Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 192.

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અનુભવ પહેલા કેવી દશા હોય છે?    0   Play
anubhav pahelā kevī dashā hoy chhe?    0   Play

સાધકને તો વિભાવ આકુળતારૂપ લાગે છે તો શું અનુભવ પહેલા પણ મંદ કષાયમાં આકુળતા લાગે?    4:15   Play
sādhakane to vibhāv ākuḷatārūp lāge chhe to shun anubhav pahelā paṇ mand kaṣhāyamān ākuḷatā lāge?    4:15   Play

જ્ઞાની ધર્માત્મા ભગવાનનું સુખ કેવું હશે તે નક્કી કરી શકે?    5:50   Play
gnānī dharmātmā bhagavānanun sukh kevun hashe te nakkī karī shake?    5:50   Play

સ્વભાવ અને વિભાવ વિષે પ્રશ્ન છે (પ્રશ્ન સમજાતો નથી)    7:15   Play
svabhāv ane vibhāv viṣhe prashna chhe (prashna samajāto nathī)    7:15   Play

સાધકભાવ પણ વ્યવહાર છે. દ્રષ્ટિ તો અખંડ દ્રવ્ય ઉપર રાખવાની છે તે વિષે.    11:40   Play
sādhakabhāv paṇ vyavahār chhe. draṣhṭi to akhaṇḍ dravya upar rākhavānī chhe te viṣhe.    11:40   Play

જાણવાની પર્યાયને કરવી નથી તેનો પણ શું જાણનાર છે ?    15:10   Play
jāṇavānī paryāyane karavī nathī teno paṇ shun jāṇanār chhe ?    15:10   Play

આવું સરસ તત્ત્વ મળ્યું. અમારાથી થઈ શકે તેટલો પ્રયત્ન-ચિંતન-મનન કરીએ પણ છીએ પણ વ્યવહાર- જીવનમાં ખોટું બોલવાના ભાવ, માયાચારીના ભાવ કે જેનાથી સામેના જીવને દુઃખ થશે એવી દરકારનો ભાવ ન રહેતા હોય તો તે આત્મસાધનામાં નડતરરૂપ થાય કે પાત્રતામાં ?    16:50   Play
āvun saras tattva maḷyun. amārāthī thaī shake teṭalo prayatna-chintan-manan karīe paṇ chhīe paṇ vyavahār- jīvanamān khoṭun bolavānā bhāv, māyāchārīnā bhāv ke jenāthī sāmenā jīvane duḥkh thashe evī darakārano bhāv na rahetā hoy to te ātmasādhanāmān naḍatararūp thāy ke pātratāmān ?    16:50   Play

..સિદ્ધ થઈ ગયા પછી ધર્માસ્તિકાય કેવી રીતે મદદ કરે?....    18:10   Play
..siddha thaī gayā pachhī dharmāstikāy kevī rīte madad kare?....    18:10   Play

ભાવલિંગી મુનિએ કમંડલમાંથી કોઈને પાણી આપવું જોઈએ કે નહીં (પ્રશ્નનો સાર)    19:05   Play
bhāvaliṅgī munie kamaṇḍalamānthī koīne pāṇī āpavun joīe ke nahīn (prashnano sār)    19:05   Play

mumukṣhuḥ- anubhūtike pahale kaise...?

samādhānaḥ- anubhūtike pahale to usakī us jātakī lagan, us prakārakī chaṭapaṭī ho, lagan ho, gnāyakako grahaṇ karane orakī usakī pariṇati ho. yah gnāyak hī hai, anya kuchh main nahīn hū̃n. aisā gnāyak orakā nishchay dr̥uḍh karanā chāhiye. bhedagnānakī pariṇati dr̥uḍh karanī chāhiye. ye sab main nahīn hūn̐, main to chaitanya hū̃n. apanā svabhāv antaramense grahaṇ honā chāhiye. svabhāvako grahaṇ kare, bārambār-bārambār chaitanyakī dhūn lage, chaitanyake alāvā kahīn ruche nahī̃n. ek chaitanyamay jīvan kaise ho jāy, aisī apanī dr̥uḍh pariṇati us orakī honī chāhiye. chaitanyakī hī dhūn laganī chāhiye. jāgate-sote chaitanya-chaitanya orakī pariṇati hī jāgr̥ut rahanī chāhiye.

