Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 42.

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mumukṣhuḥ- jab aisī anubhūti huī tab mainne likhā ki, nau tattvase rahit mujhe nahīn huā hai. main to nau tattvase rahit hū̃n.

samādhānaḥ- vah to dravya. paryāyamen to hai. dravya shuddha hai, usakī paryāyamen ashuddhatā hai. paryāy apekṣhāse nau tattva hai aur dravya apekṣhāse svayam abhed hai. paryāyamen, usakī jo vartamān paryāy arthāt avasthā hotī hai, usamen use puṇya-pāpake pariṇām hote haĩn. phir āge gayā isaliye samvarakī paryāy hotī hai. nirjarākī paryāy hotī hai. vah sab paryāy, jab tak sādhanā karatā hai, pūrṇa nahīn huā hai, sādhanā karatā hai, vahān̐ samvar hotā hai, nirjarā hotī hai, mokṣhakī paryāy hotī hai. lekin mātra us paryāy jitanā dravya nahīn hai. dravya anādiananta shāshvat hai, dravya anādiananta hai. aur paryāy hai, paryāy bilakūl hai hī nahīn, aisā nahīn hai. use bhūtārtha dr̥uṣhṭise dekho to abaddhaspr̥uṣhṭa ātmāmen nahīn hai. na hī ban̐dhā hai, na hī sparshit hai. sāmānya (hai), visheṣharūp nahīn hai.

jisane us dr̥uṣhṭise dekhā ki, kamalinīkā patra nirlep hai. kamal pānīse nirlep rahatā hai. lekin pānīkī orase dekhā to vah pānīse lipta hai. aur kamalakī orase dekho to vah lipta nahīn huā hai. aur dravyakī or dekhe to vah lipta nahīn huā hai. lekin usakī paryāyakī or dekho to vah lipta hai. yadi lipta nahīn ho to yah sukh-duḥkhakā vedan kise hotā hai? sah sab puruṣhārtha kyon karanā? bandh-mokṣha kyon karanā? isaliye vah donon dr̥uṣhṭi gnānamen rakhanī. aur ek dravyakī or dekhe to svayam lipta nahīn huā hai. aur paryāyakī or dekho to vah lipta hai. lekin use bhinna karake, anādise bhinna nahīn karatā. main lipta hūn̐, lipta hūn̐, aisā karatā rahatā hai. lekin use bhinna karake, main bhinna hī hūn̐, yah meremen nahīn hai. nahīn hai, aisā karatā hai to bhī khaḍā rahatā hai. bhedagnānamen pratīt kī to bhī khaḍā rahatā hai, isaliye svarūpamen sthir ho jāy, sthir ho jāy, adhik sthir hotā jāy to usakā nāsh ho. sthir hotā jāya. gr̥uhasthāshramamen amuk prakārase sthir huā hai. phir jab muni ho jāy, bāharakā sab chhūṭ jāy, jaṅgalamen chalā jāy, ātmākā dhyān kare, antarmuhūrta-antarmuhūrtamen ātmāmen jhulatā ho, tab use chhūṭe. phir bhī thoḍā rahatā hai. lekin phir ekadam svānubhūtimense bāhar hī nahīn āye

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aisī dashā hotī hai, tab pūrṇa hotā hai. tab vah vītarāg hotā hai. tab tak vah rahatā hai. tab tak pahale usakī sādhakadashā, samyagdarshanakī dashā hotī hai. pūrṇatāke lakṣhyase shurūāt (hotī hai). pūrṇa dravya, dravyako grahaṇ kar liyā. lekin abhī usakī dashā vedanamen ānandakī dashā pūrṇa ho, vah bādamen hotī hai. svānubhūti hotī hai us vakta akelā ānanda (hotā hai). bāhar āye to amuk prakārase shānti rahatī hai. bākī svānubhūtikā ānanda vah bāhar hotā hai, tab nahīn ātā hai. svānubhūtikā ānanda to koī alag hī hotā hai. usakā kisīke sāth mel nahīn hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- aisā hī us vakta lagā thā. jagatakī koī vastu prāpta kare aur ānanda nahīn ho, vaisā apūrva ānanda, ekadam bhinna prakārakā ānanda.

