Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 169.

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પૂજ્ય ગુરુદેવની પરિણતિ વ્યાખ્યાન વખતે સ્વભાવ તરફ વિશેષ પરિણમતી હશે?    0   Play
pūjya gurudevanī pariṇati vyākhyān vakhate svabhāv taraph visheṣh pariṇamatī hashe?    0   Play

નિર્મળદશા તે શું આત્માનું સ્વરૂપ છે?    1:50   Play
nirmaḷadashā te shun ātmānun svarūp chhe?    1:50   Play

સાધકદશામાં જેમ ચારિત્રમોહનીયની બે ધારા હોય છે તેમ શું આનંદની બે ધારા હોય છે?    3:10   Play
sādhakadashāmān jem chāritramohanīyanī be dhārā hoy chhe tem shun ānandanī be dhārā hoy chhe?    3:10   Play

છઠ્ઠા ગુણસ્થાને સુખગુણની પર્યાય શું સંપૂર્ણ દુઃખરૂપે પરિણમે છે?    3:40   Play
chhaṭhṭhā guṇasthāne sukhaguṇanī paryāy shun sampūrṇa duḥkharūpe pariṇame chhe?    3:40   Play

શું ગુણને પર્યાય અને પર્યાયને ગુણ કહેવાય?    5:10   Play
shun guṇane paryāy ane paryāyane guṇ kahevāy?    5:10   Play

‘જીવ સત્પુરુષકી ચરણકમલકી વિનય ઉપાસકનાકે બિના પ્રાપ્ત (આત્મા) નહીં કરતા’ યહ નિર્ગ્રંથ પરમાત્માકા સર્વોત્કૃષ્ટ વચન હૈ–શ્રીમદ્જી    6:00   Play
‘jīv satpuruṣhakī charaṇakamalakī vinay upāsakanāke binā prāpta (ātmā) nahīn karatā’ yah nirgranth paramātmākā sarvotkr̥uṣhṭa vachan hai–shrīmadjī    6:00   Play

જ્ઞાની પ્રત્યે આડાઅવળા વિકલ્પો આવે તેને જ્ઞાની પ્રત્યે બહુમાન ભકિત નથી?    11:35   Play
gnānī pratye āḍāavaḷā vikalpo āve tene gnānī pratye bahumān bhakit nathī?    11:35   Play

‘બીજું કઈ શોધમાં, એક સત્પુરુષને શોધી તેના ચરણ- કમળમાં સર્વભાવ અર્પણ કરી પ્રવૃત્તિ કરતો રહે.–શ્રીમદ્જી    15:40   Play
‘bījun kaī shodhamān, ek satpuruṣhane shodhī tenā charaṇ- kamaḷamān sarvabhāv arpaṇ karī pravr̥utti karato rahe.–shrīmadjī    15:40   Play

mumukṣhuḥ- ... vyākhyān karanā vah to hamārā khurāk hai. us vakta pūjya gurudev vyākhayān karate ho us vakta unakī pariṇati svabhāvakī or visheṣh jhukatī hogī? vyākhyān to hamārā khurāk hai.

samādhānaḥ- unako andar jo pariṇati apanī antaramen chalatī thī, us apekṣhāse bāt thī. bāharase vyākyān kare (usase nahīn), antarakī apanī anek jātakī pariṇati chale, shrutagnān ādi anek jātakī pariṇati chale. svabhāv dashākī anek jātakī pariṇati chale us apekṣhāse bāt hai. svādhyāy, dhyān vah sab hamārā khurāk hai. vah to unhen antarakī pariṇati...

mumukṣhuḥ- dhruvakā jo gholan chalatā ho, us vakta pariṇati visheṣh ātmāmen magna hotī ho, aisā kuchh hai?

samādhānaḥ- aisā usakā artha nahīn hai. pravachanake samay visheṣh aur bādamen kam aisā usakā artha nahīn thā. vah to gurudevakā svādhyāy ādi sab... svādhyāy hai vahī hamārī pariṇati hai. vyākhyān kare, svādhyāy kare, vāñchan kare, vah sab hamārā khurāk hai, aise arthamen hai. akelā pravachan hī, aisā usakā artha nahīn hai. pariṇati jāy, isaliye vyākhyā khurāk hai, aise. vyākhyān... orakā vikalpa thā. andar ghoṭan apanā thā. prabhāvanākā yog, sabako lābh milanevālā thā, isaliye unhen vyākhyānakā vikalpa thā. antaramen unhen svayaṅkī pariṇati chalatī thī. vyākhyān to nimitta thā.

