Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 40.

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samādhānaḥ- ... to hai nahī̃n. dravyasvarūpase dekhe to meremen yah nahīn hai, main to gnāyak shuddhātmā hū̃n. yah jo vibhāvik vastu to sab ūparase āyī huī, ūpar-ūparakī hai, mūl antaramen nahīn hai. isaliye mere mūlamen nahīn hai. vah āyī hai, ab vah ṭale kaise? isaliye use ṭālanekā prayatna aur apanā shuddha svarūp pragaṭ karanekā usakā prayatna chalatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- is prayojanase vah is prakārase vichār karatā hai? gnānamen aisā jānaneke bāvajūd, ruchimen main gnāyak hūn̐, is prayojanapūrvak?

samādhānaḥ- hā̃n. mere svabhāvamen to nahīn hai. use ruchi to aisī hai. ruchi, pratītamen aisā hai ki yah mere svabhāvamen nahīn hai. parantu vah hai to sahī. vah hai to ṭale kaise? mūl vastumen nahīn hai, lekin paryāyamen yah ūpar-ūparase āyā hai. ab vah ṭale kaise? mūl vastumen nahīn hai, parantu yah paryāyamen ūpar-ūparase āyā hai, vah ṭale kaise? use ṭālanekā prayatna (karatā hai). meremen nahīn hai, isaliye ab ṭālanekā prayatna kaise ho, usakā upāy khojakar svayam ṭālanekā prayatna karake, mere svabhāvamen nahīn hai, main usakā kartā nahīn hūn̐, main anādi ananta gnāyak hī hū̃n. donommen virodh nahīn hotā. yadi antaramen donoṅkī apekṣhā samajhe. mūlamen nahīn hai to vah ṭal jātā hai. mūlamen ho to ṭale kaise? mūlamen nahīn hai isīliye vah ṭalatā hai. mūlamen ho to-to usakā svabhāv ho jāye. to ṭale nahī̃n. aur vah duḥkharūp hai. apanā svabhāv to duḥkharūp hotā nahī̃n. isaliye yah sab ūparase āyā huā hai, vah pariṇati chalī jāye aur merā svabhāv hai vah pragaṭ ho jāye. isaprakār usakī ruchi apane svabhāvakī or rahatī hai ki main gnāyak hūn̐ aur yah ṭale kaise? yah sab use ruchimen rahatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- bahut sundar! mātājī! apane pīchhalī bār spaṣhṭīkaraṇ kiyā thā usamen āj bhī adhik spaṣhṭīkaraṇ huā. ... ruchimen aise lenā ki main to gnāyak hī hūn̐ aur rāg-dveṣh meremen merese atyant bhinna hai. meremen hote hī nahī̃n. main..

samādhānaḥ- bhinna hū̃n. bhinna hūn̐ to pragaṭarūpase bhinna paḍanekā use prayatna chalatā hai ki pragaṭarūpase bhinna kaise hoūn̐? gnānamen use donon āte hain ki yah meremen hotā

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hai, mere puruṣhārthakī mandatāse hotā hai, lekin vah merā svabhāv nahīn hai. isaprakār gnānamen sab jānatā hai. aur usamen (-ruchimen) main jānanevālā ek gnāyak hū̃n. meremen nahīn hai. pratītamen-ruchimen aise rahatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ruchi arthāt shraddhānamen use aisā rahatā hai ki mere dravyamen-svabhāvamen to rāg hai nahī̃n.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, shraddhā. shraddhā kaho, pratīt kaho, ruchi kaho.

mumukṣhuḥ- shraddhā anusār vartan (kyon nahīn hotā)? shraddhā-vishvās pakā huā, phikṣhar chāritramen kyon der lagatī ho?

samādhānaḥ- usake prayatnakī kachās hai. shraddhākā jor hai ki aise hī hai. to ānshik to use ho jātā hai. amuk ansh to pragaṭ ho jātā hai. jahān̐ shraddhā yathārtha hotī hai vahān̐ gnāyakakī pariṇit amuk prakārase to pragaṭ ho jātī hai. usase bhinna paḍ jātā hai. use svānubhūti hotī hai, usase bhinna paḍe, lekin use thoḍā bākī rahatā hai. vah usake prayatnakī kṣhati hai. lekin shraddhāmen itanā bal hai ki prayatna karake bhī avashya pragaṭ hotā hai. pār ho jāyegā. prayatna usakā chālū hī rahatā hai. usakā prayatna chhūṭ nahīn jātā. prayatna chālū hī rahatā hai.

kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen jo vibhāv pariṇati utpanna hotī hai, usake sāmane usakā prayatna utanā joradār khaḍā rahatā hai. shraddhākā bal aur gnāyakakī pariṇati svayam apanī or, apanī pariṇatiko khīn̐chatā huā svayam pratikṣhaṇ khaḍā rahatā hai. usake prayatnamen jitanā ho utanā use sahajarūpase rahatā hai. bākī thoḍī der lagatī hai, prayatnakī kachās hai isaliye.

gnāyakadhārā pratikṣhaṇ maujūd rahatī hai. usamen (-vibhāvamen) tanmay nahīn ho jātā. utanā prayatna usakā pragaṭ huā hai. shraddhāke balake sāth utanā prayatna to use joradār rahatā hai ki ekatva hotā hī nahī̃n. usake sāth jo anādise ekatva thā, ab ekatva nahīn hotā. bhinna hī bhinna, pratyek kāryamen bhinna hī rahatā hai. svānubhūtikī dashā pragaṭ huyī. (vibhāvake) sāth ekatva to hotā hī nahī̃n. kisī bhī kṣhaṇamen ekatva nahīn hotā. usake prayatnase ekatva (nahīn hotā). sahaj aisā usakā prayatna chalatā hai. koī kāryamen, vibhāv sambandhit koī vikalpamen, shubhāshubhake kisī bhī vikalpamen ekatva nahīn hotā. shubh vikalpa ūn̐chese ūn̐chā ho to bhī ekatva to hotā hī nahī̃n. kisī bhī kṣhaṇamen ekatva nahīn hotā. itanā prayatna usakā chālū rahatā hai. phir visheṣh prayatna chāritradashāmen der lagatī hai. kisīko turanta hotā hai, kisīko der lagatī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ... dhīrā hokar gnāyakako mukhya lakṣhaṇ dvārā pahachānakar vahān̐ sthir rahe athavā to usakā avalamban le to.. gnān lakṣhaṇ arthāt jānatā hai.. jānatā hai..

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vah main hū̃n. yah jānapanā hotā hai..

samādhānaḥ- bāharakā jānapanā nahī̃n. jo jānanevālā svabhāv hai vah main hū̃n. jānan lakṣhaṇ hai vah main hū̃n.

mumukṣhuḥ- bāharakā jānapanā nahī̃n. bāharakā jānapane dvārā yah jānanevālā hai vah main hū̃n.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, main jānanevālā hū̃n. vibhāvakā veg itanā chal rahā hai, us vegapūrvak bahatā hai usamen dhīrā hokar dekhe to svayaṅko grahaṇ kar sakatā hai. usakā vibhāvakā veg anādikā (chal rahā hai). usake vibhāvakī, vikalpakī jāl chal hī rahī hai, usamen dhīrā hokar dekhe to svayaṅko grahaṇ karatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ... bhaviṣhya, ālok, paralok..

samādhānaḥ- sabakī shakti... main yah chaitanya hūn̐, yah main nahīn hū̃n. is pariṇāmake aise phal hote hain, sab use nakkī ho jātā hai. usakī shraddhāmen nakkī ho jātā hai.

... svayaṅko grahaṇ kare. gnāyak gnān to jānanevālā svayam khaḍā hī hai. chāhe jo bhī vibhāv ho, usamen jānanevālā svayam to khaḍā hai. parantu svayaṅko jānaneke liye svayaṅko prayatna karanā chāhiye. sharīr bhinna dikhāī detā hai, vah jānatā nahī̃n. andar vibhāvasvabhāv to ākūlatārūp hai. us ākūlatāmense jo jānanevālā bhinna hai use grahaṇ kare. jo svataḥ jānanevālā hai, bāharakā jānatā hai isaliye jānanevālā hai, aise nahīn, lekin svataḥ jānanevālā hī hai. us jānanevāleko grahaṇ karanā apane hāthakī bāt hai. jānan gnāyakamen sab bharā hai, ananta mahimā bharī hai. lekin usakī mahimā āye to svayam grahaṇ kare. usakā lakṣhaṇ pahachānakar svayam grahaṇ kare to ho sake aisā hai. svayam grahaṇ kare to ho sakatā hai.

