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samAdhAnaH- .. ChaH mahine puruShArtha kare, parantu usakA puruShArtha kaisA hotA hai? usakI laganI kuCh alag hotI hai. bAra.nbAr abhyAs kare. kamase kam jAnanA chAhiye usakA artha prayojanabhUt dravya-guN-paryAyakA svarUp to prayojanabhUt hai. jo jAnaneme.n Aye vah sab prayojanabhUt hI hai. dUsarA kuCh na samajhatA ho to usake liye, mai.n j~nAyak hU.N. yah sharIr bhinna hai, yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahI.n hai, mai.n dravya AtmA shAshvat hU.N. ananta guNase bharA aur mujhame.n paryAy hai. mere dravya-guN-paryAy bhinna hai aur dUsareke bhinna hai. mUl prayojanabhUt itanA hI jAne to usame.n samyagdarshan hotA hai. parantu jyAdA jAne to usame.n koI nukasAn nahI.n hai.

mai.n j~nAyak jAnanevAlA AtmA hU.N. yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. yah sharIr bhinna hai aur andar jo vibhAv hote hai.n, vah bhI merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. mai.n to shAshvat AtmA j~nAyak hU.N. mai.n kabhI nAsh honevAlA nahI.n hU.N, mai.n shAshvat hU.N. merI paryAy mujhame.n mere kAraNase hI pariNamatI hai. usame.n dUsarA koI kuCh nahI.n kar sakatA. mUl prayojanabhUt utanA tattva jAne, usame.n samyagdarshan hotA hai. jyAdA jAne to usame.n nukasAn nahI.n hai, lAbhakA kAraN hotA hai. usakA mArga spaShTa hotA hai.

mumukShuH- prayojanabhUtame.n nav tattva, ChaH dravya..

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, vah A jAtA hai. nav tattva, ChaH dravya saba. tirya.nch aise hai.n ki jinhe.n nav tattvake nAm nahI.n Ate. ChaH dravyake nAm nahI.n Ate. parantu use bhAv sab A jAte hai.n. tirya.nchako shabda nahI.n Ate. mai.n jIv hU.N, yah jAnanevAlA (hU.N). yah ajIv hai. svaya.n apaneme.n puruShArtha karatA huA, yah vibhAv nAsh karane yogya hai, vah Asrav hai. vah bhAv usame.n A jAtA hai. svaya.n apaneme.n sAdhanA kare usame.n sa.nvar A jAtA hai. svaya.n visheSh ugratA karake Age baDhe usame.n nirjarA hotI hai. tirya.nchako yah sab bhAv usame.n samA jAte hai.n. mokSha-pUrNa kevalaj~nAn ho, pUrNa mokSha kevalaj~nAn.. pUrNa svarUpase prApta... mere svarUpame.n samA jAU.N. yah sab bhAv usame.n samA jAte hai.n. lekin vah to tirya.nchako shabda nahI.n Ate hai.n, bhAv A jAte hai.n.

parantu jo manuShya hai aur kShayopasham hai to vah sab jAne, usame.n jyAdA lAbhakA

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kAraN hotA hai. usame.n is pa.nchamakAlame.n jahA.N-tahA.N jIv bhUl khAtA hai. isaliye prayojanabhUt tattva jAne usame.n bhUl khAtA hai. usame.n chAro.n orakA jAne to lAbhakA kAraN hotA hai. jIv kise kahate hai.n? ajIv kise kahate hai.n? Asrav kise kahate hai.n? sa.nvar kise kahate hai.n? sab samajhe to lAbhakA kAraN hotA hai. nirjarA kise kahate hai.n? bandha, mokSha Adi sab jAne to lAbhakA kAraN hotA hai. vah sab prayojanabhUt hai. ChaH dravya, nav tattva. dravya-guN-paryAy anyake anyame.n, mere mujhame.n. mai.n bhinna hU.N. paradravya mujhe kuCh nahI.n kar sakatA. mai.n dUsarekA kuCh nahI.n kar sakatA. mai.n mere chaitanyadravyakI pariNati karU.N. dUsarekI kar nahI.n sakatA. sab dravya svata.ntra hai.n. vah sab prayojanabhUt hai.