mumukṣhuḥ- nirmal dashā vah to ātmākā..

samādhānaḥ- apramatta dashā yānī antarakī svānubhūti.

mumukṣhuḥ- vah to ātmākā svabhāv hai na?

samādhānaḥ- ātmākā svabhāv, ātmākī anubhūti. munidashākī ātmānubhūti. samyagdarshanamen anubhūti hotī hai, ye munidashākī visheṣh chāritradashākī. gnān, darshan, chāritrakī ekatārūp pariṇati ho, vah apramatta dashā.

mumukṣhuḥ- apramatta dashā hai vah to ātmākā svarūp hai.

samādhānaḥ- ātmākā svarūp jo anādiananta hai vah nahīn, ye pragaṭ huā svarūp

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hai. anādiananta svarūp hai vah nahī̃n. yah to pragaṭ pariṇatirūp svarūp, anubhūtirūp svarūp hai. anādiananta svarūp hai vah to hai. lekin ye to anubhūtirūp svarūp munioṅko pragaṭ huā hai. gnān-darshan-chāritra ratnatrayakī ekatārūp pariṇati pragaṭ huyī hai. anubhūtirūpa. visheṣh prachur svasamvedan, apanā vedan pragaṭ huā hai. svarūp yānī usakā vedana. anādiananta svarūp hai aise nahī̃n. usakī vedanarūp pariṇati hai, apramatta dashā yānī. ratnatrayakī ekatā visheṣh pragaṭ huī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- jaise chāritraguṇakī paryāyamen sādhak dashāmen do dhārā hotī hai, vaise ānanda guṇakī prati samay do dhārā hotī hai yā nahīn?

samādhānaḥ- ānandaguṇakī dhārāmen do dhārā, aisā nahīn hotā. ānanda to jo svānubhūtike vakta pragaṭ hotā hai, vahī ānanda hai. bākī use hameshā shānti-samādhikā vedan hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- chhaṭhaven guṇasthānamen sukhaguṇakī paryāy sampūrṇa duḥkharūp pariṇamatī hai?

samādhānaḥ- chhaṭhaven guṇasthānamen chāritrakī jo paryāy hai, vah chāritrakī paryāy amuk rūpase pariṇamatī hai. sukharūp pariṇamatī hai, duḥkharūp nahīn pariṇamatī. chāritra kahīn chalā nahīn jātā, savikalpa dashāmẽn. munioṅko chāritra hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- aur sukhaguṇakī paryāy?

samādhānaḥ- sukhaguṇakī paryāy hai. hai parantu jo svānubhūtikā ānanda hai, us jātakī yah paryāy nahīn hai. svānubhūtikā ānanda hai us jātakī paryāyakī nahīn hai. chāritra dashā to hai. svānubhūtimen pragaṭ hotī hai. savikalpa dashāmen sukharūp to pariṇamatā hai. sukhak vedan to hotā hai. samyagdr̥uṣhṭiko bhī sukhakā vedan hotā hai. aur munioṅko to chāritra hai isaliye visheṣh sukhakā vedan savikalpa dashāmen hotā hai. sukhakī paryāy, ānandakī paryāy use kahate hain, bākī vah ānanda alag aur yah sukh donon alag vastu hai. sukhakī paryāy kahate hain, bākī donon alag hai. ānandaguṇ aur sukhaguṇ, sab ek apekṣhāse kahate hain, bākī ānandaguṇ aur sukhaguṇ donon bhinna-bhinna haĩn.

samādhānaḥ- ... usamen ananta guṇ haĩn. usamen us guṇako paryāy kahate hain aur usī guṇako guṇ kahate haĩn. aisā ātā hai. gnān aur darshan do guṇ kahate haĩn. chetanākī do paryāy koī jagah kahanemen ātā hai. aisā bhī ātā hai. ek chetanāguṇa. usamen gnān aur darshan do. donoṅko paryāy kahate hain, lekin do guṇ haĩn. do guṇ bhī kahanemen bhī āye, donon guṇ joradār hai. asādhāraṇ guṇ hai. samuchchayarūpase use chetanāguṇ kah dete haĩn. vaise chāritra, sukh aur ānanda. ānanda guṇ bhī kahate hain aur ānandako paryāy bhī kahate haĩn. sab kah sakate haĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- ... satpuruṣhake charaṇakamalakī vinayopāsanāke binā prāpta nahīn kar sakatā.

