Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 243.

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સત્પુરુષકી પૂર્ણ આજ્ઞા માનની ચાહિયે, તો આજ્ઞા કિતની પ્રકારકી હોતી હૈ? કોઈ ભી પ્રકારકી અસાવધાની રહ જાતી હૈ તો ક્યા મુમુક્ષુ કલ્યાણકે યોગ્ય હૈ યા નહીં?    0   Play
satpuruṣhakī pūrṇa āgnā mānanī chāhiye, to āgnā kitanī prakārakī hotī hai? koī bhī prakārakī asāvadhānī rah jātī hai to kyā mumukṣhu kalyāṇake yogya hai yā nahīn?    0   Play

ક્યા ૪૭ શક્તિયાઁકી બારબાર સ્મરણ કરનેસે સ્વભાવકી મહિમા આતી હૈ?    2:45   Play
kyā 47 shaktiyān̐kī bārabār smaraṇ karanese svabhāvakī mahimā ātī hai?    2:45   Play

બધી અપેક્ષાનો મેળ કરી સમજવું તે વિષે....    5:45   Play
badhī apekṣhāno meḷ karī samajavun te viṣhe....    5:45   Play

પર્યાયકો ગૌણ કરકે ભિન્ન કહી જાતી હૈ યા ક્યા વાસ્તવમેં ભિન્ન હોકર દૃષ્ટિકા વિષય બનતી હૈ?    7:55   Play
paryāyako gauṇ karake bhinna kahī jātī hai yā kyā vāstavamen bhinna hokar dr̥uṣhṭikā viṣhay banatī hai?    7:55   Play

પૂજ્ય ગુરુદેવશ્રીને ફરમાયા કિ સમ્યગ્દર્શનકે વિષયમેં સમ્યગ્દર્શનકી પર્યાય નહીં હૈ?    9:15   Play
pūjya gurudevashrīne faramāyā ki samyagdarshanake viṣhayamen samyagdarshanakī paryāy nahīn hai?    9:15   Play

કરને લાયક તો સબ આત્મામેં હૈ, બાહરમેં કુછ નહીં હૈ ઉસ સમ્બન્ધી    10:35   Play
karane lāyak to sab ātmāmen hai, bāharamen kuchh nahīn hai us sambandhī    10:35   Play

ક્રમબદ્ધપર્યાય સમ્બન્ધી...    11:50   Play
kramabaddhaparyāy sambandhī...    11:50   Play

માતાજી પર્યાયમેં અલ્પજ્ઞતા હૈ તો દ્રવ્ય સ્વભાવમેં વિશ્ચાસ કૈસે આવે?    13:05   Play
mātājī paryāyamen alpagnatā hai to dravya svabhāvamen vishchās kaise āve?    13:05   Play

હમેં ઇન્દ્રિયજ્ઞાન તો હૈ અતીન્દ્રિય કૈસે હોવે?    14:00   Play
hamen indriyagnān to hai atīndriy kaise hove?    14:00   Play

પૂજ્ય ગુરુદેવશ્રી કહતે થે કિ ઇન્દ્રિયજ્ઞાન પરકો જાનતા નહીં હૈ?    15:15   Play
pūjya gurudevashrī kahate the ki indriyagnān parako jānatā nahīn hai?    15:15   Play

પૂજ્ય માતાજી! આબાલ-ગોપાલ સભીકો ભગવાન આત્મા જાનનેમેં આ રહા હૈ થોડાસા સ્પષ્ટ કરેં?    16:25   Play
pūjya mātājī! ābāl-gopāl sabhīko bhagavān ātmā jānanemen ā rahā hai thoḍāsā spaṣhṭa karen?    16:25   Play

mumukṣhuḥ- ... satpuruṣhakī sab āgnā mānanā chāhiye. to āgnā kitanī-kitanī prakārakī hotī hai? kyoṅki ve kahate hain ki koī prakārakī bhī apātratā rah jātī hai to mumukṣhu kalyāṇake yogya nahīn hotā hai.