mumukShuH- muktikA mArga samajhAyA, phir bhI gurudevakI gairamaujUdagIme.n yah sab takarAr dikhatI hai, usame.n mumukShuo.nko bahut duHkh hotA hai.

samAdhAnaH- kAraN to sabakA svata.ntra kAraN hai. is pa.ncham kAlame.n sabake abhiprAy bhinna ho gaye hai.n. sabake abhiprAy alag ho gaye hai.n, isaliye hotA hai. sabake abhiprAy alag ho gaye hai.n. tattva to gurudevane chAro.n pahalUse samajhAyA hai. sabake abhiprAy alag ho gaye hai. isaliye hotA hai.

mumukShuH- satpuruShakI Aj~nAme.n chalanekA koI vichAratA nahI.n hai, usame.nse yah sab hotA hai. ek Aj~nAme.n chalanA ho to isame.n kahA.N takarAr ho aisA hai. satpuruShakI Aj~nA jaisA kuCh honA chAhiye ki nahI.n honA chAhiye. kisIko kisIkI sunanI nahI.n hai. sab kahate hai.n mai.n hoshiyAr hU.N, vah kahatA hai, mai.n hoshiyAr hU.N. ...

samAdhAnaH- gurudev virAjate the to koI bol nahI.n sakatA thA. maname.n ho to bhI kuCh nahI.n kar sakate the.

mumukShuH- samAjame.n dUsare jIvo.nko ruchi hotI ho aur aisA mAhol sune to bAharase use aisA lage ki yah kyA hai? AnekA man ho to aTak jAya.

samAdhAnaH- kyA ho sakatA hai? usakA koI upAy hai kyA? usakA koI upAy nahI.n hai. gurudevake pratApase... is pa.nchamakAlame.n gurudev jaise mahApuruSh padhAre, vah mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. sabako aisA tattva samajhAyA. phir aise matabhed ho jAy, vah sabakI yogyatAkA kAraN hai. usame.n kyA ho sakatA hai?

mumukShuH- gurudevakI Aj~nAkA vichAr bhI nahI.n karate ho, aisI paristhiti hai.

samAdhAnaH- gurudevakA kyA abhiprAy thA, usakA vichAr nahI.n karatA. gurudevane kyA kahA hai, usakA vichAr nahI.n karatA aur svaya.nko dimAgame.n jaisA lage, jahA.N apanI ruchi hai, jo svaya.nko ThIk lage vah karatA rahatA hai.

mumukShuH- yogya-ayogyakA koI vichAr nahI.n hai.

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samAdhAnaH- a.ntarakA karanA ChUT gayA hai. a.ntarame.n AtmAkA karanA, bhavakA abhAv kaise ho? AtmAko muktikA mArga andarase kaise pragaT ho? andarame.n yah karanA hai, usake bajAy bAharame.n mAno.n mai.n kuCh kar lU.N, dUsarA mAnatA hai ki mAno.n mai.n kuCh kar lU.N, aisA ho gayA hai.

mumukShuH- gurudevane jo mArga kahA hai, use chUk gaye. samAjame.n adhik prasiddhi prApta karaneke liye... usame.n gurudevakA virodh ho jAtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- mai.n dharmakI prabhAvanA karu.N aur mai.n dharmakI prabhAvanA karu.N, aisA ho gayA hai. tattva dR^iShTise koI kisIko badal nahI.n sakatA. sabake abhiprAy bhinna-bhinna hai.n. abhiprAy bhinna ho gaye, vah kaise palaTe? abhiprAy bhinna-bhinna ho gaye hai.n.

mumukShuH- abhiprAyame.n virUddhatA miTe nahI.n, tab tak kaise vah log ThIk kar pAye.nge? yahA.N to koI bhI Aye, kahA.N kisIko nA hai.

