Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 225.

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જ્યારે ઉપયોગ આને જાણે આને જાણે ત્યારે આપણે ‘આ જ્ઞાયક તે જ હું છું, આ ‘પર જણાય તે હું નથી’ એમ શું ભેદજ્ઞાન કરવું?    0   Play
jyāre upayog āne jāṇe āne jāṇe tyāre āpaṇe ‘ā gnāyak te ja hun chhun, ā ‘par jaṇāy te hun nathī’ em shun bhedagnān karavun?    0   Play

પહેલાં વિકલ્પ થાય પછી તેનો શું અભાવ થઈ જાય    6:25   Play
pahelān vikalpa thāy pachhī teno shun abhāv thaī jāy    6:25   Play

ધીરજથી કાર્ય થાય તે વિષે    6:55   Play
dhīrajathī kārya thāy te viṣhe    6:55   Play

‘અકર્તા’ દ્વારા આત્મા ‘જ્ઞાતા જ છે’ તે પૂજ્ય ગુરુદેવશ્રીનું કહેવું છે તે વિષે.....    7:25   Play
‘akartā’ dvārā ātmā ‘gnātā ja chhe’ te pūjya gurudevashrīnun kahevun chhe te viṣhe.....    7:25   Play

જ્ઞેયકો (પરકો) જાનનેવાલા જ્ઞાન ક્યા આત્માકા લક્ષણ હૈ?    9:00   Play
gneyako (parako) jānanevālā gnān kyā ātmākā lakṣhaṇ hai?    9:00   Play

વૈરાગ્ય–માંગલિક    13:00   Play
vairāgya–māṅgalik    13:00   Play

શરીર ઔર વિભાવસે ભેદજ્ઞાન કરકે સ્વાનુભૂતિ પ્રગટ હોતી હૈ ઉસ સમ્બન્ધી    15:00   Play
sharīr aur vibhāvase bhedagnān karake svānubhūti pragaṭ hotī hai us sambandhī    15:00   Play

જ્ઞાન પરકો જાનતા હૈ, જ્ઞાન સ્વકો જાનતા હૈ, ઔર જ્ઞાન સ્વ-પરપ્રકાશક હૈ . સ્વાનુભવકે સમય છદ્મસ્થદશામેં સ્વ-પરપ્રકાશક તો નહીં બન પાયેગા વહ કૈસે હૈ?    17:25   Play
gnān parako jānatā hai, gnān svako jānatā hai, aur gnān sva-paraprakāshak hai . svānubhavake samay chhadmasthadashāmen sva-paraprakāshak to nahīn ban pāyegā vah kaise hai?    17:25   Play

mumukṣhuḥ- upayog jab ise jāne, use jāne us vakta bhī aisā lenā ki main gnāyak hī hūn̐ aur yah gnāt ho rahā hai, vah main nahīn hū̃n. aise bhedagnānakī prakriyā hai?

samādhānaḥ- aisā vikalpa nahīn hotā, parantu yah gnāyak hai vah main hūn̐, yah gney hai vah main nahīn hū̃n. main gnāyak hūn̐, main jānanevālā hū̃n. ye gney gnānamen gnāt ho rahā hai. ye gney parapadārtha hai, vah main nahīn hū̃n. gney so main nahīn hūn̐, gnān so main hū̃n. gnāyak so main hū̃n.

jo gney dikhatā hai vah main nahīn hū̃n. aur gnān hai vah to dravyakā guṇ hai. gnān guṇ hai aur guṇīko pahachānanā-gnāyak so main hū̃n. gnān ek guṇ hai. usamen lakṣhya- lakṣhaṇakā bhed hai. gneyako jānanevālā gnān aur gnān jisamen rahā hai vah dravya main hū̃n. dravyake andar gnān rahā hai. parantu gnān jisamen rahā hai, aise gnāyakakā astitva hai vah main hū̃n. pūrā gnāyak grahaṇ kare. mātra gnān main nahīn, pūrā gnāyak so main hū̃n. gnān hai vah gnāyakakā guṇ hai.

... antaramen shuddhātmā āve, parantu use aisī bhedagnānakī dhārā pragaṭ ho ki gnāyak hai vahī main hū̃n. aisā bārambār usakā abhyās kare to use svānubhūti ho. aisā bārambār abhyās, kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen aisā abhyās karatā jāy ki main gnāyak hū̃n. gnāyakakī use mahimā āye. ek gnānamātramen kyā? use kuchh rukhā nahīn ho jātā ki gnānamen kuchh nahīn hai. gnāyakamen hī sab bharā hai. gnānamātra ātmāmen sab bharā hai. aisī mahimāpūrvak use gnāyakakā astitva grahaṇ ho aur bārambār usakā abhyās kare to use svānubhūti hotī hai.

