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mumukShuH- mAtAjI! ananta-ananta kAlake paribhramaNake duHkho.nse mukta honeke liye hI Ap hame.n mile hai.n, aisA hame.n a.ntarase lagatA hai. to is sa.nsArase mukta hokar shAshvat sukhakI prApti kaise ho?

samAdhAnaH- ek hI mArga hai-shuddhAtmAko grahaN karanA vahI hai. shuddhAtmAko grahaN kare. shuddhAtmAko grahaN kare to shuddha paryAy pragaT hotI hai, ashuddhako grahaN kiyA to ashuddha paryAy hotI hai. ashuddhakI or dR^iShTi hai to use ashuddhatAkI paryAye.n hotI hai. ek shuddhAtmA, mai.n shuddha svarUp hU.N. yah paryAyame.n malinatA hai, mere mUl svarUpame.n nahI.n hai. "je shuddha jANe AtmAne te shuddha AtmA ja meLave'. ek shuddhAtmAko hI grahaN karanA.

jo mokShame.n gaye ve sab shuddhAtmAme.n pravR^itti karake mokSha gaye hai.n, yah ek hI mokShakA mArga hai, dUsarA koI nahI.n hai. shuddhAtmAko pahachAnanA. shuddhAtmAko pahachAne to sab shuddha paryAye.n pragaT hotI hai.n. mai.n ek shuddha chaitanya svarUp hU.N. yah malinatA mereeme.n nahI.n hai. vah merA svarUp nahI.n hai. puruShArthakI kamajorIse vah malinatA hotI hai, parantu merA svarUp nahI.n hai, mai.n usase bhinna hU.N.

jaise pAnI svabhAvase nirmal hai, vaise nirmal hU.N, shItal svabhAvI hU.N. parantu yah sab kIchaD nimittake kAraN yAnI svaya.n vaisA malin hotA hai, nimitta karatA nahI.n hai. apanI pariNatime.n svaya.n puruShArthakI kamajorIke kAraN malinatA hotI hai, parantu vah merA svarUp nahI.n hai. aisA shuddha svarUp svaya.nkA hai, usakI shraddhA karake aur shuddha svarUpakI or jAya. use grahaN kare to usame.nse shuddha paryAye.n pragaT hotI hai.n. ashuddhatAkI or dR^iShTi hai to ashuddha paryAye.n anAdi kAlase hotI rahatI hai. ek ke bAd ek ashuddha paryAyo.nkI shrR^i.nkhalA chalatI hai. shuddhAtmAko grahaN kare to shuddhatAkI paryAye.n pragaT hotI hai. ek hI mArga hai. is mArgakA sevan karake ananta mokShame.n gaye hai.n. sab isI rItase gaye hai.n. nirvANakA mArga ek hI hai, dUsarA nahI.n hai. shuddhAtmApravR^itti lakShaN, bas ek hI.

mumukShuH- ... hame.n shAshvat AtmA batAyA, sabake to aise puNya kahA.Nse ho? to Ap hame.n aisA saral mArga batAIye ki gR^ihasthAshramame.n rahakar durlabh...

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samAdhAnaH- gR^ihasthAshramame.n bhI yah ho sakatA hai. utanI svaya.nkI ruchi, jij~nAsA aur taiyArI ho to gR^ihasthAshramame.n bhI hotA hai. pUrvake sab jIv-bharat chakravartI Adi chakravartI gR^ihasthAshramame.n rahakar bhinna rahate the. gR^ihasthAshramame.n bhI svaya.nkI utanI bhinna rahanekI taiyArI ho to ho sakatA hai. shuddhAtmAko pahachAnA jAtA hai, shuddhAtmAkA nishchay, vishvAs kiyA jA sakatA hai. usame.n pariNati ho sakatI hai, sab kar sakate hai.n, koI kisIko rok nahI.n sakatA. svaya.n andarase nirlep rahe to gR^ihasthAshramame.n sab ho sakatA hai. AtmAkI ruchi, AtmAkA vichAr, vA.nchan sab ho sake aisA hai. AtmAkA svabhAv kaise grahaN karanA, vah sab ho sake aisA hai. dev-guru-shAstra shubhabhAvame.n, a.ntarame.n shuddhAtmA. a.ntarame.n usakI lagan, usakI laganake atirikta kuCh ruche nahI.n. gR^ihasthAshramame.n sab ho sake aisA hai.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! ... gR^ihasthAshramame.n thoDI durlabhatA lagatI hai. yahA.N to sab sahaj- sahaj .. ApakI vANIkA yog, Apake darshanakA yog...

samAdhAnaH- satsa.ng to sabako saral nimitta hai. satsa.ngakI to alag bAt hai, parantu satsa.ng nahI.n ho to svaya.n taiyAr rahanA. svaya.nko taiyArI rakhanI chAhiye, vaise sa.nyogame.n. satsa.ngame.n to AsAn hotA hai, saral hotA hai, parantu puruShArtha to svaya.nko hI karanA hai.

