Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 36.

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માતાજી! ભેદજ્ઞાન થાય છે તે સામાન્ય રાગ પરિણતિથી થાય છે કે ઉઠતા વિકલ્પોથી થાય છે ?    0   Play
mātājī! bhedagnān thāy chhe te sāmānya rāg pariṇatithī thāy chhe ke uṭhatā vikalpothī thāy chhe ?    0   Play

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evo koī draṣhṭānt ke jenāthī gnānīnun svarūp khyālamān āve tathā temano kevaḷagnān prāpta karavāno sahaj puruṣhārtha chāle chhe te khyālamān āve?    5:00   Play

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mumukṣhuḥ- pūjya mātājī! bhedagnān jo hotā hai vah sāmānyataḥ rāg pariṇatise hotā hai athavā jo vikalpa utpanna hote hain, usase hotā hai? rāg pariṇatise hotā hai yā jo vikalpa uṭhate hain usase hotā hai?

samādhānaḥ- vibhāvabhāv pūrā le lenā. vibhāvase bhinna. pratyek vikalpa usamen ā gaye. jitane vibhāvik bhāv hai, un sabase bhedagnān ho gayā. main gnāyak bhinna hūn̐ aur ye vibhāv bhinna hai. vibhāvase merā svabhāv bhinna hai. usase bhedagnān hotā hai. main gnāyak hū̃n. pūri dishā palaṭ gayī. dr̥uṣhṭikī dishā palaṭ gayī. dr̥uṣhṭikī dishā hī palaṭ gayī ki main gnāyak hūn̐ aur yah vibhāv hai. pūrā bhinna ho gayā. bhinna ho gayā isaliye jo- jo vikalpa āye usamen bhinna hī hai, vah sadā hī bhinna hai. use phir kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen gnāyakakī dhārā chalatī hai. isaliye pratikṣhaṇ vah pratyek kāryamen bhinna hī rahatā hai.

pratyek vikalpase bhinna hī hai, lekin pratyek vikalpake samay use vikalpa kar- karake bhinna nahīn honā paḍatā. pratyek vikalpa āye usase bhinna hī hai, bhinna hī rahatā hai. lekin use vikalpa kar-karake, pratyek vikalpake samay vikalpa karake bhinna nahīn rahanā paḍatā. bhinna ho gayā. prashasta aur aprashasta pratyek bhāvonse bhinna hī hai. bhinna ho gayā, bhinnatākī pariṇati chālū ho gayī isaliye bhinna hī rahatā hai. chāhe jo bhī prasaṅg ho, bhinna hī rahatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- sahaj bhinna rahatā hai.

samādhānaḥ- sahaj bhinna hī rahatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- vah bhī usakā sahaj puruṣhārtha hai?

samādhānaḥ- vah sahaj puruṣhārtha hai. pratyekamen bhinna hī rahatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ye jo vikalpa yā rāg hotā hai, usī vakta sahajarūpase bhinna rahatā hai?

samādhānaḥ- bhinna hī rahatā hai. pratyek samay bhinna hī rahatā hai. use har vakta bhinna-bhinna prayatna nahīn karanā paḍatā. laukikamen kisīko vairāgya huā, sansārase laukik vairāgya huā to pratyek kāryamen use vikalpa kar-karake vairāgya nahīn (lānā paḍatā),

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pratyek prasaṅgamen use virakti hī vartatī hai.

usī prakār yahān̐ bhinna ho gayā, gnāyakakī dhārā pragaṭ ho gayī to kisī bhī vibhāvake vikalpamen yathārtharūpase bhinna ho gayā. phir bhinna hī rahatā hai. puruṣhārtha to usakā chālū hī hai, parantu vah gnāyakadhārākā puruṣhārtha hai. udayadhārā aur gnānadhārā. pratyek udayake samay usakī gnānadhārā chālū hai, usakī gnāyakadhārā chālū rahatī hai. astitvakī gnāyakadhārā chālū hai aur nāstimen dūsaronse bhinna paḍatā hai. bhedagnānakī dhārā chālū hai, vikalpa āte hain usase bhinnatākī usakī pariṇati chālū hai aur use is orase gnāyakakī ugratā, gnānadhārā chālū hai. use puruṣhārthamen gnānakī dhārā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- gnānadhārākā puruṣhārtha māne kyā?

