Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 38.

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mumukṣhuḥ- bhāvabhāsan...

samādhānaḥ- usakī jignāsā, bhāvanā, laganī sab hotā hai tab hotā hai. usakī laganīke binā nahīn ho sakatā hai. andar vichār karake svabhāvako grahaṇ kare, andar sūkṣhma upayog karake bārambār vichār karake usako grahaṇ karanā chāhiye, to grahaṇ hotā hai.

yah sharīr to paradravya hai, vibhāv bhī apanā svabhāv nahī̃n. jo jānanevālā gnāyak hai, vah gnāyak ātmākā svabhāv hai, jānanekā svabhāv hai. usako grahaṇ karanā. mātra ūpar-ūparase grahaṇ karanā to nahīn hotā, bhītaramense grahaṇ karanā chāhiye. jab nahīn hotā hai tab aisā vichār hotā hai, aisā bārambār vichār kare, nakkī kare, parantu bhītaramense grahaṇ karanā hai to usakī jignāsā, laganī lage tab hotā hai. ātmāke binā chain nahīn paḍe, gaharāīse laganī lage tab (hotā hai), laganīke binā nahīn ho sakatā hai. bāharamen ekatvabuddhi anādikālase ho rahī hai. usase bhedagnān kare, ekatva toḍ ki merā svabhāv nahīn hai, main to ātmā hī hūn̐, main gnāyak jānanevālā hū̃n. aisā nakkī to kare parantu bhītaramense pariṇati hove, tab usakā grahaṇ hove, tab hotā hai. gnāyak par dr̥uṣhṭi karanī chāhiye, usakā gnān karanā chāhiye. vikalpase hotā hai, lekin bhītaramen sahaj hove tab yathārtha hotā hai. usake binā yathārtha (nahīn hotā).

mumukṣhuḥ- abhī vikalpa to rukate hī nahī̃n. jaise svādhyāy karate hain, jāp bhī dete hain, mān lījiye, to vikalpa to rukate hī nahīn hai.

samādhānaḥ- anādikā abhyās hai. anādikā veg chal rahā hai. usamen dhīrā hokar apaneko grahaṇ kare tab hove. pragnāchhainī jab pragaṭ hove, bhītaramen usakī sandhi (mālūm paḍe ki), gnān kyā hai aur vibhāv kyā hai, rāg kaun hai aur main kaun hūn̐, sandhiko barābar vichār kare, grahaṇ kare ki yah gnān hai, yah rāg hai. barābar sūkṣhma hokar usakā bhedagnān kare to hotā hai, usake binā nahīn ho sakatā.

ātā hai na ki, bārambār guru batāte haĩn. ... tab yadi apanī taiyārī jāgr̥ut hove tab hove, yadi jāgr̥ut nahīn hove to nahīn hotā hai. dhobīke gharase vastra lekar oḍh

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liyā, to kahate hain, merā vastra de de. aise guru bārambār kahate hain, terā svabhāv nahīn hai. tum bhinna ātmā ho. bārambār kahe tab yadi jāgr̥ut hove, puruṣhārtha kare tab jāgr̥ut (hotā hai). jāgr̥ut to svayaṅko honā paḍegā. vahī to karane jaisā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- hamako svayaṅko puruṣhārtha karanā hogā.

samādhānaḥ- puruṣhārtha karanā paḍatā hai. bahut puruṣhārtha kare, bārambār (kare). aisā abhyās to to din-rāt chaubīs ghaṇṭe vibhāv to ho rahā hai. usamen ek bār kare, do bār kare aise to nahīn hotā hai. bārambār use bhinna paḍanekī laganī honī chāhie. bārambār, kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen main bhinna hūn̐, bhinna hūn̐, bārambār (kare). raṭṭā lagātā hai, aise raṭanamātrase nahīn hotā hai. bhītaramense bhedagnān kare tab hotā hai.

main gnāyak hūn̐, abhed gnāyakako grahaṇ kare. athavā guṇ ananta, paryāy, usakā lakṣhaṇ, usakā bhed hai vah vāstavik bhed nahīn hai. ananta guṇ ātmāmen hai. guṇabhed, paryāyabhed par dr̥uṣhṭi nahīn karake, main gnāyak hū̃n. ātmāmen ananta guṇ hai, vah jān letā hai ki ātmāmen ananta guṇ-paryāy haĩn. lekin dr̥uṣhṭi to ek gnāyak par rakhatā hai. usakā bhedagnān kare tab hotā hai. puruṣhārtha karanā paḍatā hai. ... bal thā. sabako bhedagnān ho, aise.