mumukShuH- ... usame.n ananta guN .. to kevalaj~nAnakA a.nsh kaise?

samAdhAnaH- sarva guNA.nsh so samyagdarshan hai. kevalaj~nAnakA a.nsh hai. mati-shrut kevalaj~nAnakA a.nsh hai. matij~nAn hai na? jo j~nAyak svarUp AtmA hai, j~nAnasvarUp AtmA hai usakA jo samyakaj~nAn a.nsh pragaT huA hai. j~nAnakA a.nsh pragaT huA isaliye usame.n kevalaj~nAn A gayA. pragaT kevalaj~nAn nahI.n hai, usakA a.nsh pragaT huA hai.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- hA.N. kevalaj~nAn hai usakA bhed nikAl denA. j~nAnakA samyak a.nsh pragaT huA, (vah) kevalaj~nAnakA a.nsh hai. mati-shrut kevalaj~nAnako bulAtA hai. AtA hai na? kevalaj~nAn shaktirUp hai, parantu samyakarUp pariNamA hai. kevalaj~nAn, aisA usakA bhed nikAl do (to) j~nAnakA a.nsh hai vah kevalakA hI a.nsh hai. samyak a.nsh jo pragaT huA vah kevalakA a.nsh hai. shakti apekShAse kevalaj~nAn hai, anek prakArake shrImadame.n shabda Ate hai.n na? ichChA apekShAse, mukhyanayake hetuse kevalaj~nAn hai.

mumukShuH- j~nAname.n svabhAvakA a.nsh rahA hai?

samAdhAnaH- svabhAvakA a.nsh jo pragaTarUp huA, jo pariNati apanI or (gayI ki) j~nAyakasvarUp-j~nAnasvarUp AtmA hai, usame.n samyakarUp pariNati svAnubhUtikA a.nsh a.ntarame.n pragaT huA. jo svaya.nko jAnanevAlA a.nsh pragaT huA vah kevalakA hI a.nsh hai. mukhya nay, jo samyak nay pragaT huyI, samyak a.nsh pragaT huA vah kevalaj~nAnakA

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a.nsh hai. dravyadR^iShTi pragaT huyI aur us or jo j~nAn gayA, vah j~nAn bhI samyakarUpase kevalakA a.nsh hai. mati-shrutakA bhed nikAl denA. ek j~nAyaka.

"A j~nAnapad paramArtha Che, te...' vah j~nAnapada. usakA jo a.nsh pragaT huA vah kevalakA a.nsh hai. kevalaj~nAn bhI j~nAnakA ek bhed hai. j~nAnakA a.nsh hai. jo a.nsh pragaT huA vah pUrNatA lAyegA.

mumukShuH- jo a.nsh pragaT huA vah pUrNatA bhI lAyegA aur vartamAname.n jo svabhAv hai, use...

samAdhAnaH- jo svabhAv hai vah pUrNa hai. usane pUrNako dR^iShTime.n liyA hai aur j~nAname.n liyA hai. pUrNako dR^iShTime.n liyA hai, pUrNako j~nAname.n liyA hai. bhale pratyakSha nahI.n hai, parantu parokShame.n use j~nAname.n liyA hai. usakA vedan pratyakSha hai. usakA j~nAn bhale pratyakSha nahI.n hai, parantu parokShame.n usane pUrNako j~nAname.n le liyA hai. .. nahI.n hai, parantu pariNatirUp hai.

mumukShuH- aise to use kevalaj~nAn hAthame.n A gayA, aisA koI apekShAse..?

samAdhAnaH- kevalaj~nAn hAthame.n A gayA hai. dR^iShTi apekShAse, j~nAn apekShAse kevalaj~nAn hAthame.n A gayA hai. usakI visheSh pariNati karanI bAkI hai, bAkI to usake hAthame.n A gayA hai. bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA pragaT huyI, j~nAyakakI dhArA pragaT huyI, svabhAvakI or dR^iShTi gayA, svabhAvakI or j~nAn gayA, usakI svAnubhUti huyI, isaliye kevalaj~nAn usake hAthame.n-hathelIme.n A gayA hai. pUrNatA, pUrNa svarUp usake j~nAname.n aur dR^iShTime.n A gayA hai. usake vedaname.n usakA a.nsh A gayA hai.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! muni mahArAj shreNi lagAye us vakta to nirvikalpa dashA hotI hai. upayog andar rahe aur kevalaj~nAn ho tab kyA pharka paDA?