samAdhAnaH- yah to gurudevakI bhUmi hai, sab A sakate hai.n, aisA hai. kisIko pratibandha nahI.n hai, koI nahI.n Aye aisA.

mumukShuH- yahA.N aisA kuCh nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- aisA hai hI nahI.n.

mumukShuH- koI pratibandha nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- yahA.N Akar sab rahe hai.n. bAharagA.Nvase gurudevakA lAbh lene Aye hai.n.

mumukShuH- anajAnase anajAn aur parichit sab Ate hI hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- jisako AnA hai, vah apanI jij~nAsAse A sakate hai.n. koI rokatA nahI.n, koI kisIko kuCh kahatA nahI.n. kuCh nahI.n hai. (gurudevashrI) baraso.n tak virAje. is bhUmiko pAvan kI hai. yahA.NkI bAt pUrI alag hai.

mumukShuH- gurudevakI gu.Nj to bahut yAd AtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- bhagavAn AtmAme.n kahA.N rAg-dveSh hai? bhagavAn AtmA bhinna hai. lekin yah sab abhiprAy eva.n matabhedake kAraN yah sab ho gayA hai. sonagaDhame.n koI kisIko nahI.n Ane detA hai, aisA thoDA hI nahai, sab Ate hai.n. kisIko AnekA bandhan thoDA hI hai.

tattva aisA samajhAyA. pahale to sab kriyAme.n dharma mAnate the. yah kriyA aur andar dR^iShTi (viparIt). vahA.Nse gurudevane kitanA Age-Age jAkar samajhAyA. dravya-guN-paryAyakI bAtame.n matabhed ho gaye. (tattva) to kahA.N dUr paDA rahA. gurudevane to kahA.N tak sabako pahu.NchA diye hai.n. andar AtmAkA karanekA bAkI hai. apanA abhiprAy ho vaisA sab karate haiai.n.

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mumukShuH- satpuruShakI divya vANI sunaneke bajAy, usame.n matabhed khaDe karake, rokaTok karake svaya.nko jo lAbh prApta honA chAhiye, usakI jagah dUsarA sab hone lagA.

samAdhAnaH- .. vah to sthUl thA, gurudevane to sUkShma batAyA. usame.n (matabhed) ho gaye.

mumukShuH- vAstavame.n to a.ntarame.n svaya.nkA karanA thA, use ChoD diyA aur bAharame.n sab lag gaye. yah karo aur vah karo.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, bAharame.n A gaye. gurudev svaya.nkA karaneko kahate the.

mumukShuH- sa.nkShepame.n Apane bahut kah diyA.

samAdhAnaH- gurudev kahate hI the, a.ntarakA grahaN kara. sahaj prabhAvanAkA bhAv ho, alag bAt hai. phir is prakArakI takarAr to nahI.n honI chAhiye.

mumukShuH- yahA.N kisakA pratibandha hai? yahA.N Aneke liye kaun rokatA hai? abhiprAy bhinna paD gaye ho, gurudevane jo kahA hai, vah karanA nahI.n hai aur apane-apane abhiprAyase bhinna-bhinna (bAt karake) aisA karo, aisA karo. aise matabhed ho jAte hai.n. koI kyA kare?

samAdhAnaH- ... yah gurudevakI bhUmi hai. jise-jise bhAvanA hotI hai, vah sab Ate hai.n. matabhed achChA nahI.n lagatA. shAntise... lekin kyA ho sakatA hai? koI upAy hI nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- ... bahut mahenat karake nAmame.n thoDA ThIk kiyA to phir vApas...

samAdhAnaH- gurudevashrIkA abhiprAy andar UtAre to hotA hai.

mumukShuH- Ap sab AIye, ... kuCh kare. ... siddhAntik viShay hai.

