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samAdhAnaH- .. bhinna hai, AtmA bhinna hai. do tattva bhinna hai.n. sa.nkalpa-vikalpa bhI apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai. usase bhinna AtmA kaise j~nAt ho? vah karane jaisA hai. usakI jij~nAsA, usakI mahimA vah karane jaisA hai. tattva vichAr, svAdhyAy Adi sab karane jaisA hai. svAnubhUti kaise prApta ho? vah karane jaisA hai.
ananta kAlase bAhar dR^iShTi karake mAno bAharase sab mil jAyegA, mAno bAharase sab AtA hai (aise pravartatA hai). bAharase kuCh nahI.n AtA, a.ntarame.nse AtA hai. thoDe shubhabhAv kare, kuCh kare to mAno.n mai.nne bahut kiyA, aisA use lagatA hai. parantu vah mAtra puNyabandha hotA hai, devalok prApta hotA hai, lekin bhavakA abhAv to shuddhAtmAko pahachAne to hI hotA hai.
mumukShuH- jAgR^itarUpase vidyamAn hai, shaktirUp hai use jAgR^it kaise kahanA?
samAdhAnaH- vah jAgR^it hI hai. usakA ghAt nahI.n huA hai. usakA j~nAnasvabhAv to jAgR^it hI hai. j~nAn dab nahI.n gayA hai. j~nAnasvabhAv j~nAyak svaya.n jAgR^it hI hai. vah svaya.n bAhar lakShya karatA hai, bAharakA puruShArtha karatA hai isaliye aisA lagatA hai ki mai.n gum gayA. lekin vah jAgR^it hI hai. j~nAyak usakA j~nAnasvabhAvakA ghAt nahI.n huA hai. j~nAyak svaya.n anAdiananta shAshvat jAgR^it hI hai. svabhAvakA ghAt nahI.n huA hai isaliye jAgR^it hI hai.
mumukShuH- ..
samAdhAnaH- shakti to hai, parantu usakA svabhAv j~nAyak svabhAv hai vah jAgR^it hai. shaktikA artha aisA nahI.n hai ki vah shakti aise hI paDI hai, kuCh karatI nahI.n hai aisA nahI.n hai. j~nAyak to jAgR^it hI hai. kArya yAnI paryAyarUp svAnubhav...svabhAv vaisA hI hai.
mumukShuH- ... mumukShutA pragaT huyI hai, aisA svaya.nko apanA jIvan dekhanA ho to kis lakShaNase khyAl Ave ki yah sachchI mumukShutA hai? bAharame.n to sabake sAth sab chalatA rahatA hai, phir bhI kabhI sha.nkA paD jAtI hai ki mumukShutA hI satyArtha hai yA nahI.n?
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samAdhAnaH- mAtra mokSha (abhilASh). ek AtmAkI jise abhilAShA hai, dUsarI koI abhilAShA hai. ek AtmA hI chAhiye. jisakA ek AtmA hI dhyey hai. sab kArya aur sab prasa.ngame.n mujhe ek AtmA hI chAhiye. mAtra AtmAkI abhilAShA hai. jo sab sa.nkalpa-vikalpa, vibhAv hote hai.n, usame.n tanmayatA nahI.n hai, parantu mAtra ek AtmAkI abhilAShA hI jise mukhyapane vartatI hai. vah mumukShutA (hai). mAtra mokSha abhilASh, jise mAtra AtmAkA hI abhilAShA hai. mujhe AtmA kaise prApta ho? mujhe svAnubhUti kaise prApta ho? jise bAhar koI padArthakI ichChA yA kisI bhI prakArakI abhilAShA nahI.n hai. sab kAyAme.n juDe, phir bhI use sab gauN hai. dhyey mAtra ek AtmAkA hai ki AtmAkA kaise prApta ho?
... svAdhyAy, dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA Adi sab hotA hai. lekin ek AtmA kaise prApta ho? AtmAke binA jise kahI.n chain nahI.n paDatI. ... bAra.nbAr batAte the ki tU tere AtmAko dekha. AtmA j~nAnasvabhAv hai. yah sab tujhase bhinna hai, tU tere AtmAko dekha. aisA bAra.nbAr svaya.n andarase jij~nAsAse grahaN karanekA prayatna kare.
mumukShuH- ... vihAr kiyA hai aur jahA.N-jahA.N unake pAvan charaNasparsha huA hai, vahA.N yah bAt ekadam khaDI ho gayI hai.