... gnān so main, gnān so main usamen gnāyak so main hūn̐, aisā ānā chāhiye. mātra gnān yānī sirpha guṇ nahīn, gnāyak so main hū̃n.

mumukṣhuḥ- ananta guṇakā piṇḍa aisā jo gnāyak hai vah maĩn. vahān̐ le jānā.

samādhānaḥ- vahān̐ le jānā. ananta guṇakā use bhed nahīn ātā hai, parantu usakī mahimāmen aisā ātā hai ki ananta guṇase bharā jo gnāyak hai, anantatāse (bharā) gnāyak so main hū̃n.

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... pīlāpan hai, chīkanāpan hai, suvarṇa aisā hai, athavā hīrā aisā hai, aisā usakā prakāsh hai, shvet hai, vah sab guṇ hai. parantu pūrṇa hīrā so main, pūrṇa suvarṇa so maĩn. aise gnānamen ek gnānaguṇ jāne vah main, aisā nahīn, jānanevālekā pūrṇa astitva hai vah main hū̃n.

mumukṣhuḥ- bahut sundar spaṣhṭīkaraṇ āyā. bahut samayase aisā lagatā thā ki gurudev ātmākā svabhāv gnān to kahate hain, parantu use koī kāryasiddhi to hotī nahīn, parantu yah ek bahut baḍī bhūl hotī hai.

samādhānaḥ- mātra gneyako jānane vah gnān, is tarah gnān nahīn, parantu pūrā dravya gnāyaka. vah gnān kisake ādhārase rahā hai? us gnānako ādhār kisakā hai? pūrā dravya hai. gnān ek pūrā astitva hai, gnāyak ananta guṇase gun̐thā huā gnāyakakā pūrā astitva hai vah main hū̃n.

mumukṣhuḥ- mātra ek guṇ main nahīn, parantu ananta guṇakā piṇḍa aisā jo dravya, aisā merā astitva hai, vah main hū̃n.

samādhānaḥ- aisā merā astitva hai vah main hū̃n. pīlā utanā sonā nahīn, parantu sonemen dūsare bahut guṇ hain, aisā sonekā pūrā astitva hai vah sonā hai. aise gnāyak hai vah ananta guṇase bharā huā ek dravya hai, vah main hū̃n. gnān kahakar gurudevako, āchāryadevako gnān kahakar gnāyak kahanā hai. gnānaguṇ asādhāraṇ hai isaliye gnān dvārā pahachān karavāte haiain ki gnān so maĩn. gnān hai vah tū hai, aise pahachān karavāte haĩn. lakṣhaṇase lakṣhyakī pahachān karavāte haĩn. āchāryadev aur gurudevako yahī kahanā hai ki gnān hai vah tū hai arthāt gnāyak hai vah tū hai, aisā kahanā chāhate haĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- kahanekā bhāvārtha yah hai ki gnāyak so maĩn.

samādhānaḥ- gnāyak hai vah tū hai, aisā kahanā chāhate hain, gnān kahakara. kyoṅki gnān sabako gnāt ho sakatā hai, gnān asadhāraṇ guṇ hai isaliye lakṣhaṇ dvārā lakṣhyakī pahachān karavāte haĩn. gurudev aisā kahate the aur shāstrommen bhī (aisā hī kahanā hai). gurudevane shāstroṅke rahasya khole haĩn. gnān kahakar gnāyak kahanā chāhate the.

mumukṣhuḥ- bahut sundar bāt āyī. gnān kahakar gurudev bhī gnāyak hī kahate the.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, gurudev, gnān kahakar gnāyak kahate the. ātā hai, "isamen sadā rativant ban'. jitanā gnānamātra hai utanā tū hai. usamen sadā ruchi kar, usamen santuṣhṭa ho, usamen tr̥upta ho. jitanā gnānamātra ātmā utanā tū. jitanā paramārtha gnānasvarūp ātmā hai vah tū hai. gnānamātra kahakar gnāyak hai vah tū hai, aisā kahanā chāhate haĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- utanā satyārtha..