samAdhAnaH- shreNi lagAye to nirvikalpa dashAkI ugratA hai. kevalaj~nAn hotA hai tab vItarAgatA pUrNa hotI hai aur j~nAnakI pariNati pratyakSha pariNati ho jAtI hai, kevalaj~nAn hotA hai taba. usakI j~nAnakI jo pariNati thI vah parokSharUp thI, vah pratyakSharUp ho jAtI hai. usakA jo manakA thoDA avalamban thA vah bhI ChUTakar, kevalaj~nAn honese j~nAn pariNati pratyakSha ho gayI. vItarAgadashA pratyakSharUpase vedaname.n A jAtI hai. vItarAgadashAkI kShati thI. jab shreNI lagAyI tab nirvikalpa dashA thI, parantu vItarAg dashAkI kShati thI. gyArahave.n guNasthAname.n upashA.nt hai. sab shA.nt ho gayA hai. kShINamohame.n kShay hotA hai. parantu vItarAgadashAkI kShati hai. kevalaj~nAn hotA hai tab vItarAgadashA pUrNa ho jAtI hai. ekadam vItarAgadashAkI pUrNatA hotI hai, chAritra pUrNa ho jAtA hai. ab rAgakA a.nsh udabhav nahI.n honevAlA hai. abuddhime.n bhI nahI.n hai. abuddhime.nse ChUT jAtA hai. isaliye abuddhime.n rAg rahatA nahI.n, aisI vItarAgadashAkI pUrNatA (ho jAtI hai). ekadam andar gayA to bAhar

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nahI.n AtA hai. aisI vItarAgadashAkI pUrNatA ho jAy, us vItarAgadashAke sAth j~nAn bhI pUrNa ho jAy, aisA use sambandha hai.

vItarAgadashAkI pUrNatA aur j~nAnakI pUrNatA. j~nAn upayogAtmakarUpase pratyakSha pariNaman karane lagatA hai, jahA.N vItarAgatA hotI hai vahA.N. pUrNa vItarAgatA. sab kShay ho jAtA hai. rAgakA ek bhI a.nsh utpanna nahI.n hotA hai. shrutake chi.ntavanakI or jAtA thA, upayog to usame.n abuddhipUrvak hai, to bhI vah ChUTakar bhI ekadam vItarAgadashA ho jAtI hai. ekadam shA.ntaras ho jAtA hai. usake sAth j~nAn bhI pratyakSharUp ho jAtA hai. bAhar kahI.n dekhane nahI.n jAte. parantu j~nAnasvarUp jo AtmA hai vah pragaT upayogAtmakapane sahaj ho jAtA hai. dekhane nahI.n jAte. vItarAgadashAkI pUrNatA isaliye kevalaj~nAn pUrNa huA. j~nAn pUrNa ho jAtA hai. usake sAth sab pUrNa ho jAtA hai. jin-jin guNo.nkI alpatA thI vah sab pUrNa ho jAte hai.n. param avagADhatA ho jAtI hai. param avagADh samyagdarshan, j~nAn, chAritra sab pUrNa ho jAte hai.n. ananta chatuShTa pUrNa ho jAte hai.n.

mumukShuH- jo upayog andar rakhA vah to andar hI gayA?

samAdhAnaH- andar hI rah gayA, upayog bAhar hI nahI.n AyA. andar jam gaye. jam gaye so jam gaye, bAhar hI nahI.n Aye. andar hI rahA. shreNi lagAyI vahA.N abuddhipUrvak vikalpa the, bAkI upayog andar hI thA. usakI visheSh sthiratA hote-hote use a.ntarmuhUrtame.n shreNI chaDh gaye aur vItarAgadashA pUrNa (huyI to) upayog andar hI rah gayA. vah upayog jo svAnubhUtime.n kArya karatA thA, vah svAnubhUtime.n sab pratyakShapane, use sab pratyakSha ho gayA, vItarAgadashAkI pUrNatA ho gayI. use dekhanekI koI ichChA nahI.n hai. vItarAgadashAkI pUrNatA aur pragaT upayogAtmak j~nAn ho jAtA hai. ek-ek j~neyako jAnane nahI.n jAnA paDatA. sahaj pratyakSha ho jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- upayog andar hI rahatA hai, lokAlok j~nAt ho to...

samAdhAnaH- upayog bAhar nahI.n rakhanA paDatA, lokAlokako jAnaneke liye. upayog to andar svAnubhUtime.n lIn ho gayA. upayog bAhar nahI.n jAtA hai. svAnubhUtime.n upayog lIn hai. usame.n pratyakSha pariNati ho jAtI hai. jo parokSharUp thI vah pratyakSha ho jAtI hai. vItarAgadashAkI pUrNatA aur j~nAnakI pUrNatA. jaisA AtmAse svabhAvase hai, vaisA hI AtmA vaisAkA vaisA rah jAtA hai. jo bAhar jAtA thA vah bAhar jAnA ChUT gayA. jaisA AtmA hai vah pragaTapane pariNamanarUp pratyakSha ho jAtA hai. jaisA hai vaisA chaitanyabrahma AtmA brahmasvarUp AtmA jaisA hai vaisA svaya.n pragaTarUpase pariNamatA hai.

