Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 182.

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આત્માની પ્રાપ્તિ કેમ કરવી?    0   Play
ātmānī prāpti kem karavī?    0   Play

સમ્યગ્દ્રષ્ટિને આત્માની સ્થિતિ કેવી હોય છે?    1:30   Play
samyagdraṣhṭine ātmānī sthiti kevī hoy chhe?    1:30   Play

શું વારંવાર આ જ વિચાર કર્યા કરવા?    5:00   Play
shun vāramvār ā ja vichār karyā karavā?    5:00   Play

પૂજ્ય ગુરુદેવશ્રીએ દિશા બતાવેલ છે    6:25   Play
pūjya gurudevashrīe dishā batāvel chhe    6:25   Play

આ બધું કરવા માટે દોરવણી તો જોઈએને? જાતે જાતે તો ન થાય ને?    8:10   Play
ā badhun karavā māṭe doravaṇī to joīene? jāte jāte to na thāy ne?    8:10   Play

કુટુમ્બીઓ પ્રત્યે બધી ફરજો હોય તોપણ શું ચૈતન્ય સ્વભાવમાં આવી શકે?    8:50   Play
kuṭumbīo pratye badhī pharajo hoy topaṇ shun chaitanya svabhāvamān āvī shake?    8:50   Play

કર્મનો ઉદય થાય ત્યારે કાર્ય થાય કે પોતે તૈયાર થાય તો થાય?    10:50   Play
karmano uday thāy tyāre kārya thāy ke pote taiyār thāy to thāy?    10:50   Play

જુદા જુદા વાડા–પંથ છે તેમાં શું અમુકનું મહાત્મ્ય કરવું જોઈએ?    13:00   Play
judā judā vāḍā–panth chhe temān shun amukanun mahātmya karavun joīe?    13:00   Play

સ્વાઘ્યાય કર્યા પછી અથવા અમુક ભાવ કર્યા પછી તેમાં એવો કોઈ ખ્યાલ આવે છે કે કયાં સુધી?.......    14:55   Play
svāghyāy karyā pachhī athavā amuk bhāv karyā pachhī temān evo koī khyāl āve chhe ke kayān sudhī?.......    14:55   Play

એવું કંઈક ખરું નાની ઉંમરમાં ઓછો ખ્યાલ આવે ને મોટી ઉંમરમાં વધારે ખ્યાલ આવે?    16:50   Play
evun kanīk kharun nānī ummaramān ochho khyāl āve ne moṭī ummaramān vadhāre khyāl āve?    16:50   Play

samādhānaḥ- .. chetan svabhāv, merā svabhāv aisī kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇ usakī lagan lage, kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇ usakā bhedagnān, usakī bhāvanā chālū rakhanī. sahaj to bādamen hotī hai. main yah chaitanya hūn̐, yah main (nahīn hūn̐). svataḥsiddha chaitanya ek dravya hai. us dravyamen ānanda, gnān ādi sab usamen bharā hai. bārabār usakī pahichān karanī chāhiye. pahale yathārtha gnān kare, usakī yathārtha shraddhā kare phir usakī pariṇati bhinna paḍe. yathārtha pratīt pahale andarase honī chāhiye.

mumukṣhuḥ- usakī yathārtha pratīti kaise karanī ki yah vastu yahī hai?

samādhānaḥ- antaramen vichār karake. gurudevane jo mārga batāyā hai, gurudevane jo kahā ki ātmā bhinna hai, usakā vichār karake, andar tattvakā vichār karake yah chaitanya hai vahī main hūn̐, yah main nahīn hū̃n. ye chaitanya svabhāv, ye gnāyak jo antaramen apanā astitva hai vahī main hūn̐, paradravya main nahīn hū̃n. aisī us par dr̥uṣhṭi sthāpit karake, usakī pratīti dr̥uḍh karake phir usakā bhedagnān kare to us bhedagnān karanemen use bal ātā hai, dr̥uḍhatā hotī hai. nahīn to pratītike binā dr̥uḍhatā ātī nahī̃n. isaliye yathārtha pratīti karanī ki yah chaitanya hai vahī main hū̃n. ye sab par hai. usakā vichār karake, tattvakā vichār karake usakā svabhāv pahichāne aur yathārtha pratīti karanī.

