Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 102.

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samAdhAnaH- ... samyak ekAnta..?

mumukShuH- anekAnta bhI ekAnta aise nij padakI prAptike liye ek hI upAy hai. anekAnta bhI samyak ekAnta aise nij padakI prAptike sivA anya hetuse upakArI nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- upakArI nahI.n hai?

mumukShuH- anya hetuse upakArI nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- anekAnta bhI samyak ekAnta aise nijapadakI prAptike sivA dUsare prakArase upakArI nahI.n hai. samyak ekAnta. ek dravya par dR^iShTi, bas! bAkI sab gauN hai. anekAntako jAnakar ek vastu par dR^iShTi karanI, vahI usakA hetu hai. ek dravya par dR^iShTi rakhI, vah usakA upakAr hai. anekAnta vastu svarUpako jAnakar ek samyak ekAnta ek dravya par dR^iShTikA jor, us prakArase hI vah upakArI hotA hai. anya hetuse anekAnta vAdavivAdake hetuse, aise nahI.n, nij padakI prAptike liye hI upakArI hai, anya koI hetuse upakArI nahI.n hai. dravya par dR^iShTi.

dravyako pahachAnakar svAnubhUti pragaT karanI us hetuse vah upakArI hai. bAkI usame.n rukanA, vivAd, nayakA .. us hetuse vah upakArI nahI.n hai. ek chaitanyakI prAptike liye upakArI hai. aur vah vastukA svarUp hai. usame.n dravya par dR^iShTikA jor, us ekAntako mukhya rakhe. anekAnta usake sAth vartatA hai, us prakArase upakArI hai. anya koI hetu, AtmArthake sivA anya hetuse upakArI nahI.n hai. kahI.n bhI nay (lagA de ki) anekAnta aise bhI hotA hai, aise bhI hotA hai. aisA anekAnta samyak anekAnta bhI nahI.n hai. samyak anekAnta to ekAntako rakhakar usake sAth jo anekAnta ho, vah samyak anekAnta hai. aur samyak ekAntake sAth samyak anekAnta hotA hI hai. tab usakA sambandha hai. nay aise hotI hai, aise hotI hai, us prakArase samyak anekAnta bhI nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- pratyek nayakI vichAraNAke samay use prayojan lakShyame.n rahanA chAhiye.

samAdhAnaH- apanI orakA prayojan, AtmAko sAdhanekA honA chAhiye. vastukA asalI svarUp kyA hai, use rakhakar sab honA chAhiye. usake sAth melayukta honA chAhiye.


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mAtra vastuko toDaneke liye yA vAdavivAd karaneke liye nahI.n honA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- shraddhAko samyak honeke liye yathArtha j~nAnakI ... honI chAhiye?

samAdhAnaH- j~nAnakI jarUrat paDatI hai. shraddhA yathArtha honeke liye j~nAnase hI nakkI hotA hai, tattva vichArase hI nakkI hotA hai. isaliye j~nAn usakA sAdhan hai. j~nAn to usakA sAdhan hai. shraddhA honeme.n j~nAn sAdhan hai. shraddhA dravya par dR^iShTi karake jorase muktike mArgame.n Age baDhatI hai. shraddhA honeme.n j~nAn kAraN hai.

mumukShuH- bahinashrI! paryAyA rahit to dravya kabhI hotA nahI.n. aisI sthiti honeke bAvajUd paryAyako gauN karake dravya sanmukh honA?

samAdhAnaH- paryAy palaTatI rahatI hai, paryAy kahA.N ekarUp rahatI hai? vibhAv paryAy hai, vah sab palaTatI rahatI hai. shubhAshubh bhAv palaTate rahate hai.n. vah mUl vastu kahA.N hai? mUl vastu nahI.n hai. paryAy rahit dravya nahI.n hai, parantu dravya to mUl vastu hai. yah mUl vastu nahI.n hai. jo palaTatI vastu hai, us palaTanekA Ashray nahI.n hotA. mUlakA Ashray hotA hai.

vR^ikSha ugAye to usake bIj par dR^iShTi honI chAhiye. DAle-patte (par nahI.n). usakI bIj par dR^iShTi ho to vR^ikSha ugatA hai. binA mUlake nahI.n hotA. usakA mUl to dravya hai, bhale paryAy rahit na ho. paryAyakA Ashray kAm nahI.n AtA.

mumukShuH- vahA.N kahA na? panapatA hai tab shobhatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, vaha. mUl hai. bIj panape tab shobhatA hai, parantu mUl vastuko pahachAnakar grahaN kare to panapegA na? use pahachAnakar mUlako grahaN kare, usakI shraddhA kare, usakA j~nAn kare, j~nAn-vairAgyakA si.nchan kare to panapatA hai. aur mUlako pahachAne to panapatA hai. dravyake Ashrase dR^iShTikI sthiratA hotI hai. paryAyake Ashrayase sthir nahI.n hotA. paryAy to palaTatI rahatI hai. shuddha paryAy bhI chaitanyakA vaibhav hai, ananta guN bhI usakA vaibhav hai. vastu to mUl hai. us mUlako grahaN kare to Age baDhatA hai.

