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mumukShuH- hame AtA hai, lekin us prakArakA nahI.n hai. jab bhI Apako dekhate hai.n, tab Apake mukhase gurudevakI jo mahimA Apake shrImukhase sunate hai.n, koI gajab hI AtI hai!

samAdhAnaH- is pa.nchamakAlame.n gurudev hI koI adabhut the. unho.nne apUrva vANIkI varShA karake sabako jAgR^it kiyA. sab mumukShuo.nke, sAdhako.nke ve adabhut AdhAr nimitta the. nimitta-upAdAnakA aisA sambandha hai ki jahA.N aise guru ho, vahA.N sab jAgR^it ho jAya.

jagatame.n sarvotkR^iShTa chaitanyadev aur gurudev (hai.n). gurudevane jo sAdhanA karake sabako batAyI, aise sarvotkR^iShTa mahimAva.nt is pa.nchamakAlame.n guru shAshvat hI rahe.n, aisI bhAvanA hai. a.ntarame.n AtmA aur bAharame.n shubhabhAvame.n dev-guru-shAstra hI hote hai.n, dUsarA kuCh nahI.n hotA. gurudev virAjate the, chaitanya... sabako jAgR^it karate the.

.. deshanAlabdhi hotI hai. anAdi kAlakA anajAnA mArga hai, ek bAr sachche dev- gurukA, sAkShAt chaitanyakA vANI use shravaN karane mile, tab use deshanA grahaN hotI hai. shAstrame.nse vah bAdame.n samajhatA hai, parantu pahale to sAkShAt vANI sunakar deshanAlabdhi hotI hai. aisA upAdAn-nimittakA sambandha hotA hai.

mumukShuH- abhI jo hamako apUrvatA lagatI hai to samavasaraName.n vah bAt samajhame.n nahI.n AyI hogI? kyo.nki vartamAname.n hame.n jyAdA lagatI hai. aisA lagatA hai ki samavasaraName.n yah bAt nahI.n samajhe ho.nge. ananta bAr samavasaraName.n gaye.

samAdhAnaH- samavasaraName.n gayA, lekin jIv svaya.n jAgR^it nahI.n huA. koI bAr aisA bhI hotA hai ki is pa.nchamakAlame.n koI mahApuruShakA janma ho aur jIv jAgR^it ho jAy, aisA bhI bane. samavasaraName.n gayA, bhagavAnako ananta kAlame.n dekhe, parantu apUrvatA lagI nahI.n to aise hI vApas A gayA. bAhya dR^iShTise bhagavAnako dekhe, lekin a.ntarase nahI.n dekhA.

mumukShuH- .. kahA to shAstra nahI.n paDhanA? shAstra abhinivesh ho jAtA hai? j~nAnIke Ashrayame.n...

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samAdhAnaH- shAstrame.n hI aTak jAy aur AtmAkI svAnubhUti na kare, us apekShAse. bAkI adhUrApan ho use bIchame.n shrutakA chi.ntavan, shAstra abhyAs Adi sab hotA hai. parantu shAstrame.n hI aTak jAy aur svAnubhUti na kare aur usIme.n aTak jAy to us apekShAse use .. kahaneme.n AtA hai. usakA hetu jo svAnubhUtikA thA vah usane nahI.n kiyA to phir shAstrakA prayojan usane siddha nahI.n kiyA.

prayojanabhUt AtmAko sAdh liyA, svAnubhUti prApta karanI, yah shAstra svAdhyAyakA hetu hai. padmanandI AchAryadevane kahA hai, vyabhichArINI buddhi bAhar ghumatI hai. a.ntarame.n na jAy to vah kis kAmakA hai? lekin kahI.n aur aTakatA ho, usake badale shAstrakA abhyAs mumukShuo.nko hotA hai. kyo.nki use dUsarA AdhAr nahI.n hai, vahA.N shrutakA chi.ntavan (hotA hai). lekin dhyaye nahI.n chukanA chAhiye. gurudev bhI shrutakA chi.ntavan (karate the). unakA shrut koI apUrva thA. parantu gurudev kahate the ki svAnubhUti mukhya hai.

mumukShuH- j~nAnIke Ashrayame.n shAstra paDhane chAhiye, nahI.n to gam paDe binA Agam anarthakArak ho jAy, aisA nahI.n ban sakatA?

samAdhAnaH- j~nAnIne jo artha kiyA ho, us arthako svaya.n grahaN kare. aur phir jo j~nAnIne artha kiyA ho us anusAr artha kare to usame.n dikkat nahI.n hai. lekin apanI mati kalpanAse artha kare to use nukasAnakA kAraN hotA hai. apanI buddhi anusAr kare to. j~nAnIne kyA artha kiyA hai, usakA vah milAn karake kare to vah yathArtha mArgako prApta kare.