... ātmā to jānanevālā hai. āhār-pānī sab ātmākā svabhāv to hai nahī̃n. peṭamen jātā hai, ātmāmen to jātā nahī̃n. āhār-pānī... jab vītarāg, kevalagnān hotā hai tab sab chhūṭ jātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ... chhūṭanekā prayojan hai.

samādhānaḥ- muni jaṅgalamen jāte haĩn. ātmākī kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen svānubhūti karate haĩn. kṣhaṇamen andar svānubhūti, kṣhaṇamen bāhar āve, kṣhaṇamen andar, kṣhaṇamen bāhar āve. koī shubh pariṇām hote haĩn. svādhyāy, ... aisā karate haĩn. āhārakā vikalpa kabhī āve to bāhar āve to kitanī jimmedārīse āhār lete haĩn. aise to lete nahī̃n. āhār kahān̐ ātmākā svabhāv to hai nahī̃n. nirāhārī hai ātmā.

... sab toḍane hī baiṭhe hain ve to. gnāyakako pragaṭ karanā, usamen kitanī jimmedārī hai. kisī bhī prakārakī apekṣhā nahīn hai, nirapekṣha haĩn. ātmākā dhyān kare. aise bhāvaliṅgī muniko dūsarī koī (apekṣhā nahīn hai). bhāvaliṅgī muni abhī koī dikhāī nahīn dete haĩn. kundakundāchārya, amr̥utachandrāchārya bhāvaliṅgī muni ...

āhārakī koī apekṣhā hī nahīn hai. svayam svayaṅkā lakṣhaṇ darshātā hai ki ye rahā maĩn. lekin dekhatā nahī̃n. gnāyak svayam svayaṅkī gnāyakatā dvārā darshātā hai ki ye rahā maĩn.

samādhānaḥ- ... antarakī jignāsā hove tab hotā hai. bhedagnān karanese hotā hai.

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antaramen taiyārī hove, sharīr aur ātmā, vibhāv vah apanā svabhāv nahīn hai. sharīrato paradravya hai, vibhāvasvabhāv apanā nahīn hai. chaitanya gnāyakamūrti ānandase bharā huā hai. gnānase bharā ananta guṇasvarūp koī apūrva padārtha hai. usakā ātmāmen yathārtha gnān karanā chāhiye, yathārtha shraddhā karanī chāhiye, usakī lagan laganī chāhiye. din-rāt laganī lage, usakā bhedagnān kare. jo-jo vikalpa āte hain, vibhāv hotā hain, un sabase main bhinna hūn̐, ātmā to bhinna svabhāv hai. gnāyakakā lakṣhaṇ pahachānanā chāhiye. lakṣhaṇake dvārā vah lakṣhya pahachānamen ātā hai. lakṣhaṇase ātmāko pahachānanā chāhiye. usakī shraddhā-pratīt yathārtha (honī chāhiye). ūpar-ūparase nahīn, bhītaramense hotā hai tab hotā hai.

bhedagnān karanā chāhiye. bārambār usakā bhedagnānakā abhyās karanese, din aur rāt, kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen aisā abhyās hove tab yah hotā hai. bārambār usakā vikalpase abhyās nahīn, sahaj honā chāhiye. pahale to usakī bhāvanā kare, jignāsā kare, vikalpase nakkī kare ki yah ātmapadārtha main hū̃n. parantu bhītaramense aisā sahaj abhyās bārambār honā chāhiye, tab hotā hai. nahīn hove tabatak usakī bhāvanā kare, jignāsā kare, tattvakā vichār kare. bārambār shāstra abhyās karake main ātmā hūn̐, aisā dhyey honā chāhiye ki muje ātmā kaise pragaṭ ho? aisī dr̥uṣhṭi, aisā gnān sab honā chāhiye. tab hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- āgamake dvārā to aisā paḍh lete hain, lekin jaisā āpane kahā ki andaramen bāt nahīn jātī hai, ....