ananta guN-paryAyame.n svaya.n pariNamatA hai. ananta Ananda, ananta j~nAn, ananta sukh, ananta bal, jo ananta-ananta guN hai, us rUp svaya.n pratyakShapane pariNamate hai.n. lokAlok

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yAnI bAharakA jAne, isaliye usakI visheShatA hai, aisA nahI.n hai. svaya.n svaya.nme.n lIn ho jAte hai.n. phir to usakA svabhAv hai isaliye sahaj j~nAt hotA hai. ek samayame.n sab jAn le aisA upayog ho jAtA hai. jo a.ntarmuhUrtakA upayog thA, jo a.ntarmuhUrtame.n j~nAt hotA thA, usake bajAy ek samayame.n jAne aisA usakA upayog ho jAtA hai. ek samayame.n j~nAt ho jAy aisA upayog ho jAtA hai. abuddhipUrvakame.n man sAthame.n AtA thA isaliye use a.ntarmuhUrta jAnaneme.n samay lagatA thA. man ChUT gayA, sahaj j~nAn ho gayA isaliye ek samayame.n sab j~nAt ho jAtA hai. apanA svarUp svAnubhUtime.n jis svarUp svaya.n pariNamatA hai, pratyakShapane use upayogAtmakapane j~nAname.n A jAtA hai. aur dUsare bAhya j~ney bhI sAth-sAth A jAte hai.n.

ananta siddha, ananta sAdhak, ananta sa.nsArI jaise hai.n vaise ananta jaD dravya sab sahajapane j~nAt ho jAtA hai. usame.n use koI vikalpa nahI.n hai. svAnubhUti pradhAn apanA upayog hai. vah sab usame.n j~nAt hotA hai. AtA hai na? aNu reNu vata. kahA.N hai lokAlol, vah aNukI bhA.Nti hai. use koI bojh nahI.n hai, kuCh nahI.n hai. usakI use koI mahattA nahI.n hai. svaya.n svAnubhUtime.n pratyakSharUpase vItarAgadashArUp pariNamit ho jAte hai.n.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- ananta gunA Ananda baDh jAtA hai. phir palaTatA nahI.n, bAhar jAtA nahI.n, use upayogakA pheraphAr hotA nahI.n. anantagunA baDh jAtA hai. jo hai sab ananta hai. vItarAgadashA anantI, Ananda ananta, j~nAn ananta, sab ananta hai. usakI pariNati anantagunI ho jAtI hai. jo svabhAv thA us rUp ananta anantatA pragaT ho jAtI hai.

mumukShuH- ... andar nirvikalpa upayog jyAdAse jyAdA kitanA rahatA hogA?

samAdhAnaH- aisA koI kAlakA niyam nahI.n AtA hai. shreNi lagAnase pahale na? vah to a.ntarmuhUrtakA usakA kAl hai. phir kitanA a.ntarmuhUrta vah kuCh shAstrame.n AtA nahI.n hai. a.ntarmuhUrtakA kAl hai. kShaN-kShaName.n jAtA hai-AtA hai, jAtA hai-AtA hai. AtA hai na? hajAro.n bAr Ate hai.n, jAte hai.n.

mumukShuH- jyAdA samay sthir nahI.n ho sakate hai.n?

samAdhAnaH- ekadam upayogame.n veg A jAtA hai, shreNi lagAte haiai.n. ekadam andar sthir ho jAnekA veg hai. ekadam upayog tvarAse hajAro.n bAr AtA hai-jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- vegase kaise AtA hai?

samAdhAnaH- shreNI lagAnese pahale. aisA shAstrame.n AtA hai. bAkI munio.nkA AtA hai, hajAro.n bAr Ate hai.n-jAte hai.n, aisA shAstrame.n AtA hai. vah to shAstrame.n jaisA ho

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us anusAr (mAn lenA). vah to kAlakI bAt hai na. shAstrame.n ho us anusAr mAn lenA. munio.nkI dashAkI bAt hai.

mumukShuH- shreNI lagAnevAle ho.n, usase pahale veg baDhane lagatA hai, aisA.. samAdhAnaH- aisA shAstrame.n AtA hai. mumukShuH- ... samAdhAnaH- vah kuCh shAstro.nme.n nahI.n AtA hai. jitanA shAstro.nme.n Ave itanA mAnanA. munikI bAt hai. abuddhipUrvak hai. vah to jo kevalaj~nAnIne jo kahA ho us anusAr mAnanekA hotA hai. vah to tarkame.n amuk prakArase biThA sakate hai.n. kyo.nki vah to ekadam a.ntarmuhUrtakA upayog sUkShma upayog hotA hai.