Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 269.

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ઉપયોગ એકમાં ન ટકે તો બીજા શુભભાવમાં જોડવો પણ ઘ્યેય તો એક આત્માનું જ રાખવું...    0   Play
upayog ekamān na ṭake to bījā shubhabhāvamān joḍavo paṇ ghyey to ek ātmānun ja rākhavun...    0   Play

....લાગી છે તેને લાગી છે તે પિયુ પિયુ પોકારે છે.... અમને એવી ઝંખના લાગતી નથી તેના માટે શું ભૂલ પડતી હશે?    2:50   Play
....lāgī chhe tene lāgī chhe te piyu piyu pokāre chhe.... amane evī jhaṅkhanā lāgatī nathī tenā māṭe shun bhūl paḍatī hashe?    2:50   Play

વચનામૃતમાં આવે છે કે ‘સૂક્ષ્મ ઉપયોગ કરી જ્ઞાયકને પકડવો’ ત્યાં સૂક્ષ્મ ઉપયોગમાં શું ગૂઢાર્થ છે?    4:40   Play
vachanāmr̥utamān āve chhe ke ‘sūkṣhma upayog karī gnāyakane pakaḍavo’ tyān sūkṣhma upayogamān shun gūḍhārtha chhe?    4:40   Play

વચનામૃતમાં આવે છે કે આત્માને મુખ્ય રાખવો, કાર્યની ગણતરી કરવા જેવી નથી તેમ છતાં પરિણામમાં કાર્યની ગણતરી થઈ જતી હોય તો તેમાં મુખ્ય કારણ શું બનતું હશે? તેનાથી બચવા પ્રયોગાત્મક શું કરવું?    7:20   Play
vachanāmr̥utamān āve chhe ke ātmāne mukhya rākhavo, kāryanī gaṇatarī karavā jevī nathī tem chhatān pariṇāmamān kāryanī gaṇatarī thaī jatī hoy to temān mukhya kāraṇ shun banatun hashe? tenāthī bachavā prayogātmak shun karavun?    7:20   Play

વચનામૃતમાં આવે છે કે ‘શુદ્ધ દ્રવ્યસ્વભાવની દ્રષ્ટિ કરી અશુદ્ધતાને ખ્યાલમાં રાખી પુરુષાર્થ કરવો’ ત્યાં ખ્યાલ રાખવો તેમાં ઉપયોગાત્મક જ્ઞાનગુણની પર્યાય લેવી કે લબ્ધાત્મક જ્ઞાનગુણની પર્યાય લેવી?    9:10   Play
vachanāmr̥utamān āve chhe ke ‘shuddha dravyasvabhāvanī draṣhṭi karī ashuddhatāne khyālamān rākhī puruṣhārtha karavo’ tyān khyāl rākhavo temān upayogātmak gnānaguṇanī paryāy levī ke labdhātmak gnānaguṇanī paryāy levī?    9:10   Play

‘જ્ઞાયકને પરિણામમાં પકડવો’ તેવું વચનામૃતના પ્રવચનમાં પૂજ્ય ગુરુદેવશ્રીએ ફરમાવ્યું કે ‘જ્ઞાયકમાં અહંપણું કરવું’.....ઘણી વખત એમ આવે છે કે જ્ઞાયકની રુચિ કરવી તો પર્યાયમાં જ્ઞાયકનો મહિમા કરવો, રુચિ કરવી–અહંપણું કરવું તેમાં શું તફાવત છે?    10:45   Play
‘gnāyakane pariṇāmamān pakaḍavo’ tevun vachanāmr̥utanā pravachanamān pūjya gurudevashrīe pharamāvyun ke ‘gnāyakamān ahampaṇun karavun’.....ghaṇī vakhat em āve chhe ke gnāyakanī ruchi karavī to paryāyamān gnāyakano mahimā karavo, ruchi karavī–ahampaṇun karavun temān shun taphāvat chhe?    10:45   Play

