Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 146.

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કેવળજ્ઞાની સર્વ આત્મપ્રદેશ જાણે છે. સ્વાનુભૂતિમાં પણ શું સર્વ પ્રદેશથી આત્મા જણાય છે?    0   Play
kevaḷagnānī sarva ātmapradesh jāṇe chhe. svānubhūtimān paṇ shun sarva pradeshathī ātmā jaṇāy chhe?    0   Play

જ્ઞાનીને પ્રચુર આનંદ આવે છે, પ્રચુર એટલે કેટલો?    2:00   Play
gnānīne prachur ānand āve chhe, prachur eṭale keṭalo?    2:00   Play

પૂજ્ય ગુરુદેવશ્રી બહુ યાદ આવે તો શું કરવું?    3:05   Play
pūjya gurudevashrī bahu yād āve to shun karavun?    3:05   Play

પાછળ પડે તો કાર્ય થયા વિના રહે જ નહીં...આત્મા તો અનંત શકિતથી ભરેલો છે    4:30   Play
pāchhaḷ paḍe to kārya thayā vinā rahe ja nahīn...ātmā to anant shakitathī bharelo chhe    4:30   Play

આપે જે દ્રવ્યનો અનુપમ મહિમા બતાવ્યો ‘‘તે હું છું’’ એમ નિર્ણય કરી અને જો તે તરફ લક્ષ કરવું તેને શું દ્રષ્ટિ કહેવાય છે? અથવા વસ્તુ જેવી છે તેવી જાણી શ્રદ્ધા કરવી તેને દ્રષ્ટિ કહેવાય છે?    7:50   Play
āpe je dravyano anupam mahimā batāvyo ‘‘te hun chhun’’ em nirṇay karī ane jo te taraph lakṣha karavun tene shun draṣhṭi kahevāy chhe? athavā vastu jevī chhe tevī jāṇī shraddhā karavī tene draṣhṭi kahevāy chhe?    7:50   Play

...... નિર્ણયનું જોર વધી જાય ત્યારે શું વિકલ્પ છૂટે છે?    9:35   Play
...... nirṇayanun jor vadhī jāy tyāre shun vikalpa chhūṭe chhe?    9:35   Play

આત્માનો મહિમા વધારે કેવી રીતે આવે?    11:00   Play
ātmāno mahimā vadhāre kevī rīte āve?    11:00   Play

વારંવાર આ વાત સાંભળવા છતાં જીવ વળવા માટે કેમ પ્રયત્ન કરતો નથી?    12:10   Play
vāramvār ā vāt sāmbhaḷavā chhatān jīv vaḷavā māṭe kem prayatna karato nathī?    12:10   Play

આવો જોગ મળવા છતાં સમ્યગ્દર્શનની પ્રાપ્તિ ન થઈ તો અહીંયાથી ગયા પછી જીવ કયાંય ખોવાઈ જાય તેવું બને ખરું?    15:30   Play
āvo jog maḷavā chhatān samyagdarshananī prāpti na thaī to ahīnyāthī gayā pachhī jīv kayāny khovāī jāy tevun bane kharun?    15:30   Play

mumukṣhuḥ- āj subah ṭepamen āyā thā ki kevalagnānī sarva ātmapradeshase jānate haĩn. to svānubhūtimen bhī sarva pradeshase ātmā gnāt hotā hai?

samādhānaḥ- use kahān̐ kevalagnān pragaṭ huā hai, use to kṣhayopashamagnān hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- parantu vah to pratyakṣha hai na?

samādhānaḥ- ānshik vedan pratyakṣha hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- vedan pratyakṣha hai, pradesh pratyakṣha nahīn hai.

samādhānaḥ- pradesh nahīn hai, vedan pratyakṣha hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- to sarva pradeshase?

samādhānaḥ- use jīvake pradesh dab nahīn gaye haĩn. use nirāvaraṇ asaṅkhya pradeshamen amuk ansh to khulle hī haĩn. usake khulle anshase jānatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- indriyagnānamen to barābar hai ki amuk anshonse jānatā hai. parantu atīndriy vedanake kālamen?

samādhānaḥ- vah jānatā hai lekin jo kevalagnānī jānate hain, vaise vah nahīn jānatā hai. vedan pratyakṣha hai. thoḍā jāne aur thoḍā na jāne, aisā nahīn hai. pūre ātmāko jānatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- pūre ātmāko lekin sarva pradeshase?