samādhānaḥ- kitane prakārakī āgnā kyā? satpuruṣhakī āgnā to apanī pātratā dekhakar āgnā karate haĩn. āgnā kitane prakārakī hotī hai? .. gnānīkā āshay grahaṇ karanā chāhiye. gnānī kahate hain, kyā kahate hain? āshay grahaṇ karake apanī pariṇati pragaṭ karanā chāhiye. anek jātamen kahān̐-kahān̐ jīv ruk jātā hai. svachchhanda, matāgrah, apanī mānī huyī kalpanāommen (aṭak jātā hai). satpuruṣhakā āshaya3 kyā hai, vah āshay grahaṇ karake vastukā svarūp samajhanā chāhiye. yathārtha samajhakarake kyā karanā chāhiye usakā āshay grahaṇ karanā chāhiye. ve kyā kahate hain?

svayam nirṇay kare use satpuruṣhake āshayake sāth milān karanā. gnānīkā kyā āshay hai? main kyā mānatā hūn̐? āshay yathārthapane jo nirṇay karatā hai, usake sāth milān karatā hai. kyā kahate hain, yah samajhanā chāhiye. us prakār apanī pariṇati pragaṭ karanī chāhiye. ve kahate hain, us prakār-se. ... grahaṇ karake apanī pariṇati pragaṭ karanā chāhiye. puruṣhārtha karanā chāhiye. puruṣhārthakī mandatā hove to gnānī jo kahate hain us par pratīt karanī chāhiye. aur bhāvanā rakhanī chāhiye ki main kaise āge jāūn̐? aisā puruṣhārtha karanā chāhiye.

apane matamān kahīn na kahīn aṭak jātā hai. gnānīkā āshay kyā hai? dev-shāstra- guru kyā kahate hain? use grahaṇ karake us anusār apanī pariṇatiko, apane puruṣhārthako us anusār chālū kare to yathārtha mārga use pragaṭ hotā hai. usakā āshay grahaṇ karanā chāhiye. chāron taraph-se gnānī kyā kahate hain? unakā āshay kyā hai? use grahaṇ karake apanī pariṇati kar lenī chāhiye.

... vah gnānīkā āshay grahaṇ kar letā hai. dev-guru-shāstra kyā kahate hain, vah grahaṇ kar sakatā hai. usakī pātratā aisī hotī hai. yadi pātratā nahīn hove to apanī mati kalpanā-se ruk jātā hai.

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mumukṣhuḥ- 47 shaktioṅkā smaraṇ karate haĩn. apane svabhāvakī mahimā lāneke liye kyā bārambār shaktiyoṅkā smaraṇ karanā chāhiye? usase svabhāvakī mahimā...

samādhānaḥ- ... smaraṇ karatā hai... mumukṣhuko kyā karanā? gnānī kyā kahate hain, usakā āshay grahaṇ karanā chāhiye. ve aisā karate the, isaliye hamen bhī aisā karanā chāhiye, aisā artha nahīn hai. shaktiyoṅko grahaṇ karanemen to usakā lābh hai, koī nukasān nahīn hai. 47 shaktikā smaraṇ karake usakā abhyās kare to ātma svarūpakī mahimā ātī hai. aisā karanemen kuchh (dikkat nahīn hai), kar sakatā hai. usamen koī aisā nahīn hotā.

gurudev aisā karate the, isaliye aisā karanā, aisā kuchh nahīn hai. jisako jo ruche so karanā. koī gnāyak-gnāyak karatā hai, to bhedagnān karanekā abhyās karanā. usake sāth shāstramen kyā (kahā hai)? svayaṅko shaṅkā ho to niḥshaṅk honeke liye koī tattva vichār svayaṅko jo ruche so karanā. gurudev aisā karate the isaliye aisā karanā, usakā koī artha nahīn hai. svayaṅko yadi usamen mahimā ātī hai to vah karanā. usamen to lābh hai. apaneko lābh lage to vah karanā. mujhe kisamen ras ātā hai, us anusār karanā.