વચનામૃતમાં આવે છે કે અનુભૂતિ માટે પોતાને પરદ્રવ્યથી ભિન્ન નક્કી કરી પોતાના ધ્રુવ સ્વભાવનો મહિમા લાવી સમ્યગ્દર્શન પ્રાપ્ત કરવાનો પ્રયાસ કરવો જોઈએ ત્યાં પરદ્રવ્યથી ભિન્ન વિચાર કરતા લાગે છે, પણ પોતાના ધ્રુવ જ્ઞાયક સ્વભાવનો મહિમા આવતો નથી તો શું કરવું? ‘મુમુક્ષુના નેત્રો સત્પુરુષને ઓળખી લે છે’ ત્યાં મુમુક્ષુના નેત્રોનો અર્થ સત્પુરુષની વાણીમાં આવતું આત્માનું શાબ્દિક માહાત્મ્ય અને અન્યના તેવા શબ્દોમાં આવતું કૃત્રિમ હાર્દ પરથી ઓળખી શકાય?    16:50   Play
vachanāmr̥utamān āve chhe ke anubhūti māṭe potāne paradravyathī bhinna nakkī karī potānā dhruv svabhāvano mahimā lāvī samyagdarshan prāpta karavāno prayās karavo joīe tyān paradravyathī bhinna vichār karatā lāge chhe, paṇ potānā dhruv gnāyak svabhāvano mahimā āvato nathī to shun karavun? ‘mumukṣhunā netro satpuruṣhane oḷakhī le chhe’ tyān mumukṣhunā netrono artha satpuruṣhanī vāṇīmān āvatun ātmānun shābdik māhātmya ane anyanā tevā shabdomān āvatun kr̥utrim hārda parathī oḷakhī shakāy?    16:50   Play

દેવ -ગુરુ-શાસ્ત્રની મહિમા વખતે આપ આત્માની ખટક રાખવાની વાત ફરમાવો છો તો તે એક જ પરિણામમાં બંને પ્રયોગાત્મક કેવી રીતે બને?    17:50   Play
dev -guru-shāstranī mahimā vakhate āp ātmānī khaṭak rākhavānī vāt pharamāvo chho to te ek ja pariṇāmamān banne prayogātmak kevī rīte bane?    17:50   Play

પૂજ્ય ગુરુદેવશ્રીનો મહિમા    20:10   Play
pūjya gurudevashrīno mahimā    20:10   Play

samādhānaḥ- .. jisakā astitva anādiananta hai, vah trikāl vastu hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- vahī trikāl vastu hai?

samādhānaḥ- vahī trikāl (vastu hai). jo jānanevālekā astitva hai, vah trikāl vastu hai. aur vah jānanemātra nahīn, ananta shaktion-se bharā hai. asādhāraṇ gnān (guṇ) hai, isaliye gnān dvārā grahaṇ hotā hai. vah jānanevālā hai ananta shaktiyon-se bharā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ... kabhī āye tab bahut ātā hai.

samādhānaḥ- koī bār ugra ho jāy to sahaj aisā ho jāya. parantu hai abhī abhyāsarūp, sahajarūp nahīn hai. koī bār use prayatna kar-karake bhī kr̥utrimatā-se (karatā hai), vah to puruṣhārthakī gati us jātakī hai na. hāni-vr̥uddhi, hāni-vr̥uddhi hotī rahatī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- us vakta kyā karanā? jab bahut prayatna karate hain lānekā, us vakta nahīn hotā ho to?

samādhānaḥ- samajhanā ki kuchh mandatā hai isaliye (nahīn ho rahā hai). phir-se bhāvanā ugra ho jāy to sahaj āve.

mumukṣhuḥ- na āye us vakta paḍhanā yā aisā kuchh karanā?

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, vah na āye to ek jagah upayog sthir na ho to vāñchanamen upayog joḍanā, vichāramen joḍanā, dev-guru-shāstrakī mahimāmen, is prakār alag-alag prakār-se upayogako joḍanā. ek jātakā kārya antaramen na ho sake to anek prakār- se upayogako shubhabhāvamen joḍe. parantu vah samajhe ki yah shubh hai. to bhī jabatak antaramen shuddhātmā pragaṭ nahīn huā hai, to use shubhabhāv āye binā nahīn rahate. isaliye shubhake kāyāko, shubhakī bhāvanāoṅko badalatā rahe. parantu dhyey ek (honā chāhiye ki) mujhe shuddhātmākī pahachān kaise ho? dhyey to ek honā chāhiye.

bhedagnān ho to bhī shubhabhāv to khaḍe rahate haĩn. parantu vah samajhatā hai ki ya ha main nahīn hū̃n. aise bhedagnānakī dhārā use sahaj chalatī hai. ek hī jagah upayog ṭik nahīn pātā, ataḥ upayogako badalatā rahe. pūrā din bhedagnān karatā ho aur kr̥utrim jaisā