mumukShuH- sAmAnya manuShyako to kShayopashamakA abhimAn sahaj ho jAtA hai. j~nAnIko kyo.n nahI.n hotA? kShayopashamakA thoDA ughAD ho to sahaj hI abhimAn ho jAtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- sachchA yathArtha mumukShu ho to use bhI nahI.n hotA. kShayopasham mAtra vah koI sAdhanAkA kAraN nahI.n banatA. sAdhanA to andar svaya.n dravya par dR^iShTi karake usakA j~nAn kare, usame.n lInatA kare to sAdhanA hotI hai. kShayopasham mAtra vah sAdhanA (nahI.n hai). kShayopasham mAtra nahI.n, vah to ek sachchA j~nAn karanekA kAraN banatA hai. vah koI AtmAkI sAdhanA karanekA kAraN nahI.n banatA. isaliye yathArtha mArgase jise svAnubhav pragaT huA, use koI abhimAn honekA kAraN nahI.n banatA.

bArah a.ng aur chaudah pUrvakI labdhi munio.nko pragaT hotI hai. to bhI bhagavAnako kahate hai.n, he bhagavAn! mai.n to alpa mAtra hU.N. mai.n ApakI vANIko pahu.Nch nahI sakatA hU.N. aisA kahate hai.n. svAnubhUtime.n kShaN-kShaName.n jAte hai.n, aise munio.nko bhI dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA AtI hai. koI aise dravya, kShetra, kAl, bhAv na ho ki jahA.N j~nAnio.n virAjate na ho. jahA.N dev-guru-shAstra na ho, aisA kisIko na ho. jise AtmAkI sAdhanA karanI

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hai, use dev-guru-shAstrakA itanA Adar hotA hai.

ananta kAlame.n is jIvako thoDA jAne to (lagatA hai ki) mai.nne bahut jAnA, mujhe bahut AtA hai. is tarah mumukShudashAme.n aTakaneke anek prasa.ng banate hai.n. ataH kahI.n aTakanA nahI.n. ek AtmArthakA prayojan rakhanA, ek AtmArthatAko mukhya rakhanA. jo j~nAnio.nne kahA hai, jo mahApuruSho.nne kahA hai us mArga par chala. bhedaj~nAnakI dashA, jo svAnubhUtikI dashA kis mArgase pragaT ho, usakA lakShya rakhanA. vah mArga kaun-sA hai? j~nAtAkI dhArA, svAnubhUtikI dashA kaise pragaT ho? is lakShyase chalanA hai. chalegA to kahI.n nahI.n aTakegA.

mumukShuH- hame.n to yahA.N sonagaDhame.n sunane milI. nahI.n to diga.nbar tattvame.n bhI hamane aisI bAt to nahI.n sunI.

samAdhAnaH- shAstrake artha hI kaun sUlajhA sakatA thA? gurudevane sab artha kiye, gurudevakI vANIse sab jAgR^it ho gaye. samayasArake artha kaun sulajhA sakatA thA? pravachanasAr aur dUsare adhyAtma shAstra, sab shAstrake artha koI sUlajhA nahI.n sakatA thA. gurudevane hI sab artha kiye. bhedaj~nAnakI dashA, j~nAtAdhArA, kartAbuddhi ChoD, sab artha gurudevane hI sulajhAye hai.n. vastukA mUl rahasya unho.nne hI batAyA hai. koI samajhatA nahI.n thA. amuk sa.npradAyame.n sab kriyAme.n paDe the. kriyAse dharma hotA hai, itanA kar le.n to dharma hogA, itanA shubhabhAv kare.n to aisA hogA, itanA karu.NgA to puNya bandhegA. itanI sAmAyik kar le.n aur itane pratikramaN kare.n, usIme.n sab paDe the.

gurudevane (prakAshit kiyA ki), a.ntarame.n mArga hai, bhedaj~nAnakI aisI dashA pragaT hotI hai, yah kartAbuddhi toD, j~nAtAdhAr pragaT kar, svAnubhUti a.ntarame.n hotI hai. man-vachan- kAyAse sabase atIt, vikalpase atIt, nirvikalpa dashAkI prApti ho, svAnubhUti pragaT ho aur vah baDhate-baDhate munidashA Aye to a.ntarame.n kShaN-kShaName.n jhulate ho. munikI dashA, kevalaj~nAnakI dashA sab gurudevane batAyA. bhagavAn kaise hote hai.n? guru kaise hote hai.n? shAstra kaise hote hai.n? sab gurudevane batAyA. koI nahI.n jAnatA thA, itane sAl pahale. ab sab jAnane lage hai.n. sthAnakavAsI aur derAvAsIme.n sAmAyik kar lo, pratikramaN kar lo, upavAs kar lo, usame.n dharma mAnate the. digambarame.n itanI shuddha aur itanI ashuddhi, usame.n sab aTak gaye the. a.ntarame.n mArga hai, gurudevane itanA prachAr kiyA, sabako jAgR^it kiye hai.n.