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samādhānaḥ- utanā hī satyārtha paramārtha hai, jitanā gnān hai. usamen tr̥upta ho, usamen santuṣhṭa ho.

mumukṣhuḥ- isamen sadā rativant ban, isamen sadā santuṣhṭa re. aisī gāthā hai.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, "isase hī ban tū tr̥upta, uttam saukhya ho jisase tujhe.' aur gurudev bhī yahī kahate the ki gnān hai vah tū hai. arthāt gnāyak so tū hai. gnānamātramen sab ā gayā. gnānamātramen āchāryadev kahate hain, sab ā gayā. usamen tr̥upta ho, usamen santuṣhṭa ho, tujhe sukh (prāpta hogā). gnānamātra kahakar gnāyak kahate haĩn. usamen ananta guṇ bhare hain, usamen ananta ānanda bharā hai. sab usamen bharā hai. ataḥ asādhāraṇ ātmākā gnānaguṇ jo lakṣhaṇ tujhe pahachānamen ātā hai, us lakṣhaṇ dvārā lakṣhyako pahachān le. bas! usīmen sab bharā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- akele gnānako mukhya karake bāt kī hai, parantu ananta guṇakā piṇḍa aisā jo gnāyak, use dr̥uṣhṭimen leneke liye vah darshāyā hai.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, use dr̥uṣhṭimen leneke liye, pūrā gnāyak grahaṇ karaneke liye. ananta guṇakā astitva gnāyakarūp hai, use grahaṇ kara. gnāyak, usamen pūrā dravya ā jātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- pahale vikalpa ho, bādamen vikalpakā abhāv ho jātā hai?

samādhānaḥ- pahale nirvikalpa tattvakī yathārtha pratīti hotī hai ki yah gnāyak hai vah main hū̃n. aisī yathārtha pratīti hotī hai. bīchamen vikalpa to hote hain, parantu bārambār usakā abhyās kare, usakī līnatā kare, usakī pratītiko dr̥uḍh kare to nirvikalpa hotā hai. bārambār usakī bhedagnānakī dhārā ugra kare to nirvikalpa ho.

mumukṣhuḥ- utāvalīse..

samādhānaḥ- utāvalīse nahī̃n. dhairya, shānti, bhāvanāse aur jignāsāse. ākulatāse nahīn, parantu usakī bhāvanā ugra ho, jignāsā ho, parantu dhairyase puruṣhārtha kare. ākulatā karane-se nahīn hotā. bārambār gurudevake upadeshamen vahī ātā thā.

mumukṣhuḥ- kuchh bhī paḍhe, das paṅkti paḍhe, lekin usamen-se mukhya bāt yah āye, pūrā pravachan paḍhe to bhī yahī bāt āye. kartr̥utvakī bāt kahīn āye hī nahī̃n. gnānakī bāt āye. isamen-se paddhati kyā? āj bahut achchhā spaṣhṭīkaraṇ huā.

samādhānaḥ- tū kartā nahīn hai, parantu gnātā hai aisā āye. tū gnānako grahaṇ kara.

mumukṣhuḥ- ... vaise to kartābuddhi manda paḍatī hai. parantu jānatā hūn̐, vah to merā svabhāv hai. phir bhī koī kāryasiddhi to hotī nahīn hai. bahut samayase yah abhyās karate ho. lekin yah bāt satya hai ki gurudevane gnān dvārā gnāyakako hī darshāyā hai. bahut sundara.

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samādhānaḥ- gnāyak darshāyā hai. kartābuddhi, use sthūlapane lage ki main kar nahīn sakatā hū̃n. parantu andaramen jabatak gnāyak gnāyakarūp nahīn huā hai, tabatak use antaramen kartābuddhi paḍī hai. usake abhiprāyamẽn. jo-jo vikalpa āye, vikalpake sāth usakī kartābuddhi juḍī hai. jab yathārtha gnāyak gnāyakarūp pariṇame, gnātā ho, tab use kartr̥utva chhūṭatā hai. tab usakī svāmitvabuddhi yathārtha rūpase antaramen-se tab chhūṭatī hai. pahale use vichārase chhūṭe ki main kartā nahīn hū̃n. main jānanevālā hū̃n. parantu antaramen jab yathārtha pariṇaman ho-gnāyak gnāyakarūp ho-tab usakā kartr̥utva chhūṭatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- sabako jānanevālā gnān ātmākā lakṣhaṇ hai?