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yah nirgrarrntha bhagavānakā sarvotkr̥uṣhṭa vachanāmr̥ut hai.

samādhānaḥ- hindī hai?

mumukṣhuḥ- jī hān̐, āpako gujarātī (kahatā hūn̐). paramātmākā dhyān .. parantu ātmā vah dhyānako satpuruṣhake charaṇakamalakī vinayopāsanā binā prāpta nahīn kar sakatā. yah nirgrarrntha bhagavānakā sarvotkr̥uṣhṭa vachan hai.

samādhānaḥ- paramātmākā dhyān karanese paramātmā huā jātā hai. paramātmā kaun hai? paramātmākā svarūp kyā hai? paramātmākā dhyān karane paramātmā huā jātā hai. paramātmā, dravya svayam paramātmā hai. usakā dhyān kaise karanā? usakā kyā svarūp hai? vah batāye kaun? satpuruṣhakī charaṇ-upāsanāke binā vah ho sakatā nahī̃n. vah svarūp kaun batāye? paramātmā kise kahate hain? paramātmākā svarūp kyā hai? usakā dhyān kaise kiyā jāy? vah sādhakadashā, sādhya, vah sab satpuruṣhakī charaṇ-upāsanā binā ho sakatā nahī̃n.

vah mārga satpuruṣh batāte haĩn. anādikā anajānā mārga hai. vah svayam apaneāp apanī kalpanāse.. paramātmā kise kahanemen ātā hai, vah samajhe binā dhyān kare to shrīmadajī hī kahate hain, dhyān taraṅgarūp ho jātā hai. us dhyānamen anek jātake vikalpa.. vikalpa (chalate hain). vikalpa manda kare lekin jo yathārtha chaitanyakā astitva hai, use grahaṇ na kare to dhyān ho sakatā nahī̃n. ek chaitanyako lakṣhyamen lekar usamen upayogako sthir kare to dhyān jamatā hai, nahīn to dhyān jamatā nahī̃n. satpuruṣh jo batāte hain ki tū svayam hī paramātmā hai. terā dravya svayam paramātmāsvarūp hī hai. tū gnāyak svayam paramātmā hai. paramātmākā svarūp batāye, us par dr̥uṣhṭi sthāpit kar, usamen terī līnatā kar to yathārtha ... vah mārga satpuruṣh darshāte haĩn.

satpuruṣhakī upāsanā binā, satpuruṣh jo batāte hain us mārgako grahaṇ kiye binā dhyān ho nahīn sakatā. apanī kalpanāse dhyān nahīn ho sakatā. dhyān ātmāko pahichāne binā (hotā nahīn). us ātmākī pahichān kaun karavāye? satpuruṣha. jinhonne mārgako jānā hai, jisane mārgako sādhā hai, aise satpuruṣh us mārgako darshāte haĩn. isaliye satpuruṣh jo kahate hain use grahaṇ karanā. ve kyā āshay kahanā chāhate hain? paramātmā kise kahate hain, yah satpuruṣh batāte haĩn.

nahīn to jīv to anādi kālase paramātmā yānī.. jo paramātmā hai vah chaitanyasvarūp paramātmā hai, yah samajhatā nahī̃n. parantu dūsare paramātmāko paramātmā samajhatā hai. vah paramātmā jisane pūrṇa svarūp prāpta kiyā vah paramātmā barābara. lekin vah paramātmā bhī aisā hī kahate hain ki tū svayam paramātmā hai, usakā dhyān kara. svayam paramātmasvarūp hai usakā

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dhyān karanese paramātmā huā jātā hai. vah mārga satpuruṣh batāte haĩn.

satpuruṣhakī vinay upāsanā. jo satpuruṣh kahe use grahaṇ kare aur satpuruṣhako vinayase ve jo mārga batāte hain, usakā āshay grahaṇ kare, use vinayase sune, shravaṇ karake andar grahaṇ kare to prāpta hotā hai. sva mati kalpanāse prāpta nahīn hotā. unakā vinay, unakī bhakti, hr̥udayamen bahumān ho to vah pragaṭ hotā hai. sva mati kalpanāse artha kare ki ise kahate hain yā ise paramātmā kahate hain, aise vah prāpta nahīn hotā. satpuruṣhakā āshay barābar grahaṇ kare. vinayase, bhaktise ki ve kyā kahanā chāhate hain? koī apūrva mārga guru batā rahe haĩn. gurune jo apūrvatā batāyī, us apūrvatāko svayam barābar vinayase samajhe to prāpta hotā hai.