mumukṣhuḥ- ..

samādhānaḥ- vibhāvakī or duḥkh aur svabhāvakā grahaṇ, donon sāthamen (hote hain). svabhāvako grahaṇ karanekā prayatna (honā chāhiye). svabhāvamen hī sarvasva hai, aisā nishchaya. svabhāv grahaṇ karanekī usakī pratīti joradār honī chāhiye aur vibhāvakī or duḥkh lage, donon sāthamen hote haĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- sabhī ātmāoṅko isī prakārakī vidhi, vibhāv pariṇatamen duḥkh lage aur svabhāv or muḍe?

samādhānaḥ- svabhāv grahaṇ karanekī pariṇati. nij svabhāv orakā nishchay aur vibhāvamen duḥkh lage. vibhāv to ākulatārūp hī hai, svayaṅko ākulatā lagatī nahīn hai. usakā svarūp pahachāne ki ye to ākulatā hī hai. svabhāv hai vahī shāntirūp hai. aisā nishchay svayaṅko honā chāhiye. vibhāv or usakī pariṇati ṭik na sake, antarakī or antaramen hī sukh hai. vibhāv hotā hai, parantu usakī ekatvabuddhiko toḍatā jātā hai, svabhāvakī or muḍatā jātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- atīndriy ānandakā svād āne pūrva use shubhabhāvarūp pariṇatimen use ākulatākā vedan hotā hai?

samādhānaḥ- shubhabhāvakī pariṇati hotī to hai, parantu yah merā svabhāv nahīn hai,

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aisā use nishchay hotā hai. use ākulatā to lagatī hai. ye sab merā svabhāv nahīn hai. sabamen ākulatā hai to ākulatā hī lagatī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- yuktise ākulatākā vedan lage yā vāstavamen manda kaṣhāyamen bhī ākulatākā (vedan hotā hai)?

samādhānaḥ- nahīn, yuktise grahaṇ kare lekin use vedanamen bhī aisā lage ki yah ākulatā hai. usamense chhūṭ nahīn sakatā hai, parantu use vedanamen lage ki ye ākulatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- mandamen manda kaṣhāy ho to bhī use us prakārakā vedan hotā hai?

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, vah ākulatā hai. .. kiyā ki yah ākulatā hai aur yah svabhāv hai. aisā nishchay kiyā utanā hī nahīn, apitu use andar vedanamen bhī lagatā hai ki yah ākulatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- khaṭakakā bhī vahī prakār, ākulatākā vedan hotā hai isaliye khaṭak rahā kare.

samādhānaḥ- khaṭak rahā kare ki yah ākulatā hai. lekin vah bīchamen āye binā nahīn rahatā. abhī shuddhātmākā svarūp pragaṭ nahīn huā hai, vahān̐ bīchamen ātā hai. abhī pūrṇatā nahīn hai, bhale bhedagnānakī pariṇati chālū ho to bhī bīchamen shubhabhāv āte haĩn. parantu vah samajhatā hai ki ākulatā hai. ākulatā ākulatārūp vedanamen ātī hai, svabhāv svabhāvarūp vedanamen ātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- prashna to itanā hotā hai ki sādhakako to vaisā honā barābar hai, kyoṅki unhonne to atīndriy ānandakā svād chakhā hai, isaliye ākulatā pratyakṣha lage. parantu usake pahale bhī mithyādr̥uṣhṭikī bhūmikāmen bhī manda kaṣhāyamen bhī vedanamen ākulatā lagatī hai.

samādhānaḥ- use lage. khaṭakakī tīvratā ho jāy to use lage ki yah ākulatā hai. nakkī karatā hai. vah pragaṭ nahīn huā hai to vah antaramen amuk prakārakā vedan pahachānakar nakkī kare to apanese nakkī kiyā aisā kah sakate haĩn. ye abhī vedanamen ātā hai, ye sab pravr̥uttirūp bhāv ākulatārūp hai. ye gnān hai vah shāntirūp hai. amuk prakārase vah yuktimen letā hai, apane vedan parase nakkī kare to usane kuchh yathārtha nakkī kiyā kahanemen āye. ūpar-ūparase nakkī kare vah yathārtharūpase nakkī nahīn huā hai.