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ho jātā ho to vāñchan karanā, vichār karanā. anek prakār-se upayogako badalate rahanā.

mumukṣhuḥ- āpakī vāṇī bahut mīṭhī aur saral lagatī hai. itanī saral lagatī hai ki andaramen sab samajhamen ātā hai.

samādhānaḥ- koī bār ugra ho, koī bār dhīre ho, jignāsuko aisā hotā rahatā hai. ... bīchamen hotā hai. nimitta-upādānakā aisā sambandha hai. isaliye jitanā satsamāgam ho us prakārakā prayatna karanā. aur apanī taiyārī karanī. karanekā svayaṅko hī hai. usakā svabhāv hai vah sahaj hai. parantu pariṇatiko palaṭanā vah puruṣhārtha hai. puruṣhārtha aur sahaj, aisā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- abhī tak gurudevashrīko sunate the, sab karate the, parantu usamen apekṣhā gnān, gurudevakā hr̥uday gāmbhīrya kyā hai, vah hamen barābar samajhamen nahīn ātā thā. isaliye gurudev bahut apekṣhāen̐ letee the. parantu ham shabdommen hī le jāte the aur samajhamen nahīn ātā thā. āpake pratāp-se hamen thoḍā samajhamen āne lagā. mahimā bhī ātī hai, lagatā hai ki aho! yahī satya hai. aisā mārga hai, pahale ... jaise āpane kahā, jise lagī hai usīko lagī hai, pihū pihū pukāratā hai. usake liye vaisī utkaṇṭhā jāgr̥ut nahīn hotī hai, to usamen hamārī kyā bhūl hotī hogī? athavā hamen kis prakār-se vaisā lage, āp darshāīye.

samādhānaḥ- antaramen utanī puruṣhārthakī mandatā rahatī hai, bāharamen aṭak jātā hai isaliye. antaramen bas, yahī karanekā hai, satya yahī hai. svabhāvamen hī sukh hai, sab svabhāvamen bharā hai. bāhar kahīn nahīn hai. utanī antaramen ruchikī tīvratā nahīn hai. isaliye puruṣhārthakī mandatā hai. ruchi hai, parantu ruchikī mandatāke kāraṇ, puruṣhārthakī mandatāke kāraṇ vah tīvratā nahīn ho rahī hai. tīvratā ho to puruṣhārtha utpanna hue binā rahe nahī̃n. mandatā rahatī hai, apanī hī mandatā rahatī hai. usakā kāraṇ apanā hai, anya kisīkā kāraṇ nahīn hai. apanī ruchi manda hai aur apane puruṣhārthakī mandatā hai. isaliye usamen ruk gayā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- vachanāmr̥utamen ātā hai ki sūkṣhma upayog karake gnāyakako pakaḍanā. sūkṣhma upayogamen kyā gūḍhārtha hai? prayogātmak paddhati-se sūkṣhma upayog (karanā)?

samādhānaḥ- upayog bāharamen sthūlarūp-se bāhar vartatā rahatā hai. svayam sthūlatā- se bāhya padāthāko jānanekā prayatna kare, vikalpako pakaḍe vah sab sthūl hai. parantu andar ātmāko pakaḍanā vah sūkṣhma hai.

ātmākā jo gnānasvabhāv, gnāyakasvabhāvako pakaḍanā vah sūkṣhma upayog ho to pakaḍamen ātā hai. kyoṅki vah svayam arūpī hai. vah kahīn varṇa, gandha, ras, sparshavālā nahīn

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hai. arūpī ātmāko pakaḍanā. upayog sūkṣhma kare to pakaḍamen ātā hai. ye vikalpa, jo vibhāvabhāv hai, usase bhī ātmā to sūkṣhma hai. gnānasvabhāv-gnāyakasvabhāv, us gnānamen pūrā gnāyak samāyā hai. us gnāyakako svayam sūkṣhma upayog kare to pakaḍamen ātā hai. sūkṣhmatāke binā pakaḍamen (nahīn ātā). sthūlatā-se aur rāgamishrit bhāvon-se pakaḍamen nahīn ātā. parantu usase bhinna hokar pakaḍe to pakaḍamen āye aisā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- bhinna paḍakar māne kyā?

