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mumukShuH- shuddhanayakA viShay trikAlI dravya niShkriy mAne kyA?

samAdhAnaH- shuddhanayakA viShay trikAlI niShkriy yAnI usame.n ek paramapAriNAmikabhAv dravya anAdiananta hai. us par dR^iShTi kar, aisA kahanA hai. shuddhanayakA viShay paramapAriNAmikabhAv hai. niShkriy arthAt un sabakA ek hI (bhAv) hai, usame.nse paryAy nikal nahI.n jAtI. tU ek svarUp AtmA hai, us par dR^iShTi kar, bas, aisA hI kahanA hai. usame.n paryAy hai, parantu tU dravyako pahachAnatA nahI.n hai. us par dR^iShTi kara. ek shuddhanayakA viShay ek dravyakI mukhyatA hai. niShShkriy ek dravyadR^iShTi, usame.n kisI bhI prakArakA pheraphAr nahI.n hai. pheraphAr rahit ek dravya anAdiananta hai, use tU pahachAn, aisA kahanA hai.

isaliye usame.n paryAyakI pariNati athavA usame.n koI kArya hI nahI.n hotA hai, aisA usakA artha nahI.n hotA. siddha bhagavAname.n pariNati hai. siddha bhagavAname.n bhI paryAye.n hotI hai.n. uname.n bhI j~nAnakI, darshanakI, chAritrakI sab paryAye.n siddha bhagavAname.n hai.n. usame.nse nikal nahI.n jAtI. dravya-guN-paryAy vah vastukA svarUp hai.

ek dravyako pahachAn, dravya par dR^iShTi kara. dravyakA Alamban le. dravya par dR^iShTi karanese, usakA Alamban lenese us par jor AtA hai. jo paryAy palaTatI hai, us par Ashray nahI.n liyA jAtA. Ashray dravya jo anAdiananta shAshvat sthir hai, usakA Ashray liyA jAtA hai. jo palaTatA rahatA hai, usakA Ashray nahI.n liyA jAtA. lekin usame.nse paryAy nikal nahI.n jAtI. siddha bhagavAname.n pariNati hotI hai. kevalaj~nAnakI paryAy, j~nAn, darshan, chAritra Adi sab paryAy siddha bhagavAname.n hai.n. paryAy rahit dravya hai hI nahI.n. paryAy rahit dravyakA svIkAr karatA hai, vah dravyakA svarUp jAnatA nahI.n hai. paryAy rahit dravya hotA hI nahI.n.

parantu paryAyako mukhya karake dravyako bhUl jAtA hai. anAdi kAlase paryAyakI mukhyatA karake dravyako bhUl gayA. isaliye jisakA Ashray liyA jAtA hai, aisA AshrayabhUt jo dravya hai, us dravyako bhUl gayA. isaliye dravyakI mukhyatA karake dravyakA Ashray le. paryAyakA Ashray nahI.n liyA jAtA. paryAyako khyAlame.n rakh, usakA j~nAn kara.

mumukShuH- paryAyako gauN karatA hai, paryAy kahI.n chalI nahI.n jAtI.

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samAdhAnaH- paryAy vastume.nse chalI nahI.n jAtI. vibhAv ChUT jAtA hai. kyo.nki vibhAv apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai. parantu shuddha paryAy to svaya.nme.n rahatI hai.

mumukShuH- andar jo ulajhan thI, vah sab nikal gayI. bahut spaShTatA (ho gayI).

samAdhAnaH- usakA svarUp, chaitanyakA vastukA svarUp koI adbhut hai. AshcharyakArI hai. usakA mel karake samajhanA. to hI muktikA mArga yathArthapane sadhatA hai. samajhaneme.n dUsarA pahalU samajhe hI nahI.n aur nikAl de to yathArtha nahI.n AtI. kahA.N jor denA hai, kahA.N gauN karanA hai, vastuke svarUpako nikAl nahI.n denA chAhiye. ... hai, parAshrit bhAv hai, AtmAkA svabhAv nahI.n hai.

