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samAdhAnaH- .. usako pahachAnanA. do tattva bhinna hai.n. ek muktikA mArga hai. sharIrake sAth ekatvabuddhi hai, vikalpake sAth ekatvabuddhi hai. vah AtmAko pahachAnatA nahI.n hai. AtmAko pIChAnanA aur sharIr, vibhAv Adise bhedaj~nAn karanA. muktikA yah ek hI mArga hai. mai.n AtmA jAnanevAlA j~nAyak hU.N. ananta guNase bharapUr hU.N. yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. mai.n nirvikalpa tattva hU.N. aise bhedaj~nAn karanA, yah ek hI muktikA mArga hai.

mumukShuH- kShaN-kShaN aisA chi.ntavan hotA rahanA chAhiye? bahinashrI!

samAdhAnaH- chi.ntavan to kShaN-kShaName.n tab hove ki jab yathArtha lakShaN usake khyAlame.n Ave taba. usakI jij~nAsA kare, usakI lagan lagAye. mere AtmAme.n sab sukh bharapUr hai. mai.n AtmA mahimAva.nt hU.N. aisI bhAvanA, jij~nAsA, lagan lagAve. bhItarase pahachAnA jAya. vikalpase raTanamAtrase nahI.n. bhItarase vichAranA chAhiye. kShaN-kShaName.n mai.n AtmA hI hU.N, mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, aisA bhItarame.nse jAnanA chAhiye. yathArtha to tabhI hotA hai. bhItarame.nse sahajapane bhedaj~nAn ho jAya. bhItarame.n svAnubhUti ho jAve. vikalpa ChUT jAy aur svAnubhUti hove tab yathArtha hotA hai. pahale to usakI jij~nAsA, lagan Adi hotA hai.

mumukShuH- vyApAr, kuTumbame.n rahate hue bhI...?

samAdhAnaH- yah ho sakatA hai. vyApAr, kuTumba sabame.n (rahate hue bhI) bhItarame.nse usakI ruchi uTh jAya. usakA ras TUT jAya. bAharase tyAg nahI.n hotA hai to bhI bhItaramee.nse ruchi uTh jAya. usakA ras uTh jAya. usakI mahimA AtmAme.n lag jAy, AtmAkI lagan lag jAya. gR^ihasthAshramame.n bhI ho sakatA hai. AtmAkA bhedaj~nAn hove. pahale kAlame.n, chaturtha kAlame.n chakravartIko bhI bhedaj~nAn hotA hai. kShaN-kShaName.n AtmAko mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, aisI sahaj usakI pariNati rahatI nathI. chaturtha kAlame.n gR^ihasthAshramame.n bhI ho sakatA hai. bAharase tyAg nahI.n hotA, parantu bhItarame.n AtmAkI svAnubhUti, bhedaj~nAn sab hotA thA.

mumukShuH- vah kaise kare?

samAdhAnaH- AtmAkI lagan lagAye, tab hove. vichAr karanA. mere dravya-guN- paryAy kyA hai? vibhAv paradravya kyA? mere dravya-guN-paryAy kyA? aise shAstrakA svAdhyAy

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kare, vichAr kare. yathArtha samajhe, satsa.ng kare. satsa.ngame.n jAy aur usakA spaShTIkaraN (kare), niHsha.nkatAse usakI pratIt kare tab hove. binA samajhe nahI.n ho sakatA hai. use samajhanA chAhiye. prayojanabhUt tattva samajhe. jyAdA jAne, jyAdA shAstra abhyAs kare isaliye nahI.n, parantu mUl prayojanabhUt to jAnanA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- thoDA-bahut vyApAr hai, unase bhI lagAv ChoDanA paDegA na?

samAdhAnaH- usase ras TUT jAnA chAhiye. ras aur ruchi ChUT jAnA chAhiye. usakI maryAdA ho jAya. usakI tR^iShNA, adhik sa.nchay karu.N aisI tR^iShNA TUT jAya. adhik tR^iShNA Adi nahI.n rahate.

mumukShuH- vah kab TUTegI? jab andarase bhAv..?

samAdhAnaH- andarame.n ruchi hove tab, AtmAkI ruchi hove tab ho sakatA hai.

mumukShuH- AtmAme.n lagAnekA prayatna karane par bhI vah lag nahI.n pAtA hai. karane par bhI .... AtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- lagan yathArtha nahI.n lagI hai. lagan lage to ho sake. yathArtha sachchI lagan lage to bhItarame.n to AtmA pahachAnaneme.n Aye binA rahatA hI nahI.n.