samādhānaḥ- bhinna paḍakar arthāt andar gnāyakako grahaṇ karake vikalpake bhāvon- se bhinna paḍe to vāstavik pakaḍamen ātā hai. pahale shurūātamen to use vikalpa sāthamen hotā hai. vikalpa-se bhinna paḍe to antaramen nirvikalpa dashā ho jāy, vah to vāstavik pakaḍamen ātā hai. shurūātamen, pratham bhūmikāmen to vikalpa sāthamen hotā hai. vāstavik pakaḍamen āye to vikalpa-se bhinna paḍatā hai. parantu pahale shurūātamen vikalpako gauṇ karake aur ātmāko adhik rakhakar yadi pakaḍe to pakaḍamen ātā hai. vikalpa-se bilakūl bhinna to nirvikalpa dashā ho to vah vikalpa-se bhinna paḍatā hai. vikalpako gauṇ karake aur anshataḥ ātmāko mukhya karake pakaḍe to pakaḍamen ātā hai.

bhedagnānakī dhārā ho to usamen vikalpa-se bhinna paḍe. bhinna paḍe arthāt vikalpa hai aisā use khyāl rahatā hai ki parantu pariṇatiko bhinna karatā hai. vah sab to vāstavik hai. shurūātakī bhūmikāmen vikalpa sāthamen hotā hai, parantu vikalpako gauṇ karake ātmāko mukhya rakhakar, yah main gnāyak hūn̐ aur yah vikalpa hai, is tarah pakaḍ sakatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- vachanāmr̥utamen ātā hai ki ātmāko mukhya rakhanā. parantu kāyākī ginatī karane jaisā nahīn hai. phir bhī pariṇāmommen kāryakī ginatī ho jātī ho to vahān̐ mukhya kāraṇ kyā banatā hogā? aur usase bachane hetu prayogātmak paddhati-se kyā karanā?

samādhānaḥ- kāyākī ginatī nahīn karanā, ātmāko mukhya rakhanā. kāyākī ginatī to use bāharamen us jātakā use rāg hai isaliye ginatī hotī hai. usake liye ek ātmā taraphakī hī lagan lagāye, dūsarekī mahimā ṭūṭ jāy ki dūsare kāyākī kyā mahimā hai? ātmā hī mujhe sarvasva hai aur ātmāmen hī sarvasva hai. to ātmāko mukhya rakhe, ātmākī mahimā āye to vah sab use gauṇ ho jātā hai. use kisī bhī prakārakī ginatī nahīn hotī. merā ātmā hī sarvasva hai. ātmākī hī mahimā, ātmākī lagan, ātmā or hī use sarvasvatā lage aur dūsarekā ras ṭūṭ jāya. dūsarekī mahimā ṭūṭ jātī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- itanā paḍhatā hūn̐, itanī bhakti karatā hūn̐, main itane ghaṇṭe aisā karatā hū̃n. itanā-itanā main karatā hūn̐, aisā ginatī (hotī hai).

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samādhānaḥ- mainne itanā kiyā to bhī kuchh hotā nahīn hai. itane vichār kiye, itanā svādhyāy kiyā, itanā vāñchan kiyā, itanī bhakti kī. use ātmā mukhya rahatā hai. use ginatī nahīn hotī, mujhe ātmā hī sarvasva hai. bāhar-se jo bhī ho, usake bajāy antaramen mujhe bhedagnānakī dhārā pragaṭ ho, main gnāyakako grahaṇ karun̐, gnāyakamen līnatā ho, us par usakī dr̥uṣhṭi hotī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- vachanāmr̥utamen ātā hai ki shuddha dravya svabhāvakī dr̥uṣhṭi karake tathā ashuddhatāko khyālamen rakhakar puruṣhārtha karanā. vahān̐ khyāl māne upayogātmak gnānaguṇakī paryāy lenī yā labdhātmak gnān lenā?

samādhānaḥ- ātmā shuddha hai. bāhar upayog hai vah use labdhātmak, khyālamen rahatā hai. gnānamen labdhātmak khyāl nahīn use upayogātmak khyāl rahatā hai. labdhātmak khyāl to hai, parantu upayogamen use khyāl rahatā hai ki yah ashuddha hai, yah shuddha hai. upayogamen bhī rahatā hai aur labdhamen bhī rahatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- itanī ashuddhatā hai, yah hai, vah hai.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, itanī ashuddhatā hai, itanī shuddhatā hai. labdhamen rahatā hai ki itanā gnāyak hai, yah vibhāv hai. parantu upayogamen bhī use khyālamen rahatā hai ki itanī ashuddhatā hai, yah shuddhātmā hai, aisā upayogamen rahatā hai. jabatak usakā upayog bāhar hai, tabatak sab khyālamen rahatā hai. yah ashuddhatā hai, yah shuddha hai aisā.