dravyakI dR^iShTise svabhAv sadhatA hai. lekin usame.n shuddha paryAye.n pragaT hotI hai.n, usakA vedan svaya.nko hotA hai. vah shuddha paryAy chaitanyase bhinna nahI.n hai. sarvA.nshase sarva prakArase vah bhinna rahe athavA dUsare dravyakI bhA.Nti bhinna alag hai, aisA nahI.n hai. chaitanyake Ashrayase hI vah paryAy pragaT hotI hai aur chaitanyako hI usakA-shuddha paryAyakA vedan hotA hai. rAgakI paryAy to vibhAv paryAy hai. kShetra to usakA ek hai, vah kahA.N bhinna hai? vibhAv apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai. vah to usakA nimitta jaD hai. bAkI jo chaitanyame.n paryAy hotI hai, vah dUsare kShetrame.n nahI.n hotI hai, rAgakI paryAya. apekShAse kahaneme.n AtAaihai.

nimittase hotI hai, jaD karmake nimittase hotI hai, isaliye usakA kShetra bhinna hai, aisA kahaneme.n AtA hai. sarva prakArase vah jaDame.n nahI.n hotI hai. rAgakI paryAyako vah TAl nahI.n sake, yadi jaDame.n hotI ho to. svaya.nko rAgakI paryAyakA vedan hotA hai. to vah jaD hai kyA? apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai, isaliye us apekShAse, karmake nimittase huyI isaliye use pudagalame.n DAlakar pudagal kahaneme.n AtA hai. sarva prakArase vah jaDake kShetrame.n nahI.n hotI hai. vah to apanI pariNatime.n hotI hai. use svaya.n TAl sakatA hai. usakA svabhAvabhed hai. svabhAvabhed hai isaliye use anya kShetrakI kahI jAtI hai. sarva prakArase vah anya kShetrakI nahI.n hai. apanI paryAy apaneme.n vibhAv paryAy hotI hai.

samAdhAnaH- ... gurudevane mArga kahA hai, vah karanekA hai. is pa.nchamakAlame.n guruedav padhAre aur muktikA mArga spaShTa kiyA hai. koI jAnatA nahI.n thA. is pa.nchamakAlama.n bAhya dR^iShTi thI. gurudevane a.ntar dR^iShTi karavAyI. muktikA mArga, svAnubhUtikA mArga, munikI dashA, kevalaj~nAn ityAdi sab gurudevane pragaT kiyA hai. AtmAkI jij~nAsA, a.ntarase lagan lage, sachamuchame.n lagan lage to pragaT hue binA nahI.n rahatA. parantu jIvako lagan lagAnI, a.ntarame.n ruchi ho, tattvake vichAr karake a.ntarame.n j~nAyak kaun hai? svaya.nkA svabhAv kyA hai? a.ntarame.nse nakkI kare ki mai.n jAnanevAlA j~nAyak hI hU.N. yah jaD sharIrAdi merA svarUp nahI.n hai.

sharIr, man, vachan Adi sab jaD padAthAse mai.n bhinna hU.N. yah vibhAvasvabhAv, shubhAshubh

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bhAv bhI merA svarUp nahI.n hai. usase bhinna paDakar, a.ntarase bhinna paDakar, vikalpase bhAvanA bhAve alag bAt hai, a.ntarase bhinna hokar bhedaj~nAn kare to muktikA mArga pragaT hotA hai. bhedaj~nAn karake a.ntarase lIn ho, usakI shraddhA, usakA j~nAn aur lInatA kare to svAnubhUti pragaT hotI hai. usake liye usakI laganI, jij~nAsA, bAra.nbAr chaitanyakI mahimA Ave, chaitanyakI ruchi lage, chaitanyatattvakA yathArtha svarUp pahachAne aur vibhAvase virakti ho to a.ntarame.n pariNati jhuke, to hotA hai. bAharame.n dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, shubhAshubh bhAv dono.n vibhAv hai.n, phir bhI shubhabhAvo.nme.n dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA Aye binA nahI.n rahatI aur a.ntarame.n shuddhAtmAkI ruchi.

