Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 107.

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samAdhAnaH- ... ajIvakA j~nAn to andar jAne ki mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, jAnanevAlA hU.N, aise bhinna rahe tab j~nAn hotA hai. bhinna nahI.n rahatA ho to bhrAnti hotI hai.

mumukShuH- hA.N, bhinna nahI.n rahatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, to bhrAnti bhUl hotI hai. bhinna nahI.n rahatA.

mumukShuH- kShayopashamake kAraNase yA aj~nAnake kAraNase?

samAdhAnaH- aj~nAnake kAraNase. dono.n ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai, bhrAnti ho rahI hai, bhUl ho rahI hai. j~nAyak hU.N, jAnanevAlA hU.N, yah sharIr me.n nahI.n hU.N. bhItarame.n aisA jAnanevAlekA abhyAs kare to usase bhinna rahatA hai.

mumukShuH- ApakA pravachan..

samAdhAnaH- pravachan nahI.n hotA hai.

mumukShuH- pariNAmame.n to rahatA nahI.n hai, sunA isaliye..

samAdhAnaH- apanI ruchi nahI.n hai, utanI lagan nahI.n hai, utanA puruShArtha nahI.n hai to kahA.N-se rahe? utanA jAnanevAlekA abhyAs karanA chAhiye. ruchi nahI.n hai, lagan nahI.n hai to kahA.Nse rahegA? ekatvabuddhi, anAdikI ekatvabuddhi hai usame.n chalA jAtA hai. puruShArtha karanA chAhiye. bAra.nbAr puruShArtha karanA chAhiye, mai.n jAnanevAlA j~nAyak hU.N. sharIr mai.n nahI.n hU.N. mai.n to shAshvat AtmA hU.N, mai.n mahimAva.nt hU.N, aisA abhyAs karanA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- mAtra bolanese yA mAtra raTan karanese nahI.n hotA. kalyAN to bhItarame.n UtAre tab kalyAN hotA hai. AtmAko nahI.n pahachAnA. AtmAko pIChAne tab kalyAN hotA hai. mAtra shubhabhAv kare to puNyabandha hotA hai. apanA kalyAN nahI.n hotA hai. kalyAN to apane shuddhAtmAko pIChAne tab hotA hai.

mumukShuH- upayogame.n akelA dhruv hI j~nAt hotA hai yA paryAy aur dhruv dono.n sAthame.n j~nAt hote hai.n? dono.nkA vyApAr sAthame.n hotA hai?

samAdhAnaH- upayogame.n na? dhruv aur paryAy dono.n j~nAt hote hai.n.

mumukShuH- ekasAth?


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samAdhAnaH- ekasAth j~nAt hote hai.n. nirvikalpatAke kAlame.n ekasAth j~nAt hote hai.n. dhruv dhruvarUp, paryAy paryAyarUp jaisA hai vaisA j~nAt hotA hai. use vikalpa karake kram nahI.n paDatA. sahaj j~nAt hotA hai. upayog hai vah sab jAnatA hai. svaya.n dravyako jAne, guN, paryAy sab jAnatA hai, upayogame.n sab j~nAt hotA hai. upayog bAhar ho to vikalpAtmak hai, andar hai vah nirvikalparUp hai. use sab j~nAt hotA hai. dR^iShTi ek dhruv par hai aur upayogame.n sab j~nAt hotA hai.

anubhUtiko jAnatA hai, dhruvako jAnatA hai, sab jAnatA hai. Anandako jAnatA hai, sab jAnatA hai. na jAne to vah j~nAn kaisA? j~nAn sab jAnatA hai. j~nAnakA upayog svakI or gayA to svako jAnatA hai. svaparaprakAshak j~nAn hai. us vakta upayog bAhar nahI.n hai ki usakA par or upayog ho. parantu svake andar hI svaya.n apane guN, paryAy, dravya Adi sabako jAnatA hai.