samAdhAnaH- sab taiyAr ho gaye hai.n. chAro.n or jahA.N-jahA.N unho.nne vihAr kiyA, vahA.N yah AtmAkI bAt chAlU ho gayI.
mumukShuH- gurudev to gurudev the. sabako aise premase gale lagAte the. bachcho.nko, ek bAr hAth lagA de to vah digambar, sachchA digambar ho gayA, aisA lage. gurudevame.n aise koI vishiShTatA thI.
samAdhAnaH- gurudevakI kR^ipA sab par thI. sab AtmAko prApta karo, aisI unakI ek hI (bAt thI). mArga yah hai, samajhame.n AtA hai? sab samajho. yah unake hR^idayame.n thA. pravachaname.n (bolate the), samajhame.n AyA, samajhame.n AyA. pahale to bahut samajhame.n AtA hai, samajhame.n AtA hai, aisA AtA thA.
mumukShuH- Apane pIChalI bAr kahA thA ki jo bhUmi yahA.N AyI hai, to us bhUmime.n jo sAdhanA karate ho.nge, vah AtmA kaisA hogA? vah bAt satya hai, sau pratishat sachchI hai.
samAdhAnaH- .. unake j~nAname.n atishayatA, unakI vANIme.n atishayatA, unakI bAtame.n aisA thA. unakA prabhAv aisA thA.
mumukShuH- abhI ye log Aye hai.n, holame.n baiThe to.. gurudev bolate ho aisA lage. sAkShAt gurudev bolate ho aisA lagatA hai.
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samAdhAnaH- .. isaliye aisA hI lagatA hai. aisA bahut log kahate hai.n. gurudev yahA.N kitane hI varSha rahe hai.n.
mumukShuH- gurudevakI bhUmi, yah kShetra, yah sthAn...
samAdhAnaH- .. aise mahApuruSh jAge to aisA hI hotA hai.
mumukShuH- gurudevakI koI nakal nahI.n kar sakatA.
samAdhAnaH- nakal kahA.Nse kar sake? unakI vANIme.n atishayatA thI, vANIkA puNya bhI alag thA. tIrtha.nkar bhagavAn jo bhaviShyame.n ho.nge, unakI vANI is bhavame.n bhI alag thI, alag hI thI. ... gurudevane ekadam AtmAko samajhAyA. AtmAme.n muktikA mArga hai, svAnubhUti pragaT karo, sab gurudevane mArga batAyA. svAnubhUtime.n Ananda hai. ek AtmA, ek j~nAyak AtmA, sab bhedabhAvo.nko gauN karake ek AtmAko pahachAno, aisA kahate the. sab j~nAname.n Ave, lekin lakShyame.n ek AtmA, akhaNDako lakShyame.n lenA. sab gurudevane batAyA hai. svAnubhUtikA mArga (batAyA hai). ... baraso.n tak yahA.N rahate the aur phir vihAr karate the.
mumukShuH- pUjya gA.NdhIjIne ... do yA tIn pa.nktime.n A jAy, parantu ek-ek vastu par vichAr kare.n to bahut gaharAIse vichAr kar sakate hai.n.
samAdhAnaH- .. AtA hai, mUl shAstra to itane sUkShma hai ki sulajhAnA mushkil paDe. usame.n dravya-guN-paryAy, utpAd-vyay-dhrauvyakI bAte.n AtI hai.n, bahut sUkShma. usake pravachan, gurudevake bahut pravachan (hue hai.n). yah to Apako AsAn paDe isaliye aise...
samAdhAnaH- ... hindustAname.n bahut log yahA.N muD gaye. bahut log yahA.N lAbh lene Ate aur svaya.n bhI vihAr karate the, har sAl kuCh mahine jAte the.
.. chalatA hI rahatA hai, AtmAkA kar lenA vah karanA hai. gurudevane bahut kahA hai. mArga ekadam spaShTa karake batAyA hai. svaya.n puruShArtha kare to kahI.n bhUl rahe aisA nahI.n hai. isaliye gurudevane kahA hai, vahI mArga grahaN karanA hai. AtmAko pahachAnanekA hai. AtmA chaitanya j~nAyakatattva sabase bhinna hai, shAshvat hai. jo deh dhAraN karatA hai, ekase dUsarA, dUsarese tIsarA, lekin AtmA to shAshvat hI hai, isaliye AtmAko grahaN kar lenA. AtmAkA Ananda, AtmAkA sukh aur AtmAke guN kaise prApta ho, vahI jIvaname.n karane jaisA hai. usIke sa.nskAr DAlane aur bAra.nbAr usIkA manan, chi.ntavan karane jaisA hai. dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, svAdhyAy, vichAr, j~nAyak... bAra.nbAr bhedaj~nAnakA abhyAs karanA. AtmAkI svAnubhUti kaise prApta ho, yah karane jaisA hai. vahI karane jaisA hai. bAkI ananta janma-maraN kiye usame.n jIv kahI.n-kahI.n aTak gayA hai, bAharame.n thoDe shubhabhAv kiye to mai.nne bahut kiyA aisA mAn liyA. puNyabandha huA, ananta bAr devalokame.n
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gayA, lekin bhavakA abhAv ho, vah mArga gurudevane batAyA ki tU shuddhAtmAko pahachAna. us shuddhAtmAko pahachAn lene jaisA hai. vibhAvakI jAl khaDI hai, usase svaya.nko bhinna karake, mai.n chaitanya svabhAv nirvikalpa tattva hU.N, use pahachAnane jaisA hai.