samādhānaḥ- use barābar nakkī karanā chāhiye. bhītaramense honā chāhiye. bhītaramen laganī lage, usakī mahimā lage ki yah koī anupam padārtha hai. mahimā lage tab hotā hai. mahimā lage, bārambār vibhāvamen achchhā nahīn lage, yah sab ākūlatārūp hai. aisā bolanemātra nahīn, bhītaramen aisā lage ki yah sab ākūlatā hai, duḥkh hai, merā svabhāv nahīn hai. main yah chaitanyatattva koī apūrva sukhasvarūp hai, usakī laganī lage tab hove. shāstra abhyās nimitta hotā hai. parantu karanā to apaneko paḍatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- āpane sahaj pharamāyā, to sahaj aur puruṣhārtha, ye donon alag-alag chīj hai ki ek hī chīj hai?

samādhānaḥ- sahaj aur puruṣhārtha, puruṣhārtha aur sahaj, ye donon alag chīj hai. puruṣhārtha karanā, sahaj puruṣhārtha. sahaj kab hotā hai? sahaj guṇa. gnānaguṇ, darshanaguṇ ādi sahaj svabhāv hai. anādiananta sahaj padārtha sahaj svataḥsiddha kisīne banāyā nahīn aisā sahaj hai. dravya sahaj hai, guṇ sahaj hai, sab sahaj hai, paryāy sahaj hai. parantu puruṣhārtha sahaj honā chāhiye.

gnānaguṇ bhī sahaj hai. svataḥsiddha hove usako sahaj kahanemen ātā hai. lekan puruṣhārtha

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sahaj honā chāhiye. vikalpase kr̥utrimatāse kare ki yah main hūn̐, vichār karake nakkī kare. pahale to aisā vichār karake nakkī karanā paḍatā hai. bādamen usakī dashā hī aisī ho jāye. rāg-dveṣhakā anādikā abhyās hai to usako vikalpa nahīn karanā paḍatā hai. vah to usakā veg sahaj hotā hai. anādikā abhyās chal rahā hai to aisā use sahaj jaisā ho gayā hai. vah to vāstavik vibhāv hai. vah vāstavik sahaj nahīn hai, vah vibhāv to kr̥utrim hai. apanā svabhāv hai vah sahaj hai. parantu usakā abhyās sahaj honā chāhiye. puruṣhārtha, puruṣhārtha sahaj honā chāhiye. svabhāv sahaj to anādiananta hai, puruṣhārtha sahaj honā chāhiye.

puruṣhārtha kr̥utrimatā karake, haṭh karake kare to aise haṭh karake pahale ātī hai to haṭhase nahīn hotā. sahaj antaramen aisā lage to bārambār pariṇati us or chalī jāye, puruṣhārthakī pariṇati chalī jāye. aise puruṣhārtha sahaj honā chāhiye. puruṣhārtha sahaj honā chāhiye. sahaj yānī svataḥ, svataḥ yānī dravya bhī sahaj, guṇ sahaj, aise puruṣhārtha sahaj honā chāhiye.

mumukṣhuḥ- jaise rāg-dveṣh karanā sahaj ho gayā hai. sahaj ho jātā hai, aisā sahaj bhāv, aisī sahajatā.