mumukṣhuḥ- bahin! samyagdr̥uṣhṭi ātmākī sthiti us vakta kaisī hotī hai?

samādhānaḥ- usakī sthiti koī alag hī hotī hai. usakī dr̥uṣhṭi pūrī badal gayī, usakī dishā badal gayī. use andar bhedagnānakī dhārā sahaj hotī hai. use yād nahīn karanā paḍatā. jis kṣhaṇ vibhāv hotā hai, usī kṣhaṇ use usakā svabhāv bhinna bhāsit hotā hai. usakī dhārā hī alag chalatī hai. usakī gnāyakakī pariṇati alag hī chalatī hai. aur upayog antaramen jāy to use svānubhūti hotī hai. ātmākī anubhūti jo jagatase bhinna hai. jagatamen usakā koī namūnā yā kuchh nahīn hai. ātmā koī alag hī hai, usakī svānubhūti use hotī hai. jaise siddha bhagavān hain, aisī use ānshik svānubhūti hotī hai. usakī dashā pūrī alag hotī hai. aur bāhar upayog ho to bhedagnānakī dhārā to use sahaj vartatī hai. use khāte-pīte, nidrāmen, svapnamen har vakta pratikṣhaṇ bhedagnānakī

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dhārā sahaj vartatī hai. usakī dashā pūrī alag hotī hai. usake jīvanakī dishā palaṭ gayī. antaramense dishā hī palaṭ gayī hotī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- us vakta use kahān̐ suhātā hai?

samādhānaḥ- use ātmākī or hī suhātā hai, kahīn aur nahīn suhātā. usakī pariṇati ātmākī or hī dauḍatī hai. ātmākī or hī usakī pariṇati jātī hai. pariṇati bāhar alparūpase jātī hai, parantu use puruṣhārthake balase svarūp-or hī usakī pariṇati dauḍatī hai. use svarūpamen hī ruchatā hai, kahīn aur use ruchatā nahī̃n. usakī sab dhārā svarūp-or hī jātī hai.

alpa asthiratā hai to usakā puruṣhārtha sahajapane apanī or bahatā hai, gnāyakakī or hī muḍatā hai. ānshik shānti-samādhi aur gnāyakatākī dhārā usakī chālū hī rahatī hai. phir jaise usakī ugratā hotī jāy, vaise use svānubhūti baḍhatī jātī hai. aur bādamen usakī bhūmikā badalatī hai. chhaṭhavān-sātavān guṇasthān munidashā āye to kṣhaṇ- kṣhaṇamen svarūpamen līnatā hotī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- svakī or āneke liye puruṣhārtha kaise karanā?

samādhānaḥ- apanī or main chaitanya hūn̐ aur usakā ras bāharakā kam ho jātā hai. svarūpakī ruchi aur svarūp-orakā ras baḍh jāy to bāharakī pariṇati kam ho jāya. usakā bhedagnān kare ki ye jo bāhar jātā hai, vah vibhāv hai, merā svabhāv hī nahīn hai. vah mujhe sukharūp nahīn hai, vah ākulatārūp hai. sukh aur shānti ho to chaitanyamen hī hai. isaliye chaitanya-orakī aisī dr̥uḍh pratīti ho, us or dr̥uṣhṭi jāy, usakī dishā amuk prakārase bhāvanārūp bhī badale to usakī bāhar jo pariṇati jātī hai vah kam ho jāya. ye sab ākulatārūp hai, shānti aur sukharūp ho to merā ātmā hī hai. aisī use yadi pratīti, ruchi ho to apanī or muḍe.

anādiananta nirmal svabhāv hū̃n. ye sab jo vibhāv dikhatā hai vah sab paryāy hai. andar mūl svabhāvamen nahīn hai. sphaṭikamen jo raṅg-beraṅg dikhate hain, gulābī, kālā, harā, vah usake mūlamen nahīn hai. vaise ye jo vibhāvake raṅg dikhāī dete hain, vah merā svabhāv nahīn hai. main to nirmal svabhāv ātmā hū̃n. aisā antaramen gnān, aisī pratīti, aisī dr̥uṣhṭi ho to apanī or pariṇati muḍe. utanī dr̥uḍhatā ho to.

mumukṣhuḥ- bārambār andar yah vichār karate rahanā?