samādhānaḥ- vah ātmākā lakṣhaṇ to hai, gneyako jānatā hai vah gnān to hai, parantu vah dr̥uṣhṭikī bhūl hai ki main gneyako jānatā hū̃n. dr̥uṣhṭikī bhūl hai. gnān to gnān hai, usamen dr̥uṣhṭikī bhūl hai. ātmākā lakṣhaṇ to hai, lekin dr̥uṣhṭikī bhūl hai ki main gneyako... rāgamishrit ho jātā hai. usamen rāgako dūr karake, gneyako bhinna karake akele gnānako grahaṇ kare to gnān lakṣhaṇ to ātmākā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- usase bhinnatā kaiso hogī gneyākār gnānase? jo sāmānya gnān hai. āpakā kahanā aisā hai ki sāmānya gnān ātmākā lakṣhaṇ hai. gneyākār gneyamishrit jo hai vah ātmākā lakṣhaṇ nahīn hai.

samādhānaḥ- nahī̃n. bhinna-bhinnatāvālā gnān, vah gnān merā mūl lakṣhaṇ nahīn hai. mūl lakṣhaṇ to ek jāṇak tattva, jānanevālā tattva hai vah main hū̃n. usako grahaṇ karanā. jānanevālā jo sāmānya jānanevālā.. jānanevālā.. jānanevālā jo vastukā mūl svabhāv hai usako grahaṇ karanā, usakā astitva grahaṇ karanā. usamen is gneyako jānā, is gneyako jānā aisā nahī̃n. svataḥsiddha jānanevālā hai. ananta shakti jisamen jānanekī hai, vah jānanevālā tattva hai vah main hū̃n. usako grahaṇ karanā.

mumukṣhuḥ- jo jānanevālā tattva hai, vah to lakṣhya ho gayā.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, lakṣhya.

mumukṣhuḥ- aur lakṣhaṇ kyā hai? gnānasāmānya, gneyākār gnān nahīn? gneyākāramen jo sāmānya gnān hai (vah)?

samādhānaḥ- sāmānyako grahaṇ karanā. visheṣh grahaṇ nahīn karake, visheṣh dvārā sāmānyako grahaṇ karanā. jo dr̥uṣhṭānta ātā hai na? bādalamen jo prakāshake kiraṇ dikhāī dete hain, us kiraṇake pīchhe pūrā sūrya akhaṇḍa hai, usako grahaṇ karanā. kṣhayopasham gnānakā bhed jo dekhanemen ātā hai, us bhedako grahaṇ nahīn karake mūl sūryako grahaṇ karanā. bādalamen jo kiraṇen hain, vah hai to sūryake kiraṇ, parantu bhed-bhed kiraṇ mātra mūl vastu nahīn

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hai. mūl vastu pūrā dravya (nahīn hai). vah kiraṇ kahān̐-se nikalatā hai? us dravyako grahaṇ karanā.

jo bādal hai, usamen jo prakāshakī kiraṇen dikhatī hain, (vah mūl vastu nahīn hai). mūl sūryako grahaṇ karanā. prakāshake kiraṇ use chhinna-bhinna nahīn karate. vah prakāsh sūryako dikhāte haĩn. usako dikhāte haĩn. aise kṣhayopashamagnānake bhed hain, vah mūl vastuko dikhāte haĩn. usako grahaṇ karanā.

mumukṣhuḥ- khaṇḍa khaṇḍa gnān bhī akhaṇḍa vastuko dikhātā hai.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, akhaṇḍa vastuko dikhātā hai, usako grahaṇ karanā.

mumukṣhuḥ- to khaṇḍa khaṇḍa gnānako nā dekhakarake akhaṇḍa ātmāko dekhanā.

samādhānaḥ- akhaṇḍa ātmāko dekhanā chāhiye.

mumukṣhuḥ- khaṇḍa khaṇḍa gnānake dvārā akhaṇḍa ātmā dekhā jā sakatā hai?

samādhānaḥ- dekh sakatā hai. dr̥uṣhṭi akhaṇḍa par (jātī hai). dekh sakatā hai. usakā abhinandan karate hain, akhaṇḍako toḍatā nahīn hai, vah akhaṇḍako dikhā sakatā hai. lakṣhaṇ dvārā lakṣhya dekhanemen ātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- khaṇḍa khaṇḍa gnānake dvārā akhaṇḍa ātmā jānā jā sakatā hai?