samādhānaḥ- (dravya svabhāv) to shāshvat hai. yah sab to ashuddha hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- vah apanī nij shakti hai. isaliye nij svarūp shakti hai aur shaktikā vahī svarūp hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- bahinashrīke vachanāmr̥ut pustak.. mumukṣhuḥ- mainne sab paḍhā hai. phir mālūm huā ki dravyako bhinna karake dekha. vah to koī alaukik bāt hai. svanyakā svayam hī jān sake, tab itanā bole na. mujhe aisā lagatā hai ki gurudev jaisī viral shakti hamāremen bhī pragaṭ ho. ... yogya honeke liye paryāy bhī svatantra hai, dravya bhī svatantra hai. donon vastuen̐ nirapekṣha haĩn. māno abhī .. dhāraṇ kar le, itanā lagatā hai ki chāritra kyon pragaṭ nahīn ho? .. dekhate hī nahī̃n. abhī chāritra grahaṇ kyon na karen? isīliye to pahalā prashna vah pūchhā. dūsarā kuchh nahī̃n. digambar nirgranth muni banakar aur chāritra grahaṇ karake... phir sogānījīkā paḍhā, itanā achchhā lagā ki māno unakī dashā aur merī dashā, jaise apane hī bhāv kyon na ho.

samādhānaḥ- ... shubhabhāv haĩn. ... vah bhī rāg hai. rāg hai lekin svayam andar bhedagnān kare. pahale bhinna ho jāya. shraddhā kare ki main gnāyak hū̃n. use mukhya rakhe parantu dūsarā gauṇamen to rahatā hai. kyoṅki jab tak pūrṇa chāritra na ho, tab tak bīchamen āye binā rahatā nahī̃n. chauthe kālamen gr̥uhasthāshramamen shrāvak rahate the. chakravartī, bharat chakravartī ādi sab chakravartī rahate the. lekin ve ātmāko bhinna jānate the. kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇ bhinna jānate the. dev-guru-shāstrakī mahimā āye to bhagavānake darshan karane jāte, unakī pūjā karate, svādhyāy karate, sab karate the. lekin unhen andar bhedagnān chālū rahatā thā. samajhe, antaramen vedan aisā hotā hai ki yah main bhinna hū̃n. use jāne ki main isase bhinna hū̃n. nirantar, aise sirpha bolanemātra nahīn, vikalpamātra nahīn, lekin andarase rahā kare kiaimain

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bhinna hī hūn̐, bhinna hī hūn̐, aisā use rahatā hai. lekin use sahajarūpase jab tak chāritra nahīn ātā hai, tab tak rahatā hai. chāritra use sahaj ātā hai. yadi use haṭh karake le to mushkil ho jātā hai. isaliye sahaj ātā hai. sahaj ātā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- svarūp sahaj hai isaliye..

samādhānaḥ- isaliye sahaj ānā chāhiye. kyoṅki svayaṅko vikalpa nahīn dikhatā ki gnāyakako mukhya karun̐, parantu andar vikalpa paḍe haĩn. hote hain sūkṣhma-sūkṣhma. andar jo rāg paḍā hai, vah use khaḍā hotā hai. isaliye use sahaj ānā chāhiye. bākī to bharat chakravartī to arīsā bhūvanamen kṣhaṇ bhar khaḍe the, aur saphed bāl dekhā to vairāgya ho gayā. ekadam antaramen ūtar gaye aur kevalagnān ho gayā. lekin utanī dashā andar sahaj ānī chāhiye. chāritra len, aisī bhāvanā āye lekin antar sahaj ānā chāhiye.

mumukṣhuḥ- utanā bal uchhalanā chāhiye. uttaraḥ- bhāvanā bhale ugra ho jāy ki chāritra le lūn̐, lekin andar utanā sahaj ānā chāhiye. svayam sahaj ṭik sake utanā nahīn āye to pahale use ekadam bhāv ā jāye, sab chhūṭ bhī jāye, likan antaramense ānā chāhiye, antaramense sahaj ānā chāhiye.