samādhānaḥ- bārambār karanā. aur vichāramen dr̥uḍhatā na rahe to us prakārakā vāñchan karanā, us prakārakā vichār karanā. ek hī jagah vichār na rahe to use dr̥uḍh rakhaneke liye us prakārakā vāñchan gurudevane kahā hai, shāstrakā abhyās karanā, antaramen vichār

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karanā. parantu ek chaitanya kaise pahachānamen āye aur usakā bhedagnān kaise ho, dhyey vah ek hī honā chāhiye. dev-guru-shāstrakī mahimā (honī chāhiye). ātmā ek mahimāvant koī alag vastu hai. aisī mahimāpūrvak sab vichār vāñchan kare.

mumukṣhuḥ- vr̥utti paramen jātī hai hai.

samādhānaḥ- anādikā abhyās hai aur us prakārakā abhyās dr̥uḍh ho gayā hai. svabhāv apanā hai, sahaj hai. saral hai, lekin abhyās dūsarā-vibhāvakā ho gayā hai. isaliye us or bāharamen anādise dauḍ jātā hai. us sanskārako anādise dr̥uḍh kar liyā hai. isaliye apanī orake sanskārako dr̥uḍh kare, bārambār use dr̥uḍh kare to vibhāv orake sanskār kam ho jāya.

kitane hī jīvoṅko antaramen ruchi pragaṭ huyī. kisīko dishā mālūm nahīn thī. gurudevane dishā batāyī hai. sab kahān̐-ke-kahān̐ bāhar kriyāmen paḍe the. thoḍā bāharakā kar le, thoḍā upavās kar le, thoḍā pratikramaṇ, sāmāyik kar le to dharma ho gayā, aisemen paḍe the. gurudevane kitanī gaharī dr̥uṣhṭi batāyī.

ye vibhāvasvabhāv, shubhabhāv bhī puṇyabandhakā kāraṇ hai. andar tū akhaṇḍa dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi kara. gurudevane to kitanī sūkṣhma gaharī bāt batā dī hai. bīchamen shubhabhāv āye, parantu terā svabhāv to usase nirālā hai. guṇakā gnānakā kar, parantu dr̥uṣhṭi to ek akhaṇḍa par sthāpit kara. gurudevane sabakī dr̥uṣhṭikī dishā pūrī badal dī. karanā to svayaṅko hai.

samādhānaḥ- dev-guru-shāstrakā mujhe ādar hai aur sabako sāthamen rakhatā hū̃n. unake darshan, unakī vāṇī ādi sab mere sāth ho. main jā rahā hūn̐ mere puruṣhārthase. jinendra devakī mahimā, bhagavānakī, gurukī, shāstrakī. bhagavānakī mahimā, jinendra devakī mahimā to karane jaisī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- gurudev aur āpake pratāpase. aisī mān̐ kahīn aur nahīn hotī.

samādhānaḥ- chaitanyakā abhyās baḍh jāy, usakī mahimā baḍh jāy to bāharakā ras kam ho jāya.

mumukṣhuḥ- ... karaneke liye mārgadarshan to chāhiye. apaneāp to hotā nahī̃n.

samādhānaḥ- usake liye satsaṅg ho, guru ho, unakā apūrva upadesh ho. paradeshamen ho vahān̐ samajhanekā kam hotā hai. na ho vahān̐ to apaneāp hī samajhanā paḍatā hai. bākī satsaṅg, sachche guru, unakā apūrva upadesh, vah sab usake sādhan haĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- laṇḍanamen..

samādhānaḥ- mārga jahān̐ prāpta ho vahān̐...

mumukṣhuḥ- kuṭumba pratikī sab pharja ho to bhī chaitanya svabhāvamen svayam ā sakatā hai?

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samādhānaḥ- par jīvonne kahān̐ svayaṅko pratibandhamen rakhā hai? apane rāgake kāraṇ rukatā hai. kar sakatā hai. antaramen apane pariṇāmako koī rok nahīn sakatā. antaramense ātmā apūrva hai, usakā ras toḍ de, sab karake svabhāvako pahichānanekā prayatna kare, vichār kare, vāñchan kare usamen rok nahīn sakatā, koī rokatā nahī̃n. bāharakā kuṭumba koī rokatā nahī̃n.

ye to abhī samajhanekī bāt hai, (āge to) bhedagnān karanekī bāt hai. usakī lagan lagānekī bāt hai. muni bananekī bāt abhī āge hai, abhī to svānubhūti karake bhavakā abhāv ho vah bāt hai, vah to ho sakatā hai. kuṭumbamen paḍā ho to bhī ho sakatā hai. antarakā ras toḍanā apane hāthakī bāt hai. bāhya sanyog use rokate nahī̃n.