mumukShuH- dravya bIjarUp hai.

samAdhAnaH- dravya mUl vastu hai. dravyakA sab vaibhav hai. dravya kaisA hai? ki ananta guNo.nse bharapUr, ananya paryAyayukta, yah sab usakA vaibhav hai. mUl vastu hai. mUl rAjA kaun? mUl dravya hai. rAjAkA vaibhav nahI.n, rAjA mUl vastuko grahaN kare to Age baDhe.

mumukShuH- jIvarAjAko jAnanA vah, yah?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, jIvarAjAko jAne, phir shraddhA kare, phir usakA AcharaN kare. aise jIvarAjAko jAnanA, shraddhA kare, usakA anucharaN kare.

mumukShuH- nArakIkA jIv pratham samyagdarshan pragaT karatA hogA, us vakta vah aisI


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vichArashreNIme.n chaDh jAtA hogA? pahalI bAr samyagdarshan pragaT kare taba.

samAdhAnaH- pIChale bhavase vah taiyArI karake gayA hai. taiyArI karake gayA hai, isaliye use ekadam bhedaj~nAn ho jAtA hai. duHkhake prasa.ng dekhakar (aisA lagatA hai), yah? kahI.n shAntikA sthAn dikhAI nahI.n detA hai. yah kis prakArakA sa.nyog aur uday hai? aisA vichAr karane par andar kahI.n shAnti hai yA nahI.n? aisA vichAr karane par yah mai.n mUl tattva hU.N, usame.n shAnti hai. lambe vichAr nahI.n karatA hai, mUl vastuko grahaN kar letA hai. pIChale bhavame.n vah taiyArI karake, deshanAlabdhi grahaN karake, andarame.n pAtratA taiyAr karake gayA hai, isaliye use ekadam ho jAtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- ... gurudevase utanI prabhAvanA, utane shAstra (prakAshit hue). kitane pravachan diye gurudevane baraso.n taka. aise mahApuruSh is kAlame.n-pa.ncham kAlame.n mahA durlabhatAse milate hai.n.

mumukShuH- ghar-ghar svAdhyAy, ghar-ghar tattvacharchA aur samayasArajI shAstrako to sparsha nahI.n kar sakate, munio.nke liye grantha hai. usake bajAy ChoTe bAlako.nse lekar us shAstra abhyAs hone lagA.

samAdhAnaH- chAro.n orase. pa.nchamakAlame.n padhAre. aise gurudevakA vaShA tak sAnnidhya prApta huA.

muumukShuH- chaturtha kAlame.n bhI durlabh aisA.. samAdhAnaH- hA.N, chaturtha kAlame.n jo durlabh hai, vah aise pa.nchamakAlame.n (prApta huA). koI jAgR^it ho to ve ja.ngalame.n ho. yah to mumukShuo.nke bIch rahakar baraso tak vANI barasAyI. vah to mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai.

mumukShuH- dUsare anek jIv prApta karanekA prayatna-puruShArtha bhI karate hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- andarakI ruchi kisIko jAgR^it huI ho to gurudevake pratApase. ek a.nshase lekar sab gurudevake pratApase hI hai. kahA.N paDe the. bAhya dR^iShTime.n the, a.ntar dR^iShTi karavAyI. sa.npradAyame.n the tab bhI samyagdarshan par utanA vajan rakhate the.

mumukShuH- tabase pheraphAr hone lagA. logo.nko samyagdarshan kyA chIj hai, usakA khyAl Ane lagA.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, sabako khyAl Ane lagA.

mumukShuH- .... samyagdarshan ... yahA.N ek mahArAj Aye hai.n, ve samakit par bahut vajan dete hai.n. apane to aisA samajhate the ki .. kiyA isaliye samakit aur chauvihar aur sAmAyik karate hai.n isaliye pa.ncham guNasthAna. yah mahArAj nA kahate hai.n. ve kahate hai.n, siddha bhagavAn jaisA Ananda Aye, usakA svAd chakhe, sharIrakI chamaDI UtArakar


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namak ChiDake to bhI A.NkhakA konA lAl na kare, to bhI vah samakit nahI.n hai. samakit koI abhUtapUrva vastu hai. lAkho.n-kroDo.nme kisIko hI hotA hai. ab unakI bAt ... lagatI hai. ananta kAlame.n prApta na ho aisA ... dararoj paradesI rAjA yA .. sanyAsI, koI bhI adhikAr paDhe, pahale usakI prastAvanA AdhA ghaNTe samakitake svarUpase karate hai.n. us vakta aisA (kahate the).

mumukShuH- pUrva sa.nskAr, jAgR^iti...

samAdhAnaH- unakA prabhAvanAkA yog Adi sab alag, sab alaukik thA. unakI vANI bhI alag aur unakA j~nAn bhI alag, sab atishayatAvAlA thA.

mumukShuH- Ap to yah kahate ho, lekin mai.n to DAkTar hU.N, mujhe to unakI .. bhI alag lagatI thI.

samAdhAnaH- ... puNya aur pavitratA.

mumukShuH- sabakA yog thA. Apane kahA na ki mahA yog chAro.n orakA. bAhya aur abhya.ntara.