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, sarva pradeshase pūre ātmāko jānatā hai. use bhed nahīn paḍatā hai ki itane pradesh jāne aur itane pradeshase nahīn jānatā hai, aisā bhed nahīn paḍatā. sarva pradeshase, sarvāṅg vedan hotā hai. amuk pradeshamen vedan hotā hai aur amukamen nahīn hotā hai, aisā nahīn hai. sarvāṅgase vedan hotā hai aur sarvāṅgase vah jānatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- gnān bhī sarvāṅgase...?

samādhānaḥ- gnān bhī sarvāṅgase aur vedan bhī sarvāṅgase. thoḍā vedan hai aur thoḍe pradeshamen nahīn hai, yā thoḍemen gnān hai aur thoḍemen nahīn hai, aisā nahīn hai. sarvāṅgase gnān aur sarvāṅgase vedan hai. parantu vah vedan pratyakṣha hai. kevalagnānīkā gnān pratyakṣha hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- sampūrṇa pratyakṣha hai.

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samādhānaḥ- sampūrṇa pratyakṣha hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- andaramen shāntikī dhārā chalatī hai. prachur ānanda kahate hain, prachur ānanda. vah prachur kitanā? māp kyā?

samādhānaḥ- bārambār kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen antar ātmāmen jātā hai na. shuddhaupayogakī dhārā bārambār pragaṭ hotī hai. bāhar ātā hai aur antaramen jātā hai. antarmuhūrta-antarmuhūrtamen andar jātā hai aur antarmuhūrtamen bāhar ātā hai, antarmuhūrtamen antaramen jāte haĩn. ataḥ prachur svasamvedan hai. bārambār.. bārambār.. bārambār.. bārambār antaramen jāte haĩn. aur kaṣhāy to bilakul alpa ho gaye haĩn. sañjvalan ekadam patalā ho gayā hai. vītarāg dashā vr̥uddhigat ho gayī hai. vītarāg dashā vr̥uddhigat ho gayī hai isaliye ānanda bhī baḍh gayā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- prachur ho gayā hai.

samādhānaḥ- prachur ho gayā hai. bār-bār antaramen jāte hain aur vītarāg dashā ekadam baḍh gayī hai. isaliye ānanda prachur svasamvedan hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- gurudev to chale gaye, ab gurudevakī bahut yād ātī hai, hamen kyā karanā?

samādhānaḥ- yād āye to gurudevane jo mārga batāyā, us mārgako grahaṇ karake usakā abhyās karanā. gurudevane jo kahā hai, use yād karanā. mārga batāyā, antaramen dr̥uṣhṭi karanekā. use andar pīghalānā, usakā vichār karanā, usakā abhyās karanā. vah karane jaisā hai. jo gurudevane kahā vahī karane jaisā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- bahut-bahut dhanyavāda. āpane bahut kr̥upā karake bahut achchhā māl diyā.

samādhānaḥ- (gurudevane) mārga batāyā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- bahut batāyā hai, bahut batāyā hai. bahut spaṣhṭatā kī hai.

samādhānaḥ- ekadam spaṣhṭa karake khullā kar diyā hai. sab kriyākāṇḍamen aur shubhabhāvase dharma mānate the. usamen ekadam antar dr̥uṣhṭi aur dravyadr̥uṣhṭi batā dī, svānubhūti batāyī. aur barason tak vāṇī barasāyī.

mumukṣhuḥ- barābar hai, barābar hai.

samādhānaḥ- tīrthaṅkar jaisā kām is pañchamakālamen kiyā. dravya-guṇ-paryāyakī kisīko shaṅkā nahīn rahī, aisā kiyā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- kuchh bākī nahīn rakhā. likhā hai na? māṅgamen tel bhare, ek-ek māṅgamen aise ek-ek pahalū spaṣhṭa kiye haĩn.

samādhānaḥ- sab pahalū khulle kiye.

mumukṣhuḥ- sabakā kām bahut jalda ho jāyagā.