.. ek-ek AkAshake pradesh par ananta-ananta bAr (janma-maraN kiye hai.n). ananta mAtAe.N huyI, ananta mAtAko ChoDakar svaya.n AyA, svaya.nko ChoDakar mAtA (chalI jAtI hai), aise ananta bhav kiye. ek shAshvat AtmA hI hai ki jo sabase bhinna chaitanyatattva virAjatA hai. ananta guNase bharapUr, usame.n ananta sukh aur Ananda bharA hai. vah grahaN karanA. svaya.n puruShArthase grahaN karanA. j~nAnase grahaN karanA. j~nAnakA sUkShma upayog karake, uusakI ruchi, jij~nAsA karake j~nAnakA sUkShma upayog karake, yah mai.n chaitanya hU.N aur yah mai.n nahI.n hU.N, is prakAr svaya.n sUkShma upayog karake grahaN karanA. shAstrame.n AtA hai na? praj~nAse grahaN karanA, praj~nAse bhinna karanA.
mumukShuH- .. jisakA abhyAs kam ho, use kaise karanA?
samAdhAnaH- abhyAs kam ho to mUl prayojanabhUt tattvako grahaN karanA. gurudevane prayojanabhUt tattva batAye, ek AtmA grahaN karanA. yah sab bhinna hai.n aur mai.n usase bhinna chaitanyatattva hU.N. usame.n adhik abhyAsakI AvashyakatA nahI.n hai. shivabhUti munine ek bhedaj~nAn kiyA to unhe.n AtmA grahaN ho gayA. ek shabda bhI yAd nahI.n rahatA thA, parantu bhAv grahaN kar liyA. gurune mAsatuSh kahA. mAruSh aur mAtuSh yAd nahI.n rahA. mAsatuSh-yah ChilakA bhinna aur dAl bhinna hai, aise AtmA chaitanyatattva bhinna hai aur yah vibhAv-ChilakA bhinna hai, aise grahaN kar liyA.
mUl prayojanabhUt tattva grahaN kar le to usame.n koI adhik abhyAsakI AvashyakatA nahI.n hai. ek AtmA bhinna prayojanabhUt tattva hai, mai.n chaitanyatattva j~nAyak hU.N, mai.n ek abhed hU.N, usame.n bhedabhAv Adi gauN hai. mai.n ek akhaNDa chaitanya vastu hU.N. j~nAname.n sab jAnatA hai, parantu mai.n ek akhaNDa chaitanya hI hU.N, use grahaN kara.
mumukShuH- ..
samAdhAnaH- saral hai, apanA svabhAv hai isaliye saral hai. anAdikA abhyAs nahI.n hai aur vibhAvakA abhyAs hai, isaliye durlabh aur kaThin ho gayA hai. kyo.nki anAdikA vibhAvakA abhyAs ho rahA hai, isaliye svaya.n apaneApako bhUl gayA hai, isaliye kaThin ho gayA hai. bAkI svaya.nkA svabhAv hI hai, isaliye saral bhI hai aur kaThin bhI hai. kyo.nki anAdise svaya.n bAhar dauDatA hai, a.ntar dR^iShTi nahI.n kI hai.
gurudevane mArga atya.nt saral kar diyA hai. kahI.n khojane jAnA paDe yA kisIko pUChane jAnA paDe, aisA nahI.n hai. gurudevane hI sab batA diyA hai. aur gurudevakA sAkShAt
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upadesh sabane bahut bAr sunA hai. ek saral mArga kar diyA hai, mAtra svaya.nko puruShArtha karanA bAkI rahatA hai. jo kuCh jAnatA nahI.n hai, mAtra kriyAme.n paDe hai.n, shubhabhAvase dharma hotA hai, aisA mAnate ho, chaitanyatattvakA kyA svabhAv, koI adabhUt tattva, svAnubhUtiko samajhate nahI.n ho, use to kaThin lage. gurudevane to ekadam saral kar diyA hai. mAtra svaya.nko puruShArtha karanA bAkI rah jAtA hai.