... ekatvabuddhi karake bāhya kāyāmen apanā kartavya mān-mānakar svayam rachāpachā rahe to svayam rukatā hai, koī rokatā nahī̃n. svayam ras kam karake virakti karake antaramen svayaṅkā kar sakatā hai. rājāon bhī gr̥uhasthāshramamen rahakar andarase bhinna rahakar ātmākā kar sakate the, ātmākī svānubhūti kar sakate the. sahaj hī chhūṭ jāte the. bāharake kārya use rokate nahīn the, antarase nirlep rahate the.

... sāmagrī kitanī ho to bhī antarase to bhinna hī rahate the. merā ātmā vahī mujhe sarvasva hai. ... antarase vāñchan karanā, vichār karanā, ye sab to...

mumukṣhuḥ- ..

samādhānaḥ- vah koī karmakā uday nahīn hai. svayam kare to hotā hai. sansāramen svayam hī rachāpachā hai aur toḍe to svayam hī chhoḍ sakatā hai. antaramen ekatvabuddhi karake, ras karake yah mujhe karanā chāhiye, yah mujhe honā chāhiye aur ye itanā kar lenā chāhiye, itanā yah chāhiye, itanā bāharakā chāhiye, svayam hī usamen rukā hai. koī rokatā nahī̃n. use uday nahīn rokatā hai. svayam puruṣhārtha karake badal sakatā hai. (uday) use rokatā nahī̃n. uday rokatā ho to koī puruṣhārtha kar hī na sake. gr̥uhasthāshramamen rahakar samyagdarshan prāpta kare, svānubhūti kare, bhinna rahate the, to koī kar hī na sake. udayakā kāraṇ nahīn hai. svayaṅkā kāraṇ hai. apanī bhūlase rakhaḍā hai aur svayam chhūṭ sakatā hai.

ananta kālamen sab milā hai. ek samyagdarshan jīvane prāpta nahīn kiyā hai. vah apūrva hai. anādi kālamen bhagavān nahīn mile haĩn. bhagavān mile to svayanne pahichānā nahīn hai. vah donon apūrva hain, dūsarā kuchh jagatamen apūrva nahīn hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- .. apane karmakā uday āye..

samādhānaḥ- udayase samajhamen nahīn ātā, parantu svayam puruṣhārtha kare. usakā bārambār

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abhyās kare. jabatak samajhamen na āye, jabatak pragaṭ na ho, tabatak usakā abhyās karatā hī rahe. mārga to ek hī hai-chaitanyako pahichānanā, bhedagnān karanā, usakī-nirvikalpa tattvakī svānubhūti jabatak na ho, tabatak usakā abhyās karatā hī rahe, usamen thake nahī̃n. usakā vichār kare, usakā vāñchan kare, bārambār-bārambār karatā hī rahe, jabatak na ho tabataka.

mumukṣhuḥ- itane sāre panth aur bhinna-bhinna sampradāy hain, usamen aisā hai kyā ki amuk hī lenā chāhiye? amukakā hī vāñchan karanā chāhiye aur dūsarekā nahīn karanā chāhiye, aisā hai usamen?

samādhānaḥ- sab sampradāy hai, parantu mārga to ek hī hai. svānubhūtikā panth ātmākā jo pragaṭ karanekā, ātmākā jo svabhāv hai, ātmākā sukh hai use pragaṭ karanekā panth to ek hī hai. jyādā panth ho, matabhed hote hain, usamen satya kyā hai vah svayaṅko nakkī karanā paḍatā hai. jise ātmākā karanā hai, jise jignāsā jāgī hai, jise ātmākā sukh prāpta karanā hai, svayam hī nakkī kare ki kis mārgase ātmākā svarūp prāpta hotā hai? vah svayam hī nakkī kare. kaun-se guru aur kaun-sā panth satya hai, svayam hī nakkī karake us mārga par jāya. usake liye jyādā panth...