sab vibhAvase AtmA bhinna hai, aisI shuddhAtmAkI ruchi andar honI chAhiye. usakI lagan aur jij~nAsA lagAye to hue binA nahI.n rahatA. kShaN-kShaName.n usakI lagan, jij~nAsA ho to hotA hai. puruShArthake binA nahI.n hotA. gurudevane puruShArtha karaneko kahA hai. chAr gatikA abhAv andar svaya.n puruShArtha kare to hotA hai. jIv bAharame.n aTakA hai, a.ntarame.n dR^iShTi nahI.n kI hai. a.ntar dR^iShTi svaya.nko pahachAne to hotI hai.

mumubhuH- Apake AshIrvAedase hamArA .. ho jAyagA. samAdhAnaH- svaya.n andar puruShArtha kare to hotA hai. jo bhagavAnako pahachAne vah svaya.nko pahachAne, gurudevako pahachAne vah svaya.nko pahachAne. AshIrvAd kahA.N lAgU paDate hai.n? svaya.n taiyArI kare to AshIrvAed lAgU paDe. parase hotA nahI.n, svaya.n kare to hotA hai.

mumukShuH- gR^ihastha dashAme.n rahakar apaneko shA.nti lenI hai to le sakate hai ki nahI.n le sakate hai.n? gR^ihastha dashAme.n rahate hue bhI AtmAme.n shA.nti mile, aisA koI upAy batAIye.

samAdhAnaH- gR^ihasthAshramame.n rahakar bhI AtmAkA svarUp pahachAnA jAtA hai. gR^ihasthAshramame.n rahakar (ho sakatA hai). gR^ihasthAshram andar AtmAme.n ghus nahI.n gayA hai. andar shuddhAtmAkI ruchi lage, usakI lagan lage to gR^ihasthAshramame.n bhI hotA hai. chakravratI, rAjA Adi sab gR^ihasthAshramame.n rahakar bhinna rahate the. andarase AtmAkI-j~nAyakakI dashA pragaT karate the, bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA pragaT karate the. gR^ihasthAshramame.n rahakar bhI muktikA mArga shurU hotA hai, svAnubhUti pragaT hotI hai. Age lInatA baDhAneke liye munidashA AtI hai. bAkI samyagdarshan to gR^ihasthAshramame.n bhI hotA hai. andarase bhinna rahe to hotA hai. andar utanI svaya.nko jij~nAsA lage aur bhedaj~nAn kare to gR^ihasthAshramame.n bhI hotA hai.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! ruchiko kaise baDhAnA chAhiye?

samAdhAnaH- puruShArtha kare to hotA hai. ruchi bhI svaya.nko hI baDhAnI hai. tattvaj~nAn svaya.nko karanA hai, ruchi svaya.nko baDhAnI hai, lagan svaya.nko lagAnI hai, sab svaya.nko karanA hai. gurudevakI vANI prabal nimitta hai, parantu karanA svaya.nko hai. puruShArtha svaya.n

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kare to hotA hai.

mumukShuH- AtmAkA chi.ntavan-vichAr karate rahe.nge to AtmAkI laganI lagegI, aise chi.ntan vichAr karanese?

samAdhAnaH- chi.ntan, vichAr kare lekin a.ntarame.n laganI to svaya.n lagAye to hotA hai.

mumukShuH- Ap kahate ho tab to bahut AsAn lagatA hai ki, AtmA mai.n aisA hU.N. lekin pariNamaname.n kaThin lagatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- svaya.n svabhAv hai isaliye sulabh hai. svaya.n hI hai, anya nahI.n hai. svabhAvase sulabh hai, svabhAv usakA hai. parantu ananta kAlase anAdikA abhyAs hai isaliye kShaN-kShaName.n pariNati vibhAvakI or jAtI hai, ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai. isaliye durlabh ho gayA hai. anAdise jo vibhAvakA abhyAs chal rahA hai, usame.nse bhinna honA use durlabh lagatA hai. svabhAvase sulabh hai.

mumukShuH- .. to kalyAN ho jAyagA. aisA avasar, aise bhAvi tIrtha.nkar, bhAvi gaNadhar mile, is pa.nchamakAlame.n... janma saphal ho gayA.