svayam apanā svabhāvako pahachānakar, apanā vedan antarase pahachānakar nakkī kare to usane kuchh yathārtha nakkī kiyā hai. isaliye use vedanamen ātā hai ki yah ākulatā hai, yah svabhāv gnān hai vah shāntirūp hai. lekin vah usase chhūṭ nahīn sakatā hai, bhedagnān nahīn hotā hai, parantu vah amuk prakārase nishchay to kar sakatā hai. usake

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svayaṅke vedanamen bhī gnāt ho sake aisā hai ki ye ākulatā hai, ye shānti hai, gnān hai. gnāyakatā hai vah shānti hai. aise.

mumukṣhuḥ- gnānī dharmātmāko-bhagavānako kaisā sukh hogā, vah bhī nakkī ho sakatā hai? vedanase, anumānase.

samādhānaḥ- vedanase nakkī nahīn (kar sakatā), parantu vah anumānase nakkī kar sakatā hai. sukh kaisā ho? us sukhakā vedan svayaṅko nahīn hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- svayaṅko duḥkhakā vedan hai, isase virūddha..

samādhānaḥ- isase virūddha sukh (hai), vah anumānase nakkī kar sake. ākulatāse virūddha nirākulatā, utanā vah nakkī kare. parantu vah ānanda guṇako nakkī karanā vah anumānase nakkī kar sake. ānandaguṇ use kahīn vedanamen nahīn ātā hai. anumānase amuk pramāṇ parase vah nakkī kar sakatā hai. yuktise, svabhāvase amuk nakkī kar sakatā hai. usake vedanamen nahīn ātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ākulatākā to vedan hotā hai, isaliye gnānakī sūkṣhmatā hone par use pakaḍamen ātā hai.

samādhānaḥ- use pakaḍamen ātā hai. sukh pakaḍamen āye ki nirākulatā vah sukh, ākulatā vah duḥkha. parantu ānandaguṇ hai vah use anumānase, amuk pramāṇ parase nakkī kare. jīv ānandako ichchhatā hai, isaliye ātmāmen aisā koī ānandaguṇ hai ki jisakī vah ichchhā karatā hai vah milatā nahīn hai. ātmāmen aisā ānandaguṇakā svabhāv hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- mātājī! andar jo shubhāshubh bhāv hote hain, vah to ..

samādhānaḥ- bhāv jo hote hain use samajhakar, vah bhāv hai vah ākulatākā vedan hai. andar jānanevālā hai vah bhinna hai. shubhāshubh bhāvoṅko jānanevālā bhinna hai aur shubhāshubh bhāv bhinna hai. vedan hotā hai vah to ākulatārūp hai. usase bhinna main chaitanya hūn̐, use jānanevālā bhinna hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- khyālamen ātā hai na ki ye bhāv huā, yah bhāv huā. jo bhāv hote hain vah pakaḍamen āte hain ki aise bhāv hue. jise mālūm paḍatā hai vah main hūn̐, aise?

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, vah jo mālūm paḍatā hai vah main hū̃n. parantu vah mālūm paḍatā hai vah usakī paryāy hai, mūl tattvako grahaṇ karanekā hai. jo mālūm paḍatā hai vah barābar, mālūm paḍatā hai vah gnānakī paryāy hai. jo ye shubhāshubh bhāv hote hain ki yah bhāv āyā, yah bhāv āyā, yah bhāv āyā. vah sab gnānakī paryāy hai. parantu usamen mūl vastu jo anādiananta hai vah gnāyak paripūrṇa hai. ek-ek vastuko jāne,

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ek-ek vikalpako jānanevālā paryāyen huyī, parantu main ek akhaṇḍa gnāyak shāshvat hū̃n. aise akhaṇḍa dravyako grahaṇ karanā. jo mālūm paḍatā hai, us parase usakā pūrṇa astitva grahaṇ karanā.

muumukṣhuḥ- jo mālūm paḍatā hai vah padārtha main hū̃n. samādhānaḥ- hān̐, jo mālūm paḍ rahā hai, vah padārtha main hū̃n. jo khabar karanevālā hai vah mūl vastu anādiananta svataḥsiddha main hū̃n. jo shubhāshubh bhāvoṅko jānanevālā hai, vah khabar karanevālā hai, usakā jo mūl shāshvat astitva hai vah main hū̃n. vah astitva pūrṇa gnāyak hai. us gnāyakamen ananta shaktiyān̐ bharī haiaĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- mālūm paḍanemen astitva mālūm paḍatā hai, bākī dūsare guṇ itane mālūm nahīn paḍate haiain ki dūsare-dūsare guṇ hai, usakā utanā khyāl nahīn ātā hai. mālūm paḍatā hai isaliye .. gnāt hotā hai. parantu dūsare bhī ananta guṇ hain, vah mālūm nahīn paḍate.