mujhe kyā smaraṇ karanā? mujhe gnāyakakā abhyās karaneke liye kisakā smaraṇ karanā? chaitanyakī shaktiyān̐ vichāranī. 47 shaktiyān̐ vichāranī, gnāyakakā vichār karanā, usakā satya svarūp kyā? shāstra anek prakār kyā āte hain? svayaṅko jahān̐ ruchi ho vah karanā.

gurudev to mahāpuruṣh thā. unakī pariṇatimen jo unhen lagatā thā vah karate the, isaliye dūsaroṅko aise hī karanā, aisā usakā artha nahīn hai. unakā shrutagnān to apūrva thā. unhen to shrutakī dhārā apūrva thī. anek jātakī unhen shrutakī labdhiyān̐ pragaṭ huyī thī. unhen usamen ras ātā thā to aisā karate the. isaliye sabako aisā karanā aisā usakā artha nahīn hai. ve to aisā vichār karate the, bākī to anek jātakā chintavan unhen chalatā thā. vah ek hī chintavan thā, aisā nahīn hai. unhen to anek jātakā (chintavan chalatā thā). unhonne to shāstroṅke shāstra khol diye. shāstroṅkā rahasya khol diyā. unhen to andar shāstroṅkā samudra khulā thā.

usamen-se ve bārambār usakā smaraṇ karate the. unhen usamen ras ātā thā. unhen andar shāstramen-se ānanda ātā thā. ek 47 shaktiyāen̐ke liye nahīn, kitanī gāthāoṅkā unhen ānanda ātā thā.

mumukṣhuḥ- bahut gāthāmen kahate the, yah gāthā to apūrva hai, yah gāthā to apūrva hai.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, unhen to bahut gāthāoṅkā ānanda ātā thā.

mumukṣhuḥ- bahut apekṣhāen̐ ātī hain, ... buddhi to thoḍī hai, apekṣhāen̐ bahut hain,

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usake liye kyā upāy hai?

samādhānaḥ- apekṣhāen̐ bahut haĩn. mūl dravyadr̥uṣhṭikā prayojan, muktikā mārga jisase sadhe vah grahaṇ karanā. dravya-paryāyakā, nishchay-vyavahārakā sambandha kaise hai, vah vichāranā. main shāshvat anādiananta dravya hūn̐, usamen paryāyakī sādhanā kaise hove? paryāy adhūrī hai, dravya pūrṇa hai, usakā mel kaise hove? yah sab sandha karake, shāstramen bahut apekṣhāen̐ ātī hai, un sab apekṣhāoṅkā sambandha karake ātmāmen jaise lābh ho, vaisā karanā. dravyānuyogamen bahut ātā hai. usako yathārtha samajh lenā chāhiye.

anādi-se bhram ho rahā hai, ekatvabuddhi-paryāyamen dr̥uṣhṭi hai. dravya anādiananta shāshvat shuddha hai, usamen paryāyakī ashuddhatā kaise hai? usakī sādhanā kaise hove? sādhya pūrṇakā lakṣhya karake aur paryāyakī sādhanā-shuddhātmāmen shuddha paryāy pragaṭ hotī hai. samyagdarshan hove to turanta kevalagnān nahīn hotā hai. bīchamen sādhakadashā rahatī hai. to dravyadr̥uṣhṭi pragaṭ karake svānubhūti aur samyagdarshan pragaṭ hove to bhī līnatā bākī rahatī hai. kevalagnān (hone tak). sādhak aur sādhyakā kaise mel hai? yah sab samajhakar sab apekṣhā samajhanī chāhiye. dravya-guṇ-paryāyakī sab apekṣhā samajhakar, mukhya mukti mārga kaise hai vah grahaṇ karanā chāhiye.

dravyadr̥uṣhṭike prayojanake sāth nishchay-vyavahārakā sambandha kaise hai, yah samajhakar sab samajhanā chāhiye. dravyadr̥uṣhṭi mukhya rakhakar usamen paryāy bhī ashuddha hai, kaise svānubhūti hove? usakī pūrṇatā hove, usakī līnatā hove, yah kevalagnān tak aisā sab mel karake sab samajhanā chāhiye.