andar mahimāvant ātmāmen sab bharā hai. usakā lakṣhaṇ pahachānakar andar grahaṇ karanā chāhiye. jānanevālā svayam khaḍā hī hai, shāshvat khaḍā hai. jānanevālā svayam apanā lakṣhaṇ batā rahā hai ki ye rahā maĩn. lekin svayam use jānanekā prayatna kare to jānanemen āye na. jānanevālā hai vah sab jān hī rahā hai. jo andar vibhāv hote hain, jo rāg hotā hai, jo shubh, ashubh sab bhāvoṅko jānanevālā andar khaḍā hai. lekin svayam ekatvabuddhi karake use bhinna nahīn karatā hai ki yah jānanevālā hai to phir bhinna kyon nahīn (jānanemen ātā)? svayam bhinna kare, joradār prayatna kare to bhinna paḍatā hai. svayam joradār prayatna karatā nahī̃n. utanī ruchi, mahimā, apanā lakṣhaṇ pahachānaneke liye vichār karake, dhīrā hokar use grahaṇ kare to ho sakatā hai. bākī to apane hāthakī bāt hai.

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mumukṣhuḥ- mātājī! prārambh hī kaṭhin hai yā pūre mārgamen puruṣhārtha chāhiye?

samādhānaḥ- pratham bhūmikā vikaṭ hotī hai. shrīmadamen ātā hai na? pratham bhūmikā vikaṭ hotī hai. pratham bhūmikā... anādise use ekatvabuddhi gāḍh ho rahī hai, usamense use nikalanā vikaṭ hai. phir to mārga sahaj hai aur sugam hai. apanā svabhāv hai. aise sahaj svabhāvako usane pahachānā aur use pragaṭ huā, usake bād mārga sahaj aur sugam hai. pratham bhūmikā jitanī vikaṭ hotī hai, utanī usakī pratyek bhūmikā vikaṭ nahīn hotī. puruṣhārthakī dhārā to sabamen chālū hī rakhanī paḍatī hai. puruṣhārthakī dhārā to. lekin pratham bhūmik vikaṭ hotī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- use ṭikāye rakhanā vikaṭ hai.

samādhānaḥ- prāpta karanā vikaṭ hai. ṭikāye rakhanemen bhī puruṣhārtha chāhiye. prāpta kiyā hai use ṭikāye rakhanā vah apane puruṣhārthase (hotā hai), parantu prāpta karanā adhik vikaṭ hai. prāpta karaneke bād ṭikānā vikaṭ hai, lekin jise puruṣhārtha chalatā ho use vikaṭ nahīn hai. jisakā puruṣhārtha chhūṭ jātā ho use vikaṭ hai. puruṣhārtha chhūṭe to. jise puruṣhārtha chalatā ho use vikaṭ nahīn hai, puruṣhārtha nahīn chalatā ho usake liye vikaṭ hai, use ṭikānā vikaṭ hai. jo apratihat dhārāse chalā ho, chāron pahalūse (yathārtha prakārase) shurūāt kī ho, use ṭikānā vikaṭ nahīn hai. lekin jo chāron pahalūse nahīn chalā ho to usake liye vikaṭ hai. lekin pratham bhūmikā adhik vikaṭ hai.

... vikalpa ṭūṭ jāye to ātī hai. lekin pahale vichār karake nirṇay kare to usamen bhī use mahimā ātī hai. parantu yathārtha mahimā to usamen vah līn ho, svānubhūtikī dashā pragaṭ ho to use yathārtha mahimā ātī hai. svayam vichār karake nakkī karatā hai, vah vichār karake nakkī karatā hai, to bhī use mahimā ātī hai. ananta jīv mokṣhamen gaye hain, apanā svabhāv hai isaliye. anantane bhedagnānako pragaṭ kiyā, chāritradashā pragaṭ kī, ananta jīv mokṣhamen gaye hain, apanā svabhāv hai isaliye. pahale vikaṭ lagatā hai. vikaṭ honepar bhī nahīn ho sake aisā nahīn hai. kal vah sab āye the na? (kahate the), bahut vikaṭ hai. vikaṭ hai lekin nahīn ho sake aisā nahīn hai. svayam puruṣhārtha kare to ho sake aisā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- use prayatna chālū rakhanā chāhiye.