paryAy kahI.n chalI nahI.n jAtI. paryAyakA pariNaman hotA hai. dhrav aur paryAy sab sAthame.n hotA hai. vedan hai vah paryAy hai, paryAy kahI.n chalI nahI.n jAtI. aur dhruv bhI hai. vikalpAtmakame.n jAnA hai isaliye vah sahajarUp ho jAtA hai. dR^iShTikA jor jaisA thA vaisA sahaj rah jAtA hai. j~nAnakA upayog jaisA hai vaisA sahaj jAnatA hai. kevalaj~nAname.n sahaj shAshvat vItarAgadashA rah jAtI hai. Chadmasthako upayog palaT jAtA hai. vItarAg dashA pUrNa nahI.n huyI hai, isaliye upayog palaT jAtA hai. upayogakI sthiti a.ntarmuhUrtakI hai. a.ntarmuhUrtame.n palaT jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- .. usame.n Apane aisA kahA ki apanA nAm jaise jAnatA hai vaise? to Apane kahA, nahI.n, vaise nahI.n. parantu ... dev-gurukI pratIti aur Ashrayame.n kyA pharka paDatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- nAm to usane mAtra nAm jAnA ki is sharIrakA nAm yah hai. usame.n nAmakA Ashray kahA.N hai? vah AshrayarUp nahI.n hai. Apane aisA kahA thA na ki nAm bhUl gayA. aisA kuCh prashna thA.

mumukShuH- jaise apanA nAm raTanA nahI.n paDatA, lekin use sahajarUpase Ashray, nirvikalpa Ashray hai ki mai.n hIrAbhAI hU.N. is tarah hai ki nahI.n? tab Apane kahA thA ki nahI.n, aise nahI.n.

samAdhAnaH- nAm hai vah koI vastu nahI.n hai. usakA Ashray thoDe hI hai. yah to ek Ashray hai. andar j~nAyakakA Ashray liyA, vah alag hai. aur dev-guru- shAstrakA shubhabhAvame.n bhale hI svaya.nne Ashray liyA hai. usakA Ashray hai ki yah guru andar sAdhanA karate hai.n. Atmavastu batAte hai.n. gurukA Ashray jo andarame.n AyA ki


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guru jo batAte hai.n, usakA hI Ashray sachchA hai. dev-gurukA. shubhabhAvame.n (aisA hotA hai ki), isI Ashrayase hI mujhe j~nAyakakA Ashray milegA aisA hai. nimittame.n aisA aur upAdAname.n svaya.n hai. nAm hai vah koI Ashray nahI.n hai. Ashray to ek vastukA hotA hai. Ashray koI nAmakA nahI.n hotA hai. nAm sahaj rah jAtA hai, vah alag bAt hai. ek sharIrakA nAm (hai), yah mai.n hU.N aise. vah koI AshrayarUp vastu nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- AshrayakI apekShAse bhed karo to...

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, vah to Ashray liyA hai. gurukA-devakA Ashray liyA. lekin vah bhI abhI to bAhyakA huA. a.ntarame.n kharA Ashray j~nAyakakA hI hai. j~nAyakakA Ashray liyA ki mai.n yah j~nAyak hU.N. phir use raTanA nahI.n paDatA. use sahaj Ashray A jAtA hai. svaya.n hI hai, anya nahI.n hai. sahaj Ashray rah jAtA hai. aur nirvikalpa dashAme.n to use upayogAtmak hai. vah to use vedaname.n A gayA hai. usame.n Ashray hai, isame.n vedaname.n A gayA hai. j~nAyakakI pariNati vedanakI hai vah shraddhArUp j~nAyakakI pariNatikA vedan alag hai aur vah upayogAtmak hai. (pariNatime.n) labdhAtmak hai, yah upayogAtmak hai. labdhAtmak arthAt shaktirUp nahI.n hai. j~nAyakakI pariNatirUp hai. pariNatirUp hai to vah pariNati aisI hai ki upayog bAhar jAy to bhI vah parimati TikI rahatI hai. aur andar nirvikalpa dashA to upayogAtmak huyI hai. pariNati aur upayog dono.n sAth ho jAte hai.n. pariNati hai vah pariNati vaisI hI rah jAtI hai aur upayogAtmak hotA hai. pariNati aur upayog dono.n ho jAte hai.n.