samAdhAnaH- pa.nchamakAlame.n gurudev padhAre, tIrtha.nkarakA dravya. mahAbhAgyakI bAt ki gurudevakA sAnnidhya milA. 45-45 sAl vANI barasAyI. ... bahut spaShTa kiyA.

mumukShuH- ... AtmA dikhatA nahI.n hai, to AtmA kaise dikhe? aisA pUChate hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- andherA dikhatA hai,... AtmA jAnanevAlA j~nAyak hai, use pahachAne to andherA yA prakAsh, yah prakAsh bAharakA aur andherA bhI jaDakA hai. andar j~nAname.n jAnanevAlA hai use dekhe to vah andhakAr nahI.n hai, parantu andar jAnanevAlA hai, andar jAnanevAlI jyAti hai, use pahachAne to hotA hai. vah bAharase dekhatA hai. charma chakShuse dekhe to andherA dikhatA hai aur prakAsh dikhatA hai. andar dekhe ki j~nAyak jAnanevAlA kaun hai? use pahachAne to vah j~nAnakI jyoti hai. jo andar jAnanevAlA hai, yah sab vikalpo.nko jAnanevAlA, sukh-duHkhako jAnanevAlA hai, andarame.n jAnanevAlA hai, vedan hai, us vedanake pIChe jo jAnanevAlA hai, vah svaya.n hai. jAnanevAlI jyAti andar hai. jAnanevAleme.n sab bharA hai. ananta sukh aur ananta Ananda, j~nAn sab jAnanevAleme.n ananta guN bhare hai.n. andar jAnanevAlA hai.

samAdhAnaH- ... ashubhase bachaneko shubhabhAv Ate hai.n, parantu andar AtmAko pahachAnaneke liye to andar sachchA j~nAn, sachchA vairAgya, mahimA sab a.ntarame.n honA chAhiye. shubhabhAvase puNya bandhatA hai. parantu AtmAko pahachAne to muktikA mArga pragaT hotA hai. ashubhase bachaneko shubhabhAv Ave, lekin AdaraNIy to ek shuddhAtmA hai.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! Aj sabane na.ndIshvarame.n pUjA kI, darshan kiye, phir sab dekhA.

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un logo.nko abhI shurUAt hai, isaliye prashna pUChA ki akR^itrim jinAlay kaise? manuShyane to kiye hI nahI.n hai na. shAshvat hai.

samAdhAnaH- pudagalake paramANu vaise... kudaratI rachanA ho jAtI hai. bhagavAnakI mahimA aisI hai. jagatame.n jaise bhagavAn sarvotkR^iShTa hai.n, vaise bhagavAnakI pratimA bhI sarvotkR^iShTa kudarat batA rahI hai. mandiro.n, pratimAe.N sab shAshvat hai.n. jaise yah parvat Adi kisIne banAye nahI.n hai.n, vah to kudaratI hai. jaise parvat, samudra Adi kisIne banAyA nahI.n hai. vaise mandiro.n bhI kudaratI hai.n. bhagavAn bhI kudaratI hai. pudagalake paramANu us prakArase ratnakI pratimArUp pariNamit hokar (rachanA huyI hai). kudaratame.n shAshvat kisIne banAyA nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- sab ratnamaNike hote hai.n na?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, ratnamaNike.

mumukShuH- aur 500 dehamAnake.

samAdhAnaH- 500 dehamAnake, 108 pratimAe.N.

mumukShuH- ek mandirame.n? ek mandirame.n 108?

samAdhAnaH- aisA hai.

mumukShuH- arthAt unakA kabhI virah nahI.n hotA, chAhe jo bhI kAl ho to bhI.

samAdhAnaH- vah to shAshvat hai.n. na.ndIshvarame.n, merume.n sab shAshvat hai.n.

mumukShuH- bhavanavAsIke, Uparake sab...

