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samAdhAnaH- ... sharIr bhinna, AtmA bhinna, andar sa.nkalpa-vikalpa jo hote hai.n, vah apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai. aisA a.ntarase usakI yathArtha pratIti karake, us prakArakA bhedaj~nAn karake andarase vikalpa TUTakar jaisA AtmA hai, usakA vedan ho, usako svAnubhUti kahate hai.

AtmA jaisA hai, ananta guNase bharapUr, usake guNo.nko jo jAne, usakA vedan kare, AtmAkA Ana.nd jo svAnubhUtime.n vede, usakA nAm svAnubhUti hai. AtmAkA vedan jisame.n ho, usakA nAm svAnubhUti hai. siddha bhagavAnakA jo svarUp hai, siddha bhagavAnakA a.nsh jise svAnubhUtime.n pragaT hotA hai, siddha bhagavAn to paripUrNa ho gaye, unhe.n to kevalaj~nAn Adi ananta guN paripUrNa paryAyarUpase pragaT ho gaye, parantu samyagdR^iShTiko usakA a.nsh pragaT hotA hai. vah gR^ihasthAshramame.n ho, koI bhI kAryame.n ho, to bhI jab vah vikalpase ChUT jAtA hai, tab use svAnubhUti (hotI hai). sva-anubhav AtmAkA vedan hotA hai.

ananta guNase bharapUr jo AtmA hai, us rUp AtmA pariNamit ho jAtA hai. AnandarUp, j~nAnarUp Adi ananta guNarUp pariNamit ho jAtA hai. usakA nAm svAnubhUti hai. jo ananta kAlame.n jIvane bahut kriyAe.N kI, shubhabhAv kiye, shubhabhAvase puNya bandha hokar svargame.n jAy, parantu jo svAnubhUti pragaT nahI.n kI hai, vah svAnubhUti hI mokShakA upAy hai. parantu usakI pahale pratIt karake bhedaj~nAn karake, usake j~nAn-dhyAnakI ugratAse, j~nAtAdhArAkI ugratAse vikalpa TUTakar jo svAnubhUti-nirvikalpa dashA ki jisame.n vikalpa bhI nahI.n hai. vikalpa rahit, jisame.n akele chaitanyakA astittva-AtmAkA astitva hai, usakA nAm svAnubhUti hai.

muumukShuH- bahinashrI! usame.n kyA hotA hai? anubhUti hotI hai, matalab usame.n kyA hotA hai?

samAdhAnaH- anubhUti arthAt AtmasvarUpakA vedan hotA hai.

mumukShuH- andarase Ananda AtA hai?

samAdhAnaH- Ananda Adi ananta guNo.nkA jisame.n vedan ho, usakA nAm svAnubhUti hai. vah koI vANIkI, kathanakI bAt nahI.n hai. vah to usake vedaname.n AtA hai. AtmA

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jaisA hai, vaisA use anubhavame.n AtA hai. AtmAke ananta guN, AnandAdi ananta guNo.nkA jisame.n anubhav hotA hai-vedan hotA hai, koI alag hI duniyAme.n vah chalA jAtA hai. yah vibhAvakI duniyA nahI.n, parantu usakI svabhAvakI duniyA, vahI usakA svaghar hai, usame.n vah bas jAtA hai. svAnubhUti, laukik anubhavase alag alag jo alaukik adabhUt dashA, jo bhUtakAlame.n kabhI nahI.n huyI. vah apUrva hai. jIvane sab kiyA, parantu AtmAkA svAnubhav-samyagdarshan pragaT nahI.n kiyA.

gurudev kahate the ki, samyagdarshan pragaT karanA vah koI apUrva hai. jIvane ananta kAlame.n.. AchAryadev bhI kahate hai.n ki, jinavar svAmi mile nahI.n hai, samyagdarshan nahI.n huA hai. ataH ananta kAlame.n yah dono.n apUrva hai.n. jinavar svAmi mile, lekin svaya.nne pahachAnA nahI.n, isaliye mile nahI.n hai. samyagdarshan koI apUrva hai, ananta kAlame.n jIvane kabhI prApta nahI.n kiyA hai. yadi prApta kiyA ho to usakA bhavabhramaN hotA nahI.n. jise samyagdarshan ho, vah a.ntarame.n Age baDhatA-baDhatA apratihat dashAse jo baDhatA hai, phir kramashaH use munidashA AtI hai. svAnubhUti baDhate-baDhate a.ntarmuhUrta-a.ntarmuhUrtame.n kShaN-kShaName.n AtmAme.n lIn hotA huA, munidashAme.n to aisA lIn hotA hai, a.ntarmuhUrta-a.ntarmuhUrta kShaN-kShaName.n, aisA karate-karate kevalaj~nAn dashAko prApta karatA hai. isaliye jise svAnubhUti hotI hai, usakA to bhavabhramaN miT jAtA hai. usakA pUrA jIvan AtmAmay ho jAtA hai. usakA pUrA jIvan palaT jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- indriy sukh duHkharUp hai. jaise yahA.N sUI chUbhI aur duHkh mahesUs huA, aisA indriy sukh bhogate hue duHkh kyo.n nahI.n mahesUs hotA?