mumukṣhuḥ- nirvikalpatāke samay nahīn hotā.

samādhānaḥ- nirvikalpatāke samay nahīn hotā. vah to ek svarūpamen jam jātā hai. ānanda dashāmen bāharakā kuchh dhyān nahīn hai. ek ānanda, ananta guṇ-se bharā ātmā ānandasvarūp anupam hai. vahīn usakī līnatā hai, isaliye dūsarā kuchh khyāl nahīn hai. sab abuddhipūrvak ho jātā hai. use khyāl hī nahīn hai, apane svarūpakā hī vedan hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- gnāyakako pariṇāmamen pakaḍanā, aisā vachanāmr̥utake pravachanamen pūjya gurudevashrīne pharamāyā ki pariṇāmamen gnāyakapane ahampanā karanā. jaise shāstragnān dhāraṇāgnānamen ahampanā hai, usake badale gnāyakamen ahampanā karanā. aur bahut bār aisā bhī ātā hai ki gnāyakako ruchigat karanā. to paryāyamenn gnāyakakī mahimā ānī, in donommen kyā antar hai? ahampanā karanā, mahimā karanī, ruchi karanī usamen kyā antar hai?

samādhānaḥ- yah gnāyak hai vah main hū̃n. ahampanā arthāt yah gnāyak hai vah main hūn̐ aur yah main nahīn hū̃n. shāstrakā ahampanā, ye shāstra paḍhā vah nahīn, ye gnāyak vah main hū̃n. yah main hūn̐, usamen usakī ruchi bhī ā jātī hai aur usakī us jātakī pratīti bhī ā jātī hai. us jātakā gnāyakamen ahampanā, main gnāyak hū̃n. aise.

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mumukṣhuḥ- yānī vahī mahimā huyī, vahī ruchi huyī, sab ho gayā.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, sab usamen ā gayā. ruchi, mahimā sab usamen ā jātā hai. yah gnāyak hai so main hū̃n. gnāyakakā ahampanā karanā. vibhāvakā ahampanā-ekatvabuddhi toḍakar vibhāvake koī bhī kāyāmen ekatvabuddhi kare, usake bajāy main usase bhinna gnāyak hū̃n. bhale abhī vikalpātmak hai, parantu gnāyakamen ahampanā karanā. vah ahampanā nahīn karanā ki ye shāstra ityādikī ekatvabuddhi toḍakar gnāyakakā ahampanā karanā. abhī vāstavik- rūp-se use ṭūṭā nahīn hai, parantu main gnāyak hūn̐, is prakārase bhī use vikalpātmak hai, to bhī main gnāyak hūn̐, us jātakī pariṇati dr̥uḍh karanī. pratītamen lānā, ruchimen lānā, mahimāmen lānā.

mumukṣhuḥ- vachanāmr̥utamen ātā hai ki anubhūtike liye svayaṅko parapadārtha-se bhinna padārtha nakkī kare, apane dhruv svabhāvakī mahimā lāye aur samyagdarshan pragaṭ karanekā prayās karanā chāhiye. vahān̐ paradravya-se bhinnatā vichār karane par lagatā hai ki svayam paradravya- se bhinna hai. parantu svayam dhruv gnāyakasvabhāvī mahimāvant hai, aisā lagatā nahīn hai. to prayogātmakapane kyā karanā chāhiye?

samādhānaḥ- paradravya-se bhinna hai to usakā astitva grahaṇ karanā hai ki ye chaitanyakā astitva dhrav svarūp hai vah main hūn̐, yah main nahīn hū̃n. yah main nahīn hūn̐, paradravya so main nahīn hūn̐, merā svarūp nahīn hai, to main kaun hūn̐? apanī mahimā āye binā vāstavik paradravya taraphakī ekatā ṭūṭatī hī nahī̃n. isaliye main kaun hūn̐? usakā vichār kare. merā astitva kyā hai? main ek dhruv gnāyakasvarūpī anādiananta ek vastu hūn̐ aur ye jo vibhāv paryāy hai vah merā vāstavik svarūp nahīn hai. merā vāstavik svarūp gnāyak svarūp hai. is prakār apanā astitva grahaṇ karake nāstitva āye to vah barābar hotā hai. akelā nāstitva āye ki paradravya main nahīn hūn̐, akelā nāstitva vāstavik nahīn hotā. astitvapūrvakakā nāstitva ho to vah barābar hotā hai. isaliye astitva taraphakā (prayatna karanā).

