīn hove tab taka. ākulatā nahīn karanā.

... bāt nahīn ātī, bhedagnānakī koī bāt nahīn ātī hai. mātra kriyākī bāt ātī hai ki, aise karo, upavās karo, yah karo, vah karo, aisā hī sab ātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ... aisā lagā ki ajīb-ajīb lagane lagā. paḍhate hain nā to ajīb- ajīb lagatā hai. main bolatī, yahān̐ke pātra hai digambar baḍe rahasyātmak hai. kabhī kuchh tarīkā batāye, kabhī kuchh nahīn karanā, nayā-nayā lagatā. paḍhate vahī kā vahī saba.

samādhānaḥ- andarase naye-naye rahasya nikalate jāte haĩn. āchayākī kathanīmen gaharāī hai. bahut gaharāī hai. jīv, ajīv-ajīv, ajīv, parantu bīchamen jo rāg hotā hai, vah rāg chaitanyakī paryāyamen hotā hai, usakā nimitta karma hai. koī apekṣhāse chaitanyakā kahanemen āye, koī apekṣhāse jaḍakā kahanemen āye, usakā bhedagnān karanā. usakī nishchay- vyavahārakī sandhi karanā usamen bahut aṭapaṭā hotā hai. vichār karake biṭhānā paḍatā hai.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho! mātājīnī amr̥ut vāṇīno jay ho!

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