Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (simplified iso15919 transliteration). Track: 85.

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ક્યા પર્યાયકે ષટ્કારક સ્વતંત્ર હૈ?    0   Play
kyā paryāyake ṣhaṭkārak svatantra hai?    0   Play

‘ન જાણેલાનું શ્રદ્ધાન ગધેડાના સિંગડા જેવું છે’ પણ મુનિને જે આગમજ્ઞાન હોય પણ શ્રદ્ધાન ન હોય તો તે શું કાર્યકારી નથી?    1:00   Play
‘na jāṇelānun shraddhān gadheḍānā siṅgaḍā jevun chhe’ paṇ munine je āgamagnān hoy paṇ shraddhān na hoy to te shun kāryakārī nathī?    1:00   Play

અનુકૂળતામાં પણ દુઃખ જ છે તે વિષે...    2:35   Play
anukūḷatāmān paṇ duḥkh ja chhe te viṣhe...    2:35   Play

આસ્રવથી નિવૃર્તી કેવી રીતે થાય?    6:30   Play
āsravathī nivr̥urtī kevī rīte thāy?    6:30   Play

સાચો વૈરાગ્ય હોય ત્યાં તેને દુઃખ પરિણતી નથી તે વિષે.    7:35   Play
sācho vairāgya hoy tyān tene duḥkh pariṇatī nathī te viṣhe.    7:35   Play

જ્ઞાન અને વૈરાગ્યની સંધિ વિષે...    9:10   Play
gnān ane vairāgyanī sandhi viṣhe...    9:10   Play

દ્રવ્યલિંગી મુનિ જ્ઞાન ઔર વૈરાગ્ય દોનોં કરતે હૈં ફિર ભી સિદ્ધિ ક્યોં નહીં હોતી?    12:15   Play
dravyaliṅgī muni gnān aur vairāgya donon karate hain fir bhī siddhi kyon nahīn hotī?    12:15   Play

ક્યા અનુભવ પહલે મુમુક્ષુ સચ્ચા જ્ઞાન ઔર વૈરાગ્ય કર સકતા હૈ?    16:35   Play
kyā anubhav pahale mumukṣhu sachchā gnān aur vairāgya kar sakatā hai?    16:35   Play

mumukṣhuḥ- paryāyake ṣhaṭakārak svatantra hai?

samādhānaḥ- dravyadr̥uṣhṭise svatantra hai. paryāy apekṣhāse paryāyake svatantra aur dravya apekṣhāse dravyake svatantra. bākī paryāy dravyake āshrayase hotī hai. dravyake āshray binā paryāy nahīn hotī hai. apekṣhāse use gauṇ karake svatantra kahanemen ātā hai. dravyakī apekṣhāse use svatantra kahakar, paryāyako gauṇ karake use svatantra kahate haĩn. vah dravyakī paryāy hai. dravyako chhoḍakar paryāy kahīn alag nahīn laṭakatī hai. paryāy bhinna, ekadam sarva prakārase bhinna ho to vah dūsarā ek dravya ho jāya.

mumukṣhuḥ- ..nahīn jāne huekā shraddhān kharagoshake sīṅg samān hai. muniko āgamagnān ho aur ...

samādhānaḥ- kyā? jānā hai, phir bhī shraddhān nahīn hotā? jānā huā vah aisā jānā huā kahanemen ātā hai. antarase jānā ho to use shraddhā huye binā nahīn rahatī. jānā huā yānī.. kyā kahā? āgamagnān..?

mumukṣhuḥ- āgamagnān ho aur tattvārtha shraddhān na ho.

samādhānaḥ- āgamagnān to kiyā, lekin yadi antaramen shraddhā nahīn kī. arthāt usane shraddhā to aise kī hai, parantu antarase nahīn kī hai. isaliye vah jānā hai, vah aisā jānā hai ki antarakī pariṇatiko milākar nahīn jānā hai. kṣhayopashamase jānā hai. parantu antarakī pariṇatiko milākar, antarakī pariṇatike sāth jo jānanā chāhiye, vaise nahīn jānā hai, isaliye usake sāth tattvashraddhān nahīn hai. parantu jisane sachchā jānā ho, usake sāth tattvārtha shraddhān hue binā nahīn rahatā. aur tattvārtha shraddhān sachchā ho, usake sāth sachchā gnān hotā hai.