mumukṣhuḥ- paryāy gauṇ karake bhinna kahī jātī hai yā vāstavamen vah bhinna hokarake dr̥uṣhṭike viṣhayako viṣhay banātī hai?

samādhānaḥ- vāstavik bhinna nahīn hai. dravyadr̥uṣhṭi mukhya hotī hai to usamen paryāy gauṇ ho jātī hai. vah (-paryāy) ansh hai, vah (-dravya) anshī hai. akhaṇḍa dravya par dr̥uṣhṭi jāne-se paryāyakā lakṣhya gauṇ ho jātā hai. dravya aur paryāy bilakūl bhinna hove to paryāy dravya ho jātī hai. paryāy aise nahīn hotī hai ki dravyakā koī āshray nahīn hai paryāyako aur paryāy nirādhār hai, aisā to nahīn hai.

paryāy ek ansh hai isaliye svatantra hai. parantu vah ansh anshīkā ansh hai. isaliye usako gauṇ rakhakarake samajhanā chāhiye.

mumukṣhuḥ- gauṇ rakhe? samādhanaḥ- gauṇ rakhe. dr̥uṣhṭike joramen dravya mukhya hai to paryāy gauṇ hai. paryāy aur dravya vaise svatantra nahīn hai. vah ansharūp-se svatantra hai. paryāyako dravyakā āshray

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rahatā hai. kaise svatantra hai, yah apekṣhā samajhanī chāhie.

mumukṣhuḥ- ... pharamāyā ki samyagdarshanake viṣhayamen samyagdarshanakī paryāy nahīn hai.

samādhānaḥ- samyagdarshan paryāy viṣhayamen nahīn hai?

mumukṣhuḥ- hān̐, viṣhayamẽn.

samādhānaḥ- samyagdarshanakā viṣhay nahīn hai, parantu usamen gauṇ rah jātī hai. viṣhay to dravya hai. viṣhay dravya hai. paryāyako viṣhay nahīn karatī, dr̥uṣhṭi viṣhay nahīn karatī hai. gnānamen gauṇapane rah jātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- gnānamen rahatā hai, gauṇapane.

samādhānaḥ- gnānamen rahatā hai. dr̥uṣhṭi aur gnān donon sāthamen rahate haĩn. dr̥uṣhṭi alag aur gnān alag (aisā nahīn). dr̥uṣhṭi samyak huyī usake sāth gnān bhī rahatā hai. dr̥uṣhṭi aur gnān sāthamen rahate hain, gnānamen vah paryāy gauṇ rahatī hai. dr̥uṣhṭikā viṣhay dravya hai to bhī dr̥uṣhṭi aur gnān donon bhinna-bhinna nahīn hai. dr̥uṣhṭike sāth jo gnān rahatā hai to gnānamen vah paryāy khyālamen rahatī hai. viṣhay bhale dravya hove, to bhī paryāy rahatī hai. paryāyakā gnān usake sāth rahatā hai. gnān, dravya aur paryāy donoṅko jānatā hai. gnānamen dravya aur paryāy donon sāthamen rahate haĩn.

samādhānaḥ- ... sab karane lāyak sarvasva ho to ātmāmen sab kuchh hai. bāharamen kuchh hai nahī̃n. bāharamen to ekatvabuddhi, abhyās bāharakā hai isaliye bhītaramen jātā nahīn hai. to puruṣhārtha apane karanā paḍatā hai. puruṣhārtha kare, puruṣhārtha karane-se hotā hai. apanā pramād hai, kisīkā doṣh nahīn hai. gurudevane to bahut batāyā hai, karanā to apaneko paḍatā hai.

main gnāyak hūn̐, bākī sab vibhāv hai. vibhāvamen sukh nahīn hai, sukh ātmāmen hai. ye sab ākulatārūp hai-duḥkharūp hai. aisī pratīt, dr̥uḍhatāpūrvak pratīt karanī chāhiye. pratīt kare aur puruṣhārtha kare to hotā hai. bārambār-bārambār usakā abhyās karanā paḍatā hai. ek daphe kare aisā nahīn, bārambār (kare).