samAdhAnaH- .. aisA hI kahe na, dUsarA kyA kahe.n? puNyake yogase sAnnidhya milA aur gaye vah bhI.. puNya aur pAp dono.n sAthame.n hai.n. lekin unho.nne jo diyA vah grahaN karanekA hai.

mumukShuH- to-to pAp kahA.N rahA? puNya bhI na rahe aur pAp bhI na rahe.

samAdhAnaH- unho.nne kahA hai, vah grahaN kar lenA hai. hajam ho utanA khAye. nahI.n to khAye kahA.N-se?

mumukShuH- rAjakoT..

samAdhAnaH- bhAvanagar tak bhI nahI.n jAtI hU.N.

mumukShuH- ...

samAdhAnaH- gurudevane bahut diyA hai. svaya.nkA karanA hai. apane yahA.N achChA hai. yah gurudevakA sthAn hai. yahI.n hame.n achChA lagatA hai. koI kAraN binA, niShkAraN kahI.n jAnekA man nahI.n hotA.

mumukShuH- ...

samAdhAnaH- .. prApta kare to ho sake aisA hai. svaya.n hI nahI.n karatA hai. nij nayanakI Alasase, gurudev kahate the, hariko nirakhatA nahI.n.

mumukShuH- himmatabhAI aisA kyo.n kahate hai.n, DibbA khulatA nahI.n. kholatA nahI.n, aisA kahiye.

samAdhAnaH- aisA kahate hai.n, bAkI svaya.n hI nahI.n kholatA hai.


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.. unhe.n dharmakI laganI thI. gurudevakA vaDhavAName.n chAturmAs thA, us vakta pravachan likhakar peparame.n dete the. mai.nne himmatabhAIko patra likhA ki yahA.N ek mahArAj Aye hai.n. ham log mAnate the ki nav tattvako jAnakar shraddhA kI. dUsare sab kahate hai.n use mAnanese... aisA nahI.n hai. aisA to ananta kAlame.n (bahut bAr) kiyA, yah mahArAj to kuCh alag hI hai. aisA kahate the.

(samakitakI) mahimA karate hai.n. yah mahArAj Aye hai.n ve kuCh alag hI hai. mujhe satya lagatA hai. Ap vahA.N the tab likhA thA na? vahA.N vaDhavAName.n chAturmAs thA taba. gurudevake pravachan sunakar, yah mahArAj kuCh alag hai. samyagdarshan par bahut vajan dete hai.n. aur ve kahate hai.n vah sab satya hai.

mumukShuH- gurudevakA chAturmAs thA to pitAjIko kahA, mujhe lAbh lenA hai. phir naukarI karu.NgA. to pitAjIne kahA, hA.N, khushIse pahale lAbh lo.

samAdhAnaH- utane adhyayan ka.nThastha kiye the, sthAnakavAsIke .. ka.nThastha kiye the. jo koI sAdhu Aye use prashna pUChane jAya. aisI ek ma.nDalI thI. pUChane jAte the.

mumukShuH- .. buddhikA sad upayog kiyA.

samAdhAnaH- yahA.N sa.nsthAme.n UtanA dhyAn rakhate the. sab mandirame.n. yahA.Nke to sahI, bAharake bhI.

mumukShuH- mArgadarshan denA, usake plAn dekhane, kaise karanA, ek-ek bAtakA... hamAre mu.nbaIme.n chAro.n mandiro.nme.n kitane hI bAr Akar...

samAdhAnaH- .. vah kAm bahut achChA kiyA hai. mu.nbaIme.n to samavasaraN mandir, malAD, har jagaha.

mumukShuH- sabhI mandiro.nme.n unake hI mArgadarshan anusAr kiyA gayA. kitane hI dino.n tak, mahino.n vahA.N rahakar sab yojanAe.N karate the.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI kahate ki, bhAI! j~nAyakako lakShyame.n rakhanA. dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, vahI hai na, aur kyA karanA hai?

samAdhAnaH- shAstrokta karanA.

mumukShuH- nAp Adi sab tilloy paNNattime.n dekhakar, jinendra siddhAnta koShame.n dekhakar, sab...

samAdhAnaH- usame.n to buddhi to chalAte, lekin isame.n bhI chalAte the. isame.n bhI unako itanA thA. subah uThakar svAdhyAy karate the. kahate the, kal mandir jAye.nge.

mumukShuH- sab mandiro.nme.n moTar ghumAyI, darshan kiye. bhaNDArame.n 51 rUpaye DAle. jAgR^iti kitanI!


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samAdhAnaH- Tepame.n AtA thA, mai.n paramAtmA hU.N, to aise-aise a.ngUlI karate the. rAsteme.n Tep bajAte-bajAte hI le gaye the. baiThe-baiThe hI sunA. baiThe the to aisA lagatA thA ki yah sab kyo.n le jAte hai.n?

mumukShuH- ham kyo.n le jAte hai.n, aisA lagatA thA. nikale tab logo.nkI katAr lagI thI. sabako hAth joDakar...

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho! mAtAjInI amR^it vANIno jay ho!
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