mumukShuH- ham samajhate to yah hai.n ki hamane bahutakuCh kar liyA hai, bahut lagan lagA lI hai, lekin aisA huA nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- bhItarame.nse sachchI lagan nahI.n lagI hai, Upar-Uparase lagatI hai. aise Uparase lagatI hai.

mumukShuH- bhItarame.nse lagAneke liye bahinashrI! thoDA-bahut to lagAv ChoDanA hI paDegA na?

samAdhAnaH- bhItarame.nse aise ruchi (lage ki) bAharame.n sukh nahI.n hai. merA sukhakA bhaNDAr mere AtmAme.n hai. bAharame.n kuCh sukh nahI.n hai. aisA vishvAs A jAy to ApoAp ChUT jAtA hai. aise bhItarame.nse (laganA chAhiye).

mumukShuH- darshanakA shraddhAn honeke bAd chAritrakA shraddhAn karanA paDegA yA apaneAp ho jAyagA?

samAdhAnaH- samyagdarshan jisako hotA hai, sachchI pratIt, nirvikalpa svAnubhUti aisA samyagdarshan hove. phir svarUpame.n lInatA to apane puruShArthase karanI paDatI hai. ApoAp nahI.n hotI, puruShArthase hotI hai. samyagdarshan hove usake bhavakA abhAv ho jAtA hai. bAdame.n kevalaj~nAn pragaT karaneke liye, AtmAkI pUrNa svAnubhUti pUrNa svarUpame.n rahanA, nirvikalpa svarUpame.n bAra.nbAr jAnA, usake liye usakI lInatA lagAnI paDatI hai.

mumukShuH- chAritrakA pAlan karanA jarUrI hai abhI yA shraddhAn pakkA karanA jarUrI hai?

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samAdhAnaH- pahale shraddhAn karanA. pahale shraddhAn muktikA mArga hai. chAritra bAdame.n AtA hai. sachchA shraddhA kare to chAritra hotA hai. shraddhAn binA chAritra kaise ho sakatA hai? sachchA chAritra nahI.n hotA. samajhe binA chalane lage to mArgako samajhe binA kahA.N jAyagA? bhAvanagar jAnA hai to UlaTA chalegA, samajhe binA. shraddhAn ho ki yah bhAvanagarakA mArga hai. us mArgakA shraddhAn karanA. mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, mereme.n sabakuCh bharA hai. usakA bhedaj~nAn karake vibhAv merA svabhAv nahI.n hai, mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, usakI shraddhA karake yathArtha bhItarame.nse usame.n lInatA kare. visheSh lInatA karaneke liye chAritra hotA hai.

mumukShuH- khAlI chAritrakA pAlan karanese kuCh nahI.n hotA?

samAdhAnaH- akele chAritrakA pAlan karanese kuCh nahI.n hotA. shubhabhAv hotA hai, puNyabandha hotA hai, devalokame.n jAtA hai. graiveyak upajAyA.

mumukShuH- nigodame.n AyegA yadi samyagdR^iShTi nahI.n huA to?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, samyagdR^iShTi nahI.n huA to nigodame.n bhI jAyagA. to nigodame.n bhI jAyagA. paribhramaN nahI.n TUTegA. munivrat dhAr ana.nt bair graiveyak upajAyo. munivrat dhAraN karake ananta bAr graiveyak gayA, vahA.N bhavabhramaN TUTA hI nahI.n. samyagdarshan karanese bhavabhramaN TUT jAyagA.

mumukShuH- isakA kyA pramAN hai ki hamAre manuShyake bhav pUre hI ho chUk hai.n yA abhI kuCh bAkI rah gaye hai.n? Ageke bhavo.nke liye kyA patA hai ki manuShyabhav hai yA nahI.n hai?

samAdhAnaH- apanA pariNAm dekh lenA ki mai.n kaise pariNAm karatA hU.N? Age kyA? jaise pariNAm hove aisA phal milatA hai. kaisA pariNAm bhItarame.n hotA hai? pariNAmame.n kaluShitatA aur bahut bAharakI lubdhatA, ruchi hove to mai.n... jaisA usakA pariNAm, vaisA usakA bhava. mere pariNAm kaise hote hai.n, yah dekh lenA. mai.n a.ntarame.nse kitanA bhinna rahatA hU.N? mujhe AtmAkI kitanI ruchi hai? yah sab dekh lenA. pariNAmame.n atya.nt ekatvabuddhi hai to jaisA pariNAm (vaisA) usakA phala.

bhav milanese kyA hotA hai? bhItarame.n AtmAkI ruchi karanese bhavakA abhAv hotA hai. bhav to devakA bhav ananta bAr milA aur manuShyakA bhav bhI ananta bAr milA. sabakuCh mil chukA hai. shubhabhAv karanese puNyabandha hove to devalok hotA hai, manuShyabhav hotA hai shubhabhAvase, parantu bhavakA abhAv to nahI.n huA. bhavakA abhAv kaise ho, vaisA karanA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- bhavakA abhAv karaneke liye anubhUti prApta karanI hai.

samAdhAnaH- anubhUti prApta kare to bhavakA abhAv hotA hai.