samādhānaḥ- prayatna chālū rakhanā chāhiye. .. jo chāron pahalūse nahīn chalā ho, koī kāraṇase shurūāt kī ho to use puruṣhārtha manda honekā kāraṇ banatā hai. chāron pahalūse chalā ho use puruṣhārthakī dhārā chalatī hai. to bhī puruṣhārtha to use ākhir tak apratihat dhārāse puruṣhārtha to karanā hī paḍatā

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hai. ... lekin use sahaj hai, haṭhapūrvak nahīn hai. shurūāt honemen pharka hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- kisīkī shurūāt aisī ho ki samyagdarshan ho aur vāpas..

samādhānaḥ- puruṣhārtha kam ho jāye, aisā hotā hai. shurūāt karanemen pharka hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- dharma sambandhī shaṅkā ho kaise? gurudev itanā ṭhos bolate haĩn.

samādhānaḥ- andar svarūp ko dekhā aur svānubhūti huī, use niḥshaṅkatā kyon nahīn āye? gurudev kitane niḥshaṅkatāse unakī vāṇīmen (kahate the).

mumukṣhuḥ- āpane yah kahā ki svayanse hī hotā hai. usamen āpakā bolanemen bahut jor thā. us vakta mujhe aisā lagā ki vākaīmen jor hai. āpane kahā ki, koī nahīn kar detā.

samādhānaḥ- svayam hī hai, koī kar nahīn detā. dev-guru-shāstra usamen nimitta hote hain, parantu upādān to svayaṅko hī karanā hai, taiyārī to svayaṅko karanī paḍatī hai. dev- guru-shāstra nimitta hote haĩn. anādikālase dev aur guru mile tab andar deshanālabdhi hotī hai. aisā sambandha hai. parantu taiyārī to svayaṅko karanī paḍatī hai, puruṣhārtha to svayaṅko hī karanā paḍatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- utanī ruchi kam hai?

samādhānaḥ- utanī ruchi, utanā prayatna sabakī kamī hai. kāraṇ pūrā de to kārya hue binā nahīn rahatā. kāraṇamen kachās hai isaliye kārya nahīn hotā.

mumukṣhuḥ- ... us vakta anādikā jo abhyās hai, usamen juḍaneke bād āpane jo hamen gnān diyā hai, āpane aur gurudevane, usase gnānako vāpas moḍate hain, parantu pahale to juḍ jāte haĩn.

samādhānaḥ- usamen juḍ jātā hai. phir use vichār āye ki yah merā svabhāv nahīn hai. parantu pahale juḍ jātā hai. ekatvabuddhi hai, anādikā abhyās hai, usamen juḍ jātā hai. parantu jise bhedagnān yathārtha ho, vah svayam juḍatā hī nahīn, bhinna hī rahatā hai. usakī gnānakī dhārā, gnāyakakī gnānadhārā bhinna hī rahatī hai aur yah ekatvabuddhike kāraṇ pahale juḍ jātā hai aur bādamen use bhāvanā, jignāsā hai isaliye vichār ātā hai.

vichār aur bhāvanā karate-karate, svayam prayatna karate-karate bhinna paḍe. prayatna karate- karate (bhinnatā kare). pahale to anādikī ekatvabuddhi hai isaliye juḍ jātā hai. parantu usakī bhāvanā, jignāsā, puruṣhārtha bārambār bhinna paḍanekā, bārambār-bārambār prayatna kare, usase thake nahī̃n. use rukhā nahīn lage, use gnāyakakī mahimā lage. use rukhā nahīn lage

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to bārambār prayatna karate. bārambār usakā nirantar chālū rakhe. anādise ekatvabuddhikā abhyās hai vah nirantar chaubīson ghaṇṭe chalatā hai. isakā thoḍā abhyās kare to (ho nahīn jātā). nahīn to apanā svabhāv hai, sahaj hai, lekin vibhāvake abhyāsake kāraṇ vikaṭ ho gayā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ... puruṣhārthakī jāgr̥uti ho aur bhedagnānakā mantra.. ātmākī vr̥uddhi ho, shānti ho aur hamārī gnāyakakī jyot...