... duḥkh yānī bahut ākulatā kare, aisā nahīn hai. andarase svayaṅkī pariṇati hī aisī hotī hai ki kahīn ṭikatī nahī̃n. antaramen kuchh dūsarā chāhiye. kahīn shānti nahīn lagatī. kr̥utrimatāse duḥkh hai, duḥkh hai, use duḥkh nahīn kahate. ekatvabuddhi ho rahī hai, use kahān̐se dikhe? ras lagā hai, anukūlatāmen bah jātā hai. jo ātmāko pahachānatā hai, use anukūlatāmen bhī duḥkh lagatā hai. anukūlatā bhī ātmāko sukh denevālī nahīn

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hai. vah bhī ākūlatārūp hai. vah apanā svabhāv nahīn hai. vah upādhi hai, vibhāvakī upādhi hai, anukūlatā hai vaha. devalokakā sukh bhī upādhi hai. vah ātmāko sukharūp nahīn hai.

samyagdr̥uṣhṭi devalokamen ho to use antar ātmāmen sukh lagatā hai, bāhar kahīn nahīn lagatā. anukūlatāke gañj ho to bhī samyagdr̥uṣhṭiko kahīn sukh nahīn lagatā. anukūlatāmen khīñchātā nahī̃n. aur pratikūlatāmen ekadam use khed ho jāye aisā bhī nahīn hai. anukūlatāmen khīñchātā nahīn aur pratikūlatāmen shānti rakhatā hai. pratikūlatāmen ākulatā nahīn karate, usamen bhī shānti rakhatā hai. anukūlatāmen bah nahīn jāte.

agnānadashāmen usane bhrāntike kāraṇ isamen sukh hai, aisā mānā hai. bah jātā hai. kisīko vairāgya āyā ho to aisā lage ki yah anukūlatā ātmākā svarūp nahīn hai. parantu antarase jo laganā chāhiye, vah alag bāt hai. .. bhī ākulatā hai, anukūlatā bhī upādhi hai. .. rāj ho to bhī vah upādhi, ākulatā hai, ātmākā svarūp nahīn hai. bāharase jitanā bhī āyā ho, vah ātmākā nahīn hai.

svayam ātmākā svabhāv honese antarase jo sukh āye, vah sachchā sukh hai. svayam āye vaha. ... āyā nahīn hai, lekin vichār kare to bāharamen kahīn sukh nahīn hai. usamen sukh nahīn hai aur svabhāvakī ruchi kare, prayatna kare to sukh pragaṭ hotā hai. vichār kare ki sab vibhāv duḥkhamay hai. apanā svabhāv nahīn hai. svabhāvake āshrayase sukh, parake āshrayase duḥkh hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- āsravose nivr̥utti kyon nahīn hotī?

samādhānaḥ- ātmāko pahachāne to āsravonse nivr̥utti ho. antaramen ātmāko-gnāyakako pahachāne, bhedagnānakī pariṇati ho, andar vignānaghan svayaṅkā svabhāv hai. us vignānaghan svabhāvamen pariṇati ho, usamen jamatī jāy to āsravase nivr̥utti ho. antaramen bhedagnān ho to āsravase nivr̥utti ho. antaramen vignānaghan svabhāvako pahachāne binā āsravase nivr̥utti nahīn hotī. andar bhedagnānakī pariṇati vignānaghan dashā hue binā āsravase nivr̥utti nahīn hotī.

svabhāvakī pariṇati pragaṭ ho, svabhāvakī kriyā pragaṭ ho to āsravase nivr̥utti ho. gnāyakako pahachāne. gnāyakakī shraddhā, gnāyakakā gnān aur gnāyakamen amuk prakārase ramaṇatā. visheṣh ramaṇatā to munidashāmen hotī hai. vignānaghan svabhāv baḍhatā jāye, vaise āsravonse nivr̥utti hotī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- .. vairāgī pariṇati?