samādhānaḥ- aisī sahajatā. pahale to tattvakā vichār kare. tattva vichāra. tattva vichār na chale to usake liye shāstra abhyāsa. shāstra abhyās yānī shāstra abhyās kar liyā, aise nahī̃n. mujhe ātmā kaise samajhamen āye, aisā dhyey rakhakar karanā ki main ātmā kaise samajhun? mere dravya-guṇ-paryāy kyā hai? parake kyā hai? main kaise samajhun̐? aisī jignāsā (sahit kare). shāstra paḍh liyā, kar liyā to sab ho gayā, mainne to bahut kiyā, aisā nahīn honā chāhiye. bahut karanā bākī hai, mujhe bhītaramen bahut karanā bākī hai. shāstra abhyāsase sab kuchh nahīn ho jātā. bhītaramen bahut karanā bākī hai. aisī bhāvanā, jignāsā, usakī laganī laganī chāhiye. sarva pratham yah hai.

shāstra abhyās, tattva vichār kare. parantu tattva vichār karake bhī main ātmā kaise grahaṇ karun̐? aisā honā chāhiye. laganī laganī chāhiye. ātmākī mahimā honī chāhiye. sachchā gnān honā chāhiye. lekin vah gnān mātra raṭanamātra nahīn, yathārtha gnān honā chāhiye. usakā upāy to yahī hai. laganī lagāye, tattvakā vichār kare, shāstra abhyās kare. lekin shāstra abhyās karane mātra nahīn, dhyey rakhanā chāhiye. ātma svarūpako samajhanā chāhiye.

sachchā gnāna. sachchā gnān karanekā puruṣhārtha to apaneko karanā paḍatā hai. mātra shāstra abhyās to ananta kālase bahut kar liyā. lekin bhītaramen ātmāko nahīn pahachānā. apaneko nahīn jānatā, sabako jān letā hai. apaneko nahīn jānatā hai to kyā huā?

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apaneko jāne. ek apaneko jāne to sabako jān letā hai. sabako jāne aur apaneko nahīn jāne to kyā jānā?

mumukṣhuḥ- gyārah aṅgakā jānanevālā apane ātmāko nahīn jānatā hai kiyā? usamen ātma vastu nahīn ātī hai?

samādhānaḥ- ātmavastuko vah vāstavik nahīn jānatā. aise hī jānatā hai. aise hī paḍh letā hai. bhītaramense gyārah aṅg ho jātā hai. ātmā hai, gnān hai, paryāy hai, guṇ hai, sab jān letā hai. main ātmā hūn̐, usakā yathārtha svarūp bhītaramense nahīn jānatā. aise jānatā to hai, yathārtha nahīn jānatā hai, bhītaramense nahīn jānatā hai. ātmā rah gayā, ātmākī pariṇati pragaṭ karanī rah gayī, bākī sab kuchh jān liyā. gyārah aṅg jān liyā, sab ho gayā.

mumukṣhuḥ- vah to mātra kṣhayopashamagnān kahalāyā.

samādhānaḥ- vah kṣhayopashamagnān mātra hī huā. ātmāko nahīn jānā, mātra kṣhayopashamagnān huā.

mumukṣhuḥ- mātājī! sarvārthasiddhike jo dev hain, ve (taintīs sāgar) tattva charchā karate haĩn. to usamen baḍī jignāsā hai ki kyā tattvacharchā karate hoṅge?

samādhānaḥ- anek prakārakī. dravya-guṇ-paryāy ādi. gnānakā samudra hai ātmā to. ananta guṇ, gnān to ananta-ananta bharā hai. usamen ananta apekṣhāen̐ hain, ananta dharma haĩn. ekamen sab ā jātā hai. ekamen sabakuchh aur usakā vistār kare to ananta ho jātā hai. isaliye sāgaropam, 33 sāgaropam tak charchā karate haĩn. gnān to ananta hai. bārah aṅg, chaudah pūrvakā gnān hotā hai to bhī usakī sīmī-maryādā hotī hai. parantu gnānakā svabhāv to ananta-ananta hai.