gurudevane jo batāyā hai, jo shāstramen āyā hai. puruṣhārtha to koī rokatā nahīn hai. karma rokate nahīn hai, koī padārtha rokate nahīn, apane kāraṇ-se ruk jātā hai. bāharamen ruchi hai. svarūpamen ruchi karanī chāhiye.

mumukṣhuḥ- kuchh log kahate hain ki kramabaddhaparyāyake bahāne, jo honā hai vahī hogā. puruṣhārtha to ham bahut karate hain, lekin nahīn hotā hai to kramabaddhaparyāyamen nahīn hai. hone yogya nahīn hai to kaise hogā? usakā kyā kiyā jāy? usakā samādhān kyā hai?

samādhānaḥ- kramabaddha aise kramabaddha nahīn hotā hai. kramabaddha to, puruṣhārthake sāth

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kramabaddha hotā hai. gurudev kahate hain ki gnāyak taraph dr̥uṣhṭi karo. gnāyakako jisane samajhā, usane kramabaddhako samajhā. jo gnāyak nahīn samajhatā hai, usako kramabaddha bhī samajhamen nahīn āyā hai. kramabaddhake sāth puruṣhārthakā sambandha hai. puruṣhārtha binā kramabaddha nahīn hai. jisake lakṣhyamen puruṣhārtha nahīn hai, usakā kramabaddha yathārtha nahīn hotā. vah to sansārakā kramabaddha hai.

jise puruṣhārthakī dr̥uṣhṭi hotī hai, usakā kramabaddha mokṣhake taraph jātā hai. puruṣhārthake sāth kramabaddhako sambandha hai. aise kāl, svabhāv ādi, pān̐ch labdhiyān̐ sāthamen hotī hai tab apanā kārya hotā hai. kramabaddha akelā samajhane-se nahīn hotā, puruṣhārtha pūrvak kramabaddha samajhanā.

mumukṣhuḥ- mātājī! jab paryāyamen alpagnatā hai to sarvagna svabhāvakā vishvās kaise āyegā?

samādhānaḥ- paryāyamen alpagnatā bhale hove. apanā svabhāv sarvagna hai. paryāy alpagna hove to bhī vishvās ho sakatā hai. sarvagnakī pariṇati pragaṭ karanemen to der lagatī hai. sarvagnakī pratīt to ho sakatī hai. pratīt honemen alpagna paryāy usamen rokatī nahīn hai. sarvagnakī pratīt to ho sakatī hai ki main sarvagna hū̃n. aisī pratīti ho sakatī hai. main gnāyak, sampūrṇa gnāyak hū̃n. main sarvagna shakti-se sarvagna hū̃n. pragaṭ nahīn huā, parantu aisī pratīt ho sakatī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- svānubhūtike liye hamako indriyagnān bādhak lagatā hai. indriy gnān .. to anubhūti hogī.

samādhānaḥ- apane karane-se hotā hai, indriyakā gnān rokatā nahīn hai. atīndriy gnān pragaṭ karanemen apanī ruchi badal denī. svarūp taraph ruchi kare, usamen līnatā kare, pratīt kare. jisakā svabhāv main gnāyak hūn̐, gnānamātra svabhāv hai utanā main hū̃n. usamen vishvās karake usamen sthir ho jāy, līnatā kare to atīndriy gnān pragaṭ hotā hai. indriy gnān usamen rokanevālā nahīn hai. bhītaramen-se pragaṭ karanā apane hāthakī bāt hai. koī indriyagnān usamen rokatā nahīn hai. indriyagnān hove isaliye atīndriy nahīn hotā hai, aisā nahīn hai.

bhītaramen-se pragaṭ karanā svayansiddha apanā svabhāv hai. apaneāp, apāriṇāmik dravya apaneāp pragaṭ kar sakatā hai. dev-guru-shāstra usakā nimitta hotā hai. upādān apanā hai. jo jinendra devane batāyā, jo gurudevane batāyā, jo shāstramen hotā hai, sab apane karanā paḍatā hai. atīndriy gnān pragaṭ kare, usamen svānubhūti pragaṭ karanā apane hāthakī bāt hai. koī kar nahīn detā hai. usamen koī rokatā nahīn hai. indriy gnān usamen rukāvaṭ nahīn karatā hai.