samādhānaḥ- vairāgī pariṇati jo antaramen hotī hai, vah duḥkharūp pariṇati... parantu

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vah vāpas muḍatā hai. svabhāvakī or use ruchi ho to vah sachchā vairāgya hai. duḥkharūp pariṇati nahīn hai, parantu sachchā vairāgya hai vah duḥkharūp pariṇati nahīn hai. duḥkhagarbhit vairāgya ho to vah duḥkharūp pariṇati hai. sachchā vairāgya ho to vah duḥkharūp pariṇati nahīn hai. vignānaghan svabhāv baḍhatā jāy, usamen vibhāvase nivr̥utti aur vibhāvase virakti hotī hai aur svabhāvakī or pariṇati hotī hai. isaliye vah duḥkharūp nahīn hai. virakti dashā, gnāyakakī pariṇati visheṣh pragaṭ hotī jātī hai.

mumukṣhuḥ- shāntirūp hai?

samādhānaḥ- shāntirūp hai. vibhāvakī pravr̥uttise nivr̥utti ho aur svabhāvakī pariṇati hotī hai. virakta dashā. sachchā vairāgya use kahate hain ki antaramen gnāyakakī pariṇati ho aur vibhāvase virakti ho. shāntimay dashā hai. duḥkhagarbhit vairāgya ho vah alag bāt hai.

.. gnān aur vairāgya sāthamen rahate haĩn. shāstrako jānatā hai, sab karatā hai, lekin bhītaramen yadi vairāgya nahīn huā to kis kāmakā? akelā shuṣhkagnān kyā karatā hai? bhītaramen virakti, vibhāvase virakti honī chāhiye. aur sāthamen vairāgya hove. sansāramen achchhā nahīn lage. svabhāvamen sabakuchh hai. aisī ruchi, nirṇay aisā honā chāhiye. mātra shāstra paḍh le, parantu bhītaramen main ātmākā kalyāṇ karun̐, aisā yadi sāthamen vairāgya nahīn ho to akelā gnān kuchh nahīn kar sakatā.

koī akelā vairāgya kare ki sansāramen duḥkh hai, aisā hai, aisā karake vairāgya karatā hai, sab chhoḍ detā hai, tyāg karatā hai, vrat karatā hai, sab karatā hai. parantu jānā kahān̐? kis mārga par jānā hai? yah gnān nahīn hove to kis kāmakā? jīvane aisā ananta bār kiyā. sab duḥkh lagā, sansāramen duḥkh hai. sab chhoḍakar muni huā, aisā huā. parantu gnān nahīn hai, ātmākā gnān nahīn huā. vah kis kāmakā? donon sāthamen hone chāhiye.

akelā gnān aur akelā vairāgya karanese lābh nahīn hotā hai. gnānake sāth vairāgya honā chāhiye aur vairāgyake sāth gnān honā chāhiye. gnān aisā prayojanabhūt to honā chāhiye ki kis mārga par jānā hai? kahān̐ jānā hai? ātmākā kyā svabhāv hai? ātmāmen sukh hai, ātmāmen ānanda hai. aisā gnān honā chāhiye. yah vibhāv merā svabhāv nahīn hai. merā svabhāv gnāyak svabhāv hai. aisā gnān sāthamen honā chāhiye. ātmāke dravya-guṇ-paryāyakā (gnān honā chāhiye). ātmākā dravya kyā, guṇ kyā, paryāy kyā. sabakā gnān honā chāhiye.

akelā tyāg kar detā hai, chhoḍ detā hai. ātā hai na? "yam niyam sanyam āp kiyo, tyāg vairāgya athāg liyo', sab kiyā. parantu yadi ātmagnān nahīn huā to