samādhānaḥ- vah dikhāī nahīn dete haiaĩn. parantu jo shaktivān padārtha hai, jo gnāyak hai vah ananta shaktise bharapūr ho. jo dravya ho vah khālī nahīn hotā, usamen ananta guṇ hī hote haĩn. dravya usakā nām kahen ki jisamen ananta shaktiyān̐ ho. jisamen amaryādit vastu hai, chāhe jitanā pariṇame to bhī khatma na ho, aisī anantatāse bharā dravya hai. phir usake yukti, pramāṇase nakkī hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- shāntikā to khyāl ātā hai ki jab andar jāte hain tab sukh lagatā hai, bāharamen .. utanā mālūm paḍatā hai. shānti mālūm paḍatī hai ki andar jāte hain to thoḍī..

samādhānaḥ- shānti lagatī hai. ananta guṇ to dikhāī nahīn dete, parantu vah ananta shaktivān padārtha hai. jisamense jo ananta paryāy (hotī hai). gnān hai vah adhūrā nahīn hotā. jo svataḥ gnān, svayam svataḥsiddha vastu hai, vah vastu anādiananta hai. us gnānakī koī maryādā nahīn hotī. aisā gnān amaryādit hai. isaliye amaryādit gnān ho vah ananta shaktise bharā huā gnān hai. aise usamen astitva, vastutva ādi ananta guṇ haĩn. vaise usamen ānandaguṇ hai. vah bhī anantāse bharā hai. is tarah dravya ananta-ananta shaktionse bharā hai. vah dikhatā nahīn hai, vedanamen nahīn ātā hai, parantu usakā anumān ho sakatā hai. aur vah yukti aisī hotī hai ki yathārtha hotī hai. vah svayam nakkī kar sakatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- astitvakā bhī khyāl ātā hai ki merī maujūdagī hai. ... usakā khyāl āye, astitvakā khyāl āye.

samādhānaḥ- astitva, parantu vah astitva anantatāse bharā hai. aisā svayam nakkī

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kare to ho sakatā hai. āchāyāne yuktise, dalīlase (siddha kiyā hai). jo astitva ho vah adhūrā nahīn hotā. pūrṇa ananta svabhāvase bharā hai.

samādhānaḥ- ... anādiananta jaisā hai vaisā gnāyak hai. dr̥uṣhṭi to aisī kara. usakī kr̥utakr̥utya dashā pūrṇa paryāy pragaṭ ho tab ho. nahīn to anādiananta.. dr̥uṣhṭi to chaitanya par svayam jaisā hai vaisā hī hai. usamen koī pheraphār nahīn huā hai. aise dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi kara. svayam jānanevālā hai. sādhakabhāv bhī vyavahār hai. isaliye us prakārase svayam vibhāv kartā nahīn hai. adhūrī paryāy jitanā bhī svayam nahīn hai. adhūrī paryāyen hon, vah bhī apanā mūl svarūp nahīn hai. isaliye tū dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi kara. kṣhayopashamabhāv aur upashamabhāv bhī adhūrī paryāyen haĩn. isaliye tū pūrṇa par dr̥uṣhṭi kara. tū jānanevālā gnāyak hai. āge- pīchhe mainne kuchh sunā nahīn hai, parantu usakā āshay yah hai.

sādhakabhāv bhī vyavahār hai. dr̥uṣhṭi to akhaṇḍa hotī hai. sādhakabhāv bīchamen āye binā rahatā nahī̃n. sādhakabhāv vyavahār hai. isaliye tū akhaṇḍa dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi kara. vah akhaṇḍa hai usamen sāthamen puruṣhārtha ā jātā hai. puruṣhārtha usamen (hai). darshan, gnān, chāritra vyavahār paryāy to adhūrī hai, isaliye usamen puruṣhārtha to karanā hī hai, parantu tū vah sab kartābuddhi chhoḍ de. tū gnātā hai. vah kartābuddhi chhoḍ de. to bhī puruṣhārtha to usamen karanekā rahatā hai.