samAdhAnaH- kyA indriy sukh?

mumukShuH- jaise indriy sukh duHkharUp hai, aisA Agamakathan bahut sunA. to jaise yahA.N kA.NTA chUbhAyA to duHkharUp mahesUs huA, aisA indriy sukh bhogate samay duHkharUp mahesUs kyo.n nahI.n hotA?

samAdhAnaH- usako j~nAn nahI.n hai to buddhikA bhram ho gayA. AkulatA-AkulatA hai, sab AkulatAme.n paDA hai. AkulatA hI duHkh hai yAnI buddhikA bhram hai. kalpanAse, bhramase usane sab padAthAme.n sukh mAn liyA hai. bhItarame.n vichAr kare to AkulatA hai, AkulatA hai. svabhAvase viparIt vibhAv dashA sab AkulatArUp hai-duHkharUp hai. AkulatA hai, AkulatAkA vedan hai. kalpanAse use sabame.n sukh lagatA hai. kalpanA hai. vichAr kare to sab duHkh hai. koI aisA dekhaneme.n AtA hai ki yah duHkh hai, parantu sab duHkh hai.

devalokame.n jAy to devalokame.n sukh lagatA hai, narkame.n duHkh dekhaneme.n AtA hai. parantu devalokame.n bhI bhItarame.n AkulatA hai. AkulatA hI duHkh hai. mUl duHkh AkulatA hai.

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bhItarame.n jo AkulatA, sa.nkalpa-vikalpakI AkulatA hai, vah sab AkulatA duHkharUp hai.

jo svAdhIn sukh hai, vah usakA nAm hai, jisame.n parapadArthake AshrayakI jarUrat na hove, parakI jarUrat jisame.n na hove, jo sva-Ashray-chaitanyake Ashrayase-jo pragaT hove, svaya.n pragaT hove, svataHsiddha pragaT hove, vah sukh hai. vah sukh AtmAkA svabhAv hai. jisame.n parapadArthakI jarUrat paDatI hai, indrayo.nkI jarUrat paDatI hai, kisIke AshrayakI jarUrat paDatI hai vah sukh nahI.n hai. jo parAdhIn hai, vah sab sukh nahI.n hai.

gurudev kahate hai.n, parAdhInatAme.n svapname.n bhI sukh nahI.n hai. parAdhInatAme.n sukh nahI.n hai, duHkh hI hai. svAdhIn jo apane Ashrayase-chaitanyake Ashrayase pragaT hotA hai, vahI sukh hai. vah yathArtha sukh hai.

mumukShuH- vachanAmR^itame.n pahale bolame.n AyA ki, yadi bAhar nahI.n ruchatA hai to upayog andar palaT de, AtmAme.n ruche aisA hai. ise prayog paddhatime.n kaise rakhe? shabdame.n to sunate hai.n, paDhate hai.n, lagatA hai, ruchatA bahut hai, jachatA bhI hai, lekin prayog paddhatime.n andar kaise Aye?

samAdhAnaH- upayog palaT de. usakA upayog bAhar jAtA hai to palaT upayogako palaT de. palaTe kaise? usakI ruchi hove to palaTe. usako bAharame.n aisA lage ki yah vibhAv AkulatA hai, sab duHkh hai, AtmAme.n sukh hai, usakI pratIt hove, usakA nishchay hove, j~nAn hove tab upayog palaTe. upayog palaTanA vah to puruShArtha karake palaTatA hai, aise to nahI.n palaTatA hai.

mumukShuH- aise to jachatA hai na ki bAhar nahI.n ruch rahA hai, phir bhI bAr- bAr upayog bAharakI or hI bhagatA hai, AtmAkI or (nahI.n AtA).

samAdhAnaH- apanI kamI, apanI bhUl hai. apanA puruShArtha..