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sab shubhabhāv huā, puṇyabandha huā. naumvī graiveyak gayā, lekin ātmākā gnān nahīn huā to bhavakā abhāv nahīn huā. shāstra paḍh letā hai, parantu bhītaramen vairāgya nahīn huā ki yah achchhā nahīn hai, yah paradravya hai. svadravya koī apūrva alaukik chīj hai, isakī mahimā nahīn kī, vibhāvase virakti-vairāgya nahīn āyā. akelā shāstrakā svādhyāy kiyā, parantu bhītaramen kuchh nahīn kiyā to bhī lābh nahīn huā.

mumukṣhuḥ- mātājī! dravyaliṅgī to bahut gnān aur vairāgya karatā hai. phir bhī siddhi nahīn hotī hai?

samādhānaḥ- gnān aur vairāgya donon karatā hai, parantu gnān aisā kiyā ki ātmākā gnān nahīn kiyā. vairāgya bhī aisā bhītaramense nahīn kiyā. bāharase sab chhoḍ diyā. sah chhoḍakar chalā gayā. aisī kriyā kī, bahut kī. jaisā shāstramen ātā hai, aisī bāharase bahut kriyā kī. gnān bhī bahut huā. bhītaramense gyārah aṅgakā gnān ho gayā. lekin bhītaramen ātmatattvako nahīn pahachānā.

main ātmā kaun hūn̐? aur merā kyā svabhāv hai? main koī adabhut chaitanya dravya hū̃n. aise dravyako pahachānā nahī̃n. usakī mahimā nahīn āyī. use vairāgya nahīn huā, bhītaramense nahīn huā. gnān bhī huā, vairāgya bhī huā, sab ūparase. gyārah aṅg to bhītaramense kṣhayopasham ho gayā. gyārah aṅgakā (gnān huā), parantu mūl prayojanabhūt tattvako nahīn pīchhānā. gnān aur vairāgya donon sāthamen hai. ūparase sāthamen hue. bhītaramen jo mūl tattva hai, us tattvako nahīn pīchhānā. sab bolatā hai, vichār karatā hai, dravya-guṇ-paryāy aisā hai, aisā hai, charchā karatā hai, parantu bhītaramen mūl tattva, chaitanyatattva bhītaramense nahīn pīchhānā. aisā gnān kuchh kāmakā nahīn huā.

vairāgya bhī bhītaramense (nahīn huā). bāharase chhoḍ diyā, lekin bhītaramen us shubhabhāvamen ruchi rah gayī. aisī ruchi rah gayī gaharāīmen ki use khyālamen nahīn ātā. ashubhabhāvase to vairāgya huā, lekin shubhabhāvamen ruchi rah gayī. shubhāshubh bhāvase bhī bhinna hū̃n. aisā vairāgya bhītaramense nahīn huā. bas, akelā nivr̥uttimay chaitanyatattva nirvikalpa tattvamen hī sukh hai, bāhar kahīn bhī sukh nahīn hai, aisā nirṇay aur aisī ruchi nahīn huyī. shubhabhāvamen ruchi rah gayī.

mumukṣhuḥ- vrat, niyam dhāraṇ kiye use samay ruchi ṭhīk hai?

samādhānaḥ- vrat, niyam dhāraṇ kiye lekin bhītaramen ruchi shubhabhāvamen rah gayī. shubhabhāvamen ruchi rah gayī. shubhabhāv bhī ātmākā svabhāv nahīn hai. shubhabhāvase devalok hotā hai, parantu bhavakā abhāv nahīn hotā hai. shubhabhāv bīchamen hotā hai, lekin vah ātmākā svabhāv to nahīn hai. vah bhī vibhāv hai. pravr̥uttimay hai, ākulatāmay hai,

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duḥkharūp hai. bhītaramen vichār kare to sab duḥkhamay hai. usase bhī bhinna main ātmā hū̃n. aisī ruchi nahīn huyī.