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mumukShuH- siddha avasthA prApta honeke bAd yah a.ntaHtattva hai yA bAhya tattva hai?

samAdhAnaH- siddhadashAko prApta kare to a.ntar tattva hai. siddhakA svarUp to a.ntaHtattva hai. niyamasArame.n kuCh aisA..

muumukShuH- nav tattva bahiHtattva hai. nij ek hI a.ntaH tattva hai. siddhadashA siddha apekShAse a.ntaHtattva hai aur paryAy apekShAse bAhya kahaneme.n AtA hai.

mumukShuH- ek daphe siddha honeke bAd bhI usame.n rajobadal hotA rahatA hai kyA? paryAyakA to...

samAdhAnaH- siddhadashA to a.ntaHtattva hI hai. a.ntaH, bAhya samajhaname.n bahut mushkipal hogA.

mumukShuH- paNDitajI sAhabane samajhAyA, lekin Apake mukhase samajhe to thoDA...

samAdhAnaH- bhItarame.n lIn ho gayA siddhakI dashA, kevalaj~nAn prApta ho gayA, vikalpa sab TUT gaye. samyagdarshan samyagdR^iShTi jo hotA hai... darshanakI apekShAse darshanake viShayame.n paryAy gauN hotI hai, dravya mukhya rahatA hai. isakI apekShAse bAhya aur abhya.ntar aisA kahaneme.n AtA hai. bAkI j~nAn sab jAnatA hai. paryAy hai, dravya hai. paryAy aur dravya, sab dravyakA svarUp hai. siddhakA svarUp hai. usako sab a.ntaH hI hai.

... jaisA apanA shubhabhAva. shubhabhAv hove to puNya bandhe. pariNAmake Upar puNya hai. darshan karake pariNAm achChe hove te puNya bandhe, pariNAm idhar-Udhar chalA jAtA hai to...

mumukShuH- koI bhI kharAb pariNAm...

samAdhAnaH- pariNAm dUsarA hotA hai to.. pariNAm achChA hotA hai to puNya bandhatA hai. Atma svarUpakI prApti to nahI.n hotI aur shubhabhAv hotA hai, puNya bandha (hotA hai). sAmAnya puNya bandha hotA hai. kyo.nki apane AtmAkA svarUp to pahachAnatA nahI.n hai. tIrthame.n phire, AtmA svarUp-tIrtha to pIChAne nahI.n, Atma-tIrthako aur tIrtha-tIrthame.n phire to kyA? shubhabhAv hotA hai. shubhabhAv rakhe to puNyabandha hotA hai.

mumukShuH- ... vahA.N jo AdamI rahate hai.n, jo jainiyo.n... unake bhAv halake rahate hai.n, tIrtha.nkShetrame.n, aisA kyo.n?

samAdhAnaH- aisA ekAnta nahI.n hotA hai. sabake bhAv (aise nahI.n hotA).

mumukShuH- pa.nchamakAlake hisAbase...?

samAdhAnaH- pa.nchamakAlame.n sabake bhAv aise nahI.n hote.

mumukShuH- aisA niyam nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- aisA niyam nahI.n hai. sabakA bhAv aise rahate hai.n? jaisI yogyatA hotI

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hai, aisA bhAv hotA hai. kShetra kyA kare? kShetra kisIkA kuCh kar nahI.n detA. apanA bhAv aisA rahe to apanI yogyatA, apanA doSh hai, tIrtha kyA karatA hai? koI nimitta kuCh kar nahI.n detA. nimitta kar hI nahI.n detA hai, nimitta kuCh kar nahI.n detA hai. apane upAdAnakI taiyArI hove aisA hotA hai.

mumukShuH- kahate hai.n, yahA.N Akar Apake darshan hue to shAnti ho gayI.

samAdhAnaH- ... bahut kiyA, AtmAko nahI.n pahachAnA. AtmAko pIChAnA nahI.n.

mumukShuH- yAtrA to..

samAdhAnaH- bhAv Ave, kare yAtrA. shubhabhAv hai.