samAdhAnaH- gurudev gaye hI nahI.n. ... kitanA prakAsh kiyA, usake sAth dUsarekA mel kahA.N-se ho? gurudevane mArga prakAshit kiyA, usake sAth dUsarekA mel kahA.Nse ho? vah pUrA sa.npradAy judA. unakA mArga to unho.nne bhinna hI prakAshit kiyA.

mumukShuH- Aj~nA jaisA viShay samajhame.n nahI.n AtA hai, dUsarI kaun-sI bAt samajhame.n AtI hogI? ... kisI bhI bAtakA vichAr karanekA prashna kahA.N hai? maryAdA binAke vichAr kahA.N tak le jAte hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- ... mArga grahaN kiyA, aisA mArga milA, gurudevane yah samajhAyA. dharmakI prabhAvanA karaneke liye apanA abhiprAy rakhaneke liye maryAdA bAhar pahu.Nch jAnA. maryAdA ChoDakar.... jitanI apanI bhAvanA ho... maryAdA bAhar chale jAnA? kahA.N jAnA hai yah mAlUm nahI.n paDatA. virodhame.n kahA.N tak pahu.Nch jAnA, vah bhI mAlUm nahI.n paDatA. svaya.n apanA karanA. bAhar sab apane abhiprAy anusAr ho jAnA chAhiye, us prakArake virodhame.n

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pahu.Nchakar jIv AtmAkA karanA bhUl jAtA hai aur bAharakA sab ho jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- aisA hI hai.

samAdhAnaH- bAharame.n kahA.N tak pahu.Nch jAnA, usakA koI vichAr nahI.n AtA hai.

mumukShuH- dravyArthikanay dvArA dekh to tujhe dravya hI j~nAt hogA. is viShayame.n Ap thoDI spaShTatA kare.n.

samAdhAnaH- dravyArthik chakShuse dekhe to sab dravya hI dikhatA hai, paryAyArthikako banda kare, us chakShuko banda kare. anAdi kAlase jIvakI paryAy par dR^iShTi hai. us dR^iShTiko banda karake dravyako dekhe to dravya hI dikhatA hai. paryAy usame.n nahI.n hai, aisA usakA artha nahI.n hai. dravya par dR^iShTi jIvane anAdi kAlase nahI.n kI hai. dravyako pahachAnA nahI.n hai. dravya anAdi shAshvat hai. AtmAme.n ananta shaktiyA.N hai.n. AtmA ananta guNo.nse bharA dravya shAshvat (hai). kabhI us dravya par dR^iShTi nahI.n kI hai aur paryAy par dR^iShTi karake hI bhaTakA hai. isaliye tU dravya par dR^iShTi kar to dravya hI dikhAI degA. dravyakI dR^iShTime.n dravya dikhAI detA hai. aur dravyadR^iShTikI mukhyatAse Age baDhA jAtA hai. isaliye usame.n paryAy nahI.n hai, aisA usakA artha nahI.n hai. paryAyakA j~nAn nahI.n karanA, aisA usakA artha nahI.n hai.

vastu svarUp jaisA hai vaisA jAnanese muktikA mArga yathArtha sAdhya hotA hai. jaisA hai vaisA jAnanA chAhiye. paryAyame.n vibhAv hai, paryAy anAdikAlase hai hI nahI.n, aisA nahI.n hai. vibhAv yadi ho hI nahI.n to use TAlanekA prayatna kyo.n kiyA jAtA hai? to karanA hI nahI.n rahatA hai. paryAy hai, paryAyame.n vibhAv hotA hai, lekin use TAlaneke liye dravya par dR^iShTi kare. usakA bhedaj~nAn kare to Age jAyA jAtA hai. mai.n chaitanya anAdi shAshvat hU.N. parantu dravyame.n paryAy hI nahI.n hai (aisA nahI.n hai). usame.n shuddha paryAye.n hotI hai.n. dravya par dR^iShTi karanese shuddha paryAye.n pragaT hotI hai. aur andar sAdhanA-darshan, j~nAn, chAritra ratnatray pragaT hote hai.n. samyagdarshan dravya par dR^iShTi karanese hotA hai, lekin usame.n j~nAn sab honA chAhiye.