mumukShuH- jIvan AtmAmay kar lenA chAhiye, to vah bhAv (kaisA hai)? kaise karanA?
samAdhAnaH- mai.n AtmA hI hU.N, yah vibhAv mai.n nahI.n hU.N. mai.n chaitanyatattva hU.N, aisI pariNati pragaT kar lenI. yah bAharame.n jo dikhatA hai vah mai.n nahI.n hU.N. mai.n to tattva hI bhinna hU.N. AtmAmay apanA jIvan-aisI pariNati pragaT karanI chAhiye. aisI svAnubhUtipUrvakakA jIvan pragaT karanA chAhiye. AtmAmaya. aisA nahI.n ho to usakA abhyAs karanA. mai.n ek chaitanyatattva AtmA hU.N. yah sab jo vibhAv dikhatA hai, yah vibhAvakA bhes merA nahI.n hai, mai.n to chaitanyatattva hU.N. aisA jIvan, bAra.nbAr sahaj pariNatirUp kar lenA.
mumukShuH- mAtAjI! AtmAko kais prakArase jAnA jAtA hai?
samAdhAnaH- AtmAko svabhAvase-lakShaNase pahachAnA jAtA hai. usakA jo lakShaN hotA hai, us lakShaNase AtmAko pahachAnA jAtA hai. aisA j~nAnalakShaN AtmAkA asAdhAraN lakShaN hai. j~nAnalakShaNase us dravyako pIChAnA jAtA hai. gurudev aur sachche dev-guru-shAstra batAte hai.n ki AtmA j~nAnasvabhAv hai. use j~nAnalakShaNase pIChAno. j~nAnalakShaN asAdhAraN lakShaN hai, sabase vishiShTa lakShaN hai, usase AtmA pIChAnA jAtA hai. vibhAv lakShaN, rAg lakShaN vah koI AtmAkA lakShaN nahI.n hai. jo jAnatA hai vahI AtmA hai, jo jAnanevAlA hai vahI AtmA hai. jAnanekA lakShaNase vah pIChAnA jAtA hai.
aise to bhItarame.n ananta-ananta guN hai.n, ananta-ananta shaktiyA.N hai.n. vah pahachAnaneme.n nahI.n AtA hai, j~nAnalakShaN hai vah pahachAnaneme.n AtA hai. isaliye j~nAnalakShaNase vah pIChAnA jAtA hai ki j~nAyak hai. j~nAyak pUrNa dravya svarUp j~nAyak hai, usase pIChAnA jAtA hai. j~nAnalakShaNase pIChAnanese, aisA bhedaj~nAn karanese, usakI svAnubhUti karanese jo bhItarame.n usake ananta guN-ananta shaktiyA.N hai.n, vah pragaT hotI hai. nirvikalpa svAnubhUtime.n vah pragaT hotI hai. pahale usakA bhedaj~nAn hotA hai. mai.n ek chaitanya hU.N, mai.n chaitanya svabhAv hU.N. yah sab lakShaN merA nahI.n hai, rAg lakShaN AkulatA lakShaN hai. mai.n j~nAnalakShaN nirAkulatA, shAnti lakShaN aisA merA lakShaN hai. aisA kShaN-kShaName.n usakA bhedaj~nAn (kare). usakI sahaj dashA karanese, aisA sahajarUp ho jAnese jo nirvikalpa svAnubhUti hotI hai to usame.n sab anubhavame.n AtA hai. usakA jo svabhAv hai, vah sab anubhavame.n AtA hai. usakI
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jij~nAsA, usakI mahimA, usakI laganI, bAra.nbAr tattvakA vichAr, svAdhyAy Adi sab honA chAhiye, nira.ntara. sukh AtmAme.n hai, bAharame.n nahI.n hai.
mumukShuH- ... jaise ki yah kramabaddha paryAy pustak hai. usake paDhanese kabhI svachChandapanA bhI AtA hai.