mumukShuH- shubhabhAv Anese yAtrA karate hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- tIrthame.n bhagavAn hai? apane bhagavAnako pIChAnanA chAhiye. AtmAko nahI.n pahachAnatA hai. bhagavAnako dekhakar apanA bhAv achChA honA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- ham bhI vaise hI bane.

samAdhAnaH- bhagavAn jaise hove, aisA honA chAhiye. OM bhagavAnakI divyadhvani hai. bhagavAnakI vANIme.n OM AtA hai. ekAkSharI vANI bhagavAnakI vANI hai. usame.n sab ananta rahasya AtA hai. sab apanI yogyatA anusAr samajh lete hai.n. OM hai. pa.nch parameShThIkA mantra, sab OMme.n A jAtA hai. OM bhagavAnakI vANI hai. bhagavAnako kevalaj~nAn hotA hai to vANI aise kram-kramase nikalatI hai, aise bhagavAnakI vANI kram-kramase nahI.n nikalatI hai. ek OM nikalatA hai. us OMme.n sab ananta rahasya AtA hai. usame.n itanA atishay rahatA hai ki sab apanI bhAShAme.n sab samajh lete hai.n. aisI bhagavAnakI vANI OM hai.

mumukShuH- OMko arihanta avasthAme.n bhI dhyAyA jAtA hai?

samAdhAnaH- arihanta avasthAme.n usakA dhyAn nahI.n hotA hai, OM bhagavAnakI vANI hai.

mumukShuH- vANI hai?

samAdhAnaH- vANI hai, vANI hai. bhagavAnako to pUrNa kevalaj~nAn ho gayA. bhagavAn OMkA dhyAn nahI.n karate, bhagavAnakI vANI OM hai.

samAdhAnaH- ... tab kuCh kAm nahI.n AtA. sa.nsAr to aisA hai. janma-maraN sa.nsArame.n hai. jo janma aur maraN sa.nsArame.n hai. AyuShya sabake pUre hote hai.n. parantu is manuShya jIvaname.n AtmAkI ruchi ho vahI lAbharUp hai. bAkI to sa.nsAr aisA hI hai. jIvaname.n kuCh AtmAkI ruchi kI ho, andar sa.nskAr boye ho, gurudevane jo vANI barasAyI hai, vah svaya.nne grahaN kI ho to manuShya jIvan saphal hai. bAkI jIvaname.n sabako yahI karane jaisA hai, manuShya jIvanake andara.

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ananta janma-maraN hue. janma-maraN to sa.nsArame.n hai hI. bhavakA abhAv kaise ho, yah karane jaisA hai. gurudevane bhavakA abhAv kaise ho, yah mArga batAyA. ananta bhav hue, vah bhav itane ananta hue ki usakI koI sImA nahI.n hai. nigodame.n ananta kAl rahA. ananta narkame.n hue, ananta manuShya, ananta tirya.nch aur ananta devake hue. aisA chAr gatikA paribhramaN khaDA hai. usame.nse bhavakA abhAv kaise ho, yah gurudevane mArga batAyA ki a.ntarame.n tU dekh, AtmAko pahachAn, usakA bhedaj~nAn kar to bhavakA abhAv ho.

bAkI bhavakA abhAv... bAharase jIvane bahut kiyA hai. shubhabhAv kiye, kriyAe.N kI parantu a.ntar dR^iShTi nahI.n kI. a.ntar dR^iShTi karake AtmAko pahachAne, sab shubhAshubh bhAvase bhinna andar AtmA hai use pahachAne, usakA bhedaj~nAn kare to bhavakA abhAv hotA hai. vah jab tak na ho tab tak usakI ruchi kare, jij~nAsA kare, lagan lagAye. ashubhabhAvase bachaneke liye shubhabhAv Ate hai.n, parantu vah bhI AtmAkA svarUp nahI.n hai. andarame.n shuddhAtmAkI ruchi rakhanI vahI hai. shubhabhAvame.n jinendra dev, guru, shAstra unakI mahimA, shAstrakA chi.ntavan, vah sab jIvaname.n karane jaisA hai. shuddhAtmA kaise pahachAname.n Aye, bhavakA abhAv usIse hotA hai. anya koI prakArase bhavakA abhAv nahI.n hotA.