svayam dhyān karane jāy to dhyān jamatā bhī nahīn hai. paramātmā kise kahate hain, yah yathārtha grahaṇ kiye binā dhyān (hotā nahīn). nij astitva grahaṇ kiye binā dhyān jam nahīn sakatā. dhyān taraṅgarūp ho paḍatā hai. dhyān anādi kālamen kiyā, bahut bār dhyān kiyā, vikalpa manda hue, dhyānamen kuchh ekāgratā huyī parantu ātmā grahaṇ nahīn huā, to dhyān taraṅgarūp ho paḍā. kuchh lābh nahīn huā. satpuruṣhake vinayase unhonne jo kahā vah grahaṇ karanese paramātmā pahichāne jāte hain, paramātmākā dhyān hotā hai. sab satpuruṣhake charaṇamen vinay aur bhaktise unake vachanoṅko grahaṇ karanese hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- bhakti kaisī?

samādhānaḥ- bhakti to svayam mahimā kare. bāharase bhakti kare aisā artha nahīn hai. antaramen bahumān ānā chāhiye. unake vachan par sarva prakārase bahumān ānā chāhiye. arpaṇatā honī chāhiye. ve kahate hain barābar hai, unhonne jo mārga kahā hai vah barābar hai. is tarah svayam svayanse nakkī karake bahumān ānā chāhiye. svayam vichār karake nakkī kare ki ye satpuruṣh hain aur koī apūrva mārga batā rahe haĩn. phir jo bhī kahen vah barābar hai. aise svayam antaramense us jātakā bahumān, us tarah hr̥udayamen bhakti ānī chāhiye.

mumukṣhuḥ- dūsare koī gnānīke prati idhar-udharake vikalpa āte ho to use gnānīkā bahumān yā bhakti antaramen nahīn hai.

samādhānaḥ- nahīn, idhar-udharake vikalpa āye to vah bhakti nahīn hai. jo guru kahate hain vah barābar hī hai. phir usakā hr̥uday arpaṇ ho jātā hai. unakī bhakti aur mahimāse.. jo guru sādhak dashā sādh rahe hain usamense nikalī huyī vāṇī aur sādhakatāke jo-jo kārya hon vah sab use bahumānarūp hī grahaṇ karatā hai, anyathā grahaṇ nahīn karatā.

mumukṣhuḥ- use usamen shaṅkā na paḍe.. us jātakī taiyārī..

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samādhānaḥ- us jātakī taiyārī, andarase bahumān, bhaktivāleko ho jātā hai. usamen kuchh āshay hogā, usamen kuchh hit hogā, aisā artha grahaṇ karatā hai. aisā dikhatā honeke bāvajūd aisā kahate hain, usamen kuchh hit yā āshay gurukā hai, is tarah svayam grahaṇ karatā hai. usamen kuchh mere hitake liye athavā kuchh āshay hai, aisā artha grahaṇ karatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- jain darshanamen guru-shiṣhyakā aisā hī mel hogā?

samādhānaḥ- aisā hī hotā hai. jinakī pariṇati sādhakatākī or gayī, jo muktike mārga par guru pariṇamate hain, unake jo kārya hai vah sab lābharūp aur hitarūp hī hai. aise shiṣhyako arpaṇatā ā jātī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- .. svachchhandamen jātā hai?

samādhānaḥ- vah sab svachchhandamen jātā hai. apanī kachās hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- tabatak tattva prāpta nahīn kar sakatā?

samādhānaḥ- mushkil hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- to bhī kāryakārī nahīn hotā?

samādhānaḥ- dhāraṇāgnānase nahīn lekin antar bahumān aur ruchise āge baḍhā jātā hai. prayojanabhūt tattva grahaṇ kare, lekin andar bahumān aur ruchi ho to vah āge baḍhatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- bāharamen gnānīke prati bahumān aur antaramen ātmākī ruchi.

samādhānaḥ- gnānīke prati bahumān aur antaramen tattvakī ruchi. in donoṅkā sambandha hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ek ho vahān̐ avinābhāvī dūsarā ho hī. ātmākī ruchi ho use gnānīke prati bahumān hotā hī hai.