koī kahān̐ ruk gayā hotā hai, koī kahān̐ ruk gayā hotā hai. koī paḍhanemen, koī raṭanemen, koī tyāg karanemen, koī kahān̐-koī kahā̃n. parantu antarakī dr̥uṣhṭi kyā? antaramen satya mārga kyā hai, vah mārga to ek hī hotā hai. svayaṅko hī us or muḍanā hai, koī kar nahīn detā. svatantra hai, rakhaḍanemen svayam svatantra aur pragaṭ karanemen bhī svayam svatantra hai. svayam hī nakkī kar le. jise jignāsā jāge vah satya grahaṇ amuk prakārase kar hī letā hai ki yah mārga sachchā hai. use pragaṭ bhale bādamen ho, parantu pahale nakkī kare ki satya to yahī hai. ye guru kahate hain aur ye guru jo mārga batāte hain, vah sachchā hai. aisā svayam nakkī kar sakatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- svādhyāy karaneke bād athavā amuk usakā bhāv karaneke bād usakā koī nāp ātā hai ki kahān̐ tak usakā gnān huā hai?

samādhānaḥ- jabatak svayam yathārtha samajhatā nahīn hai, (tabatak) svādhyā karatā hai, usakā koī nāp nahīn hotā. antaramen prayojanabhūt gnān honā chāhiye. ātmā kaun hai? usakā svabhāv kyā hai? usamen guṇ kyā hai? usakī paryāy kyā? usakā vibhāv kyā? ye pudagal kyā? chaitanya kyā? vah sab samajhaneke liye shāstrakā abhyās hotā hai. antarase yathārtha samajhan ho, samajhaneke liye hai. usakā nāp nahīn hotā ki itanā paḍhanā chāhiye aur itanā dhokhanā chāhiye. prayojanabhūt tattvakī pahichān honī chāhiye.

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... āge nahīn jāy tabatak shāstra abhyās, usakā chintavan, manan hotā hī hai. itanā paḍhanā hī chāhiye yā itanā dhokhanā chāhiye, aisā koī siddhānta nahīn hai. antarase samajhanā chāhiye. thoḍā (prayojanabhūt) samajhe to bhī antarase pragaṭ ho. use thoḍā ātā ho. shivabhūti muni the, unhen kuchh yād nahīn rahatā thā. ātmā bhinna aur yah vibhāv bhinna (hai). itanī samajh huyī to antaramen ūtar gaye.

mumukṣhuḥ- sabamense ek ātmāko bhinna kar lenā..

samādhānaḥ- mā-ruṣh aur mā-tuṣh kahā to utanā bhī yād nahīn rahā. gurudevane kyā kahā, rāg karanā nahīn, dveṣh karanā nahīn, vah yād nahīn rahā. bāī dāl dho rahī thī. mere gurune kahā, ye dāl bhinna, chhilakā bhinna. ātmā bhinna aur vibhāvabhāv bhinna. aisā bhāv grahaṇ kar liyā. andarase bhedagnān kiyā, ātmā bhinna aur yah bhinna hai. aisā karake antarameense (grahaṇ kar liyā). mūl prayojanabhūt grahaṇ karanā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- aisā kuchh hai ki manuṣhyako bachapanamen athavā chhoṭī umramen kam khyāl āye aur baḍī umra ho tab use jyādā bhāv ho?

samādhānaḥ- aisā koī niyam nahīn hotā hai. ūlaṭā chhoṭī umramen bahutoṅko jyādā hotā hai. kisīko baḍī umramen hotā hai, use umrake sāth koī sambandha nahīn hai. umrake sāth kuchh sambandha nahīn hai. ātmā svatantra hai.

jabatak na ho tabatak abhyās karate hī rahanā. jise jo lagan lagī vah chhūṭatī nahī̃n. laukikamen koī ras ho to usake pīchhe lagakar vah kām karatā hī rahatā hai, na ho to bhī. kuchh bhī ho, bāharakī koī kalā sīkhanī ho, kuchh sīkhanā ho to vah karatā hī rahatā hai, jabatak na āye tabataka. vaise isake pīchhe paḍakar usakā abhyās karatā hī rahe. utanā vishvās aur utanī pratīti honī chāhiye ki isī mārgase ātmā pragaṭ honevālā hai.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho!

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