ye sab main nahīn hūn̐, ye sab achchhā nahīn hai, parantu achchhā kyā hai? gnāyak svabhāv mahimāvant hai. usakā astitva grahaṇ karake nāstitva āye to use vāstavik bhedagnān honekā usamen avakāsh hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- usakī visheṣh mahimā kaise āye?

samādhānaḥ- dhruvamen, gnāyakatāmen-gnāyakasvabhāvamen hī sab bharā hai. usakā vichār- se, usakā svabhāv pahinakar nakkī kare ki ye kuchh mahimāvant nahīn hai to mahimāvant kaun hai? main chaitanya gnāyak mahimāvant svarūp hū̃n. use vichār-se, usakā svabhāv pahichānakar

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nakkī kare ki ye gnāyakatā hai vah ananta gnāyakatā hai. vah gnāyakatā, itanā jānā isaliye gnāyak hai, aisā nahī̃n. svataḥsiddha gnāyak jisamen nahīn jānanā aisā ātā hī nahīn, aisā ananta-ananta gnāyakatā-se bharā jo svabhāv aur jo sukhako bāharamen ichchhatā hai, vah sukhakā svabhāv, sukhakā samudra svayam hī hai. aisā ananta svabhāvavālā, ananta ānanda jisamen bharā hai, ananta gnān jisamen bharā hai aur ananta svabhāv-se jo bharā hai aisā main chaitanya hū̃n. us chaitanyakī mahimā vichār karake lāve ki vah vastu ananta dharmātmak aur mahimāvant koī anupam hai. usakā vichār karake mahimā lāye. shāstrommen ātā hai, āchāryadev kahate hain, gurudev kahate haiain ki ye vastu koī anupam mahimāvant hai. jo anubhavī hain, gurudev kahate hain, muni kahate hain ki ātmā koī anupam hai. to svayam vichār karake nakkī kare.

svayaṅko to ek gnānasvabhāv hī dikhatā hai, dūsarā kuchh dikhatā nahīn hai. to svayam vichār karake andar-se svataḥsiddha ananta dharmātmak hai, ananta achintya mahimā-se bharī hai, usakā vichār karake nakkī kare to svayaṅko pratīt āve. dev-guru-shāstra jo kahate hain ki koī apūrva vastu hai, terī vastu apūrva hai, tū usamen jā. to vah apūrva kaise hai? usakā vichār karake svayam pratīt kare to ho. usakā lakṣhaṇ to amuk dikhatā hai, parantu svayanse nakkī karanā paḍatā hai.

bāharamen sab jagah ākulatā hai. to nirākulatā aur ānanda-se bharā ek ātmā hai. aisā gurudev kahate hain, āchārya kahate hain, sab kahate haĩn. antaramen hai vah kis prakār- se hai, vah svayam vichār karake, svabhāvako pahichānakar nakkī kare ki usīmen sab hai. to use mahimā āye.

mumukṣhuḥ- ananta guṇātmak hai vah sab vichār dvārā nakkī ho sakatā hai?

samādhānaḥ- vichār dvārā nakkī ho sakatā hai. use dikhatā nahīn hai, parantu nakkī ho sakatā hai. jo anādiananta vastu ho vah māpavālī nahīn ho sakatī. vah ananta agādh svabhāv-se bharī hai. vichār-se nakkī kar sakatā hai. usakī mahimā lā sakatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- mumukṣhuke netra satpuraṣhako pahichān letā hai. vahān̐ mumukṣhuke netrakā artha satpuruṣhakī vāṇīmen ā rahī ātmākī sahaj mahimā aur anyakī usī shabdommen ā rahī kr̥utrim mahimā, usake bīchakā bhed karatā hai, aisā kah sakate hain?