savikalpa dashAme.n usakI jo sahaj dashA vartatI hai, puruShArthakI dhArA, vah sAdhakadashA usakA kAraN hone par nirvikalpa dashAkA kArya AtA hai. bAharase ChUTakar a.ntarame.n chalA jAtA hai. isaliye visheSh kArya use vah hotA hai.

mumukShuH- nirvikalpa ...me.n pariNatike sAth upayog sAth Akar milatA hai, isaliye upayogarUp Ananda ho jAtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- ek vishiShTa pariNati hotI hai.

mumukShuH- bAhyame.n Apane jo bhed kiyA, dev-gurukA Alamban-Ashray aur nAmame.n Ashray nahI.n hai. yah pakaDame.n nahI.n AyA.

samAdhAnaH- nAmakA Ashray kahA.N svaya.nne liyA hai? vah to ek nAm hai ki ye hIrAbhAI, nAm hai. nAm aisA rah gayA, sahaj rah gayA. nAmake sAth koI prayojan nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- yahA.N to nimittarUpase bhI prayojan hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, prayojan hai. aur j~nAyakake Ashrayame.n prayojan hai. nimittame.n dev-


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gurukA prayojan hai. usame.n to sharIr par dhyAn hai ki aisA sharIr hai so mai.n hU.N, aisA ek andar kalpanAse mAn liyA hai.

mumukShuH- gho.nTan hote-hote aisA dR^iDh ho gayA utanA hI, usame.n Ashray nahI.n hai. yahA.N dev-gurume.n nimittarUpase Ashray hai.

samAdhAnaH- Ashray hai, Ashray hai.

mumukShuH- jAnaneke prakArame.n kyA a.ntar hai?

samAdhAnaH- matij~nAnakA upayog sAmAnya hai. isaliye matij~nAn visheSh bhed nahI.n karatA. sAmAnyarUpase vastu (jAnatA hai). darshanaupayog to alag hai, vah to sattAmAtra grahaN karatA hai. matime.n visheSh tarka karake nahI.n jAnatA. mati sAmAnyarUpase dravya-guN- paryAy jAnatA hai. aur shrut hai vah visheSh-visheSh jAnatA hai.

mumukShuH- sAmAnya jAnatA hai usame.n dravya-guN-paryAy sab A jAtA hai? matime.n?

samAdhAnaH- sab A jAtA hai, sab A jAtA hai. lekin vah sAmAnya jAnatA hai, visheSh shrut jAnatA hai. pratyabhij~nAn hotA hai vah matij~nAn hai. avAy, ihA hotA hai usame.n matij~nAn hai. vah sab matij~nAnakA upayog sAmAnya hai aur shrutaj~nAname.n visheShatA hotI hai. isaliye use anubhUtime.n bhI sAmAnyatayA vastuko guN eva.n paryAy sAmAnyarUpase (jAnatA hai). parantu usako visheSh gaharAIse jAne to shrutaj~nAn jAnatA hai. lekin usame.n aisA koI bhed nahI.n hai. vikalpa ChUT gaye hai.n. mati aur shrut dono.n sAthame.n kAm kar rahe hai.n.

mumukShuH- j~nAnake sAth matij~nAn.. anubhUtike kAlame.n?

samAdhAnaH- matipUrvak shrutaj~nAn hai. lekin matij~nAn aur shrutaj~nAn dono.n sAthame.n hai. matipUrvaka. matikA upayog honeke bAd shrutakA hotA hai. lekin vah sab abuddhipUrvak hotA hai. a.ntarmuhUrtame.n mati hotA hai, bAdame.n shrut hotA hai, aisA usakA kram paDatA hai. lekin vah use buddhime.n nahI.n hai, vikalpame.n nahI.n hai. ... palaTatA hai, vah abuddhipUrvak hai.

mumukShuH- .. vikalpa kaunase hote hai.n?

samAdhAnaH- vah koI nishchit nahI.n hai. us sambandhit hote hai.n. dravyako grahaN kiyA hai, dravya orake, guN orake, paryAy orake vah sab us sambandhit vikalpa hote hai.n. lekin kaunase vikalpa hote hai.n, vah nishchit nahI.n hai. dravyakA Ashray liyA, dravya orake vikalpa hai.n, guN-paryAy sab prakArake vikalpa hote hai. lekin vah to vikalpa ChUTanekA kAl hai. isaliye vikalpase nahI.n hotA hai. vikalpa ChUTakar (svAnubhav) hotA hai.