samyagdR^iShTike sAth samyagj~nAn hotA hai. samyagj~nAname.n sab jAnaneme.n AtA hai. yah dravya hai, yah guN hai, yah paryAy hai, yah ashuddha paryAy hai, yah shuddha paryAy hai. dravya par dR^iShTi kare, isaliye paryAyako nikAl denA aisA usakA artha nahI.n hai. dravyArthik chakShuse dravya (dikhAI detA hai). phir aisA AtA hai ki, paryAyArthik chakShuse dekhA jAy to paryAy dikhAI detI hai. paryAy nahI.n hai, aisA usakA artha nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- barAbar hai, param satya.

samAdhAnaH- dravya par dR^iShTi kar, paryAyakA j~nAn kara. paryAyame.n jo ekatva buddhi

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(ho rahI hai), dravyako bhUl gayA hai, us dravyako pahachAna. paryAyako gauN karake Age jAya. paryAyakA j~nAn hotA hai ki mai.n dravya hU.N. usame.n guN hai, paryAy hai, vibhAvaparyAy, svabhAv paryAy hai. bhedaj~nAn kare isaliye andar samyagdarshanakI paryAy pragaT hotI hai. samyagdarshanakI paryAy bhI paryAy hai. andar chAritrakI paryAy hotI hai, vah bhI paryAy hai. usakA to vedan svaya.nko hotA hai.

isaliye usame.nse paryAy nikAl denA, aisA artha nahI.n hai. parantu usame.n sarvasva mAnA hai. dravyako bhUl gayA hai, isaliye dravyako pahachAn, dravya par dR^iShTi kar, aisA kahanA hai. dravyako mukhya karake paryAyako gauN kara. parantu sAdhak dashAme.n munidashA pragaT hotI hai, chAritra dashA pragaT hotI hai, vah sab paryAy hai. dravya par dR^iShTi karanese shuddha paryAye.n pragaT hotI hai.

mumukShuH- koI jagah gurudevane aisA kahA ki, dravyako grahaN kara. aur pravachanasArame.n aisA kahA ki paryAyachakShu banda kar, usame.n kyA apekShA hai?

samAdhAnaH- gurudevakA kahanA vahI hai. pravachanasArame.n hI aisA AtA hai ki dravyArthik dR^iShTise dekhane par dravya dikhAI detA hai. paryAyachakShuko banda kar, matalab paryAyachakShukA j~nAn mat kar, aisA usakA artha nahI.n hai. paryAyakI or dekhanA banda kar aur dravya par dR^iShTi kar, aisA kahanA hai. isaliye use nikAl denA aisA artha nahI.n hai. gurudev to sab bAt karate hai.n, dravya par dR^iShTi kara. dravyako dekh, paryAyakA j~nAn kar (Adi) sab gurudevame.n to AtA hai. unakI vANIme.n sab AtA hai.

ekAnta karegA to shuShka ho jAyagA, aisA bhI gurudevakI vANIme.n AtA hai. puruShArtha kisakA karanA? aisA bhI AtA hai, gurudevakI vANIme.n. sab AtA hai. usakA mel karanA paDatA hai. anAdi kAlase paryAy par dR^iShTi hai, isaliye us chakShuko banda kar aur dravyako dekha.

mumukShuH- paryAyachakShu ko banda karate hai.n to aisA hotA hai, paryAy to hai. samAdhAnaH- paryAy to hai, paryAy nahI.n hai, aisA nahI.n hai. paryAy nikal nahI.n jAtI. us par dR^iShTi kara. dravya par dR^iShTi karanese dravya dikhatA hai, paryAy par dR^iShTi karanese paryAy dikhatI hai. usakA mel kara. dravyakA kyA svabhAv hai, paryAyakA kyA svabhAv hai? dravyakI mukhyatA karake paryAyako gauN karake j~nAname.n sab jAn aur sAdhanA kar, aisA kahanA hai.