mumukṣhuḥ- gnāyak hī gney hai, gnāyak hī gney hai. bāhar terā gney hī nahīn hai, par gnāt hī nahīn hotā.

samādhānaḥ- gnāyak bhale gnāt hotā ho, gnāyak hī gnāt hotā hai, par gnāt nahīn hotā, lekin gnāyakakā svabhāv jānanekā hai. usak upayog rakhakar nahīn jānatā, bhale vah rāgase nahīn jāne, rāgase judā ho, lekin vah gnāyak hai. gnāyak hai, antaramen yadi vītarāgadashā ho to binā ichchhā sahajarūpase lokālokako jāne aisā hī usakā svabhāv hai. jānanekā svabhāv hai. gnāyak-jānanevālā kise kahate hain? usamen itanā jāne aur nahīn jāne aisā nahīn hotā, vah sab jānatā hai. aisā usakā jānanekā svabhāv hai. ananta-ananta jānanekā svabhāv hai. is lokake ananta dravya, ananta kṣhetra, ananta kāl, ananta bhāv, jitane ananta jīv hain, un sabakā jāne aisā usakā svabhāv hai. lekin vah use rāg rakhakar jānatā hai vah usakī bhūl hai. isaliye bhale use akelā gnāyak gnāt hotā ho, lekin gnāyakakā jānanekā svabhāv hai. vah jab pūrā hotā hai tab vah sab jāne, aisā usakā gnāyak svabhāv hai. bhūt kālamen kyā thā, vartamānamen kyā hai, bhaviṣhyamen kyā hogā, sab jāne aisā gnāyakakā svabhāv hai. aisā gnāyak hai, mahimāvant gnāyak hai. akelā gnāyak gnāt ho, shraddhāmen gnāt huā ki main gnāyaka. lekin gnāyak

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gnāyakarūp ho jānā chāhiye. gnāyak gnāyakarūpase shraddhāmen huā. usakī pariṇatimen anshamen huā, ānshik huā lekin pūrṇa honeke liye use prayās chāhiye. binā prayās nahīn hotā.

mumukṣhuḥ- vah kaisā prayās?

samādhānaḥ- bārambār gnāyak.. gnāyak.. gnāyak.. gnāyaka. use sahajarūpase gnāyak gnāyak honā chāhiye. gnāyak gnāyak karate-karate vah āge baḍhe to akelā gnāyak ho jātā hai. sabake bīch, vibhāvake bīch rahā to hai hī. vikalpa āte hain, vikalpake bīch rahā hai, lekin vikalpase bhinna huā. lekin use gnāyak.. gnāyak.. gnāyakakī ugratā ho jāy to vah hotā hai. gnāyakakī ugratā honī chāhiye, sahajarūpase.

jo gnāyak honevālā hai, usakī dashā hī alag hotī hai. use āhārakā vikalpa chhūṭ jāy, chalanekā vikalpa chhūṭ jāy, vah pūrā bhinna ho jātā hai, use sab vikalpa chhūṭ jāte haĩn. use āhārakā, nidrākā sab vikalpa chhūṭ jāya. aisā gnāyak ho jāy, (jab) gnāyakakī ugratā hotī hai (tab). lekin pahale to usakī shraddhā hotī hai. usakī shraddhā ho, usakī pariṇati ho, usakī svānubhūti ho, lekin use pūrṇa honemen to bahut prayās hotā hai tab hotā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- shraddhākā svabhāv to aisā hai ki ekako hī grahaṇ karatī hai.

samādhānaḥ- ek gnāyakako grahaṇ karatī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- yā to bāharakā, yā to..