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mumukShuH- lakShya badalanA? par Upar lakShya hai, use palaTakar svame.n lakShya karanA. to lakShya badalanekI tAkat hai apaneme.n? vah to kramabaddhame.n jo paryAy AnevAlI hai vahI AnevAlI hai, to paryAyame.n lakShya badalanekI tAkat hai?

samAdhAnaH- tAkat hai. puruShArthase hotA hai. akelA kramabaddha nahI.n hai. lakShya badalanA. dravya par dR^iShTi karanI. j~nAnakA upayog bAhar jAtA hai use apanI or lAnA. vah sab puruShArthase hotA hai. binA puruShArthake kramabaddha hotA nahI.n. puruShArthake sAth kramabaddha hotA hai. aise hI binA puruShArthake kramabaddha (ho to) anAdikA vibhAv chalA A rahA hai. aj~nAn, bhrAnti, rAg, dveSh anAdi sa.nsAr paDA hI hai. vah anAdikA kramabaddha chalA A rahA hai. AtmAkI orakA kramabaddha samyagdarshaname.n puruShArthapUrvak hotA hai. binA puruShArtha nahI.n hotA, apaneAp nahI.n hotA.

mai.n AtmAkI or dR^iShTi karu.N, mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. andarase yah sab niHsAr hai. sArabhUt AtmA hai. aisA vichAr kare, svaya.n dravya par dR^iShTi kare to hotA hai. to usakA kramabaddha muktikI orakA hotA hai. puruShArtha kare to. usake sab kAraN de. puruShArtha, kAl, kShayopasham, svabhAv Adi sab usake kAraN ikaTThe ho to hotA hai. ek kramabaddhase nahI.n hotA. puruShArtha Adi sab usake kAraN hai.n. aise hI baiThA rahe ki kramabaddhame.n hogA, kramabaddha hogA vaisA hogA, apane puruShArtha kyA karanA? aise nahI.n hotA. binA puruShArthake nahI.n hotA.

samAdhAnaH- ... andar vichAr karanA. yah sharIr bhinna, AtmA bhinna, vikalpa hote hai.n vah apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai. usakA abhyAs karate rahanA. shAnti rakhanI. mai.n jAnanevAlA j~nAyak hU.N. mujhame.n Ananda Adi sabakuCh hai. aisA a.ntarame.nse, raTan mAtra nahI.n, a.ntarame.nse usakA abhyAs karate rahanA. AkulatAn nahI.n karanI, shAnti rakhanI. bhedaj~nAn karanekA prayatna karanA. sharIr bhinna, AtmA bhinna, vikalpa merA svabhAv nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- Aj subahakI bhaktime.n vahI AyA. bahut sundar..

samAdhAnaH- bhedaj~nAn karanA, bas, yah ek hI upAy hai.

mumukShuH- tadartha a.ntarake bhAvame.n gaharAIme.n Utare to hotA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N. ... manuShyabhav mile, usame.n jitanA AyuShya ho utanA mile. gurudevakA upadesh sunA hai, yah jAnakar shAnti rakhanI. kudaratake Age kisIkA upAy nahI.n hai. sa.nsAr aisA hI hai. chAhe jitanA ho.. aur aisA ho jAy isaliye ho, lekin ek shAntike sivA koI upAy nahI.n hai. manuShyabhav mile, usame.n gurudevakA upadesh milA, vah upadesh grahaN karane jaisA hai.

