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mumukShuH- AtmAme.n ruchi lagA. mAno ki bAharakI koI bAte.n ruchatI nahI.n. AtmAkI charchA-vArtA hotI ho usame.n achChA lagatA hai. use AtmAme.n ruchi lagI aisA kah sakate hai.n?

samAdhAnaH- vah to AtmA orakI ruchi, AtmAkI vArtA ruchatI hai, isaliye vaise ruchatA hai aisA kahaneme.n Ay, parantu sachamuchame.n ruchi to AtmAko grahaN kare to vah ruchA aisA kahaneme.n Aya. AtmAko grahaN kare. AtmAko grahaN karake AtmAme.n lIn-sthir ho jAy to AtmAme.n ruchi lagI aisA kahaneme.n Aya. bAkI usakI ruchike kAraN vaisI bAt ruche, us prakArake vichAr ruche, vah bhI ruchA hai, phir bhI sachamuch ruchi to AtmAko grahaN kare to ruchi kahaneme.n Aya.

mumukShuH- anubhav ho to?

samAdhAnaH- to usakI shraddhA ho, usakI anubhUti ho. use grahaN kare to vah ruchA kahaneme.n Aya. jise kahI.n ruchatA nahI.n hai, vahI AtmAko grahaN karatA hai. use hI AtmAme.n ruchatA hai. koI vibhAvame.n jise kisI bhI prakArakA ras nahI.n hai, kahI.n khaDA rah sake aisA nahI.n hai, koI sharaNabhUt lagatA nahI.n, koI vikalpa bhI sharaNarUp nahI.n lagatA yA AshrayarUp nahI.n lagatA hai. aisA nirAshray ho jAy, vah AtmAkA sharaN grahaN kare. to usane AtmAkA sharaN grahaN kiyA. to use AtmAme.n ruchi aisA kahaneme.n Aye. AtmA ek sthir sthAn hai, shAshvat sthAn hai ki jisame.n AtmAme.n ruche aisA hai aur usIme.n shAnti eva.n Ananda sab usIme.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- ... to hI hotA hai na, nakkI kiye binA kaise ho? muumukShuH- .. samAdhAnaH- asti grahaN karanI chAhiye na? asti grahaN karanI chAhiye. jise AtmAme.n ruchatA hai use AtmAme.n ruchatA nahI.n. bAhar kahI.n ruchatA na ho to AtmAme.n ruchi lagA.

samAdhAnaH- ... do upayog sAthame.n to rahate nahI.n.

mumukShuH- svabhAv sanmukhake vichAr matij~nAname.n ho aur nirvikalpa dashA shrutaj~nAname.n

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hotI hai?

samAdhAnaH- nirvikalpa dashA shrutaj~nAname.n hotI hai. matij~nAname.n nirvikalpa huA vah to ek shAstrakI bAt huyI ki mati honeke bAd shrut hotA hai. mati bhI AtA hai aur shrut bhI AtA hai. matikA upayog palaTakar shrut ho jAtA hai. mati sAmAnya hotA hai, phir visheSh pariNatirUp shrut hotA hai. phir mati bhI nirvikalparUp hokar shrut ho jAtA hai. aisA bhI hotA hai. mati mAtra savikalpa hI hotA hai aur nirvikalpa nahI.n hai. mati aur shrut sAthame.n hai. mati bhI nirvikalparUp pariNamatA hai, phir upayog visheSharUp pariNamatA hai isaliye shrut ho jAtA hai.

... dono.n Atma sanmukh kiyA. itane a.ntarmuhUrta kAlame.n hotA hai. darshanaupayog, mati aur shrut sab ho jAtA hai. .. vah to kevalaj~nAnIke j~nAname.n hotA hai. vah koI andar j~nAn nahI.n hotA hai. ... spaShTapane grahaN karanA. vahA.N j~nAnake bhed nahI.n paDate. ek j~nAnaupayog rahatA hai. vikalpa ChUTakar itane a.ntarmuhUrta kAlame.n darshan, mati aur shrut sab ho jAtA hai. aur pariNatikA to veg tIvra hai. ek samayame.n jo lokAlokako jAnatA hai. andar svarUpame.n jAte hI a.ntarmuhUrtame.n pariNati honeme.n der nahI.n lagatI.

mumukShuH- pUChe to kahate the ki shrutaj~nAname.n aur kevalaj~nAname.n pharka kyA rahA? sab shrutaj~nAname.n jAnaneme.n A jAy to kevalaj~nAname.n aur usame.n..?

samAdhAnaH- usame.n kyA pharka rahA? .. vah grahaN karanI hotI hai. bAkI yuktime.n Aye aisI bAt hai. vah koI anubhUtime.n usake nAm nahI.n hote. sAmAnya aur visheSh pariNati, aisA use yuktise kah sakate hai.n. sAmAnya hokar visheSh hotI hai. matiko Atma sanmukh kiyA aur shrutako Atmasanmukh kiyA. dono.n pariNatiko sameTakar svaya.n Atma sanmukh karatA hai. Atma sanmukh kare vahA.N to vikalpa ChUT jAte hai.n. dono.nko Atma sanmukh kiyA.

... use shrutaj~nAn pariNamA hai. dono.n upayog sAthame.n to rahate nahI.n. usame.n AchAyAkI kitanI bAt AtI hai. usame.n jo grahaN ho, vah to shAstro.nkI bAt hai. ... darshanaupayog sAmAnya ek sattAmAtra hotA hai. matime.n avagrah, ihA, avAy, dhAraNA sab hotA hai to bhI use sAmAnya kahA aur usase visheSh tarkaNAko shrut kahA. vah sab bhagavAnakI vANIme.n AyA hai. AchAyAne para.nparAse sab shAstro.nme.n gU.NthA hai.

mumukShuH- usame.nse bahubhAg shAstrase pramAN karanA paDe.

samAdhAnaH- shAstrase pramAN karanA paDe. ... usame.n to bhedaj~nAn ki yah j~nAnasvabhAv jo lakShaNase grahaN hotA hai athavA yah vibhAvasvabhAv duHkh aur AkulatArUp hai. andar sukh aur shAnti AtmAme.n hai.

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AtmA ananta guNase bharapUr dravya-guN-paryAy Adi sab use vedanase AkulatArUp hai. amuk use yuktise, siddhAntase vah sab nakkI ho sakatA hai. bAkI kuCh to shAstro.nse nakkI karanA hotA hai. vah sab use yuktise nakkI hotA hai aur vah yuktiyA.N samyak hotI hai. .. vah sab anubhavame.n AtA hai. ise mati kahate hai.n athavA shrut kahate hai.n, vah shAstra AdhArit hai.

mumukShuH- vah pUrA viShay shAstrakA hai.

samAdhAnaH- shAstra par hai.

mumukShuH- anubhavame.n khyAlame.n lenekA prayatna kar ki mai.n bhinna hU.N aur yah bhinna hU.N. to tujhe bAdame.n sahajatA hogI. kArya kaThin hai, phir bhI usake sivA dUsarA koI upAy nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- dUsarA koI upAy nahI.n hai, astitvako grahaN karanekA. pad-padame.n, kShaN-kShaName.n use hI grahaN karanA. vah kArya kaThin hone par bhI usake binA ChUTakArA nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- bAkI to Apane aisI sundar lAin dI hai ki kisI vastume.n sa.ntoSh nahI.n hotA. aur aisA rahA karatA hai ki jo vAstavame.n karanA hai vah to hotA nahI.n hai. ham mAnate the, lekin pad-padame.n jitanA ho sake bhinna paDanekA prayatna kare ki mai.n to bhinna j~nAyak hU.N. yah sab bhinna hai. vah bhI bhIge hR^idayase arthAt vItarAgatAke prayojanase.

samAdhAnaH- bhIge hR^idayase. pratham bhUmikA vikaT hotI hai. lekin puruShArtha kiye binA ChUTakArA nahI.n hai. sahaj honeke bAd use sugam ho jAtA hai. pratham bhUmikAme.nse use palaTanA chAhiye. anAdikA abhyAs hai usame.n aisI ekatvabuddhi usakI aisI ho gayI hai ki usame.nse bhinna karanA use kaThin paDatA hai. jaisA usame.n kShaN-kShaName.n ekatva bhUlatA nahI.n hai, vaisA sahaj svaya.nko karanA kaThin paDatA hai. kyo.nki anAdise aise palaT gayA hai, use palaTanA kaThin paDatA hai. isaliye pratham bhUmikAme.n use vikaT lagatA hai, parantu sahaj ho to use sugam paDatA hai. bAdame.n use utanI vikaTatA nahI.n hotI. parantu usakI pratham bhUmikA vikaT hI hotI hai.

mumukShuH- vyAyAm karanA paDe. kasarat karanI paDe.

samAdhAnaH- pratham bhUmikA vikaT hotI hai. jis kisIko a.ntarmuhUrtame.n hotA hai, vah alag bAt hai. lekin jahA.N prayAsase karanA hai vahA.N to use prayAs hI karanA paDatA hai. to kArya hotA hai.

mumukShuH- bahut sundar, mAtAjI! hararoj jitanA vichAr karate hai.n, utanI usakI

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gahanatA dikhatI hai. vAstavame.n to sharma AtI hai ki kuCh karate nahI.n hai, unho.nne to kyA bAkI rahA hai? jo kuCh tujhe karanA hai, vah sab Apane batA diyA hai.

samAdhAnaH- pUChanekA to yahA.N baiThe hai.n isaliye pUChe.

mumukShuH- apanI aisI bhUmikA kahA.N hai ki pUChanA..

mumukShuH- nahI.n, vaise to .. is mUl bAbatame.n to Apane jo spaShTIkaraN kiyA vah to itane sundar prakArase khyAlame.n Ate rahatA hai ki yadi pUrA din yah karate rahe to dUsarA kuCh karanekA hI nahI.n hai. jo prayojan sAdhanA hai vah prayojan to isIse...

samAdhAnaH- sadhe aisA hai.

mumukShuH- .. ChUTaneke samay usakI kyA sthiti hai? aur ChUTaneke bAd kyA gati hotI hai?

samAdhAnaH- samyagdR^iShTiko to sharIr bhinna aur AtmA bhinna, usakA bhedaj~nAn hai. isaliye use andarase bhinna AtmA nyArA rahatA hai. use koI bhI vikalpa Aye to vikalpase bhinna rahatA hai. thoDI use amuk prakArakI asthiratA ho to usake kAraN alpa rAg-dveSh hote hai.n, parantu vah alpa gauN hote hai.n. lekin vah bhinna rahatA hai. use bhedaj~nAn (vartatA hai). sharIrame.n vedanA ho to usase bhinna rahatA hai, jo vikalpa Aye usase bhinna rahatA hai. isaliye use andar bhedaj~nAn hotA hai. isaliye use j~nAyakakI dashA, j~nAyakakI dhArA chalatI hai. use svAnubhUti hotI hai. j~nAyakakI dhArA chalatI hai.

isaliye samyagdR^iShTikI gati to use devagati hotI hai, samyagdR^iShTi ho usakI. aur sa.nsArI jIv hai.n, use jo aj~nAn dashA hai aur AtmAko bhinna nahI.n kiyA hai aur ekatvabuddhi hai, sharIr bhinna, AtmA bhinna, vikalpa merA svabhAv nahI.n hai, usase bhinna nahI.n paDA hai aur ekatvabuddhi hai, isaliye sharIrake sAth ekamek hai aur j~nAyakako bhinna nahI.n jAnatA hai, isaliye ekatvake kAraN manda kaShAy ho, yadi AkulatA bahut ho to usakI gati jaisA usakA AyuShyakA bandha ho us anusAr hotA hai. tirya.nch ho, pashu ho, aisA hotA hai. parantu manda kaShAy ho aur achChe pariNAm rakhe to use dev yA manuShyakI gati hotI hai. parantu use bhedaj~nAn, bhedaj~nAn nahI.n hotA hai.

use andarase AtmA bhinna nahI.n rahatA hai aur samyagdR^iShTiko bhinna rahatA hai. use shubhabhAv ho to usakI gati to dev aur manuShyakI hotI hai, parantu samyagdR^iShTiko to niyamase Age jAnepar svarUp ramaNatA baDhatI jAtI hai, manuShya ho tab kevalaj~nAn prApta karatA hai. use to vah hotA hai.

lekin ise yadi andar ruchi ho AtmAko bhinna karanekI to Age jAnepar vah Age baDh sakatA hai. lekin samyagdR^iShTi to niyamase Age baDhatA hai. aur kevalaj~nAnI