mumukShuH- hame.n abhI tak AtmAkI mahimA nahI.n hai kyA ki jisase aisA lagatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- puruShArthakI kamI hai isaliye bAhar upayog jAtA hai. apanI mahimA lage, bAharame.n sukh nahI.n lage, bAharame.n chain nahI.n lage, AtmAke sukhake binA shAnti nahI.n hove, aisA hove tab upayog bhItarame.n jAya. AtmAke binA jisako chain nahI.n paDatA hai, usakA upayog bhItarame.n jAtA hai. jisako bAharame.n chain paD jAtA hai, to upayog bhItarame.n nahI.n jAtA hai. bAhar chain nahI.n paDe to upayog bhItarame.n jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! gurudevakI Tepame.n (AtA hai ki) kramabaddhakA nirNay hote hI svabhAvakA nirNay ho jAtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- sab kramabaddha hai to kartAbuddhi ChUT jAtI hai. mai.n kisIko karatA nahI.n hU.N, mai.n kisIko kar nahI.n sakatA hU.N. svataHsiddha AtmA anAdiananta hai. usakI paryAy

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bhI svaya.n (hotI) hai. sab kramabaddha hai. svabhAvakA nirNay dR^iDh ho jAtA hai. bhedaj~nAn ho jAtA hai, kramabaddhakA nirNay hotA hai to. kartAbuddhi ChUT jAtI hai aur svabhAvakA nirNay ho jAtA hai. svabhAvakI dhArA pragaT honeme.n puruShArthapUrvak hotI hai. jisako AtmAkA kalyAN karanA hai usako, jaisA bananevAlA hotA hai, banatA hai, ThIk hai (aisA nahI.n hotA). parantu jo puruShArtha karatA hai, jisakA kramabaddha achChA hotA hai usako puruShArtha hI dhyAname.n AtA hai. jo kramabaddha hotA hai, puruShArthapUrvak hotA hai. AtmAme.n puruShArtha lagatA hai, usakA kramabaddha aisA hotA hai. vah puruShArthapUrvak hotA hai. svabhAvakA nirNay kare to kartAbuddhi ChUT jAtI hai. sab kramabaddha hai.

samyagdR^iShTi hotA hai usako nirNay ho gayA ki sab kramabaddha hai. parantu usakI jo puruShArthakI dhArA rahatI hai, vah aisA vichAr nahI.n karatA hai ki honevAlA hotA hai. usakI to puruShArthakI dhArA hI rahatI hai. jisako AtmAkA kalyAN karanA hai, usako mai.n puruShArtha nahI.n karu.N, jaisA honevAlA hai vaisA hogA, aisA vichAr nahI.n hotA. usakA kramabaddha achChA hotA hai, jisako puruShArtha karanA hai, usakA kramabaddha achChA hotA hai.

mumukShuH- nirNay bhI usIkA kahalAyegA ki jisakI sahaj gati andarame.n hogI?

samAdhAnaH- jij~nAsuko aisA vichAr nahI.n AtA ki nirNay honevAlA hotA hai. jij~nAsuko to chain nahI.n paDatI. mai.n nirNay kar lU.N, mai.n aisA kar lU.N. to usakA kramabaddha achChA hotA hai. usako aisA vichAr nahI.n hotA ki, bhagavAnane jaisA dekhA hogA vah hogA. jo puruShArtha kare usakA kramabaddha achChA dekhA hai. jij~nAsuko to puruShArtha par dR^iShTi rahatI hai. bAkI kartAbuddhi parapadArthakI ChUT jAtI hai.

samAdhAnaH- .. vANIme.n Aye aisI bAt nahI.n hai. bAkI jise AtmAkI ruchi lagI, AtmAme.n hI sab bharA hai, bAhar kuCh nahI.n hai. AtmAme.n shAnti, AtmAme.n Ananda, AtmAkI apUrva mahimA, AtmA ananta-ananta j~nAnase bharapUr hai, agAdh ga.nbhIr guNo.nse bharapUr hai. jisake guNo.nkA pAr nahI.n hai, aisA adabhUt AtmA jagatase bhinna, is vibhAvakI duniyAse alag jAtakA AtmA hai. vikalpa TUTakar usakI svAnubhUti hotI hai. pahale vah pratItame.n AtA hai. usakI bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA pragaT (hotI hai). nirvikalpa svAnubhUti honeke bAd jo usakI bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA hotI hai vah sahaj hotI hai. pahale to vichArapUrvak, nirNayapUrvak karatA hai.