samādhānaḥ- jān sakatā hai. lakṣhaṇase lakṣhya pahachānanemen ātā hai. khaṇḍa khaṇḍa gnānase dikhanemen na āve to svayam.. lakṣhaṇ aur lakṣhya, vah to gnānakā lakṣhaṇ hai. vah to svataḥsiddha apane-se apaneko jānanā. khaṇḍako gauṇ karake jāno to apane āpase apaneko jānā. parantu vyavahār-se lo to khaṇḍase akhaṇḍa jānā jātā hai. vyavahārase aisā bīchamen khaṇḍa ātā hai.

samādhānaḥ- ... vedanā bhinna aur ātmā bhinna hai. ātmākā smaraṇ karanā. gnāyak ātmā hai usakā bhedagnānakā prayatna karanā. yah karanekā gurudevane kahā hai. vikalpase bhinna ātmā hai use pahachānanekā prayatna karanā. vedanā sharīramen ātī hai, ātmāmen ātī nahīn hai. ātmā tattva atyant bhinna hai. dev-guuru-shāstrake sānnidhyamen to āp pahale- se rahe ho. aur vahī sanskār (hai), sachamūchamen to vahī karanekā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- unakī sharaṇ hai aur āpakī sharaṇ hai.

samādhānaḥ- ye sab vāṇī milī, vah mahābhāgyakī bāt hai. aisī vāṇī milanī aur aisā mārga batānevāle guru milanā mushkil hai. gurudevane kahā, ek chaitanya ātmākā ālamban karanā. bākī sab to vibhāv hai, vikalpa hai. usakā ālamban (chhoḍanā). usamen gnān, ānanda sab bharā hai.

chattārī maṅgalan, arihantā maṅgalan, sāhū maṅgalan, kevalipaṇatto dhammo maṅgalan.

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chattārī loguttamā, arihantā loguttamā, siddhā loguttamā, sāhū loguttamā, kevalipaṇatto dhammo loguttamā.

chattārī sharaṇan pavajjāmi, arihantā sharaṇan pavajjāmi, siddhā sharaṇan pavajjāmi, kevalī paṇatto dhammo sharaṇan pavajjāmi.

chār sharaṇ, chār maṅgal, chār uttam kare je, bhavasāgarathī tare te sakaḷ karmano āṇe anta. mokṣha taṇā sukh le anant, bhāv dharīne je guṇ gāye, te jīv tarīne muktie jāya. sansāramānhī sharaṇ chār, avar sharaṇ nahīn koī. je nar-nārī ādare tene akṣhay avichal pad hoya. aṅgūṭhe amr̥ut varase labdhi taṇā bhaṇḍāra. guru gautamane samarīe to sadāy manavāñchhit phal dātā.

samādhānaḥ- ... phir usamen līnatā ho, usamen sthir ho jāy to vikalpa ṭūṭakar svānubhūti hotī hai. lekin usakā bhedagnān karanā chāhiye. anādi kālase ekatvabuddhikā abhyās hai. yah sharīr main hūn̐, yah merā hai, aisī ekatvabuddhi hai. vibhāv main hūn̐, vibhāv merā svabhāv hai, aisī ekatvabuddhi ho rahī hai. sab vikalpa dekhanemen āte hain, chaitanya dekhanemen nahīn ātā hai. chaitanyako dekhanā chāhiye. chaitanyakī pratīti aur chaitanya apanā svabhāv, usako khyālamen lenā chāhiye.

usakā-chaitanya tattvakā kaise darshan hove? aisī pratīti kar, aisā bharosā kar, usamen sthir ho jānā to chaitanyatattvakī svānubhūti aur usakā darshan hotā hai. aisā prayog hai. usakī pratīti karanā, gnān karanā, bhedagnān karanā. bhedagnānakā bārambār abhyās karanā. main chaitanya hūn̐, chaitanya hūn̐, chaitanya hūn̐ aisā bhītaramen-se tattvamen-se pahachān karake usakā abhyās karanā chāhiye. to svānubhūti hotī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- vichār, vikalpamen to main chaitanya hūn̐, chaitanya hūn̐, jaisā āpane pharamāyā, dhyānake kālamen baiṭhaneke liye karate haĩn. chaitanya hūn̐, chaitanya hūn̐ sūkṣhma andaramen vahīkā vahī raṭan chalate rahatā hai. parantu jo anubhūti āpane kī hai, aisā (kuchh hotā nahīn).

samādhānaḥ- yathārtha svabhāvamen-se honā chāhiye. vikalpa to bīchamen ātā hai, parantu vikalpa to sthūl hai. bhītaramen jo chaitanyakā svabhāv hai vah main hū̃n. chaitanyakā astitva grahaṇ karanā chāhiye. main chaitanyatattva, usakā astitva grahaṇ karake usamen sthir honā chāhiye. vikalpamātra vikalpa-vikalpa to bīchamen ātā hai, parantu vāstavamen usakā astitva grahaṇ karake usamen sthir honā chāhiye.

vah nahīn hove tabatak usakā bārambār-bārambār abhyās karanā chāhiye. usake liye tattvakā vichār, shāstra svādhyāy ādi sab chaitanyatattvako pahachānaneke liye karanā chāhiye. bhedagnānakā abhyāsa. chaitanyakī svānubhūti kaise ho, usake liye karanā chāhiye.