samādhānaḥ- gnānadhārā-gnāyak.. gnāyak.. gnāyak.. gnāyakakī pariṇati chālū hai. gnāyakakī pariṇati chālū hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- har vakta use gnāyakakī pariṇati hai?

samādhānaḥ- pratyek samay gnāyakakī pariṇati bhūlatā nahī̃n. gnāyakakī pariṇati, gnāyakakā vedan, use gnāyakakī hī pariṇati chālū hai. vikalpake sāth ākūlatāmen ekamek hotā nahī̃n. chāhe koī bhī bhāv ho, chāhe koī ūn̐chese ūn̐che bhāv ho, shubhabhāv ho, koī bhī (bhāv) ho, usamen vah ekatva nahīn hotā. bāharamen use dikhāī de, bahut ullās dikhāī de to bhī vah koī bhī bhāvamen ekatva nahīn hotā. usakī gnāyakakī pariṇati chālū hī rahatī hai. pratyek samay bhinna (rahatī hai). usakī dishā hī badal gayī hai. vibhāvakī or jo dr̥uṣhṭi thī, vah palaṭakar usakī dishā hī badalakar gnāyakakī or gayī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- arthāt vahān̐ gnāyakakā ekatva chālū hai?

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, gnāyakakā ekatva chālū hai. gnāyakamen ekatva aur anyase vibhakta. ek puruṣhārthamen donon ā jāte haĩn. bhedagnānakī dhārā chālū hai aur yahān̐ gnāyakakā ekatva chālū hai. kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen vikalpa karake judā nahīn honā paḍatā, parantu pratyek udayamen vah judā hī rahatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ek paryāyamen do bhāg ho gaye?

samādhānaḥ- ek paryāyamen do bhāg nahīn hote, parantu astitvakī orase lo to gnāyakakī dhārā hai aur is or dekho to use bhedagnānakī dhārā hai. use do bhāv bhinna paḍate haĩn. do paryāy nahīn hotī, lekin do bhāv bhinna paḍate haĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- ek paryāyamen do bhāv ho jāte hain?

samādhānaḥ- do bhāv hote haĩn. astitvake sāth nāstitva ā hī jātā hai. apanā

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astitva āyā usamen nāstitva ā jātā hai. vibhāvase virakti aur svabhāvakī orakā astitva grahaṇ kar liyā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- usake liye koī dr̥uṣhṭānta? jisase gnānīkā svarūp khyālamen āye ki yah virakti kis prakārase hai? gnānīkā sahaj puruṣhārtha jo chalatā hai, us sahaj puruṣhārthakā koī dr̥uṣhṭānta?

samādhānaḥ- usakā puruṣhārtha chālū hī hai. gnān-vairāgyakī shakti, achintya shakti, gnān-vairāgyakī aisī shakti hai ki kahīn ekatva nahīn hotā, bhinna hī bhinna sadā rahatā hai. sadā bhedagnānakī bhāvanā, avichchhinnarūpase bhedagnān bhātā hai. arthāt andaramen avichchhinna dhārāse svarūpamen sthir nahīn ho jāye, vahān̐ bhedagnān yānī is or bhedagnān lenā aur antaramen gnāyakadhārākī ugratā karatā jātā hai, līnatā baḍhātā jātā hai. samyagdarshanamense pān̐chavā, chhaṭhṭhā munidashā paryant usakī gnāyakadhārā (baḍhatī jātī hai), gnāyakakī līnatā baḍhatī jātī hai. is orakā yah puruṣhārtha hai. gnāyakamen līnatā baḍhatī jātī hai. is or bhedagnānakī dhārā (chalatī hai), vikalpase bhinna paḍatā jātā hai. dr̥uṣhṭi apekṣhāse sab prakārase bhinna ho gayā. aur ācharaṇamen jo bākī hai, vah svayam gnāyakakī gnātādhārākī ugratā karatā jātā hai, līnatā baḍhātā jātā hai aur vibhāvase bhinna paḍatā jātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- isaliye vibhāv kaṭatā jātā hai.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, vibhāvase bhinna (hotā jātā hai). usakā ras thā vah nahīn hai. pratyākhyā, apratyākhyān ādikā jo kaṣhāy hai, vah chhūṭakar ... hote jāte haĩn. andar līnatā baḍhatī jātī hai, isaliye sab vibhāvakā ras, sthiti, ras sab ṭūṭate jāte haĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- gnāyakadhārākī jo shuruāt hai vah to prayatnapūrvakake vikalponse hī hotī hai na?