ananta kAlame.n sab milA hai. yah ek samyagdarshan durlabh hai. jinendra devake darshanA (nahI.n kiye). jinendra devakA yog huA hai lekin svaya.nne pahachAnA nahI.n hai. isaliye samyagdarshan hai vahI apUrva hai. vah kaise ho, usakI lagan, jij~nAsA Adi karane jaisA hai. sabake AyuShya pUrNa hote hai.n. devalokakA sAgaropamakA AyuShya bhI pUrA ho jAtA hai. aur chakravartIkA AyuShya bhI pUrA ho jAtA hai. to phir is pa.nchamakAlakA AyuShya to kyA hisAbame.n hai? unakI jo ruchi thI, andar sa.nskAr the vah apane sAth jAte hai.n. manuShya jIvaname.n yahI karane jaisA hai. kisIko ChoDakar svaya.n AtA hai, svaya.nko ChoDakar dUsare chale jAte hai.n. aisA sa.nsArame.n chalate hI rahatA hai. AtmAkA svarUp pahachAn lene jaisA hai.

mumukShuH- pahalekI sab kaiseT batAyI. gurudevashrI aur ApakI, eva.n jin mandirakA sab thA, mere pAs ek viDIyo kaiseT hai. pahalekI sab kaiseT dekhI. kyo.nki sonagaDh lekar Aye aisI sthiti nahI.n thI.

samAdhAnaH- viDIyome.n to bhagavAn dikhe, sab dikhe.

mumukShuH- sammedashIkhar Adi jo baDe-baDe tIrtha the sabakI pUrI kaiseT thI, vah sab tIrthasthAn dikhAye.

mumukShuH- yahA.N sonagaDh par use bhAv bahut thA.

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samAdhAnaH- bhAv thA, pahalese bhAv thA.

mumukShuH- bahut bhakti. gurudevashrI aur bahinashrIko dekhe to andarase aisA ho jAtA thA, hAth-pais sIdhe nahI.n the isaliye aisA kuCh kar nahI.n sakate the.

samAdhAnaH- unako jo ruchi thI vah ruchi sabako rakhane jaisA hai. AtmAkA svarUp kaise samajhame.n Aye, usakI jij~nAsA, lagana. AtmA jAnanevAlA j~nAyak hai, usame.n ananta guN bhare hai.n. vah anupam tattva hai. yah vibhAv svabhAv apanA nahI.n hai. AtmA bhinna hai, usakA bhedaj~nAn kaise ho, usakI jij~nAsA, lagan jabatak nahI.n ho tab usakI ruchi aur shubhabhAvo.nme.n jinendra dev, guru aur shAstra, unakI mahimA shAstrakA chi.ntavan, shAstrakA svAdhyAy, jIvaname.n vah sab shubhabhAvame.n (honA chAhiye). aur shuddhAtmAme.n AtmAkI ruchi rakhane jaisA hai. jIvaname.n vah kartavya hai. janma-maraN to chalate hI rahate hai.n. unho.nne jo ruchi (kI), unho.nne jo kiyA vah sabako karane jaisA hai. AtmAkI ruchi, jinendra dev, guru, shAstrakI mahimA Adi.

... pa.nchamakAlame.n padhAre vah to koI apUrva tIrtha.nkarakA dravya, unakI to bAt kyA! aise mahApuruShakA avatAr yahA.N kahA.N? pa.nchamakAlame.n kahA.Nse?

mumukShuH- ... mai.nne mahArAj sAhabako kahI.n dekhA hai.

samAdhAnaH- vahA.N Upar hI rahatI thI na. tab mandir jAnA kuCh thA nahI.n, isaliye bAhar bhI bahut nahI.n nikalatI thI. mandir nahI.n thA.

mumukShuH- mandir darshan jAnekI koI prathA shurU nahI.n huyI thI.

samAdhAnaH- prathA shurU nahI.n huI thI. chattArI ma.ngala.n, ariha.ntA ma.ngala.n, sAhU ma.ngala.n, kevalipaNatto dhammo ma.ngala.n. chattArI loguttamA, ariha.ntA loguttamA, siddhA loguttamA, sAhU loguttamA, kevalipaNatto dhammo loguttamA.

chattArI sharaNa.n pavajjAmi, ariha.ntA sharaNa.n pavajjAmi, siddhA sharaNa.n pavajjAmi, kevalI paNatto dhammo sharaNa.n pavajjAmi.

chAr sharaN, chAr ma.ngal, chAr uttam kare je, bhavasAgarathI tare te sakaL karmano ANe a.nta. mokSha taNA sukh le ana.nt, bhAv dharIne je guN gAye, te jIv tarIne muktie jAya. sa.nsAramA.nhI sharaN chAr, avar sharaN nahI.n koI. je nar-nArI Adare tene akShay avichal pad hoya. a.ngUThe amR^it varase labdhi taNA bhaNDAra. guru gautamane samarIe to sadAy manavA.nChit phal dAtA.