mumukShuH- ChaThThe-sAtave.n guNasthAname.n vicharate mahAmuniko shAstra likhanekA bhAv kaise AtA hai? AtmAke Anandame.n jhulate ho ekadama.

samAdhAnaH- AtmAke Anandame.n kShaN-kShaName.n jhulate hai.n, parantu bAhar Ate hai.n. kyo.nki

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abhI kevalaj~nAn nahI.n huA hai. kevalaj~nAn ho to andar shAshvat virAjate ho.n. AtmAkA Ananda aur j~nAnAdi ananta guNo.nme.n virAjate ho.n. parantu bAhar Ate hai.n tab vikalpa utpanna hotA hai. vikalpame.n munio.nko ek dev-guru-shAstrakA vikalpa (utpanna hotA hai). dUsare vikalpa to unhe.n (hote nahI.n), koI bAr AhArakA vikalpa AtA hai. dUsare koI vikalpa unhe.n (nahI.n Ate). ekadam alpa asthiratA hai, sa.njvalanakA alpa kaShAy hai, dUsarA kuCh nahI.n hai. vikalpa AtA hai to unhe.n shubh AtA hai, isaliye shAstra likhanekA vikalpa (AtA hai), munio.n ja.ngalame.n baiThe ho.n, shAstrakA vikalpa AtA hai. vikalpa Aye to likhate hai.n, vApas andar sthir ho jAte hai.n. sthir honeke bAd bAhar Akar to likhate hai.n. bAhar Ate hai.n utanA adhUrApan hai.

kevalaj~nAn huA ho to koI vikalpa nahI.n hai. kevalaj~nAn nahI.n hai isaliye bAhar Ate hai.n, vikalpa AtA hai isaliye likhate hai.n. amR^itachandrAchArya kahate hai.n, "mam paramavishuddhiH shuddhachinmAtramUrte' merI vishuddhake liye mai.n yah shAstra likhatA hU.N. aisA prashasta vikalpa AtA hai.

mumukShuH- mahAvideh kShetrakA bhI mujhe Apake kAraN hI vishvAs huA. nahI.n to is jamAneme.n kaun mAnatA hai? pR^ithvI aisI hai. Apane, pUjya gurudevane jo bAte.n kahI, bahut adbhUt bAte.n lagatI hai.n. adbhUt-adbhUt bAte.n lagatI hai.

samAdhAnaH- abhI to sab matikalpanAse kuCh hai hI nahI.n, aisA kahate hai.n. mahAvideh hai, bhagavAn hai, sab hai. sIma.ndhar bhagavAn virAjate hai.n, divyadhvani ChUTatI hai, samavasaraN hai, sab hai.

mumukShuH- devake bhavame.n Apane avadhij~nAnase narkake bhI duHkh dekhe ho.nge, yah Apako yAd hai? use dekhe.n to hArTa pheIl ho jAy, aisI bAt hai.

samAdhAnaH- sab hai, narka-svarga sab hai. j~nAn aisA hai ki usame.n sab A jAtA hai. sab A sakatA hai. aur vah sab yathArtha hai aur is jagatame.n sab hai. narka hai, svarga hai, mahAvideh hai, sIma.ndhar bhagavAn hai.n, divyadhvani ChUTatI hai, sab hai.

mumukShuH- bahut gajab hai! Ananda.. Ananda.. Ananda ho jAtA hai. svasa.nvedanakI paryAy bhI svaya.nkA lakShya nahI.n karatI aur mai.n dhruv hU.N, aisA... paryAy svaya.n apanA niShedh kare aisI aTapaTI bAte.n to gajab bAte.n lagatI hai. dhruv to kUTastha dhruv hai.

samAdhAnaH- svaya.n j~nAyakarUp dhruv hai. j~nAname.n sab jAnatA hai, vedaname.n use sab AtA hai. svAnubhUtikA vedan hotA hai, j~nAname.n AtA hai aur dhruv ek svaya.n pAriNAmikabhAvasvarUp par dR^iShTi hai. sab sAthame.n vartatA hai. pratyek guN AtmAke... dR^iShTi dravya par hai, j~nAname.n j~nAt ho rahA hai, sabakA vedan ho rahA hai. ananta guNo.nkA vedan,