sharIr bhinna hai aur AtmA bhinna hai. AtmA shAshvat hai. AtmAko grahaN karanA


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vahI shreyabhUt hai aur vahI sharaNabhUt hai. anya koI sharaN nahI.n hai. ... pUrA hotA hai, to phir yah to manuShya janma hai. ChoTI umrame.n aisA ho jAy isaliye lage, lekin kudaratake Age koI upAy nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- shAntike sivA anya koI upAy nahI.n hai. ahemadAbAd rahate hai.n?

mumukShuH- hA.N, ahemadAbAd rahate hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- janma-maraName.n kitano.nko ChoDakar svaya.n AyA, svaya.nko ChoDakar dUsare chale jAte hai.n. aisA sa.nsArame.n banatA rahatA hai. shAnti rakhaneke sivA koI upAy nahI.n hai. sa.nsAr aisA hai. AyuShya kShaNik pAnIke bulabule jaisA hai. osake bindukI bhAnti, jaise bindu kShaNamAtrame.n vilIn ho jAtA hai. aisA yah sa.nsAr hai. bijalIke chamakAre jaisA AyuShya hai. usame.n AtmAkA kar lene jaisA hai. vismR^it kiye binA ChUTakArA nahI.n hai.

(ananta) janma-maraN kiye hai.n. is jagatake pudagal paramANu grahaN kiye hai.n aur tyAg kiyA hai. AkAshake pradeshame.n ananta bAr janma-maraN kiye. aise ananta kAlachakra. ananta avasarpiNI, utsarpiNI kAlame.n ananta bAr janma-maraN kiye hai.n. jIvane ananta kAlame.n ananta mAtAo.nko rulAyA hai (ki jisase) samudra bhar jAya. itane janma-maraN kiye hai.n. svaya.nko ChoDakar dUsare chale jAte hai.n aur anya svaya.nko ChoDakar jAte hai.n. aisA yah sa.nsAr hai. ... ChoDakar jAy aur putra mAtAko ChoDakar chalA jAy, aisA yah sa.nsAr hai. sa.nsArame.n shAnti rakhaneke sivA dUsarA koI upAy nahI.n hai. sa.nsAr to aisA hI hai. kudaratake Age koI upAy nahI.n hai. AyuShyake Age koI upAy nahI.n hai. AyuShya pUrNa hotA hai.

.. usakA ma.ntra hai. ... pa.nch parameShThI. yah pa.nch parameShThI navakAr mantra hai. utanA to samajhanA.

mumukShuH- ...

samAdhAnaH- shubhabhAvanA hotI hai, achChI bhAvanA ho. pa.nch parameShThI par bhAv ho to hotA hai.

... koI upAy nahI.n hai. kisIkA upAy kAm nahI.n AtA. chAhe jaise DAkTar Aye, to bhI jo bananevAlA hai, usame.n kisIkA kAm nahI.n AtA.

mumukShuH- mA.ngalika. chattArI ma.ngala.n, ariha.ntA ma.ngala.n, sAhU ma.ngala.n, kevalipaNatto dhammo ma.ngala.n. chattArI loguttamA, ariha.ntA loguttamA, siddhA loguttamA, sAhU loguttamA, kevalipaNatto dhammo loguttamA.


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chattArI sharaNa.n pavajjAmi, ariha.ntA sharaNa.n pavajjAmi, siddhA sharaNa.n pavajjAmi, kevalI paNatto dhammo sharaNa.n pavajjAmi.

chAr sharaN, chAr ma.ngal, chAr uttam kare je, bhavasAgarathI tare te sakaL karmano ANe a.nta. mokSha taNA sukh le ana.nt, bhAv dharIne je guN gAye, te jIv tarIne muktie jAya. sa.nsAramA.nhI sharaN chAr, avar sharaN nahI.n koI. je nar-nArI Adare tene akShay avichal pad hoya. a.ngUThe amR^it varase labdhi taNA bhaNDAra. guru gautamane samarIe to sadAy manavA.nChit phal dAtA.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho! mAtAjInI amR^it vANIno jay ho!
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