samādhānaḥ- usake netra aise hī ho gaye ho. pātratā antaramen-se use satya hī chāhiye. satpuruṣhakī vāṇīmen koī apūrvatā rahī hai, koī ātmākā svarūp batā rahe haĩn. dūsarekī vāṇī aur unakī vāṇīkā bhed kar sakatā hai. usakā hr̥uday hī aisā ho gayā hai ki mujhe jo chāhiye, koī apūrva vastu, ye kuchh apūrva batā rahe haĩn. vah bhed

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kar sakatā hai. sachchā mumukṣhu ho vah bhed kar sakatā hai. sachchā mumukṣhu ho vah bhed kar sakatā hai. unake parichay-se, unakī vāṇī-se bhed kar sakatā hai. parīkṣhā karake bhed kar sakatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- dev-guru-shāstrakī mahimāke vakta ātmākī khaṭak rakhanekā āp pharamāte ho, to vah donon ek pariṇāmamen prayogātmak rūp-se kaise karanā?

samādhānaḥ- dev-guru-shāstrakī mahimāke samay ātmākī (khaṭak honī chāhiye). us mahimākā hetu kyā hai? dev-guru-shāstra, jinendra devane ātmā pragaṭ kiyā hai, ve kevalagnān svarūp, pūrṇarūp-se virājamān ho gaye, gurudev sādhanā karate hain, shāstrommen bhī vah ātā hai, isaliye usakī mahimākā hetu kyā hai ki unhonne jo chaitanyakā svarūp pragaṭ kiyā, isaliye unakī mahimā ātī hai. usakā artha vah hai ki unhonne vah svarūp pragaṭ kiyā isaliye unakī mahimā ātī hai. to us svarūpakī svayaṅko ruchi hai aur vah ruchi vaisī honī chāhiye ki vah svarūp mujhe pragaṭ ho.

ataḥ rūḍhigatarūp-se vah achchhā hai aise nahī̃n. unhonne jo pragaṭ kiyā vah ādarane yogya koī anupam vastu pragaṭ kī hai. aur vah vastu mujhe chāhiye. isaliye usamen ruchi aur dev-guru-shāstrakī mahimā donon sāth hote haĩn. jise mahimā, aisī samajhapūrvak mahimā āye use ātmākī ruchi sāthamen hotī hī hai. oghe oghe karatā ho (aisā nahīn). samajhapūrvak jise mahimā ātī hai use ruchi sāthamen hotī hī hai ki yah svarūp mujhe chāhiye. ye vibhāv achchhā nahīn hai, parantu svabhāv achchhā hai. ataḥ jo dev- guru-shāstrane pragaṭ kiyā hai, usakī use mahimā ātī hai aur vah mujhe chāhiye. aisā andar-se samāyā hai. aisī ruchi sāthamen hotī hī hai. aisī samajhapūrvak jise mahimā āye, use ātmākī ruchi sāthamen hotī hī hai.

ātmākī ruchi sāthamen na ho aur akelī mahimā kare to vah sab samajhe binākā hai. anādi kāl-se jo mātra ruḍhigatarūp-se kiyā vaisā. dev-guru-shāstra ādarane yogya kyon hai? ki unhonne ātmākā svarūp koī apūrva pragaṭ kiyā hai, isaliye. isaliye unakā svayaṅko ādar hai. antaramen apanā ādar andar ā jātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ātmākī khaṭak rahatī ho aur mahimā ātī ho, vahī sachchī mahimā hai?

samādhānaḥ- vahī sachchī mahimā hai. use khaṭak rahatī hī hai. jise sachchī mahimā āye use ātmākī khaṭak sāthamen hotī hī hai. to sachchī mahimā hai.

gurudevane mārga kitanā spaṣhṭa kiyā hai. prashna pūchhe usakā uttar detī hū̃n. mumukṣhuḥ- gurudevake shabda bahut gambhīr, isaliye kuchh samajh nā sake. unakā gambhīr āshay samajh na sake, āpane gurudevakā hr̥uday kholā isaliye ham bach gaye.

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samādhānaḥ- gurudevane batāyā hai. yahī karane jaisā hai. jīvanamen apūrva vastu kaise prāpta ho aur vah apūrvatā kaise prāpta ho? apūrva puruṣhārtha, ātmā apūrva, usakā abhyās koī apūrva. bākī sab rūḍhigat rūpase bahut bār kiyā hai. apūrva prakār-se prāpta ho vah karanā hai.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho! mātājīnī amr̥ut vāṇīno jay ho!

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