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samādhānaḥ- ek hī mantra gurudevane diyā hai, gnāyak ātmāko pahachāna. svamen ekatvabuddhi, parase vibhakta ho jā. to vahī svānubhūtikā mārga hai.

samādhānaḥ- .. pīchhe paḍe to hue binā rahe nahī̃n. svayam hī hai, anya koī thoḍā hī hai. parantu pahale usakā kāraṇ pragaṭ kare. abhī to vibhāvakī ekatvabuddhi khaḍī hai. svamen ekatvabuddhi, parase vibhakta-(bhinnatā) kare to usakā mārga ho. vah buddhi-ekatvabuddhi to khaḍī hī hai. vibhāvakī ekatvabuddhi. svayam svayammen ekatva kare, (vibhāvase) vibhakta kare to vikalpa ṭūṭanekā prasaṅg āye. abhī to ekatvabuddhi hai. ekatvabuddhi hai usamen vikalpa kaise ṭūṭegā?

bahut log dhyān karake vikalpa.. vikalpa.. vikalpa.. chhoḍane jaisā hai (aisā kahate hain), parantu kaise chhūṭeṅge? vikalpake sāth ekatvabuddhi khaḍī hai. isaliye hote haĩn. ... (ātmākā) svarūp to chaitanya to gnāyak svabhāv-jānanekā svabhāv hai, jānanevālā hai. ananta-ananta shaktionse bharā huā. jis shaktikā kahīn ant nahīn hai, aisī shaktikā nāsh nahīn hotā. ananta guṇonse bharapūr adabhut tattva hai. jo gnānasvabhāv ananta-ananta hai, jisakā ant nahīn ātā. pūrṇa lokālokako jāne to bhī vah to ananta-anantatāse bharā huā ananta lokālok ho to jāne, aisī usakī gnānashakti hai.

vaisī usakī ānandashakti hai. ananta kāl tak pariṇamatā rahe to bhī usakā ānanda kam nahīn hotā. aisī ananta-ananta shaktionse bharā huā ātmā hai. aise ananta guṇ- ananta shaktionse bharā aisā chaitanyatattva hai. usakī mahimā aur usakī adabhutatā koī alag prakārakī hai. usakī mahimā āye, usakī ruchi ho to jīvanamen vah kartavya hai. bākī ye bāharakā to sab paradravya hai. yah sharīr to paradravya hai, vibhāv svabhāv ātmākā nahīn hai. vah to puruṣhārthakī mandatāke kāraṇ vah vibhāvamen juḍatā rahatā hai aur bhrāntise yah sab merā hai, aisā mānatā hai. usake sāth ekatvabuddhi kar rahā hai.

chaitanya svabhāvamen svayam svayammen ekatvabuddhi kare aur parase vibhakta-usakā bhedagnān kare aur main chaitanyatattva gnāyak hūn̐, is tarah svayammen ekatvabuddhi karake parase kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen bhedagnān kare vahī jīvanakā kartavya hai. bhedagnān karake gnāyakakā bārambār-bārambār usīkā prayatna karake, usīkā abhyās karake vah pragaṭ karane jaisā hai.

vikalpakī jāl ākulatārūp hai. ye vibhāv svabhāv ākulatārūp hai, sukh svarūp nahīn hai. sukhakā dhām, ānandakā dhām to ātmā hai. isaliye bārambār vah kaise pragaṭ ho? vikalpa ṭūṭakar nirvikalpa dashā, svānubhūti kaise pragaṭ ho? vah pragaṭ karane jaisā hai. vahī jīvanakā kartavya hai. usake liye tattva vichār, svādhyāy, dev-guru-shāstrakī mahimā, chaitanyakī mahimā ādi sab is gnāyakatattvako pragaṭ karaneke liye karanā hai.