mumukShuH- bAra.nbAr AtA hai, svabhAv pragaT hai, pragaT hai, Ap kahate ho jIv jAgR^it hai, jAgR^it hai...

samAdhAnaH- pragaT hI hai, svaya.n hI hai, gupta nahI.n hai. svaya.n vichAr kare to jAnanevAlA svaya.n hI hai. jo paryAy hotI hai, jo vikalpa Ave un sabako jAnanevAlA bhinna hI

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hai. parantu svaya.n ekatvabuddhi mAn rahA hai. use jAnanevAlA svaya.n (hai). dUsareko jAnatA hai isaliye nahI.n, parantu svaya.n hI jAnanevAlA svabhAvarUp svaya.n hI jAnanevAlA hai. usakA jAnanekA svabhAv hai. parase usakA astitva hai, aisA nahI.n, svaya.nse usakA astitva hai. aisA jAnanevAlA svaya.n virAjatA hai, lekin vah dR^iShTi detA nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- doSh apanA hI hai.

samAdhAnaH- apanA hI doSh hai, anAdi kAlase.

mumukShuH- jab bhI najar kare tab sAkShAt svarUp vaisAkA vaisA..

samAdhAnaH- vaisAkA vaisA hai. jise AtmA... usakI bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA to sahaj vartatI hI hai. aisA hI hai. usakA astitva sahaj hai. jo khyAlame.n le use A sake aisA hai.

mumukShuH- kabhI-kabhI aisA hotA hai ki ananta kAl gayA phir bhI jAnA nahI.n aur Apake mukhase sunate hai.n tab aisA lagatA hai ki aisA sahaj hai ki shIghra prApta kar sake aisA hai.

samAdhAnaH- ananta kAlakA anajAnA mArga hai, isaliye vikaT hai. bAkI apanA svabhAv hai isaliye sahaj hai. gurudevane mArga bAtakar sab sahaj kar diyA hai. kahI.n kisIko bhUl na rahe, bhram na rahe aisA spaShTa mArga batAyA hai. svaya.nko puruShArtha karanekA bAkI rahatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- ... j~nAyakakI ruchi hotI hai to sahaj hotA hai. use raTan karanA nahI.n paDatA, use sahaj ho jAtA hai. use khaTak rahatI hai ki yah sab hai, parantu mai.n to bhinna hU.N, mai.n to bhinna hU.N. aisI usako bhAvanA rahatI hai. raTanA bhI nahI.n paDatA. jisako samyagdarshan ho gayA usakI bAt to dUsarI hai, usako to sahaj bhedaj~nAn rahatA hai. usakA to j~nAyakamay jIvan ho jAtA hai. ek AtmAmay jIvan, AtmAkI koI alag hI dishA ho jAtI hai. kyo.nki a.ntarakI dR^iShTi badal jAtI hai. aur jo bhAvanA hotI hai usako bhI aisI khaTak rahatI hai ki yah sab hotA hai, lekin mai.n to bhinna hU.N. raTanA nahI.n paDatA. aisI khaTak rahanI chAhiye, khed honA chAhiye ki mai.n ekatva kyo.n ho jAtA hU.N? jo jij~nAsu hotA hai usakI aisI andar bhAvanA rahatI hai, bhAvanA.

mumukShuH- ekatvame.n khedabuddhi AtI hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, aisA ho jAtA hai ki mai.n aise (ekatva) ho jAtA hU.N. mujhe AtmAkA karanA hai, mujhe AtmAkA karanA hai. jij~nAsA rahatI hai, aisI bhAvanA rahatI hai. .. kaise sahaj hove? mai.n kaise AtmA pahachAnU.N? mai.n kaise tattvakA vichAr karu.N? kyA dravya hai? kaise guN hai.n? paryAy kaisI hai? kaise mai.n shAstra samajhu.N? kyA gurudevane batAyA

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hai? aisI bhAvanA bhItarame.n rahatI hai. raTan karanese vikalpa ho jAtA hai. bAdame.n bhAvanA hove to koI bAr raTan kare, lekin usakI aisI sahaj koI khaTak rah jAtI hai.

jaise laukikame.n koI duHkh hotA hai to bhItarame.n khaTak-khaTak rahatI hai ki aisA kyo.n ho gayA? aisA kyo.n ho gayA? vaise AtmAkI khaTak rahatI hai to, mujhe AtmA kaise mile? mujhe AtmA kaise mile? aisI bhAvanA to rahatI hai. jij~nAsuko aisA rahatA hai. janma-maraN kaise miTe? aisI bhAvanA rahatI hai.