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mumukṣhuḥ- gurudev kahate the ki gnān parako jānatā hī nahīn hai. to ham karen kyā?

samādhānaḥ- gurudev aisā nahīn kahate the, parako nahīn jānatā hai aisā nahīn kahate the. gurudev kahate the, svaparaprakāshak gnān hai. shāstramen aisā ātā hai. svaparaprakāshak gnānakā svabhāv hai. par taraph terī ekatvabuddhi hai. paramen upayog lagatā hai to parako main jānatā hūn̐, svako bhūl gayā hai. svakā gnān pragaṭ kara. parako tū jānatā nahīn hai aisā nahīn hai. svaparaprakāshak gnānakā svabhāv hai. jānanekā haṭānā nahīn hai, apanī ruchi badalanī hai. upayog palaṭ de. upayog sva taraph kar le. main gnāyak svabhāv hū̃n. usamen jo sahaj svabhāv svaparaprakāshak hai, kevalagnānamen svaparaprakāshak svabhāv pragaṭ hotā hai.

upayog bāhar gneyamen lag jātā hai, gney upayukta (hotā hai), gneyamen ekamek ho jātā hai. gneyamen ekamek nahīn honā. bhedagnān karake apane svarūpamen līn honā. to apanā svaparaprakāshak gnān pragaṭ hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- pūjya mātājī! ābālagopāl sabhīko bhagavān ātmā jānanemen ā rahā hai. thoḍā-sā spaṣhṭi kijīye.

samādhānaḥ- ābālagopālako jānanemen ā rahā hai usakā artha aisā nahīn hai ki jānanemen ā rahā hai isaliye usakī anubhūti ho rahī hai, usakī svānubhūti ho rahī hai (aisā nahīn hai). anubhūti aisī ho rahī hai ki svayansiddha ātmā hai. usakā asādhāraṇ gnānasvabhāv hai. vah gnānasvabhāv apane svabhāvarūpase pariṇamatā hai, vibhāvarūp nahīn huā hai. dravyadr̥uṣhṭi-se svabhāvarūp pariṇamatā hai. ābālagopāl sab gnānamen jān sakate haĩn. usakā artha aisā nahīn hai ki usakī anubhūti arthāt samyakagnān ho gayā, aisā usakā artha nahīn hai.

gnānasvabhāv sabako lakṣhyamen ā sakatā hai. asādhāraṇ gnānasvabhāv hai. sab jān sakate haiain ki main gnānasvabhāv ātmā hū̃n. ye jaḍ kuchh jānate nahī̃n. main jānanevālā hūn̐, aisī pratīt sab ābālagopāl kar sakate haĩn. main jānanevālā hūn̐, ye jaḍ nahīn jānatā hai, main jānanevālā hū̃n. apane svabhāvarūp gnānasvabhāv anādiananta hai. vah gnān jaḍ nahīn huā. vah gnānasvabhāv ābālagopāl sab jān sakate haĩn. gnānakī anubhūti hotī hai. yathārtha svabhāvamen līn hokar svānubhūti ho rahī hai, aisā artha nahīn hai. anubhūti arthāt gnān sabako hai. aisā asādhāraṇ gnānasvabhāv sabako jānanemen ātā hai. usakā artha aisā hai. jaḍ nahīn hai. gnānasvabhāv sabako anubhavamen ā rahā hai, aisā gnānasvabhāv anubhavamen ā rahā hai. samyakarūp-se (ā rahā hai), aisā nahī̃n. usakā lakṣhaṇ, jo lakṣhaṇ hai vah ābālagopāl sab jān sakate haĩn. aisā usakā gnānasvabhāv hai.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho!

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