samādhānaḥ- antarakī ruchi ho use gnānīke prati bahumān hotā hī hai. aisā sambandha hai. antarakī ruchi ho aur guruke prati bahumān na ho, aisā nahīn banatā. to usakī ruchimen kachās hai. to apanī buddhi-kalpanāse sab nakkī karatā hai, usamen usakī ruchikī kachās hai. jise prāpta karanekī ruchi hai, usamen guuru kyā kahate hain? guru prati arpaṇatā sāthamen hotī hī hai. main jān nahīn sakatā hūn̐, main jis mārga par jā rahā hūn̐, vah mārga mujhe pragaṭ nahīn hai, jinhonne pragaṭ kiyā un par arpaṇatā (hotī hai) aur ve kyā kahate hain? us prakārakā vinay aur bhakti usake hr̥udayamen hote hī haĩn. svayam jān nahīn sakatā hai aur jinhonne jānā hai unake prati bahumān nahīn hai to usamen us jātakī kachās hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- gurudevake shiṣhyommen to bahubhāg aisā hī lagatā hai ki dhāraṇāgnān to

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bahut spaṣhṭa hai, bahutoṅko hai, phir bhī prāpta nahīn kar sakate hain usako aisā hī koī svachchhanda apanā hogā, aisā lagatā hai. main to merī apanī bāt karatā hū̃n. aisā lagatā hai ki abhī bhī aisā kuchh na kuchh (svachchhanda chal rahā hai).

samādhānaḥ- jo jignāsu hai vah apanī hī kṣhati khojatā hai ki merī kahīn na kahīn kṣhati hai. isaliye merā puruṣhārtha uṭhatā nahīn hai. merī kahīn kṣhati hai. apanī kṣhati khojanevālā hī āge baḍh sakatā hai. dūsarekī kṣhati khojanevālā āge nahīn baḍh sakatā. apanī kṣhati khoje vahī āge baḍhatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- dūsarā kuchh mat khoj, bījun kān̐ī shodhīsh nahīn, mātra ek satpuruṣhako khoj aur unake charaṇakamalamen sarva bhāv arpaṇ karake pravr̥utti karatā raha. sarva bhāv arpaṇ karake pravr̥utti karatā raha. sarva bhāv yānī? sarva arpaṇatā? sarva prakārakī.

samādhānaḥ- sarva prakārakī arpaṇatā. guru jo kahate hain vah sab arpaṇatā. usamen bīchamen apanī kalpanā, bīchamen apanī koī hoshiyārī nahī̃n. guru kahate hain vah sab arpaṇatā. apanī hoshiyārī yā apanī mati kalpanāse kuchh nakkī nahīn karanā, guru jo kahe vaise. apane sarva bhāv arpaṇa. jo kahe vah use mānya hai. mujhe samajhamen nahīn ātā hai. svayam samajhanekā prayatna karatā hai. bākī jo guru kahate hain vah barābar hai. merī apanī kachās hai. shrīmad to vahān̐ tak kahate hain na, guruko sarva bhāv arpaṇ kar de, phir mukti na mile to mere pāsase le jānā. aisā kahate haiaĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- isake bātakā vākya hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- vah barābar hai?

samādhānaḥ- mere pāsese le jānā, usakā artha yah hai ki tujhe mukti milegī hī. sarva bhāv arpaṇ kar de arthāt tū gnātā ho jā, isaliye tujhe mukti milegī hī. sarva bhāv arpaṇ kara. koī bhāv nahīn, sabakā svāmītva chhoḍ de, sab guruko arpaṇa. isaliye tujhe svayaṅko bhedagnān ho jāyagā. tū svayam gnātā ho jāyagā, mukti milegī hī. mere pāsase le jānā, usakā artha hī yah hai ki tujhe milegī hī. nishchit kahate haĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- .. phir bhī aisā to lagatā hai ki kuchh na kuchh kachās abhī bhī rahatī hai.

samādhānaḥ- kahīn na kahīn apanī kachās hai. der lage, usamen apane pramādakā kāraṇ ho, kahīn rukatā ho vah kāraṇ ho, apanī samajhamen kachās ho, anek jātakī kachās hotī hai. bahumānakī, anek prakārakī kachās hotī hai. gurukī arpaṇatākī, samajhakī, puruṣhārthakī, anek prakārakī kachās (hotī hai).

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho! mātājīnī amr̥ut vāṇīno jay ho!

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