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mumukṣhuḥ- dūsarā ek usamen ātā hai, gnān parako jānatā hai, gnān svako jānatā hai aur gnān sva-parako jānatā hai. to tīn prakārakā aisā gnānakā pariṇamanake kālamen (hotā hai). to svānubhavake andar jo chhadmastha avasthā hai, to svaparaprakāshakapanā to svānubhavamen nahīn ban pāyagā, vah kaise hogā?

samādhānaḥ- par-or upayog nahīn hai. isaliye paragneyako nahīn jānatā hai. parantu apane svamen upayog hai, sva padārthako jānatā hai. apane ananta guṇ aur apanī paryāyako jānatā hai. isaliye svaparaprakāshak apanemen hotā hai. gney to bāhya upayog nahīn hai isaliye nahīn jānatā hai. apanemen jo ananta guṇ aur apanī paryāyako jānatā hai. padārtha aur apane guṇ-paryāy, aisā svaparaprakāshak anubhavake kālamen aisā svaparaprakāshak hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- us kālamen sva hī āyā.

samādhānaḥ- sva āyā. parantu guṇako aur paryāyako jānatā hai, isaliye usako svaparaprakāshak kahanemen āyā. is apekṣhāse kahanemen ātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- lokālokakā aur svakā gnānachetanā ananta guṇamayakā to kevalagnānādi pratyakṣha..

samādhānaḥ- vah to kevalagnānamen hotā hai. chhadmasthakā upayog bāharamen jāy to bhītar antaramen ātā hai. to bāharakā upayog nahīn hai. isaliye parako nahīn jānatā hai, svako jānatā hai. parantu apane guṇ-paryāyako jānatā hai. kevalagnān to vītarāg ho gayā isaliye apane ananta guṇ-paryāy aur parake ananta guṇ-paryāy, sabako jānatā hai. usako upayog denā nahīn paḍatā, vah to sahaj jānatā hai. sahaj pariṇati ho gayī, apanemen līn ho gayā. gnānakā jaisā svabhāv hai, vaisā jānanekā svabhāv pragaṭ ho gayā. to kram-kramase upayog denā paḍatā hai (aisā nahīn rahā), kram-kramase upayog kevalagnānīko denā nahīn paḍatā. isaliye sahaj apane svarūpamen rahakar sab sahaj jānatā hai. upayog denā nahīn paḍatā. upayog nahīn dete hain, to bhī jānate haĩn. aisā pratyakṣha gnān ho gayā. kram-kram upayog nahīn denā paḍatā.

chhadmasthako kram-kramase upayog detā hai, isaliye aisā kram paḍatā hai. bāhyako jāne, bāhar lakṣhya nahīn hove tab bhītarako jānatā hai. chhadmasthako upayog kram-kramase hotā hai na. ek kram paḍatā hai to bāharako jānatā hai. antaramen jāne to bāhar upayogamen kram paḍatā hai. kevalagnānīko kram nahīn paḍatā hai. lekin usakā svabhāv jo svaparaprakāshak hai usakā nāsh nahīn hotā. vah to kevalagnānamen pratyakṣha ho gayā. parantu chhadmastha avasthāmen svaparaprakāshakakā nāsh nahīn hotā hai. badalatā hai. bāharamen jāy to bāharako jānā, antaramen jāy to antarako jānā.

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mumukṣhuḥ- kramikarūpase kārya karatā hai. samādhānaḥ- hān̐, kramarūp kārya karatā hai, kramarūp kārya karatā hai. ekasāth kārya karatā hai to sva-par donoṅkā jānatā hai. isamen kram paḍatā hai, isaliye nahīn jānatā hai. parantu bhītaramen apane ananta guṇ aur ananta paryāy jo svānubhūtimen hote hain guṇ- paryāy, usako to jānatā hai. usakā vedan hotā hai. vah to jānatā hai, svānubhūtimẽn.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho!

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