bhītaramen munikī bhān̐ti sthir nahīn jāte. isaliye chaturtha guṇasthān rahatā hai. chhaṭhṭhī- sātaven guṇasthānakī bhūmikā nahīn ātī. isaliye shāstra svādhyāyamen, charchāmen sab kāl jātā hai. charchāmen, bhagavānakī pūjāmen, aise nikālate haĩn. charchāmen, bhagavānakī pūjāmen, bhaktimen... ananta gnānakā dariyā hai. gnān to ananta-ananta hai. lokālokako jānanevālā ek samayamẽn. sab dravya-guṇ-paryāyako, dravya, kṣhetra, kāl, bhāv ananta kāl gayā, vartamān, bhaviṣhya ananta-anantako jānanevālā gnān aisā kevalagnān, us kevalagnānamen anantatā bharī hai. chaudah pūrva bārah aṅgakā gnān bhī sīmāvālā hai. to bhī usakī charchā karate haĩn. usakī mahimā aisī hotī hai shrutagnānakī to charchā karate haĩn.

samyagdarshan hai. samyagdarshanamen ek ātmāko jānā hai. ek ātmā jānā usamen sabakuchh ā jātā hai. usakā vistār kare to ananta ho jātā hai. ekamen sab ā jātā hai,

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lekin usakā vistār karanese ananta ho jātā hai. usameen charchā chalatī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ... to us samay gurudev apane andar chale jāte the?

samādhānaḥ- bhagavānakī mahimā, tattvakī ... vastu padārthakī unako mahimā ātī thī. isaliye āhā..hā.. (ho jātā thā). antaramen chale jāye to vikalpa chhūṭakar (jā sakate hain). āhā..hā.. hotā thā, usakī utanī mahimā ātī thī. ātmā aisā padārtha! aisā padārtha ātmā hai! aisā ātmā hai! aisī vastu hai! aisā tattvakā svarūp hai, isaliye usako āhā..hā.. hotā thā. bhagavān ātmā, bhagavān ātmākī mahimā lagatī thī. main ātmā bhagavān aisā hū̃n. aisā koī anupam padārtha ātmā bhagavān hai. apaneko pahachānā. bolate the, sab bhagavān hai. apane bhagavān ātmāko pahachān lenese sab bhagavān ātmā hai. bahut mahimāse bolate the. unako utanī mahimā ātī thī.

vastu tattva padārthakī, padārthake tattvakī utanī mahimā ātī thī, isaliye āhā..hā.. bārambār ātā thā. mahimā ātī thī, bhītar nahīn chale jāte, unako utanī mahimā, tattvakī bahut mahimā thī. dekhanevāle to dekhate hī rahate the ki kyā bolate hain ki kyā bolate hain? vastu padārtha kaisā hogā? sabako aisā lagatā thā, padārtha kaisā hogā? ātmā kaisā hogā? gurudev bār-bār āhā..hā.. bolate the. unako bahut mahimā ātī thī.

mumukṣhuḥ- tīrthaṅkarakā dravya..

samādhānaḥ- tīrthaṅkarakā dravya thā. yah samajho, samajho. yah padārtha koī anupam hai, use samajho. bār-bār samajhamen ātā hai? pahale to aisā kahe ki samajhamen ātā hai? samajhamen ātā hai? aisā bolate the. āhā.. āhā.. aisā padārtha! aisā padārtha sab samajho. padārthakī mahimā aisī ātī thī.

mumukṣhuḥ- svayam aisā mahimāvant hai.

samādhānaḥ- svayam aisā mahimāvant hai. usakī mahimā unako ātī thī. mahimāse bolate the, bhagavān ātmā. shāstrakā artha kare to oho..! āchāryadev aisā kahate hain! ātmākā svarūp āchāryadev aisā kahate hain! aisā karake āhā..hā.. ātā thā. āchāyākī, shāstroṅkī utanī mahimā ātī thī, tattva padārthakī utanī mahimā ātī thī. isaliye bārambār āhā.. āhā.. (ātā thā). tattva padārthakī unako bahut mahimā thī. dekhanevāle to dekhate rah jāte. ātmā kyā padārtha hogā? unakī vāṇī koī apūrva thī.

mumukṣhuḥ- tātkālik...

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, ekadama. gurudev aisā bolate hain to ātmā kaisā hogā? bārambār āhā.. āhā.. bolate the.prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho!