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samAdhAnaH- ... vikalpa sahit Ananda hove, vah Ananda kisI bhI prakArakA ho, parantu vikalpa TUTakar Ananda Ave, apane Ashrayame.nse Ave, chaitanyamese utpanna huA Ananda ho, vikalpa TUTakar, jo vikalpakI AkulatA hai, AkulatA TUTakar a.ntarame.nse vikalpa ChUTakar jo Ananda Ave, vah AtmAke Ashrayase AtA hai. koI vikalpa khaDe ho aur jo Ananda Ave, vah Ananda koI dUsare prakArakA hai.
mumukShuH- sachchA Ananda nahI.n hai.
samAdhAnaH- koI ullAs Ave, Ananda Ave vah alag hai. usame.n shubhabhAv sAthame.n rahA hai. isame.n to vikalpa TUTakar svabhAvakA Ananda Ave, bhedaj~nAn karatA huA, j~nAtAkI dhArAkI ugratA karatA huA, usame.n vikalpa ChUTakar jo Ananda Ave vah Ananda alag hotA hai. svabhAvame.nse pragaT hotA huA Ananda hai.
vikalpase pAr honA bahut mushkil, durlabh hai. usakA abhyAs karate-karate hotA hai. pahale usakI shraddhA hotI hai ki mai.n vikalpase bhinna hU.N, mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, aisI pahale shraddhA ho, bAdame.n vikalpa TUTanekA prayatna bAdame.n hotA hai, abhyAs karate-karate. kisIko hotA hai to a.ntarmuhUrtame.n hotA hai, nahI.n hotA hai use abhyAs karate-karate hotA hai.
mumukShuH- abhyAsame.n bhI vikalpa dvArA hI abhyAs hotA hai.
samAdhAnaH- abhyAsame.n bhI vikalpa to sAthame.n hai. jab tak vikalpa ChUTA nahI.n, tab tak vikalpa to sAthame.n rahA hI hai. parantu vikalpa merA svarUp nahI.n hai, usakI shraddhA bhinnatAkI rakhakar a.ntarase jo prayatna ho vah alag hotA hai. merA svarUp nahI.n hai, yah merA svarUp nahI.n.
muumukShuH- nirvikalpa AnandakI anubhUti hotI hai vah kitanI der TikatA hai? koI kahatA hai, bIjalIke chamakAre jitanA rahatA hai. mAlUm kaise paDe? bijalIke chamakArekI bhA.Nti hotA ho to mAlUm nahI.n paDe. aisA hotA hai?
samAdhAnaH- aise svaya.nko mAlUm paDatA hai. use mAlUm nahI.n paDatA aisA nahI.n hotA. use svaya.nko svAnubhUtime.n mAlUm paDatA hai ki yah svAnubhav hai. usakA kAl a.ntarmuhUrtakA hai, ChoTA-baDA kaisA bhI ho, a.ntarmuhUrtakA kAl hai.
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mumukShuH- yAnI ek-do miniT...?
samAdhAnaH- usakA amuk kAl hai, parantu vah pakaD sakatA hai. kisIko thoDA jyAdA hotA hai, kisIko thoDA kam hotA hai, parantu vah pakaD sake aisA hotA hai. pakaD na sake aisA nahI.n hotA.
mumukShuH- hA.N, nahI.n to usakA prayojan kyA?
samAdhAnaH- yadi pakaD nahI.n sake to... aise hI chalA jAy to svaya.n pakaD nahI.n sakatA hai.
... puruShArthakI gati ho us anusAr hotA hai. aur gR^ihasthAshramame.n jaisA usakA puruShArtha ho vaisA hotA hai. munio.nkI to bAt hI alag hai, ve to a.ntarmuhUrtame.n kShaN-kShaName.n hotI hai. lekin gR^ihasthAshramame.n jaisI usakI puruShArthakI gati ho, usakI sahaj dhArA ho vaise hotA hai. usakA koI niyam nahI.n hotA. phir shrAvakakI dashAme.n usase visheSh hotA hai. jise deshavrat hote hai.n, usakI a.ntarakI sthiratA baDhatI hai, use jyAdA hotA hai. chaturtha guNasthAname.n amuk prakArase hotA hai. parantu sabako puruShArthakI gati ek samAn ho aisA nahI.n hai. usakI puruShArthakI gatikI jo sahaj dhArA ho, us anusAr hotA hai.
mumukShuH- ek bAr kisIko anubhav ho gayA, phir do-chAr sAlake bAd bhI na ho, aisA banatA hai?
samAdhAnaH- aisA nahI.n banatA. do-chAr sAl nikal jAye, aisA nahI.n banatA.
mumukShuH- to bhramaNA hI huyI hai na? koI aisA mAnatA ho ki mujhe samyagdarshan ho gayA hai, do-chAr sAl tak (anubhav) nahI.n hotA, aisA shAstrame.n...
samAdhAnaH- do-chAr sAlakI (bAt nahI.n hai). .. samayame.n use hotA hI hai. do- chAr varShakA (a.ntar nahI.n paDatA). sabako yahI karanekA hai.
mumukShuH- ... bahut kam kAl to rahatA hai na? samyagdR^iShTi ho aur bhale...
samAdhAnaH- ekadam gati hai na? isaliye munio.nkI ginatI...
mumukShuH- isaliye aisA hai. bAkI samyagdR^iShTiko...
samAdhAnaH- usakA aisA koI niyam nahI.n hai. samyagdR^iShTiko paun sekaNDa hI rahe aisA niyam nahI.n hai. a.ntarmuhUrtakA usakA niyam hai. munio.nko ekadam gati hotI hai isaliye.
.... j~nAnapUrvakakA dhyAn honA chAhiye. mai.n yah chaitanya hU.N, vah use grahaN honA chAhiye, svaya.nkI praj~nAse ki mai.n yah chaitanya hU.N, aise grahaN hokar bAdame.n usame.n ekAgratA hotI hai. to j~nAnapUrvakakA dhyAn (hotA hai). apane svabhAvako pahachAnakar dhyAn, apanA
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astitva grahaN karake dhyAn honA chAhiye. samajhe binAkA dhyAn kare apanA to vah dhyAn nahI.n karatA hai. parantu apanA astitva grahaN karake dhyAn honA chAhiye. (apanA astitva) grahaN honA chAhiye.
samAdhAnaH- ... parako nahI.n jAnatA hai, aisA nahI.n hai. svaparaprakAshak j~nAn hai. parakA j~nAn usame.n nahI.n AtA hai, aisA nahI.n hai. us shabdakA Ashay grahaN karanekA dUsareke hAthame.n rahatA hai. dUsarA aisA hI kahe ki, jaisA apane mAnate hai.n vaisA hI kahate hai.n. vah to vyavahAr hai, aisA karake nikAl de. parako jAnanA vyavahAr hai, vah nishchay hai. jis prakArase artha karanA ho vaise kar sakatA hai.
nishchay-vyavahArakI sandhi aisI hai ki parako jAnatA hI nahI.n hai aisA nahI.n hai. parake sAth ekatvabuddhi karake parako jAnanA, aisA koI muktikA mArga nahI.n hai. svaya.n svaprakAshak pUrvak usame.n par A jAtA hai. vastu sthiti aisI hai ki svako jAnate hue par j~nAt hotA hai. koI aisA khI.Nche ki svako jAnatA hai... .. sandhikA mel nahI.n AtA hai, vah... ... gurudev bhI kahate the, lekin vajan kahA.N denA? aur kis lAIn par...
mumukShuH- mAtAjI! thoDI aur spaShTatA ShaTakArak...
samAdhAnaH- ShaTakArak apaneme.n hai. paryAy koI svata.ntra vastu duniyAme.n nahI.n hai. akhaNDa ek dravya hai, paryAy dravyake Ashrayase hai. phir bhI use svata.ntra kahaneme.n AtA hai, vah koI apekShAse kahaneme.n AtA hai. jaise dravyame.nse ananta-ananta bhAv, ananta paryAye.n pragaT hotI hai, vaise paryAyame.nse ananta, ek paryAyame.nse ananta paryAye.n nahI.n hotI. paryAy to ek kShaNake liye hai. usake ShaTakArak kahaneme.n AtA hai, vah sab apekShAse kahaneme.n AtA hai. ShaTakArak jo dravyame.n lAgU paDate hai.n, vah alag prakArase lAgU paDate hai.n. paryAyame.n lAgU paDate hai.n, vah dUsare prakArase lAgU paDatA hai. usakI apekShA samajhanI chAhiye.
paryAyako ekadam nikAl doge to paryAyakA vedan hI nahI.n rahegA. paryAyakA vedan hotA hai, paryAy kShaNik hai, paryAyako svatantra mAnanI aur paryAyako dravyake AshrayavAlI mAnanI, usakI sandhi karanI, vah sab muktike mArgame.n yathAsthit hotA hai. dravyadR^iShTi mukhya rakhakar usame.n paryAy sAthame.n AtI hai. us paryAyako dravyakA Ashray hai, nahI.n hai aisA nahI.n. paryAyako svata.ntra bhI kahate hai.n. kyo.nki vah kShaNake liye svaya.n utpanna hotI hai, svaya.n nAsh hotI hai. lekin use Ashray dravyakA hai. dono.nkI sandhi karanI chAhiye. sandhi na kare to svaya.n bhUlA paDatA hai. usame.n pharka kahA.N paDatA hai? vajan kahA.N denA vah samajhanevAle par AdhAr rakhatA hai. bAt ek hI hotI hai ki dravyadR^iShTi mukhya rakhakar usake sAth paryAyakI bAt karate hai.n. jabaki dUsarA, dravyadR^iShTi mukhya karake usame.n svaya.n
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niShedh kahA.N karatA hai, vah pakaD nahI.n sakatA hai. parako jAnatA hI nahI.n hai, aisA niShedh bhAv AtA hai, use svaya.n pakaD nahI.n sakatA hai. usakA niShedh bhAv nahI.n AnA chAhiye aur usakI ekatvabuddhi nahI.n honI chAhiye. apane j~nAtAkI mukhyatA rakhakar usame.n paraprakAshak AtA hai. parantu paraprakAshak kahate hue koI niShedh karatA hai, koI use khI.NchatA hai. ab, usame.n kaise sandhi karanI (vah) apaneko (karanI paDatI hai). isIliye gurudev charchAkI bAtame.n paDate hI nahI.n the. vAdavivAd jahA.N ho, vahA.Nse gurudev nikal jAte the.
pAlItAnAse nikal gaye. charchA karo. to vah bole, chale gaye, chale gaye. gurudevane kahA, bhale chale gaye, sAt bAr chale gaye. hame.n charchA nahI.n karanI hai. isaliye gurudev charchAme.n paDate hI nahI.n the. nishchay-vyavahArakI sandhi hI aisI hai. kise kahA.N khI.NchanA vah usake hR^iday-Ashay par AdhAr rakhatA hai.
vahA.N shA.ntiprasAd sAhUne, gajarAjajIke ghar par kahA, charchA karo. gurudev charchAme.n paDanA hI nahI.n chAhate the. ve to apane mArga par hI chalate the. kise kahA.N kaise khI.NchanA vah apane hAthakI bAt hai. ek pakSha bAtako khI.Nch le, to yahA.N aisI bAt ho ki parako nahI.n jAnatA hai, aisA nahI.n hai. to phir sAmanevAle aise chalate hai.n ki ve log parako jAnatA hai, parako jAnatA hai, aisA kahate hai.n. aise lete hai.n. aisA hotA hai.
kShetra bhedake liye (aisA kahate hai.n), TUkaDe mAnate hai.n. TUkaDe nahI.n hai, aisI apekShA kahate hai.n to ye log vyavahArakI (bAt) karate hai.n, svata.ntratA (nahI.n mAnate hai.n).
mumukShuH- vyavahArAbhAsI ho gaye.
samAdhAnaH- hA.N, vyavahArabhAsI ho gaye. kisIko Ashay samajhanA nahI.n hai aur khI.nchAtAnI karanI hai. aisA hai. muktike mArgame.n nishchayapUrvak vyavahAr hai. usame.n vyavahArakI nAsti nahI.n AnI chAhiye aur vyavahArakI pakaD bhI nahI.n honI chAhiye, aise dono.n samajhanA chAhiye. vyavahArako pakaDe ... nAsti bhI nahI.n AnI chAhiye, to muktikA mArga hI nahI.n rahegA, vyavahArakA niShedh hogA to. nishchay-vyavahArakI sandhikA ... hai. nishchay- vyavahArakI sandhi kaise karanI? nishchay-vyavahArakI sandhime.n hI ulajh jAte hai.n.
gurudevakI nishchayakI dhUn chaDhI thI to nishchayase kahate the, parantu unakA Ashay vaisA nahI.n thA. unakA Ashay andar sab sandhipUrvak thA. koI bahut khI.Nch letA to gurudev use koDe mArate the. aisA thA. bahut khI.Nch le to unhe.n pasanda nahI.n AtA thA. .. samajhanA mushkil hai. bAt to ek hI hotI ho. koI aisA kahe ki ham kahate the vaisA hI kahate hai.n. koI is or khI.NchatA ho to aisI bAt kare to koI us or khI.Nche to... lAbhake kAraN kahate hai.n. parantu samajhanA ki nishchayako mukhya rakhakar vyavahAr
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sAthame.n hotA hai. vyavahArakA niShedh... dR^iShTi vaisA niShedh kare, parantu vyavahArakA niShedh aisA nahI.n honA chAhiye ki paryAy AtmAme.n sarvathA hai hI nahI.n.
paryAy na ho to vedan kisakA? mokShamArga kisakA? sAdhak dashA kaisI? sab kaisA? Age baDhanA kyA? kuCh bhI nahI.n rahatA. muni chAritrame.n Age baDhate hai.n. vItarAgadashA pragaT karate hai.n. kab vItarAgatA ho? kab ho? gR^ihasthAshramame.n samyagdR^iShTi aisI bhAvanA bhAte hai.n. isI kShaN vItarAgatA hotI ho to yah kuCh (nahI.n chAhiye). dR^iShTike jorame.n aisA nahI.n kahate hai.n ki dR^iShTike jorame.n vah sab A gayA. vah to hogA, jab honA hogA. aisA nahI.n kahate. kab aisI paryAyakI shuddhi hogI? kab aisA puruShArtha hogA? kab aisI paryAy pragaT hogI? aisI shuddha nirmal paryAye.n kab pragaT hogI? aisI puruShArthakI dhArA mujhe kab shurU hogI? aisI puruShArthakI bhI bhAvanA bhAte hai.n. dravyadR^iShTi pragaT ho gayI, ab kyA puruShArtha (karanA)? dravyadR^iShTime.n puruShArtha A gayA. vah to ek dravayadR^iShTikI bAt hai. parantu puruShArthakI bhAvanA bhI sAthame.n aisI rahatI hai. kab vItarAgatA hogI? kab yah sab ChUT jAye? kab mai.n mere AtmAkI svAnubhUtime.n lIn ho jAU.N? bAhar nahI.n AU.N, aisA divas mujhe kab AyegA? aisI bhAvanA bhAte hai.n. kShaN-kShaName.n aisI bhAvanA use bahut bAr A jAtI hai. sarvathA niShedh nahI.n honA chAhiye. usakI mukhyatA-gauNatA hotI hai, usakA niShedh nahI.n AnA chAhiye. usakA prayojan .... samajhanA chAhiye. parako jAnatA hI nahI.n, to-to j~nAn aur j~ney, sab usame.nse nikal jAtA hai.
mumukShuH- mAtAjI! dravya aur paryAyake bhedaj~nAnake liye, dravya aur paryAyake bIch bhedaj~nAnake liye, yah paryAy is guNakI athavA yah paryAy is ..kI hai, itanA rakhakar paryAy pratikShaN apane ShaTakArakase pariNamati hai, vah kathan hai yA vAstavame.n vastusthiti hai? vastusthiti arthAt dravya-paryAy milakar ek pUrI vastu hai, usakA svIkArapUrvak dravya aur paryAyakA bhedaj~nAn karanA ho, tab yah paryAy is dravyakI hai, athavA j~nAnakI paryAy j~nAnaguNakI hai, itanA rakhakar paryAy apane ShaTakArakase pariNamati hai, aisA kahanA aur paryAyakA kartA vAstavame.n dravya hI hai. yah to ek apekShAse kahaneme.n AtA hai. in dono.nme.n vAstavikatA kyA hai?
samAdhAnaH- paryAyakA kartA dravya...?
mumukShuH- svata.ntrapane apane ShaTakArakase pariNamatI hai? andarake bhedaj~nAnakA jab vichAr kare.n, paradravyakI apekShAse to aisA kahe.n ki dravya paryAyakA kartA hai, paryAyakA karaN hai Adi ShaTakArak dravya aur paryAyake abhed kahe. aur jab andar-andar bhedaj~nAnakA viShay karanA hai, tab dravya kUTastha hai aur paryAyake ShaTakArakase paryAy svaya.n svata.ntrapane pariNamati hai, aisA jo kahaneme.n AtA hai, svata.ntra pariName usame.n itanI apekShA to rakhI
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hai ki yah paryAy is dravyakI hai aur yah paryAy is guNakI hai. (paryAy) apane ShaTakArakase pariNamati hai, vah vAstavame.n vastusvarUp hai yA prayojanakI siddhike liye kahaneme.n AtA hai?