samādhānaḥ- main gnāyak hūn̐, aise grahaṇ kare. lekin gnān sab jānatā hai. shraddhāmen to aisā ātā hai ki main gnāyak hū̃n. kṣhaṇ-kṣhaṇamen gnāyak hūn̐, aisā grahaṇ kiyā. lekin gnānamen jānatā hai ki abhī vikalpa khaḍe haĩn. vikalpa khaḍe hain tab tak gnāyakakī dashā pūrṇa nahīn hai. abhī vikalpa khaḍe hain tab tak gnāyakakī dashā pūrī nahīn hai. vikalpa meremen nahīn hai vah barābar, vikalpa nahīn hai vah barābar, lekin main gnāyak hūn̐, gnāyak- gnāyak karatā hai phir bhī abhī vikalpa khaḍe hain, vah use gnānamen rahatā hai. tab tak mujhe prayās karanā hai. vikalpa hai tab tak prayās karanā bākī hai. gnāyak-gnāyak bhale gnāyak dikhatā ho, dūsarā kuchh nahīn dikhāī de, phir bhī vikalpa khaḍe hain vah to svayam jānatā hai ki vikalpa to khaḍe hain, isaliye abhī prayās bākī hai. prayās karanā bākī hai. bhale gnāyak dikhāī de, phir bhī vikalpa to hai. isaliye prayās karanekā bākī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- nirvikalpa honā hai.

samādhānaḥ- hān̐, nirvikalpa honekā bākī hai. pūrṇa nirvikalpa. phir vikalpa hī

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utpanna na ho, aisā nirvikalpa. ek kṣhaṇ vikalpa chhūṭ jāy aisā nahīn, vikalpa utpanna hī na ho. aisā ho to pūrṇa hotā hai. pūrṇa honā is kālamen bahut mushkil hai. abhī to use shraddhā-samyagdarshan ho, phir āge baḍhanā, sahaj āge baḍhanā (kaṭhin hai).

mumukṣhuḥ- shraddhā aur gnānamen āpako doṣh dikhatā hai?

samādhānaḥ- āpakā adhik parichay karun̐ to mujhe mālūm paḍe. bākī āp bolate ho usamen to..

mumukṣhuḥ- main kal āpake pās āūn̐gī.

samādhānaḥ- ... usakī shraddhā bhī antaramense ānī chāhiye. bahut prakār hote haĩn. vikalpase shraddhā kare, antarase shraddhā kare, phir vibhāvako gauṇ kare lekin antaramen abhī karanekā bahut bākī rahatā hai. bahut karanekā bākī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- sab karanā hai, chāhe jitanā bākī kyon na ho.

samādhānaḥ- lekin gnāyakakī dashā, svānubhūtikī dashā.. antaramen jo karanā hai, usamen bāharase kuchh karanā nahīn hotā, antaramen svayaṅko karanā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- āpako mainne dekhā nahīn thā, lekin āpake hr̥udayakā khyāl thā. kal rātako mainne itanī prārthanā ki thī, gurudev! bahinashrīkī vāṇīmen ākar mujhe samajhānā. itanā... ham aise kūtteke pillakī bhān̐ti gurudevake charaṇamen baiṭhen...

samādhānaḥ- unakī ṭepamen pahāḍī aur lokhaṇḍī āvāj lagatī hai, gurudevako sākṣhāt dekhe hon to kyā lage?

mumukṣhuḥ- itanā aphasos hotā hai, lekin kyā ho?

samādhānaḥ- ṭepamense itanī asar hotī hai..

mumukṣhuḥ- itanā aphasos rahatā hai, kyā karen?

samādhānaḥ- kyā kare? svayaṅko puṇya nahīn the to mil nahīn sake. puṇyakī bāt hai, kyā ho?

mumukṣhuḥ- usake liye to main kitanī rotī hū̃n. sirpha is ek bātake liye, vāṇī sunate-sunate. dekhe binā kaise shraddhā ho? jain nahīn ho, dekhe nahīn ho, kise aisī shraddhā ho?

samādhānaḥ- hajāron logommen gurudevakā pahāḍī āvāj, log samajhe, na samajhe lekin mugdha hokar āshcharyachakit hokar sunate the. ātmā.. ātmā.. ātmā shabda āye, sunate. hajāron logommen unhonne vyākhyā diye haĩn.