.. ātmākī ruchi nahīn huyī. shubhabhāv, thoḍā shubhabhāv to honā chāhiye na. shubhabhāvamen āgrah rah gayā. shubhabhāv hotā hai, jabatak ātmāko nahīn pahachāne, ātmāmen līnatā na hove, tab shubhabhāv ātā hai. parantu usamen ruchi aisī rah gayī ki shubhabhāv honā hī chāhiye. aisā āgrah, aisī buddhi bhītaramen ho gayī. usakī ruchi ho gayī. siddha bhagavānamen shubhabhāv nahīn hai. siddha bhagavān jaisā ātmākā svabhāv hai. (shubh aur ashubh) dononse bhinna ātmākā svabhāv hai. dononse bhinna ātmākā svabhāv hai. muni huā to bhī shubhabhāvamen ruchi rah gayī. devalokamen gayā to bhī bhavakā abhāv nahīn huā, devalok huā.

mumukṣhuḥ- mātājī! anubhav honese pahale mumukṣhu sachchā gnān aur vairāgya kar sakatā hai? anubhav honese pahale mumukṣhu sachchā gnān aur vairāgya kar sakatā hai?

samādhānaḥ- pahale sachchā gnān, vairāgya kar sakatā hai. parantu yathārthatā, vāstavik yathārthatā to use samyaggnān ho tab yathārthatā kah sakate haĩn. lekin us yathārthatākī bhūmikā mumukṣhutāmen kar sakatā hai. yathārthatā pragaṭ ho, usase pahale yathārthatākī bhūmikā, yathārthatāke mārga par jā sakatā hai.

use antaramen ruchi, bhale andarase gaharī pratīti ātmākā āshray yathārtha samyagdarshanamen jo grahaṇ kiyā vaisī nahīn hai, to bhī usake mārga par vah jā sakatā hai. mārgānusārī ho sakatā hai. yah shubhāshubh bhāv merā svarūp nahīn hai. merā svarūp ek chaitanyatattva koī apūrva mahimāvant tattva hai. usakī mahimā āye, usakī apūrvatā lage, main koī adabhut tattva hūn̐, usakī mahimā lage. yah shubhāshubh donon bhāv ākulatāmay hain, yah duḥkhamay haĩn. aise vichār, aisī pratīti bhī kar sakatā hai.

gnān-vairāgya yathārtha kar sakatā hai ki jisake pīchhe use avashya samyagdarshan ho, aisī bhūmikāko vah prāpta kar sakatā hai. pānīkī shītalatā dūrase dikhatī hai. pānīke pās pahun̐chā nahīn hai. usakī shītalatā,... usake amuk lakṣhaṇase nakkī kare ki yah gnāyak svabhāv, jānanevālā svabhāv koī adabhut tattva hai, vah koī alag hī hai. usakā nirṇay (karane tak) abhī pahun̐ch nahīn pāyā hai. to bhī vah kar sakatā hai. amuk prakārase nirṇay kar sakatā hai. is kāraṇ, us sambandhit gnān, us prakārakā vairāgya, virakti, us prakārakī mahimā karake vah mārgakā anusaraṇ kar sakatā hai.

... kārya tak pahun̐chanese pahale usake jaisī bhūmikāmen sachche mārga par jā sakatā hai. koī apūrva ruchi ho, apūrva deshanālabdhi antaramense ho ki mārga to yahī hai. ye

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shubhāshubh bhāvase bhinna ek ātmā vah koī alag tattva hai. aur vahī sarvasva hai. bāharamen kahīn bhī sarvasvapanā nahīn hai. kisī bhī prakārakī visheṣhatā use nahīn lagatī, ātmāke sivā. ek ātmā hī sarvasva hai. dūsarā kuchh visheṣh (nahīn hai). jagatakī koī vastu use alaukik nahīn lagatī, sab laukik lagatī hai. ek alaukik tattva ātmā hai. aisī apūrva ruchi kar sakatā hai. aur is kāraṇase vah sachche mārga par jā sakatā hai.

prashamamūrti bhagavatī mātano jay ho! mātājīnī amr̥ut vāṇīno jay ho!

 

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