samādhānaḥ- svayam puruṣhārtha karatā nahī̃n. jabatak nahīn hotā tabatak usakī puṣhṭi rahe. dev-guru-shāstrakī mahimā, vāñchan, tattvake vichār ādi karatā rahe. ashubhamense chhūṭakar shubhamen āye, lekin shuddhātmā to bhinna hai. us shuddhātmāko pahachānanekā, bhedagnān karanekā prayatna karanā. vah nahīn ho, tabatak shubhabhāv to bīchamen āye binā nahīn rahate. samyagdarshan ho, bhedagnān ho parantu bīchamen vibhāv pariṇām (āte hain), phir bhī use līnatākā puruṣhārtha chalatā hai.

pratham bhūmikā to vikaṭ hai. vikaṭ bhūmikāmen svayam bārambār usakā prayās karatā rahe. anādikī dr̥uṣhṭi par or hai, dr̥uṣhṭi apanī or nahīn hai. sab bāharakā dekhatā rahatā hai, antar ātmāko nahīn dekhatā. jo sahaj hai aur sugam hai, use dekhatā nahī̃n. isaliye durlabh ho gayā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- ātmā prāpta karaneke liye tīvra puruṣhārthakī jarūrat hai.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, tīvra puruṣhārthakī jarūrat hai. jise hotā hai use antarmuhūrtamen hotā hai. svayam hī hai. lekin nahīn ho usake liye tīvra puruṣhārtha karanekī jarūrat hai. kare to ho sakatā hai, nahīn ho aisā nahīn hai, lekin svayam karatā nahī̃n. ananta jīv puruṣhārtha karake mokṣhamen gaye haĩn. lekin svayam kare to hotā hai. ekatvabuddhi din-rāt chalatī hai, usamense bhinna hokar isakā abhyās to kuchh samay karatā hai. usakā abhyās yadi nirantar (kare).... lekin vah kab ho sakatā hai? utanī laganī lage to hotā hai, nahīn to kaise ho.

mumukṣhuḥ- haṭh yā jaldabājī kām nahīn ātī.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, jaldabājī kām nahīn ātī, haṭh kare to kām nahīn ātī. andarase svayaṅko sahaj laganā chāhiye, to hotā hai. nahīn ho rahā hai isali3e jaldī kare yā haṭh kare yā ākūlatā kare yā ulajhanamen ā jāye to kuchh nahīn hotā hai. bhāvanā ho. use bhāvanāke kāraṇ mārga nahīn sūjhatā isaliye usakī ulajhan aisī nahīn honī chāhiye ki svayam nirāsh ho jāye. aisā nahīn honā chāhiye.

mumukṣhuḥ- jab hāthamen nahīn ātā hai, us vakta prerak bal kaun-sā kārya karatā

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hai?

samādhānaḥ- ātmā hāthamen nahīn āye to bhī usakā bārambār prayās karate rahanā. main to bhinna hī hū̃n. usake vichār karatā rahe, usakī preraṇāke lie. karanā to yah ek hī hai. dūsarā to kuchh nahīn hai. mahimā nahīn ātī ho to mahimā lāye. usakā svabhāv pahachānanekā prayatna kare. dev-guru-shāstra, guru kyā kahate hain, jinendradevane kyā kahā hai? gurudevane upadeshamen bahut kahā hai. gurudevakā upadesh yād kare ki gurudevane kyā kahā hai? gurudevane to puruṣhārtha ho aisī bahut preraṇā dī hai. gurudevakā upadesh yād karanā. shāstra svādhyāy kare, vichār kare. lekin karanā to antaramen hai. bāhar thoḍā shāstra svādhyāy karake yah sab vichār, vāñchan karake mān le ki mainne bahut kiyā hai, aisā māne to nahīn hotā. karanekā antaramen hai.

gurudevakā upadesh preraṇā de rahā hai. gurudevakā upadesh itanā joradār thā ki dūsarekā puruṣhārtha chālū ho jāye, aisā unakā preraṇādāyak (upadesh) thā. tū kara. joradār sinhakī dahāḍ lagāte the. lekin svayam karatā nahī̃n. upādān to balavān thā, lekin svayanne hī nahīn kiyā hai. svayaṅke pramādake kāraṇ chaitanyako (jānā nahīn). "nij nayananī āḷase re nirakhyā na harine jarī.' svayaṅke pramādake kāraṇ svayam dekhatā nahī̃n.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho!