Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 111.

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samAdhAnaH- ... parantu usame.n dUsarA pheraphAr nahI.n hotA. dhUl, miTTI eva.n pAnIse nahI.n hotA. usakA rasakas, Age jAnA Adi kam hotA hai, bAkI vastume.n pharka nahI.n paDatA. andarase anek prakArakI nirmalatA hotI thI, R^iddhiyA.N aur shakti pragaT hotI thI, aisA nahI.n hotA. ChaThThe-sAtave.n guNasthAnake sAth jo usake sAth sambandhavAle guN ho, vah bAharame.n bhI hote hI hai.n.

mumukShuH- jise AtmAkI sthiratA huyI hai, shraddhAn to huA hI hai, parantu asthiratA bhI jinakI dUr huyI hai.

samAdhAnaH- AtmAkI shraddhA hotI hai, asthiratAkI bAt alag hai. to use munidashA nahI.n hotI. yadi utanI sthiratA na ho to munidashA nahI.n hotI. jis jAtakI dashA ho vaisA bAhar hotA hai. sabako aisA lAgU nahI.n paDatA ki andarame.n ho vah bAhar ho. yah to munidashAke sAth sambandha hai. bAhar pakaDame.n Aye, nahI.n Aye, parantu jo andar ho use koI bAharase pakaD nahI.n sakatA. bAharame.n gR^ihasthAshramavAleko vyavahAr sab alag hotA hai. jo a.ntarame.n ho vah bAharame.n dikhAI nahI.n detA. parantu yah to munidashAke guNake sAth sambandha hai.

mumukShuH- gurudevakI to bahut U.NchI vartanA thI. unho.nne munidashA a.ngIkAr nahI.n kI. to kyo.n nahI.n lI?

uttaraH- munidashA andarakI alag hotI hai. mumukShuH- andar to munidashA nahI.n thI? mumukShuH- .. AtI hai vah barAbar tAttvik nahI.n hai. vaishya veSh, nirgra.nth bhAv ho use vaishya veSh nahI.n hotA. vaishya veShe nirgra.nth bhAv....

mumukShuH- ... ek janma karake mokShame.n jAye.nge.

samAdhAnaH- vah barAbar, ek janma karake mokShame.n jAye.nge, vah barAbara. bAdame.n dUsare bhavame.n muni ban jAye.nge. nirgra.nth bhAv to hai, parantu nirgra.nth dashA abhI nahI.n hai. jo gR^ihasthAshrakI dashA hai, munidashA bAdame.n dUsare bhavame.n AyegI. sthiratAkA mel karanA, usakA vichAr kare to baiThe aisA hai.


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mumukShuH- .... muni hokar peshanTako TriT nahI.n karate.

samAdhAnaH- shraddhA ho, bhedaj~nAn ho use avashya bhavakA abhAv hotA hai. use avashya chAritra AtA hai, use avashya munidashA AtI hai, parantu vartamAname.n use munidashA nahI.n hotI.

mumukShuH- nagnabhAv, mu.nDabhAv sah asnAnatA.

samAdhAnaH- .. AtmAkI sevA karanekA gurudevane batAyA hai. AtmAkA vichAr karanA, AtmAkI jij~nAsA, tattvakA vichAr karanA. AtmA kaun hai? usakA svarUp kyA hai? vah j~nAnasvabhAv hai, AnandasvabhAv hai. usakA AtmAkA vichAr karanA. dev-guru- shAstrakI mahimA shubhabhAv hai, parantu andar shuddhAtmA bhinna hai. shuddhAtmAkA vichAr karanA. usakA bhedaj~nAn kaise ho? yah sab vibhAvabhAv hai, usase bhinna hokar nyArA kaise huA jAy? yah sab vichAr karanA. dravya-guN-paryAyakA (vichAr karanA), shAstrame.n kyA AtA hai? gurudevane kyA batAyA hai? yah sab vichAr karanA.

mumukShuH- mAtra vichArase nahI.n hotA.

samAdhAnaH- AtmAko grahaN karanA. vichAr karake nakkI karanA. AtmAko grahaN karanA ki yah AtmA hai vahI mai.n hU.N, anya kuCh mai.n nahI.n. yah j~nAyak svabhAv hai vahI mai.n hU.N, dUsarA kuCh merA svarUp nahI.n hai. j~nAyakako grahaN karanA, use bhinna karanekA prayatna karanA, ekatvabuddhi hai usase bhinna hokar kShaN-kShaName.n mai.n bhinna hU.N, usakI bhAvanA, jij~nAsA aur us prakArakA prayatna pariNatime.n kaise Utare? jo vichArase nakkI kare vah pariNatime.n kaise Utare? usakA prayAs karanA. vah karanekA hai. vah sahajarUp kaise ho? vichArame.n nirNay kiyA lekin vah pariNatirUp kaise ho? usakA prayAs karanA. vichArase nakkI karake phir Age jAnA hai. parantu jabatak andar sahajarUpase grahaN na ho, tabatak vichAr, vA.nchan Adi sab AtA hai. shAstra svAdhyAy, usake vichAr, manan (Adi hotA hai). Age kaise baDhanA? svAnubhUti kaise ho? vah sab jij~nAsA karanI. karanA to ek hI hai, bhavakA abhAv kaise ho? aur j~nAyak kaise grahaN ho? aur AtmAkI svAnubhUti kaise ho? karanA to yah ek hI hai.

j~nAnasvabhAv nakkI karake phir use grahaN karake Age baDhA jAtA hai. parantu pahale nakkI karaneme.n hI use yathArtha pratIti, vichAr karake barAbar yathArtha jaisA hai vaisA nakkI karake Age baDhA jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- aisA AtA hai na ki, j~nAnalakShaNase pahachAnakara. yAnI jahA.N j~nAn hai vahI.n AtmA hai.

samAdhAnaH- j~nAnasvabhAv hai vahI mai.n hU.N, mai.n anya kuCh nahI.n hU.N. vah lakShaN usakA


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aisA mukhya lakShaN hai, vah usakA asAdhAraN lakShaN hai. itanA satya paramArtha hai, itanA satya kalyAN hai ki jitanA yah j~nAyak-j~nAnasvabhAv hai. jo j~nAnasvabhAv hai usIme.n tU ruchi kar, usame.n prIti kar, usame.n sa.ntuShTa ho. usIme.n sab bharA hai. j~nAn mAne mAtra jAnanA itanA hI nahI.n hai, parantu pUrNa j~nAyak hai. pUrNa j~nAyak mahimAva.nt bharA hai.

j~nAnasvabhAv-jitanA j~nAn UtanA hI tU hai, anya kuCh tU nahI.n hai. jitanA jAnanevAlA hai utanA hI tU hai. use nakkI karake usame.n sthir honese tujhe tR^ipti hogI, sa.ntoSh hogA, Ananda AyegA, sab usIme.n hogA. kahI.n aur nahI.n hai. j~nAnasvabhAv rUkhA nahI.n hai, vah mahimAva.nt hai. j~nAn yAnI mAtra shuShkatAse jAnate rahanA, aisA nahI.n hai. j~nAnasvabhAv tU mahimAse grahaN kara. vah j~nAnasvabhAv koI alag hai.

utanA satyArtha kalyAN hai, utanA hI paramArtha hai ki jitanA yah j~nAn hai. us j~nAnako hI grahaN kara. tujhe sa.ntoSh hogA, usame.n tR^ipti hogI. kahI.n aur sa.ntoSh aur tR^ipti hogI nahI.n. jo svabhAvame.nse sa.ntoSh hogA aur tR^ipti hogI, vah kahI.n aur nahI.n AyegI. usIme.n Ananda AyegA. vikalpase ChUTakar usame.n sthir ho jA, usIme.n sab bharA hai.

(jabatak yah na ho) tabatak dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, anek jAtakI mahimA, prabhAvanA Adike prasa.ngame.n juDatA hai. bAhar yah shubhabhAv aur andarame.n shuddhAtmA kaise pahachAname.n Aye, yah karanekA hai. samyagdarshan ho to bhI abhI pUrNatA nahI.n huyI hai, tabatak shubhabhAv Ate hai.n. kevalaj~nAn nahI.n hotA tabatak shubhabhAv Aye binA nahI.n rahate. munio.nko bhI Ate hai.n. ChaThThe-sAtave.n guNasthAname.n jhulate hai.n. muni ho to bhI jab bAhar Ate hai.n tab shAstra likhate hai.n. upadesh Adi, bhagavAnake darshan Adi sab munio.nko AtA hai. parantu bAhar Aye to shubhame.n aur andarame.n ChaThThe-sAtave.n guNasthAname.n jhulate hai.n. munio.nko dUsarA sabakuCh gauN ho gayA hai. vah sab to hai yA nahI.n aisA ho gayA hai.

andar pragaT karaneke liye kShaN-kShaName.n lagan lagAye, bhAvanA bhAve. shubhabhAvame.n, jinho.nne pragaT kiyA hai aise bhagavAn, jinho.nne pUrNatA pragaT kI, jo sAdhanA kar rahe hai.n aise guru aur shAstrame.n jA Aye, use tU hR^idayame.n rakakhar usakI mahimA lAkar vahA.N khaDA rahanA. anya ashubhabhAvame.n mat khaDe rahanA. bAhar Ave to vahA.N khaDe rahanA hai. a.ntarame.n shuddhAtmAkI lagana. bAharame.n sarvasva A nahI.n jAtA, andar shuddhAtmA a.ntarame.n rah jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- vishrAnti lenI ho to dev-guru-shAstra...

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, dev-guru-shAstra. andar shuddhAtmA. jinhoe.nne svabhAv pragaT kiyA hai aise bhagavAn aur jo sAdhan kar rahe hai.n, aise guru. shAstrame.n sab varNan AtA hai.


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mumukShuH- is maryAdAse Age nahI.n jAnA hai.

samAdhAnaH- us maryAdAse Age jAyegA to ashubhabhAvame.n jAyegA, vahA.N nahI.n jAnA hai. andarame.n terI jij~nAsA, lagan to yahI rakhanI hai, shraddhA to yahI rakhanA ki yah shuddhAtmA kaise grahaN ho? bAharame.n dev-guru-shAstra.

.. na kar sake to shraddhA to barAbar karanA, shAstrame.n AtA hai. shraddhA barAbar rakhanA ki mArga to yahI hai. in sabase bhinna AtmA shuddhAtmA (hai). usakA dravya- guN-paryAyakA svarUp pahachAnanese, use grahaN karanese, usame.n lIn honese pragaT hotA hai. bAkI bIchame.n koI parakA Ashray (lenA) vah AtmAkA svarUp nahI.n hai. andar tere AtmAkA Ashray lenA. shraddhAme.n yah rakhanA hai. vah nahI.n ho sake to bAharame.n dev- guru-shAstrakA Ashray hotA hai, vyavahArase.

deshanAlabdhi hotI hai us vakta bhagavAn aur gurukI vANIkA nimitta hotA hai. aisA nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha (hai). karanA svaya.nko hai, parantu nimittame.n dev aur guru sAkShAt hote hai.n.

mumukShuH- .. nirNay taka. usame.n bhI yah ... samay-samayame.n tU bhinna paDanekA, anubhav karanekA prayatna kar ki mai.n to j~nAyak hI hU.N, mai.n to j~nAyak hI hU.N. arthAt upayog bhI usake pAs hai aur viShay bhI usake pAs hai. phir bhI vah itanA kaThin paDatA hai, is abhyAsake kAraN, ki vahA.Nse ChUTakar anubhav karaneme.n, vikalpAtmak anubhav karaneme.n bhI utanA hI samay lagatA hai aur itanA kaThin lagatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- yah abhyAs bahut ho gayA hai na. anAdikA. usase bhinna paDaneme.n, pariNatime.n use ChoDaneme.n dikkat hotI hai. vichArase nakkI kiyA ho to bhI use bhinna karaneke kAryame.n use kaThin paDatA hai. kyo.nki anAdikI pariNati use sAth-sAth chalI A rahI hai.

(samajh) pIChe sab saral hai. vah bhinna paDe to phir usakI pUrI lAIn saral hai. parantu pratham bhUmikA use vikaT hai. kyo.nki anAdikI use ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai. svaya.n apaneAp prayatna karate-karate, AtmA svaya.n hI andarase mArga kar detA hai. jise kharI jij~nAsA aur lagan hotI hai use.

... nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha hai. koI kisIkA kartA nahI.n hai. deshanAlabdhi hotI hai tab bhagavAnakA, gurukA nimitta hotA hai aur apane upAdAnakI taiyArI (hotI hai), aisA sambandha sarva pratham bAr, sAkShAt dev aur gurukA yog hotA hai, parantu nimitta nimittame.n (rahatA hai). nimitta prabal hai. nimitta nimittame.n, upAdAn upAdAname.n. ek-ek paramANu sab svata.ntra hai, sab svata.ntra hai.n, pratyek dravya svata.ntra hai.n. ek paramANuke dravya-


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guN-paryAy svata.ntra. sabake dravya-guN-paryAy svata.ntra.

mumukShuH- mAmAko bAt karI ki abhI kaThin lagatI hai parantu sAthame.n aisA bhI baiThatA hai ki isake sivA ChUTakArA nahI.n hai aur yahI upAy hai. aisA anubhav karanese saral ho jAyagA aur aise saral hone par nirvikalpa honekA avakAsh aise hI AyegA, yah bAt mAtAjI! barAbar baiThatI hai. abhI jarUr kaThin lagatA hai aisA prayAs karanA.

samAdhAnaH- vikalpa bhI vahI hai, use bhinna karake, ekatvabuddhi toDakar j~nAyakakI dhArA pragaT karanI. ek hI upAy hai. dravyako grahaN kiyA, dravya par dR^iShTi kI parantu dR^iShTi karake use TikAnA, use bhinna karanA yah kArya (karanA hai). jo mAnyatAme.n liyA ki mai.n bhinna hU.N, yah vibhAv svabhAv merA nahI.n hai. mai.n bhinna hU.N. bhinna nakkI kiyA to vah satyarUpase nakkI kab kahA jAy? ki us rUp kArya ho taba. bhinna hai vah bhinna hI hai. to phir ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai. use satya nakkI karake use andar bhinna karanekA prayatna hue binA rahatA nahI.n. andar prayAs karanepar satya to yahI hai, mArga yahI hai.

shraddhArUp pariNati jise kahate hai.n, vah shraddhA jo vichArase shraddhA kare vah alag, usame.n to shraddhAkI pariNati hotI hai. dR^iShTi aur bhedaj~nAnakI pariNati. vah abhI shraddhArUp hai. lekin vah shraddhA kaisI? pariNatirUp hotI hai. pariNatikA kArya karatI hai vaha. visheSh chAritra hotA hai vah alaga. yah to shraddhAke sAth amuk prakArakI lInatA (hotI hai). usame.n anantAnubandhi sAthame.n ChUT jAtA hai. isaliye amuk prakArakI pariNati ho jAtI hai.

mumukShuH- anubhav honese pahale aisA sahaj nirvikalpapane ho, anubhav pahale bhI aisA vikalpAtmak sahajapane...?

samAdhAnaH- sahajapane, use pariNati sahaj hotI jAtI hai. usame.n use svAnubhUtikA avakAsh hai. kisIko thoDe prayatna binA ekadam ho jAtA hai, vah alag bAt hai. kisIko ekadam nakkI huA aur turanta bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA pragaT ho jAtI hai, vah ek alag bAt hai. aise bhI koI jIv hote hai.n. jaise shivabhUti muni jaise ekadam palaT gaye. pariNati ekadam palaT gayI.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! Aj dhanya ghaDI, dhanya bhAgya hamAre ki Aj hame.n Apako hIrese vadhAnekA saubhAgya prApta huA. mokShamArgake praNetA pUjya mAtAjI! ananta kAlase paradravya aur rAgakA bhajan is jIvane anAdi kAlase kiyA hai. to ab Apake pratApase AtmAkA bhajan kaise kare.n ki jisase sAdiananta mokShasukhako prApta kare.n?

samAdhAnaH- jaisI jIvako bAhya dR^iShTi hai, usakA anAdise bhajan karatA A rahA


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hai. gurudevane bahut kiyA hai ki tU j~nAyakako dekh, j~nAyakakA smaraN kar, j~nAyakako lakShyame.n le, j~nAyakakA hI tU bAra.nbAr raTan kara. bAharakA raTan ChoDakar j~nAyakakA raTan kara. j~nAyakakA lakShaN pahachAne. usakA j~nAnalakShaN jo asAdhAraN lakShaN hai, us lakShaNase vah pahachAname.n AtA hai aur us lakShaN dvArA lakShya arthAt vastuko pahachAnakar bAra.nbAr usIkA raTan, manan eva.n bAra.nbAr usame.n nirNay karake use grahaN karake usakA Ashray le. bAra.nbAr kare to vah pragaT ho aisA hai.

anAdise jo kiyA hai, rAg aur vikalpo.nkA smaraN use bAra.nbAr hotA hai. parantu AtmAkA smaraN karatA nahI.n hai, j~nAyakakA smaraN nahI.n karatA hai. use bAra.nbAr j~nAyakakA smaraN ho aisI jij~nAsA, ruchi, j~nAyakame.n hI sarvasva hai, bAhar kahI.n nahI.n hai aisI j~nAyakakI shraddhA ho. j~nAyakame.n hI sab bharA hai, bAhar kahI.n nahI.n hai. aisA j~nAyakakA vishvAs Aye. j~nAyakame.n Ananda hai, bAhar kahI.n nahI.n hai, aisA vishvAs Aye to vah j~nAyakakA raTan kare aur vahI karane jaisA hai. bAra.nbAr j~nAyak, j~nAyakadevakA smaraN kare. vah na ho tabatak dev-guru-shAstrakA smaraN kare. a.ntarame.n j~nAyakadevakA smaraN kare. j~nAyak kaisA hai, usakI pratIti kare. j~nAyak koI adabhut hai, anupam hai. usakA lakShaN pahachAnakar bAra.nbAr nishchay kare to ho sake aisA hai. parantu vah bhedaj~nAn dvArA hotA hai. j~nAyakakA lakShaN pahachAnakar hotA hai.

bhedaj~nAn dvArA hotA hai. parantu utanI svaya.nkI jij~nAsA aur ruchi ho to karatA hai. use bhinna kare, use bAra.nbAr bhinna karanekA prayatna kare to hotA hai. lakShaN pahachAnakar use praj~nAChainI dvArA bhinna kare to hotA hai. bAkI anAdikA abhyAs hai isaliye mushkil ho gayA hai, durlabh ho gayA hai. parantu apanA svabhAv hai isaliye sulabh hai, durlabh nahI.n hai. parantu svaya.n puruShArtha kare to ho sake aisA hai.

mumukShuH- lagatA hai ki AtmAme.n hI Ananda bharA hai, parantu jIv mAnatA nahI.n hai. vishvAs AnA chAhiye ki usake binA mujhe ek kShaN bhI nahI.n chalegA, usake liye jo puruShArthakI nira.ntar jAgR^iti chAhiye, vah nahI.n rahatI.

samAdhAnaH- vah svaya.n kare to hI ho sake aisA hai. koI use kar nahI.n detA. itanA vishvAs andarase svaya.n lAve to hI ho sake aisA hai. usakA vishvAs lAkar ananta jIv mokShame.n gaye hai.n, ananta jIvo.nne AtmAkA svarUp pragaT kiyA hai. vah svaya.n kare to ho sake aisA hai. vah kisIse ho aisA nahI.n hai. svaya.n kare to hI hotA hai. vah vishvAs svaya.nko hI lAnA hai. jalda yA derase svaya.n hI vishvAs lAye, svaya.nko usakI jarUrat lage, svaya.nko hI karanA hai.

dev-guru-shAstra mahA nimitta hai.n, parantu karanA svaya.nko hI hai. aisA puruShArtha karake


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ananta jIv mokShame.n gaye hai.n, ananta muni mokShame.n gaye hai.n. yah mArga ek hI hai, bhedaj~nAn karake j~nAyakako pahachAnanA. usakI shraddhA-pratIti dR^iDh karake, vaisI pariNati karake usame.n lIn ho jAy vahI ek mArga hai, dUsarA koI mArga nahI.n hai. vishvAs svaya.nko hI lAnA hai. prayatna svaya.nko karanA hai. sabakuCh svaya.nko karanA hai. shraddhA pragaT karanI, samyagdarshan karanA, usame.n lInatA karanI vah sab svaya.nko hI karanA hai. svaya.n svata.ntra hai. jalda yA der, parantu svaya.n kare to hI hotA hai. dUsarA koI usame.n kar de aisA nahI.n hai.

gurudevane mArga batAyA hai, svaya.nko karanA bAkI rahatA hai. ekadam AsAn kar diyA hai. chAro.n orase mArga batAyA hai. dravya-guN-paryAyakA svarUp (samajhAyA hai). nimitta- upAdAn, anek-anek prakArakA sUkShma-sUkShma rUpase sab samajhAyA hai. svaya.nko karanA bAkI rah jAtA hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho! mAtAjInI amR^it vANIno jay ho!
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