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AnandaguN Adi sabakA, dravya-guN-paryAy sabako jAnatA hai. aur dR^iShTi shAshvat dhruvarUp dravya (par hai). chaitanyakI sab bAte.n koI adbhUt hai. gurudevane adbhUt mArga prakAshit kiyA hai. bAkI narka, svargakA mai.n kuCh vistArase nahI.n kahatI hU.N. parantu jagatame.n sab yathArtha hai. vah sab kShetra hai, sab hai.

mumukShuH- bachapaname.n kahatI thI ki mai.n vahA.N bakarI thI. mai.nne dekhA hai, .. thA, aise dev the, aisA cha.Nvar DhAlate the, aisI AvAj AtI thI. dUsarA kuCh jyAdA yAd nahI.n hai, parantu samavasaraNakA varNan kiyA.

samAdhAnaH- samavasaraNakA?

mumukShuH- hA.N, mai.n samavasaraNako gap samajhatA thA, itanA sab varNan jainiyo.nne adhikatAke liye hI kiyA hogA. phir vishvAs A gayA. yahA.N Anese bhI sabhI bAto.n par bahut vishvAs ho gayA. koI indra Utarakar samajhAye to bhI samajhe nahI.n, kahA.N aTakate hai.n, yah samajhame.n nahI.n AtA hai. yA phir dhAraNAj~nAname.n..

samAdhAnaH- samavasaraName.n bhagavAn virAjate hai.n. samavasaraName.n divyadhvani ChUTatI hai. munio.n, gaNadhar sab sabhAme.n (Ate hai.n). bakarI thI?

mumukShuH- hA.N, spaShTa bAt kI aur bahut sundar rUpase varNan kiyA. mumukShuH- sAt sAlakI ChoTI thI. ... shrImad rAjacha.ndrakA mandir hai, vahA.N 15- 15 din rahate the. vah bhakti karatI thI, vahA.N aisA phoTo thA, to kahA, yah to mai.nne dekhA hai. mai.n baDe ja.ngalame.n rahatI thI. mai.n bakarI thI. dUsare bachche use chiThAne lage ki bakarI.. bakarI. tab hame.n mAlUm paDA ki yah bakarI-bakarI kyo.n kahate hai.n? tab usane kahA ki, mai.nne yah sab dekhA hai. ghumA-ghumAkar DAkTar TI. vI. shAh the us vakta pUChA thA.

mumukShuH- bakarIkA bhav thA isaliye jyAdA... vah ChoTI thI, aisA kahatI hai, mere bagalame.n baDI bakarI thI. phir aisI bAt kahI ki, bAgh, si.nh, hAthI bhI dekhA, sab bolane lagI. isaliye mujhe Ashcharya huA ki yah bakarIke bagalame.n bAgh, yah kyA kahatI hai? lekin sab varNan kiyA. tabase ekadam vishvAs A gayA ki, yah bA satya hai. samavasaraName.n sab jIv jAte hai.n, bAgh, bakarI Adi. sab gajab bAte.n kI. lekin itanA samavasaraN hI, phir kahA.N gayI, kyA huA, vah koI bAt nahI.n.

samAdhAnaH- kahI.n bhI aTak jAtA hai. AtmAkI orakA puruShArtha chalatA nahI.n. use jahA.N ruchi hotI hai, vahA.N aTak jAtA hai. AtmAkI ruchi karane jaisI hai. AtmArthatAkI mukhyatA rakhane jaisI hai. bAkI kahI.n bhI aTak jAtA hai, use jahA.N ruchi hotI hai vahA.N. koI pramAdame.n, anek jAtake vikalpo.nme.n, anek jAtake vichAro.nme.n kahI.n bhI aTak jAtA

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hai. kisIko kahA.N ruchi lagatI hai, kisIko kahA.N ruchi lagatI hai. ... chaDh jAy aur AtmArthItA gauN ho jAya.

mumukShuH- yahA.N Anese sAmAnya pAp bhI puNyame.n pariNamit ho jAte hai.n, to ApakA svAsthya... Ap to j~nAnI hai.n. Apako takalIph rahe, Ashcharya lagatA hai. hame.n aisA lagatA hai, hame.n bahut lAbhakA kAraN hai. gurudevakI anupasthitime.n hame.n (Apake samAgamase) kitanA Ananda hotA hai. vah koI hAthakI bAt nahI.n hai, gurudev kahate the na, vah hAthakI bAt nahI.n hai. sharIrake kArya sharIr (karatA hai). svata.ntra hote hai.n, apane hAthakI bAt nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- sabako ApakI vANI pA.Nch-pA.Nch miniT mile to bhI bahut... bahut virah lagatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- unakI to bAt alag thI, mai.n to unakA dAs hU.N. apane hAthakI bAt nahI.n hai. sharIrakI kriyAe.N svata.ntra hai.n.