nishchay aur vyavahār donon jānane yogya hai. dr̥uṣhṭi ek chaitanya par rakha. ādaraṇīy ek chaitanya hai. dr̥uṣhṭike balase puruṣhārtha hotā hai. isaliye tū akhaṇḍa gnāyak hai. sādhakabhāv vyavahār hai. vah bīchamen āye binā rahatā nahī̃n. tū koī bhī paryāy hai, us paryāyakā nishchay dr̥uṣhṭise terā akartāsvabhāv hai, tere svabhāvakā kartā anādiananta pāriṇāmikabhāvase hai. aisā kahanā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- arthāt vahān̐ gnāyakakī dr̥uṣhṭi karāneko....

samādhānaḥ- gnāyakakī dr̥uṣhṭi karaneko. bandha-mokṣhake jo vikalpa āye, vah vikalpa bhī shubhabhāv hai. vah bandha-mokṣhakī jo paryāy hain, vah paryāy bhī pragaṭ hotī hai mokṣhakī. isaliye tū paryāy par dr̥uṣhṭi mat karanā. vah sādhakabhāv bīchamen ātā hai. mokṣha hai vah bhī ek paryāy hai. isaliye tū gnāyak jānanevālā hai, akhaṇḍa shuddhātmā hai. aisā kahanā hai. paryāy jitanā hī terā svarūp nahīn hai. terā svarūp akhaṇḍa hai.

jo bādamen pragaṭ hotā hai, terā mūl svarūp to anādiananta hai. parantu usamen dravyadr̥uṣhṭi kare to hī shuddha paryāy pragaṭ hotī hai. sādhakabhāv to bīchamen ātā hai. sādhakabhāv vyavahār hai, aisā kahanā hai. sab adhūrī paryāy vyavahār hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- yānī vahān̐se lakṣhya chhuḍānā hai.

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samādhānaḥ- lakṣhya chhuḍāte haiaĩn. lakṣhya chhuḍākar akhaṇḍa dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi karavāte haĩn. gnān to sabakā (hotā hai). anādiananta hai us par dr̥uṣhṭi kar, aisā kahanā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- gurudevakī us par bahut prasannatā thī. isaliye lagā, gurudevakā jānanepar bahut (vajan thā).

samādhānaḥ- tū sab jān, tū kartā nahīn hai. jān, gnāyak ho. sab jāna. adhūrī paryāy, pūrṇa paryāy un sabakā tū jānanevālā gnāyak hai. tū sab jāna.

mumukṣhuḥ- jānanekī paryāyako bhī karanī nahīn hai, aise liyā. usakā jānanevālā hai, aise liyā. isaliye bahut..

samādhānaḥ- jānanevālī paryāyakā bhī tū jānanevālā hai. isaliye usamen vyavahār nahīn hai, aisā kahanekā āshay nahīn hai. parantu vastudr̥uṣhṭi karavānī hai. vastukā mūl svarūp batāte haĩn. isaliye vah paryāy ātmāmen nahīn hai, aisā nahī̃n. vah jānanekī paryāy usamen hotī nahīn, aisā nahīn hai. vah sab vyavahār hai, lekin tū dr̥uṣhṭi... mūl vastukā svarūp batāte haĩn. akelā aisā ho to ye bandhake vibhāvabhāv hote hī nahī̃n. to akelī mokṣhakī paryāy ho. yadi aisā ho to ye jānanekā svabhāv jo dikhatā hai, vah bhī... ātmā kuchh jān sake nahī̃n. yadi jānanekā svabhāv hī na ho to. vah sab jānanekī paryāy hai. parantu tū dr̥uṣhṭi tere svakī or kar, aisā kahanā hai.

terā svaparaprakāshak svabhāv hai, parantu dr̥uṣhṭi tere dravya par kar, aisā kahanā hai. āchāryadev, gurudev sab ek hī bāt karate haĩn. dr̥uṣhṭi tū shuddhātmā par kara. paryāy usamen hotī hai, sādhakadashā usamen hotī hai, svaparaprakāshak terā svabhāv hai. parantu dr̥uṣhṭi tū parase haṭākar ek akhaṇḍa gnāyak pāriṇāmikabhāv par kara. pāriṇāmikabhāv arthāt ek bhāv par nahīn, lekin akhaṇḍa dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi kara.