samādhānaḥ- shurūātamen vikalpa hote hain, lekin jo sahaj dhārā ho gayī, phir use vikalpa sāthamen nahīn rahatā. sahaj ho gayā, usake bād vikalpa sāthamen nahīn hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- shurūāt to prayatnapūrvakake vikalpase hī hotī hai?

samādhānaḥ- shurūāt, jab samyagdarshan nahīn huā hai, tab to vah abhyās karatā hai us vakta vikalpa sāthamen āte hain ki main gnāyak hūn̐, gnāyak hū̃n. aise vikalpa āye. lekin gnāyak ho gayā, gnāyakakī dhārā chālū ho gayī, nirvikalpa dashā ho gayī, phir bāhar āneke bād use vikalpa karake bhinna nahīn rahanā paḍatā. usakī gnāyakakī dhārākī pariṇati sahaj (chalatī hai). apanī ḍor apane hāthamen hī hai. vikalpa kiye binā, bhinna hī bhinna rahatā hai. vikalpa kiye binā puruṣhārthakī gati aisī chālū rahatī hai. vikalpa kiye binā, hai puruṣhārthakī gati parantu chālū rahatī hai. vikalpa binā puruṣhārthakī gati

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usakī chālū rahatī hai. koī bhī prasaṅgamen vah bhinna (rahatā hai). main to yah hūn̐, main yah nahīn, main to yah hūn̐, main yah nahīn hū̃n. usase visheṣh bhinna hotā jātā hai. līnatā karatā jāye to gnāyakadhārākī ugratā karake visheṣh bhinna hotā jātā hai. aisī usakī sahaj puruṣhārthakī ḍor vikalpa binā rahatī hai, aisī usakī puruṣhārthakī ḍor chālū rahatī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- bahinashrī! upayog bāhar ho to bhī līnatā baḍhatī jātī hai?

samādhānaḥ- upayog bāhar ho tab līnatā baḍhatī hai... upayog bāhar to bhī vah svayam rāgake sāth juḍatā thā, vah rāgake sāth kam juḍatā jāye to usamen līnatā jyādā hai. rāgake sāth kam juḍe to. upayogako bāhar jānaneke sāth sambandha nahīn hai, lekin rāgake sāth sambandha hai. bāhar juḍe usamen use rāg kis prakārakā hai. bhedagnānakī dhārā to use hotī hai. rāg aur gnāyak, donon bhinna hai vah to bhinna hī hai. bāhar upayog ho to kuchh jānatā ho to use rāgake sāth bhedagnānakī dhārā to chālū hī hai. lekin usamen kitanā juḍatā hai, usake ācharaṇ apekṣhāse kitanā juḍatā hai, vah usake chāritraguṇakī bāt hai. usakā ācharaṇ kitanā apanī or hai. utanā vah juḍatā hai. usamen jānaneke sāth sambandha nahīn hai.

āchāryadev upayogamen shrutagnānakā chintavan karate hain, lekin unako bāhar upayogamen rāg to mātra sañjvalanakā hī hotā hai. isaliye use jānaneke sāth sambandha nahīn hai. rāgake sāth sambandha hai. sañjvalanakā hī (rāg hī). thoḍī kṣhaṇ bāhar jātā hai, phir turanta svānubhūtimen jātā hai. abhī to vichār chalate ho, turanta svānubhūtimen jāte hain, phirase bāhar āte haĩn. utanā hī rāg hai ki usamen thoḍī der ṭikate hain aur punaḥ andar jāte haĩn. andar jākar phirase bāhar āye to jo vichār chalate the, vah chālū hote hain, vāpas andar jāte haĩn. isaliye unakā rāg kitanā hai, us par ādhār hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- mātājī! ek shlokamen aisā ātā hai, tabatak bhedavignān bhāo ki jabatak gnān gnānamen sthir na ho jāye.