samAdhAnaH- kramabaddha aisA samajhanA chAhiye ki puruShArthapUrvak kramabaddha hotA hai. jo kramabaddha hotA hai, vah kramabaddha aisA hotA hai ki... kramabaddha sachchA kisane jAnA? jisane j~nAyakako jAnA usane kramabaddha jAnA. mai.n j~nAtA hI hU.N. mai.n parapadArthakA kuCh kar nahI.n sakatA, mai.n j~nAyak-j~nAtA hU.N. aisI j~nAtAdhArA jisako pragaT hotI hai, vah sachchA kramabaddha jAn sakatA hai. kramabaddhakA aisA nahI.n samajhanA chAhiye ki puruShArtha nahI.n karake svachChanda karanA, aisA usakA artha nahI.n hai.
puruShArthapUrvak kramabaddha honA chAhiye. puruShArtha (kare ki), mai.n kaise AtmAko pahachAnU.N? kaise svabhAvakI pariNati pragaT karu.N? svabhAvakI pariNatipUrvak kramabaddha hotA hai. puruShArtha binAkA kramabaddha nahI.n hotA. usame.n puruShArtha A jAtA hai.
mumukShuH- puruShArthake liye ham yah sochate rahe.n ki jab honA hogA tab hogA.
samAdhAnaH- honevAlA hotA hai, parantu jisako AtmAkA kalyAN karanA hai, usako aisA honA chAhiye, mai.n kaise puruShArtha karu.N? mai.n kaise karu.N? aisI bhAvanA honI chAhiye. jab honevAlA hogA tab hogA, aisA jij~nAsuko aur jisako AtmAkA svabhAv pragaT karanA hai, usako aisI shAnti nahI.n hogI. usako aisA hotA hai, mai.n kaise AtmAko pahachAnU.N? kaise puruShArtha karu.N? merI svabhAvakI or paryAy kaise hove? usako aise shAnti hogI.
jisakA achChA kramabaddha hove, usako aisA puruShArtha.. puruShArtha aisI bhAvanA hotI rahatI hai. jisako nahI.n karanA hai vah aisA artha le letA hai ki jab honA hogA tab hogA. lekin jisako sachchI jij~nAsA hai, usakA puruShArthapUrvak kramabaddha hotA hai. jisakA hotA hai, usakA puruShArthapUrvak kramabaddha hotA hai.
j~nAyakako jo jAnatA hai usakA hI kramabaddha sachchA hai. jo puruShArtha nahI.n karatA hai, usakA kramabaddha aisA hI hai. usame.n puruShArtha sAthame.n hotA hai. akelI kAlalabdhi nahI.n hotI hai, sab sAthame.n hote hai.n. usako puruShArtha sAthame.n hotA hai.
mumukShuH- kramabaddhakA usane sunA hai, lekin abhI j~nAyak tak pahu.NchA nahI.n hai, to usakA puruShArtha j~nAyakakI or chalatA rahe, to kramabaddhame.n jo honevAlA hogA vah hogA, aise j~nAnakA vah kaise upayog kare?
samAdhAnaH- usakA upayog aise ho ki, usame.n akulAhaT aur ulajhan hotI
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ho to usakA Ashray le, bAkI bhAvanA tIvra ho use usakA Ashray sahaj hI A jAtA hai. bahut AkulatA yA ulajhan hotI ho to usame.n use Ashray AtA hai. bAkI jise svabhAvakI or muDanA hai, mai.n puruShArtha kaise karu.N? yah pramAd kyo.n ho rahA hai? aisI hI usakI bhAvanA hotI hai.
muumukShuH- arthAt kabhI-kabhI use akulAhaT ho jAtI hai ki svabhAv kyo.n prApta nahI.n ho rahA hai? to us vakta kadAchit aisA Ashray le.
samAdhAnaH- hA.N, aisA Ashray le, bAkI puruShArthakI or hI AtmArthIkA lakShya hotA hai. ... mai.n puruShArtha karu.N, puruShArtha karu.N, usame.n kramabaddha to sAthame.n A jAtA hai.
... mai.n parakA kar sakatA hU.N, yah kar sakatA hU.N, vah kar sakatA hU.N.. svabhAvakA Ashray leneme.n kramabaddhakA Ashray le to pramAdakI or usakA chalA jAnA hotA hai. AtmArthIko...
mumukShuH- .. kartR^itva hotA ho, to kramabaddha hotA hai, aisA karake use ChoD detA hai. samAdhAnaH- hA.N, use ChoD detA hai. mumukShuH- parantu jab svaya.nkI bhAvanA ho.. samAdhAnaH- to merA svaya.nkA pramAd hai. mumukShuH- merA svaya.nkA pramAh hai aur mai.n kaise prApta karu.N, aisA use utsAh... samAdhAnaH- utsAh rahanA chAhiye. apane doShakI or dekhatA hai.