mumukṣhuḥ- itanā tattva milā, ham hamase ho sake utanā prayatna, chintan, manthan sab karate bhī hain, parantu hamāre vyavahārik jīvanamen chalate-phirate, koī jūṭh bolanekā bhāv, māyāchārīke bhāv hote ho, athavā sāmanevāle jīvako duḥkh hogā aisā jānanekī darakārakā bhāv na rahatā ho, vah sab to bāhya hai. to vah ātmasādhanāmen kuchh avarodharūp ho yā pātratākī (kṣhati hai)?

samādhānaḥ- svayam samajh lenā ki kaise bhāv āte haĩn. mumukṣhukī bhūmikāmen ātmārthakā prayojan mukhya (hotā hai). ātmārthīko na shobhe aise maryādā toḍakar aise vichār ātmārthīko hote nahī̃n. aise kārya bhī ātmārthīko nahīn hote. jo ātmārthakā poṣhaṇ ho, ātmārthatākī mukhyatā rahe aise bhāv ātmārthīko hote haĩn. apanī ātmārthatākī maryādā ṭūṭ jāy aise bhāv ātmārthīko hote nahī̃n. phir kaise āte hain, usakā vichār svayaṅko karanā rahatā

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hai. usamen kachās ho to apanī pātratā baḍhānī. ātmārthatākā mukhya prayojan (honā chāhiye). ātmārthatāko koī hāni pahun̐che aisī maryādā toḍakar aise vichār ātmārthīko hote nahī̃n.

mumukṣhuḥ- .. jab mokṣhamen jāte hain, vahān̐ dharmāstikāy, adharmāstikāyakā ant ā jātā hai, vahān̐se āge nahīn jā sakate. barābar? dharmāstikāy jo gatimen udāsīn sahāyatārūp hotā hai, vahān̐ sthir ho jāneke bād dharmāstikāy kaise madad karatā hai?

samādhānaḥ- vah to aisā hai ki jo chalate hue gatimān ho use nimitta hotā hai. gatimān na ho use nimitta hotā hai, aisā nahīn hai. jo gatimen ho use nimitta hotā hai. jo chalaneke bād sthir ho use adharmāstikāy nimitta bane. gatimānako dharmāstikāy nimitta hotā hai. aisā hotā hai. pratyek dravya svatantra hai. ...

mumukṣhuḥ- vihār karate haiain tab ek bhāī chhaṭapaṭāte hain, garmīkā din thā, chhaṭapaṭātā hai aur kahatā hai ki bachāo, bachāo, bachāo, mujhe thoḍā pānī do. bhāvaliṅgīke pās kamaṇḍalu upakaraṇ hotā hai, usamen pānī thā. to unhen denā yogya hai yā ayogya hai? pānī denā chāhiye ki nahīn denā chāhiye? vichitra prashna pūchh rahā hū̃n.

samādhānaḥ- bhāvaliṅgī muni svayam to bhinna hokar svarūpamen līn hokar basate haĩn. sarva prakārake vikalpa chhūṭ gaye haĩn. bhinna ho gaye haĩn. sarva kāyāse chhūṭ gaye haĩn. laukignak kāyāse chhūṭ gaye haĩn. aise kāyāmen unhen us prakārakā vikalpa nahīn ātā hai. unakā upayog bāhar nahīn hotā hai. us jātake kāyāmen ve juḍate nahī̃n. chhūṭ jāte haĩn. yathārtha munidashā chhaṭhaven-sātaven guṇasthānamen jhulate haĩn. aise kāyāse chhūṭ gaye haĩn. vah sab kārya gr̥uhasthoṅke haĩn. us kāryase chhūṭ gayā hai.

jisane yathārtha munipanā aṅgīkār kiyā, chhaṭhaven-sātaven guṇasthānamen jhulate hue, kevalagnānakī talahaṭī, kevalagnān pūrṇa kr̥utakr̥utya dashākī talahaṭīmen khaḍe hain, munidashā yānī chhaṭhaven-sātaven guṇasthānamen jhulate munirāj haĩn. aise bāhya kāyāse chhūṭ gaye haĩn. aur us jātakā vikalpa nahīn hotā hai, bhinna ho gaye haĩn.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho!

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