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satyārtha vah hai. vikalpa ṭūṭakar svānubhūti ho aur svānubhūtikā ansh pragaṭ ho vahī muktikā mārga hai. svānubhūtikī dashā baḍhate-baḍhate pūrṇatā prāpta hotī hai. ataḥ vahī jīvanakā kartavya hai. dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi karake vahī karane jaisā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi, aisā āpane kahā, arthāt dravyakī jo anupam mahimā āpane batāyī, aisā main hūn̐, aisā nirṇay karake us or svayaṅkā lakṣhya karanā, use dr̥uṣhṭi kahate hain? yā vastu jaisī hai vaisī jānakar shraddhā karanī, use dr̥uṣhṭi kahate hain?

samādhānaḥ- pratham use pahachān lenā ki chaitanyatattva yah hai, aisā mahimāvant hai. aise pahachānakar us par dr̥uṣhṭi karanī. us dr̥uṣhṭimen koī bhed nahīn paḍatā. apanā astitva grahaṇ karatā hai ki yah chaitanya hai so main hū̃n. use svabhāvamense grahaṇ kare. ek buddhise nirṇay kare vah alag bāt hai. bākī antar dr̥uṣhṭi karake use barābar pahachāne, us par dr̥uṣhṭi kare. usakī dr̥uṣhṭi kaho yā pratīt kaho, jo bhī kaho sab ek hai. dr̥uṣhṭi, pratīta. usake sāth gnān yathārtha (hotā hai ki), yah chaitanya main hū̃n. usake sāth pariṇati bhī us or (jātī hai ki) vah kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen bhedagnān kare. vah bhedagnān pahalese nahīn hotā hai, usakā abhyās kare to hotā hai.

pratham to yathārtha svānubhūtike bād jo yathārtha gnāyakakī dhārā pragaṭ ho, vah alag hotī hai. pahale to vah mātra abhyās karatā hai ki main gnāyak hūn̐, main gnāyak hūn̐, yah main nahī̃n. aisā abhyās (karatā hai). yathārtha gnāyakakī dhārā aur kartābuddhi ṭūṭakar jo gnātādhārā pragaṭ ho vah svānubhūti honeke bād yathārtharūpase hotī hai, sahajarūpase hotī hai. usake pahale to vah abhyās kare, parapadārthakī kartābuddhi chhoḍe ki main parapadārthakā kar nahīn sakatā, main chaitanya gnāyak-gnātā hū̃n. aise pahale to abhyās kare. bādamen yathārtha hotā hai aur sahajarūpase bādamen hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- prayatnapūrvak svayam parapadārthase bhinna hai, main gnān aur ānanda hū̃n. aise nirṇay karake svarūpakī or jhukatā hai, vikalpake dvārā aur jab usakā us or jor baḍh jāy, tab vikalpa ṭūṭatā hai?

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, jor baḍhe to hī. to hī vikalpa ṭūṭatā hai. mātra manda-manda ho usamen nahīn ṭūṭate. yathārthapane usakā jor, dravyadr̥uṣhṭikā jor baḍhe to vikalpa ṭūṭe.

mumukṣhuḥ- aur āpake jo vachan nikale hain, un par gurudevane sab spaṣhṭīkaraṇ kiyā hai aur āpake mukhase vāṇī sunakar bhī mujhe bahut ānanda huā hai. aur vāstavamen ... bahut santoṣh hotā hai ki mahābhāgyashālī hain ki bhagavatī mātā āp pratyakṣha hamāre sāmane maujūd hon, āp darshan dete hõn. gurudevane āpakī pahachān nahīn karavāyī hotī to khyālamen bhī nahīn ātā, āpako pahachān nahīn sakate.