samādhānaḥ- bhedagnān vahān̐ tak bhānā ki gnān gnānamen sthir na ho jāye. pūrā mokṣhamārga hī usapar hai. teremen ekatva aur vibhāvase virakta ho jā. vahān̐se samyagdarshanamen shurūāt huyī. svānubhūtimen to use bāharakā koī vikalpa hī nahīn hai. kisī bhī prakārakā. andar sthir ho gayā. lekin bāhar āye to bhedagnānakī dhārā chālū hai. bhedagnānakī dhārā chālū hai, vah bhedagnānakī dhārā tuje kabatak bhānī hai? jabatak vītarāg nahīn ho jāye, svarūpamen sthir nahīn ho jāye aur vikalpa pūrā ṭūṭ jāye, andar aise sthir ho jāye ki phir bāhar hī nahīn āye. aisī bhedagnānakī dhārā bhānī. bhedagnānakī dhārā bhānī

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arthāt bhedagnānake sāth tuje gnāyakakī dhārā andarase aisī bhānī ki tū svarūpamen sthir ho jā. phir bāharakā vikalpa hī nahīn āye.

aise bhedagnān-parase vibhakta aur svarūpamen ekatva, aisā usakā artha hai. svarūpamen tū ekatva huā, usamen aise sthir ho jā, aisī terī gnāyakakī gnātādhārākī ugratā kar, usake sāth bhedagnānakī dhārā, aise lenā. bhedagnānakī dhārā yānī jo-jo uday āte hain usase vah bhinna hotā jātā hai aur gnāyakakī dhārā ugra hotī jātī hai. is or lo to bhedagnānakī dhārā yānī vikalpase bhinna huā. jo-jo vikalpa āye usamen ṭikatā nahīn aur svarūpamen līn hotā hai. jo vikalpa āye usamen svarūpamen līn hotā hai, to usamen ṭikatā nahī̃n. bhinna to huā hai, visheṣh bhinna hokar svarūpamen līn hotā hai. usamen ugratā gnāyakakī ugratā, svarūpakī līnatākī ugratā tū aisī kar, aisī chāritradashā pragaṭ kar ki phir bāhar hī nahīn ānā paḍe. is or lenā bhedagnānakī dhārākī ugratā.

apane astitvamen kyā pragaṭ huā? vikalpase bhinna huā to yahān̐ kyā pragaṭ huā? yahān̐ gnāyakakī gnāyakadhārā pragaṭ huyī. shāntikī dhārā, samādhikī dhārā, līnatākī dhārā is or pragaṭ huī. to tū aisī līnatā kar, aisī gnāyakakī ugratā kar ki svarūpamen sthir ho jā aur phir bāhar hī nahīn āye. aur is or bhedagnānakī dhārā aisī kar ki vikalpa main nahīn hūn̐, vibhāv merā svabhāv nahīn hai. munioṅko aisī ugratā ho gayī ki vikalpa āye vah ṭikate hī nahī̃n. pānīke bahāvakī bhān̐ti pānī ākar chalā jāye, vaise turant svarūpamen līn hote haĩn. aisī unhen bhedagnānakī dhārā kaho yā svarūpakī līnatā kaho, aisī unakī gnāyakakī ugratā hai. ṭikate hī nahī̃n. jo bhī uday āye khisak jāte hai, turant khisak jāte haĩn. bhedagnānakī dhārā itanī ugra ho gayī. is or vikalpamen ṭikate nahīn, utanī bhedagnānakī dhārā ugra (hai), is or gnāyakakī ugra dhārā, līnatākī ugra dhārā ho gayī. svānubhūtikī dhārā ugra ho gayī hai. turant svānubhūtimen jāte haĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- pūjya bhagavatī mātājī! ruchikā poṣhaṇ aur tattvakā ghūṭan hameshā honeke liye āpane vachanāmr̥utamen batāyā hai. vah tattvakā ghūṭan to bahut karate hain, phir bhī hameshā nahīn hotā hai, kahān̐ kṣhati rah jātī hai? pūjya bhagavatī mātājī!

samādhānaḥ- ghūṭan karate hain, lekin tattvakī pahachānakar tattvakā ghūṭan yathārtha hove to hove. tattva jo hai usakā svabhāv barābar pahachāne. usako jāne, tattvakā svabhāv pahachāne aur antaramen jāye. puruṣhārthakī kamī hai. svabhāvako pahachānatā nahī̃n. ūpar-ūparase (chalatā hai). jyādā to ekatvabuddhi (chalatī hai). abhyās to vibhāvakā (hai).

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho!

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