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, bhavanavAsIme.n hai, vya.ntarame.n hai, jyotiShIme.n, vaimAnikame.n sabame.n hai. usame.n koI jaghanya mandir, koI madhyam, koI utkR^iShTa (hote hai.n). kisIkA nAp baDA, koI ChoTe aise hote hai.n.

mumukShuH- usakA matalab sarvaj~nakA kabhI virah nahI.n hai, aisA usame.nse samajhanA?

samAdhAnaH- sAkShAt tIrtha.nkar to sadA shAshvat hai.n. jo tIrtha.nkar virAjate hai.n, bIs viharamAn, ve to videhakShetrame.n virAjamAn hote hI hai.n. unakA bhI kabhI virah nahI.n hotA.

mumukShuH- unakA kabhI virah nahI.n hotA.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, bIs viharamAn bhagavAn hote hI rahate hai.n. aur yah kudaratame.n jo pratimAe.N hai.n, vah bhI shAshvat rahate hai.n. usakA kabhI virah nahI.n hotA.

mumukShuH- AtmAkA svarUp bhI shAshvata.

samAdhAnaH- AtmA shAshvat hai. AtmAkA svarUp shAshvat hai. use bhI kisIne nahI.n banAyA hai. AtmA bhI shAshvat hai. AtmAko kisIne banAyA nahI.n hai, bhagavAnakI pratimA kisIne nahI.n banAyI hai. AtmAko kisIne banAyA nahI.n hai. vah bhI shAshvat hai, j~nAnasvarUp AtmA bhI shAshvat hai. use pahachAne to pragaT hotA hai. pahachAnatA nahI.n hai isaliye pragaT

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nahI.n hotA hai. bhrAntike kAraN anAdi kAlase bhav karatA rahatA hai, bhavakA bhramaNa. AtmAko pahachAne to bhavakA abhAv hotA hai.

yah AtmA shAshvat hai, use pahachAne, usakA bhedaj~nAn kare, us par dR^iShTi kare, usakA j~nAn kare, usame.n lInatA kare to vah pragaT hotA hai. lekin bAhya dR^iShTi hai, pratIt bAhar karatA hai, j~nAnakA upayog sab bAhar jAtA hai, lInatA sab bAharame.n karatA hai. a.ntarame.n jAtA nahI.n hai, isaliye AtmA pahachAnA nahI.n jAtA.

mumukShuH- gurudevake pAs, Apake pAs sune tab to aisA lagatA hai, oho..! AtmA to atya.nt karIb hai. lekin jaise hI bAhar nikalate hai.n, AtmA kahA.N kho jAtA hai. hamAreme.n kyA kShati hai use samajhanA chAhiye.

samAdhAnaH- AtmA to apane pAs hI hai. anAdikA abhyAs hai, isaliye upayog bAhar chalA jAtA hai. bAharame.n ras hai, utanA AtmAkA ras nahI.n lagA hai. AtmAkI mahimA nahI.n lagI hai. AtmA sarvotkR^iShTa hai, aisA lagA nahI.n hai. bAharakA ras hai. mAno bAharame.n sabakuCh rasamay kyo.n na ho, aisA use lagatA hai. bAharakA sab sukhamay, rasamay lagatA hai. a.ntar AtmA sukhamay aur rasamay lagatA nahI.n hai. usakI shraddhA nahI.n hotI hai, isaliye bAhar dauD jAtA hai. shraddhA hotI hai to Upar-Uparase shraddhA karatA hai, andar gaharAIme.n jAkar shraddhA kare to a.ntarame.n puruShArtha hue binA rahatA nahI.n.

mumukShuH- vaise to AtmAkI upalabdhi sahaj sAdhya hai aisA bhI kahaneme.n AtA hai, prayatna sAdhya hai aisA bhI kahaneme.n AtA hai. to dono.nkA mel kaise hai?

samAdhAnaH- usakA svabhAv hai, isaliye sahaj sAdhya hai. vah bAharase nahI.n AtA, a.ntarame.n sahaj hai. parantu anAdikA abhyAs bAharakA hai, isaliye prayatna apanI or kare to hotA hai.

mumukShuH- karanA paDe.