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samādhānaḥ- satyārtha yahī hai. muktikā mārga gurudevane yahī darshāyā hai. antaramen vah koī alag tattva hai, sukhakā dhām vah hai, gnānakā dhām vah hai, ānandakā dhām vah hai, koī adabhut tattva hai. usakī mahimā lākar vahī karane jaisā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- adhik mahimā kaise āye?

samādhānaḥ- vah svayam kare to hotā hai. parapadārthakī mahimā ṭūṭ jāy aur svabhāvakī mahimā āye ki vāstavamen svabhāv koī alag chīj hai. gnāyak-gnānasvabhav koī alag hī hai, chaitanya koī alag hī hai aur yah sab tuchchha hai. vibhāv svabhāv ādaraṇīy nahīn hai. vah koī ātmāko sukharūp nahīn hai, ākulatārūp hai, viparītarūp hai, apanā svabhāv nahīn hai. yah svabhāv so merā nahīn hai, merā svabhāv koī alag hī hai. aisā nirṇay ho to usakī mahimā āye. (chaitanyakī) ruchi ho to mahimā bhī usīmen samāviṣhṭa hai. ruchike sāth mahimā samāviṣhṭa hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ruchi aur mahimā...?

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, donon ek hī hai. ruchi, mahimā, usakī lagana. parapadārthakī tuchchhatā bhāsit ho to apanī apūrvatā bhāsit ho.

mumukṣhuḥ- bārambar yah bāt sunane par bhī us or muḍaneke liye jīv adhik puruṣhārtha kyon nahīn kar sakatā hai?

samādhānaḥ- anādise abhyās parapadārthakī or hai, ruchi usamen juḍī hai. jitanī tīvra ruchi apanī or chāhiye utanī karatā nahīn hai, isaliye puruṣhārtha nahīn hotā hai. parapadārthakī or, vibhāvakī or aṭak rahā hai. vibhāvamen usakā puruṣhārtha juḍ rahā hai. isaliye apanī or mandatā rahatī hai. apanī orakī ugratā ho ki yah kuchh nahīn chāhiye, mujhe ek ātmā hī chāhiye, aisī ugratā ho to puruṣhārtha apanī or muḍe.

mumukṣhuḥ- apane doṣhase-apanī bhūlase hī duḥkhī hotā hai.

samādhānaḥ- apanī bhūlase svayam duḥkhī hotā hai. nirmal svabhāv ātmā hai. jaise pānī nirmal hai, vaisā svayam sphaṭik jaisā nirmal hai. parantu bhrāntike kāraṇ main malin ho rahā hūn̐, aisī use bhrānti ho gayī hai. usakī paryāyamen mātra use ashuddhatā hotī hai. svayam palaṭe to ho sake aisā hai. parantu svayaṅkī mandatāke kāraṇ aṭak rahā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- nij shuddha svarūpakā jab andarase svīkār ho, tab paryāyamen shuddhatā ho.

samādhānaḥ- tab hotī hai. shuddhātmāko pahachāne, barābar usakī pratīt ho, us or pariṇati ho to shuddha pariṇati ho. ashuddha pariṇati gauṇ ho. pūrṇatā to bādamen hotī hai, parantu pahale ansh pragaṭ hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- atīndriy ānandakā anubhav hai vah jagatakī koī vastuke sāth darshā

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sakate hain yā samajh sakate hain?

samādhānaḥ- koī dr̥uṣhṭāntase samajhāyī nahīn jātī. kyoṅki vah atīndriy hai. usamen indriyoṅkā āshray nahīn hai. svayam apane āshrayase pragaṭ hotī hai. jo sukhakā dhām hai, svataḥsiddha vastu hai usamense ānanda pragaṭ hotā hai. use jagatakī koī vastuke sāth mel nahīn hai. kyoṅki ye padārtha jaḍ hain, viparīt svabhāv hai, vibhāvabhāv bhī viparīt hai. isaliye usakā kisīke sāth mel nahīn hai. indrakā indrāsan, devalok hai vah sab bhī vibhāvasvabhāv hai, vibhāvakā phal hai. phir puṇyake jitane bhī prakār hain, unhen shuddhātmāke sāth mel nahīn hai. ataḥ usakī koī upamā nahīn hai. jaise viṣh aur amr̥ut bilakūl bhinna hain, vaise yah bhinna hī hai.