mumukShuH- hame.n kaisA prayAs karanA? shAstrakA abhyAs chalatA hai...

samAdhAnaH- sachchA j~nAn kare to mArga mil jAtA hai. shAstrame.nse mArga mile.... shAstrakA artha samajhame.n na Ave to gurudevane kyA batAyA hai, usakA vichAr kare, kisIko pUChe isakA kyA artha hai? isame.nse koI mArga mile to bhItarame.nse bhI mArga milanekA vah kAraN banatA hai. bAharakA shAstrakA svAdhyAy karanese. kuCh log svAdhyAy karate rahate hai.n, parantu bhItarame.n vichAr na kare to kuCh samajhame.n nahI.n AtA, vah to pAThakI bhA.Nti kar letA hai. parantu vichAr karake samajhanA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- nahI.n, lekin yah bhI hai, jaise apanako ruchi hotI hai to phir vichAr karanekI ichChA bhI hotI hai.

samAdhAnaH- hotI hai, ruchi ho to vichAranekI ichChA hotI hai.

mumukShuH- vichAr karanekI phir ichChA bhI hotI hai. jyAdA paDh nahI.n sakate. AgekA utanA tak to hotA hai, jaise ki, pIChale sAl j~nAn aur rAg alag nahI.n dikhatA hai. ab do-tIn mahinese j~ney-j~nAyak sambandha pustak paDhI, bahinashrI! vah mereko bahut achChI lagI. usame.n mereko, j~nAn alag hai, rAg alag hai, aisA samajhame.n to AtA hai, bAdame.n kaise karanA?

samAdhAnaH- samajhame.n AtA hai, lekin usakA bhed karanA vah alag hai. samajhame.n to A jAy ki rAgakA lakShaN bhinna hai, j~nAnakA lakShaN bhinna hai. j~nAn to bhItarame.n jAnanevAlA hai mai.n hU.N aur rAg bhinna hai. aisA samajhame.n AyA, buddhime.n AyA. buddhime.n AyA lekin usakA bhed karanA vah dUsarI bAt hai.

mumukShuH- bhed kaise kare.nge?

samAdhAnaH- vah to prayatna hove.

mumukShuH- puruShArtha-prayatna kare.nge.

samAdhAnaH- prayatna kare, usakI mahimA hove, usakI jij~nAsA hove ki mai.n kaise karu.N? laganI lage. j~nAyakake binA mujhe chain nahI.n paDatI. rAgame.n mujhe AkulatA lagatI hai. yah AkulatA duHkharUp hai. sukh hove, j~nAyakame.n shAnti hove, j~nAyakako mai.n kaise

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pahachAnu.N? usakI bhAvanA jage, usakI jij~nAsA, laganI lage to usakA bhedaj~nAn hove. binA laganIke nahI.n ho sakatA. jabatak nahI.n hove tabatak jAnanA apanI kShati hai, apanI kamI hai. kamI hai, jij~nAsA kam hai, puruShArtha kam hai. jabatak nahI.n hove tabatak vichAr karanA, svAdhyAy karanA, nahI.n hove tab taka. AkulatA nahI.n karanA.

... bAt nahI.n AtI, bhedaj~nAnakI koI bAt nahI.n AtI hai. mAtra kriyAkI bAt AtI hai ki, aise karo, upavAs karo, yah karo, vah karo, aisA hI sab AtA hai.

mumukShuH- ... aisA lagA ki ajIb-ajIb lagane lagA. paDhate hai.n nA to ajIb- ajIb lagatA hai. mai.n bolatI, yahA.Nke pAtra hai digambar baDe rahasyAtmak hai. kabhI kuCh tarIkA batAye, kabhI kuCh nahI.n karanA, nayA-nayA lagatA. paDhate vahI kA vahI saba.

samAdhAnaH- andarase naye-naye rahasya nikalate jAte hai.n. AchayAkI kathanIme.n gaharAI hai. bahut gaharAI hai. jIv, ajIv-ajIv, ajIv, parantu bIchame.n jo rAg hotA hai, vah rAg chaitanyakI paryAyame.n hotA hai, usakA nimitta karma hai. koI apekShAse chaitanyakA kahaneme.n Aye, koI apekShAse jaDakA kahaneme.n Aye, usakA bhedaj~nAn karanA. usakI nishchay- vyavahArakI sandhi karanA usame.n bahut aTapaTA hotA hai. vichAr karake biThAnA paDatA hai.