samAdhAnaH- prayatna kare to hotA hai, aise hI nahI.n ho jAtA. sahaj hai. apane pAs hai, sahaj hai. vah, bAharakA koI sAdhan mile (to hotA hai), aisA nahI.n hai. svaya.n sahaj hai, prayatna kare to hotA hai. sAdhan bAharake hote hai.n-dev-guru-shAstra. anAdikAlase AtmAko pahachAnA nahI.n hai, isaliye usake sAdhan dev-guru-shAstra hai.n. anAdise pahachAnA nahI.n hai, isaliye pahale use ek bAr sva sanmukh honeme.n, samyagdarshan honeme.n, deshanAlabdhi honeme.n jinendra dev, gurukA pratyakSha upadesh mile to vah a.ntarame.n svaya.n svaya.nko pahachAnatA hai, apanI or jAtA hai. parantu puruShArtha svaya.nse karanA hai.

mumukShuH- lekin aisA nimitta bhI milanA chAhiye na?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha aisA hai. anAdi kAlame.n ek bAr

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uuse jinendra dev aur guuru mile aur vah a.ntarame.n aisI ruchise sune to hotA hai. ruchise shravaN kare nahI.n to ananta kAlame.n anek bAr mile hai.n, to bhI andarame.n apUrvatA nahI.n lagI hai.

mumukShuH- upayogako bahirmukh rahanekI atishay Adat hai.

samAdhAnaH- Adat, anAdikA abhyAs hai, bAhar hI jAtA hai, bAhar hI dauD jAtA hai. use bAra.nbAr puruShArtha kar-karake, bAra.nbAr apanI or AnakA (prayatna karanA chAhiye). jaisA bAharame.n sahaj jAtA hai, vaisA a.ntarame.n svaya.n sahaj kare to apanI or Tike. bAharame.n kaisA dauD paDatA hai. usame.n use mahenat nahI.n karanI paDatI. kuCh karanA nahI.n paDatA, sahaj hI dauD paDatA hai. vaise apanI or sahaj honeke bAvajUd jAtA nahI.n hai. bAra.nbAr usakA abhyAs kare, usake binA ruche nahI.n, usake binA suhAy nahI.n, bAra.nbAr bAhar jAy to bhI bAra.nbAr mai.n jAnanevAlA j~nAyak hU.N, yah svarUp merA nahI.n hai. yah sab vikalpakA svarUp merA nahI.n hai. aise bhedaj~nAn karake bAra.nbAr us or yadi Adat DAle. lekin vah kab paDatI hai? usakI mahimA lage to paDatI hai. shuShkatAse bolanemAtra yA raTan karane hetu kare to nahI.n hotA hai, usakI mahimA lage to hotA hai. use a.ntarame.nse pahachAne to hotA hai.

mumukShuH- abhI to sab avasar, aise duShamakAlame.n aise gurudev, aisI vANI, Ap vidyamAn, aisA prabal aur samartha nimitta mile hai.n, ab kAm to hamArI hI hin yogyatAke kAraN nahI.n ho rahA hai.

samAdhAnaH- apane puruShArthakI mandatA hai. aise gurudev mile, itanI vANI barasAyI, chAro.n orase samajhAyA, kuCh bAkI nahI.n rahA, utanA samajhAyA hai. AtmAkA svarUp, tattvakA svarUp spaShTa kar-karake AtmAkI svata.ntratA, dravya-guN-paryAyakA svarUp, nimitta- upAdAnakA svarUp chAro.n orase sab svarUp gurudevane spaShTa kiyA hai. lekin puruShArtha svaya.nko karanA bAkI rahatA hai. AtmAkI svAnubhUti, munidashA, kevalaj~nAn sab spaShTa kiyA hai. lekin svaya.n puruShArtha kare to hotA hai.

mumukShuH- vachanAmR^itame.n to bhAShA aisI hai ki in sabako bhI samajhame.n AtA hai. itanA sundara. gurudevane us par utane pravachan diye. sachamuchame.n to halavA taiyAr ho gayA, hamAre liye.

samAdhAnaH- svaya.nko karanA bAkI rahatA hai. utanI lagan lagAnI, utanI jij~nAsA karanI, apanI kShati hai.