... ātmākī mahimā aur svādhyāy ādi karane jaisā hai. ananta kālamen jīvane samyagdarshan prāpta nahīn kiyā hai, aisā shāstramen ātā hai. bākī sab prāpta ho gayā hai. ek jinavar svāmī aur samyagdarshan prāpta nahīn kiyā hai. parantu jinavar svāmī mile hain, lekin svayanne pahachānā nahīn hai. isaliye ve bhī nahīn mile hain, aisā kahanemen ātā hai. aur samyagdarshan koī apūrva vastu hai, use prāpta nahīn kī. bākī sab jagatamen prāpta ho gayā hai. isaliye yah ek apūrva hai. isaliye us apūrvatākā puruṣhārtha karanā vahī jīvanakā kartavya hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- vāstavamen hitakī bāt hai, vaisā karane jaisā hai.

samādhānaḥ- vistār kar-karake mārgako ekadam spaṣhṭa kar diyā hai. kisīkī kahīn bhūl na rahe, itanā mārga spaṣhṭa kiyā hai. puruṣhārtha karanā apane hāthamen hai. apane puruṣhārthakī mandatāse svayam rukā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- bahut spaṣhṭīkaraṇ huā, is kālamen gurudev dvārā bahut spaṣhṭīkaraṇ huā. aisā yog milane par bhī samyagdarshanakī prāpti nahīn huyī aur yahān̐se deh chhūṭ gayā to jīvakā kahīn bhī gūm jānā hogā, yah barābar hai?

samādhānaḥ- samyagdarshanakī prāpti nahīn huyī, parantu yadi usakā abhyās svayam (karatā ho), usakī bhāvanā gaharī ho aur antarakī gaharāīse svayaṅko yathārtha lagan lagī ho to kahīn bhī jāy to bhī use puruṣhārtha ho sakatā hai. aisā avakāsh rahatā hai. parantu yadi gahare sanskār na ho to vah bhūl jātā hai. bākī usake sanskār gahare ho, tīvra bhāvanā ho ki mujhe ātmā hī chāhiye, aisī bhāvanā ho to vah kahīn bhī jāy vahān̐ pragaṭ honekā, puruṣhārthakā avakāsh rahatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- gahare sanskār kise kahate hain? gahare sanskār arthāt..?

samādhānaḥ- mujhe gnāyak ātmā chāhiye aur kuchh nahīn chāhiye. aisī tīvra bhāvanā

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andar rahatī ho ki ek ātmā sukhakā dhām, ānandakā dhām, ek gnāyak ātmā (hī chāhiye). vikalpakī jāl kuchh nahīn chāhiye. ek chaitanya nirvikalpa tattva jo mahimāse bharā hai, vahī chāhiye, dūsarā kuchh nahīn chāhiye. aisī gaharī ruchi yadi andaramen ho aur usake binā chain nahīn paḍatā ho, vah kahīn bhī sphūrit hue binā nahīn rahate. use bāhya sādhan prāpta ho jāte hain aur usakā puruṣhārtha bhī jāgr̥ut ho jātā hai. aise sanskār andaramen ho to.

mumukṣhuḥ- aise sanskār lekar jīv kadāchit anya gatimen jāy to aise nimitta prāpta ho sakate haĩn.

samādhānaḥ- prāpta ho jāte haiaĩn. apanī bhāvanā anusār jagat taiyār hī hotā hai. bhāvanā gaharī na ho vah alag bāt hai. apanī bhāvanā gaharī ho to jagat taiyārī hī hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- apane upādānakī taiyārī ho to nimitta kahīnse bhī hājir ho jātā hai.

samādhānaḥ- nimitta hājir ho jātā hai. aisā nimitta-naimittik sambandha hai.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho! mātājīnī amr̥ut vāṇīno jay ho!

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