mumukṣhuḥ- .. pravachan thā to yah shabda, gurudevake yah shabda, par jānanemen nahīn ātā, bhagavān ātmā, tere har upayogamen bhagavān ātmā tujhe jānanemen ā rahā hai,

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aur tū gneyako dekh rahā hai? bhagavānako pīṭh dikhātā hai? main to pravachanamen kitanā kahatī hū̃n. aisī hī shaktise.

samādhānaḥ- bhāvanā ... bahut ugra... sarvagna svabhāvakī shraddhā karake āge jānā bākī rahatā hai. pahale shraddhākā bal āye, phir āge baḍhanā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- āge baḍhaneke liye hī koī sachchā satasamāgam chāhiye. main vahī kahatī hū̃n.

samādhānaḥ- āp bārambār malāḍ jāiye. muumukṣhuḥ- āpane yah āgnā dī hai, main jāūn̐gī. lekin is prakār pahale log kitanī hī jagah dikhāte hain ...

samādhānaḥ- ... to bhī vikalpa khaḍā rahatā hai. to bhī vikalpa khaḍā rahatā hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- sachchī bāt hai. isīliye tr̥upti nahīn hotī.

samādhānaḥ- shraddhā kī to bhī tr̥upti to hotī nahī̃n.

mumukṣhuḥ- isīliye to pūchhanā paḍatā hai.

samādhānaḥ- meremen nahīn hai, gnāyak hū̃n. aisī shraddhā kī ki meremen kuchh nahīn hai, vah bāt sachchī hai. nahīn hai, phir bhī khaḍā hai. ab use ṭālanekā (prayatna karanā).

mumukṣhuḥ- isīliye to ham tr̥upta nahīn hote haĩn. abhī aisā lagatā hai ki abhī bākī hai, bākī hai. yah ho gayā aur tr̥upta ho gaye, ab kuchh (nahīn karanā hai), aisā nahīn hai. tr̥upti nahīn hotī, isīliye to yah...

samādhānaḥ- vāñchanamen jāo to pharka paḍegā. chīmanabhāī paḍhate hain, unake vāñchanamen jāo.

mumukṣhuḥ- to bhī kyon jīvako samyagdarshan nahīn hotā?

samādhānaḥ- sachchī deshanālabdhi huī ho to samyagdarshan hotā hī hai. deshanālabdhi sachchī huī ho to samyagdarshan hotā hai. bhale hī der lage, lekin hotā hī hai. deshanālabdhike sāth to sambandha hai. sākṣhāt satpuruṣhakā upadesh use prāpta ho, sākṣhāt mile, shāstra nahīn, sākṣhāt mile aur antaramen yadi vah utāre to deshanālabdhi hotī hai. aur deshanālabdhi jise ho use bhale hī us vakta nahīn, parantu kālāntaramen bhī samyagdarshan hotā hai.

nishchayakā grahaṇ karake sāthamen jo paryāy hai, use jānanekī āvashyakatā hai. jo hai usamen kaun-sā, kis prakārakā vah ḍhūṇḍhanā paḍatā hai. use antarase aisī bhāvanā hotī hai. gurudev mile nahīn hai isaliye unhen aisā (hotā hai). ham yahān̐ barasonse rahe. unakī

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guñj sunāī detī hai. karanā svayaṅko antaramen hai. apanī bhāvanā ho vah bhaviṣhyamen phalatī hai, abhī nahīn phale to, bhaviṣhyamen phalegī.

mumukṣhuḥ- bahut dhīrajakā kām hai.
samādhānaḥ- hān̐, dhairya rakhanekī jarūrat hai.
mumukṣhuḥ- dhīraj aur vaisī kī vaisī ruchi.
samādhānaḥ- dhairya rakhanā hai.
mumukṣhuḥ- ek shuddhātmā...

shuddhātmāko samajhānevāle shrī bhagavatī mātano jay ho!

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