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hote hai.n, kevalaj~nAnI to pUrNa ho gaye hai.n. unhe.n to kevalaj~nAn yAnI pUrNa vItarAg dashA (pragaT ho gayI hai). unhe.n vikalpa bhI nahI.n hotA. vikalpakA nAsh ho gayA hai. ve to keval svarUpame.n sthir ho gaye hai.n, kevalaj~nAnI to. ve to aise samA gaye hai.n ki bAhar hI nahI.n Ate hai.n. aisI unakI dashA hotI hai. kevalaj~nAn, pUrNa AtmAkI sAdhakadashAkI parAkAShTA ho aisI utkR^iShTa dashAko kevalaj~nAnI prApta hue hai.n. aur AtmAme.n jitanI pUrNa shaktiyA.N hai, vah unhe.n pUrNa pragaT ho gayI hai.

j~nAnasvabhAv AtmAkA hai, AtmA j~nAyak hai. vah j~nAnakI dashA pUrNa, AnandakI dashA pUrNa, sab unhe.n pUrNa ho gayA hai. ek samayame.n,... svaya.n to svarUpame.n virAjate hai.n, parantu ek samayame.n sahaj hI sahajabhAvase pUrA lokAlok unake j~nAname.n j~nAt hote hai.n. aisI unakI-kevalaj~nAnIkI dashA hotI hai. ek samayame.n dravya, kShetra, kAl, bhAv, narka, svarga, pratyek jIvo.nke bhAv, unake dravya-guN-paryAy sab ek samayame.n pratyakSha jAnate hai.n. unhe.n koI vichAr nahI.n karanA paDatA hai. ekadam pratyakSha sahaj jAnate hai.n. lekin svaya.n svarUpame.n hI hote hai.n, bAhar nahI.n Ate hai.n, vikalpa nahI.n AtA hai. unhe.n AhAr nahI.n hotA. unhe.n pAnI athavA AhAr kuCh nahI.n hotA. unake sharIrame.n rog nahI.n hotA. ve to sharIrase bhinna hI ho gaye.

muumukShuH- aghAti karma to unhe.n hai.n. samAdhAnaH- ghAti karmakA kShay ho gayA hai. vah kShay ho gayA hai. jo j~nAnako roke, Anandako roke, darshanako roke, chAritrako roke, vah sab karma kShay ho gaye hai.n aur andar utanI dashA pUrNa ho gayI hai. mAtra unhe.n AyuShya hai. isaliye sharIr hai. amuk prakArakI shAtA vedanIy hai. aise chAr karma hai.n. lekin vah AtmAko avarodharUp nahI.n hote hai.n.

mumukShuH- vedanIy unhe.n hotA hai?

samAdhAnaH- vedanIy, ashAtA vedanIy unhe.n nahI.n hotI. shAtA vedanIy alpa hotI hai.

mumukShuH- jIvako mAlUm paDatA hai ki ab jAnA hai, aisA AtmAko mAlUm paDatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- sab AtmAko mAlUm nahI.n paDatA, kisIko mAlUm paDatA hai ki ab AyuShya pUrA ho rahA hai. kevalaj~nAnIkI to bAt hI alag hai, ve to pratyakSha j~nAnI hai.n, unakI to bAt alag hai. lekin sab AtmAko mAlUm nahI.n paDatA ki ab AyuShya pUrA ho rahA hai. kisIko mAlUm paDatA hai. kisIko mAlUm paD jAtA hai ki ab AyuShya pUrA honevAlA hai. sabako mAlUm paDe aisA nahI.n hai.

aur kevalaj~nAnIkI gati to mokShagati hai. bas, vah to mokShagati hai. ab deh

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dhAraN hI nahI.n karanA hai. yah deh hai, deh ChUTakar (muktiko prApta ho.nge). unakA sharIr hI bhinna ho gayA hai. ve to bole bhI alag, jamIn par bhI nahI.n chalate hai.n, kevalaj~nAnI to jamInase Upar chalate hai.n. Upar AkAshame.n chalate hai.n. kevalaj~nAnI yahA.N to dikhAI bhI nahI.n dete.

mumukShuH- jIv ChUTaneke bAd ... turanta dAkhil hotA hai yA thoDA kAl jAtA hai?

samAdhAnaH- nahI.n, kAl nahI.n jAtA hai. jIv yahA.Nse ChUTaneke bAd turanta dUsarI gatime.n jAtA hai. bIchame.n rukatA nahI.n. turanta hI dUsarI gatime.n jAtA hai. phiranekA koI kAraN nahI.n hai. use turanta hI jis prakArake karma ho, jaisI gatikA bandha ho usI gatime.n usI samay utpanna ho jAtA hai. ek a.ntarmuhUrtame.n.

mumukShuH- dUsarI gati to hotI hI hai? samyagdR^iShTi ho to bhI?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, usakI gati hotI hai. kyo.nki abhI pUrNa nahI.n hai. samyagdR^iShTi yAnI pUrNa dashA nahI.n hai. svAnubhUti hotI hai, parantu svAnubhUtime.nse bAhar Ate hai.n.

mumukShuH- thoDI kShaN Aye phir chalA jAtA hai?

samAdhAnaH- svAnubhUti hotI hai, phir bAhar AtA hai. bAhar AtA hai to bhI usakI dashA alag rahatI hai. parantu svAnubhUti use pUrNarUpase TikatI nahI.n hai, isaliye use bhav hotA hai. kevalaj~nAnIko to svAnubhUti pUrNa ho gayI hai, bAhar hI nahI.n Ate hai.n. ve to svarUpame.n samAye so samAye bAhar Ate hI nahI.n.

mumukShuH- siddha hI ho gaye.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, siddha ho gaye-pUrNa ho gaye. samyagdR^iShTi hai use svAnubhUti hotI hai, parantu bAhar AtA hai. bAhar Aye to bhI use AtmA to hAjir hI rahatA hai. parantu upayog bAhar jAtA hai. bAkI bhinna rahatA hai. shrImadame.n AtA hai na, "tethI deh ek dhArIne jAshu.n svarUpadesh'. samyagdR^iShTi ho to bhI use deh dhAraN karanA bAkI rahatA hai.

mumukShuH- vedAntame.n kahate hai.n ki jIv thoDI der gati dhAraN karanese pahale bhramaN hotA hai.

samAdhAnaH- nahI.n, bhramaN nahI.n hotA hai, bhramaN nahI.n hotA hai. jIv bIchame.n ghumatA nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- usake liye jo ...

samAdhAnaH- kahA.N soye?

mumukShuH- jIv svabhAv to jAnanA-dekhanA hai.

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samAdhAnaH- jAnanA-dekhanA hai, lekin usakI jAnane-dekhanekI dashA kevalaj~nAn kahA.N hai? vah to abhI bhrAntime.n jAnatA-dekhatA hai. AtmA svaya.n apaneko jAnatA hai. bhramaN kare vah sab kyA karate hai.n, vah jAnane nahI.n AtA. jAnane nahI.n AtA.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- jahA.N usakA nishchit huA ho, jaisA karmabandha huA ho us anusAr jAtA hai. yahA.N dekhane nahI.n AtA. vaisA jAnanA-dekhanA to vaisI nirmalatA ho to jAne- dekhe. ... jAnatA nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- .. vah jAne to sahI na?

samAdhAnaH- nirmal ho to jAne. ek samay, do samay, tIn samayame.n chale jAtA hai. vahA.N a.ntarmuhUrtame.n utpanna ho jAtA hai. ... kuCh samay jIv bhaTakatA hai, phikShar utpanna hotA hai. usame.n AtA hai.

kevalaj~nAnI yAnI pUrNa dashA parAkAShTA ho gayI. unhe.n phir kuCh karanA bAkI nahI.n hai. pUrNa sAdhanA ho gayI, kR^itakR^itya ho gaye.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- kisIko hotI hai, kisIko nahI.n hotI hai.

mumukShuH- usame.n bhI OM nikalatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, sabako OM nikalatA hai. koI mUkakevalI hote hai.n vah alag hai, hotI hai, sAmAnya kevalIko vANI hotI hai. kevalaj~nAnIkI vANIkI varShA to sabakI hotI hai. vah to a.ntar pUrA j~nAn nirvikalpa ho gayA, nirichChak ho gayA. sabako OM dhvani hI hotI hai. samavasaraNakI vibhUti vah ... ga.ndhakUTI hotI hai, vah sab unake yogya amuk prakArase hotA hai.

anek deh dhAraN kiye. ek dehakame.n jAneke bAd dUsarA deh bhUl jAtA hai. jahA.N dUsarA deh dhAraN kare to pUrva bhavakA bhUl jAtA hai. kyo.nki usame.n paD jAtA hai isaliye pUrva bhav bhUl jAtA hai. jIvane aise ananta bhav kiye.