samAdhAnaH- vah j~nAname.n jAne ki is guNakI yah paryAy hai aur is guNakI yah paryAy hai, aisA jAne. parantu vAstavame.n vah paryAyakA karaN aur paryAy kartA, paryAy sa.npradAn, paryAy apAdAn vah yathArthame.n to dravyame.n lAgU paDatA hai. paryAy svata.ntra (hai). paryAyako guNakA Ashray hai aur paryAyako dravyakA Ashray hai. svaya.n dravyadR^iShTi karake mai.n shuddhirUp puruShArtha karake usakA pariNaman karu.N, kaise sthiratAkI nirmalatA vR^iddhigat karu.N, kaise svAnubhUtikI or jAU.N, is tarah apanI paryAyakI nirmalatA pragaT karanekI bhAvanA rahatI hai.
yadi vaise paryAy svata.ntra ho jAy, puruShArthakA use AdhAr na ho aur vah svata.ntra ho jAy to usakI bhAvanA kaise rahe ki mai.n yah puruShArtha karu.N? paryAyakI nirmalatA (kaise pragaT karu.N)? kevalaj~nAn kaise pragaT ho? usame.n puruShArtha to svaya.nko karanekA hI hai. paryAy svata.ntra pariName to bhI puruShArtha to svaya.nko karanekA hai. svata.ntra hai bhI aur svata.ntra nahI.n bhI hai. usako puruShArthakA Ashray rahatA hai, dravyakA Ashray rahatA hai. dravyake Ashray binA vah paryAy Upar-Upar nahI.n hotI. use Ashray to dravyakA hai.
svaya.nkI dravyadR^iShTi hai, us dravyadR^iShTikA bal baDhane par vah paryAy svata.ntra, pariNamatI hai svaya.n, parantu dravyadR^iShTike balase pariNamatI hai. dravyake Ashray binA to pragaT nahI.n hotI hai. use Ashray to dravya aur guNake Ashrayase paryAy pragaT hotI hai. pragaT hotI hai isaliye use pragaT kI, (aisA kahate hai.n). paryAy ek svata.ntra vastu hai, aur vah apanese pariNamatI hai. parantu usakI shaktiyA.N jo hai.n paryAyarUp pariNamanekI vah dravyame.n aur guNo.nme.n bharI hai. usame.nse vah pragaT hotI hai, avasthAe.N pragaT hotI hai. andar khajAnA bharA hai, dravya aur guNo.nme.n hai, usame.nse vah pragaT hotI hai. ataH use Ashray to dravyakA hai. isaliye mUl vastu guN aur dravya, usame.nse vah pariNamatI hai.
svaya.n kartA, svaya.n karaN... svaya.n usame.n svabhAvase kuCh dUsarA nahI.n kar sakatA hai yA usame.n koI pheraphAr nahI.n kar sakatA hai. usakA jo paryAyakA svabhAv hai, us prakArase vah pariNamatI hai. usakI hAni-vR^iddhi, usakA tAratamyatA vah kaisI, usame.n svata.ntra hai. usame.n koI pheraphAr nahI.n kar sakatA. usake puruShArthako dravyadR^iShTike balase usame.n jo svabhAv ho us rUp pariNamatI hai. usame.n vah pheraphAr nahI.n kar sakatA hai. isaliye vah svata.ntra hai. kartA, karaN, sa.npradAn, apAdAna. is tarah usakA jo svabhAv hai, j~nAnakA j~nAnarUp, darshanakA darshanarUp, chAritrakA chAritrarUp usame.n vah pheraphAr nahI.n kar sakatA. usakI hAni, usakI vR^iddhi, usake avibhAg pratichChed, vah sab kaise pariName, vah svata.ntra hai. lekin
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usame.n Ashray dravyakA hai. dravyake Ashrayase vah pariNamatI hai. Uparase nahI.n AtI hai. dravyake khajAneme.n vah bharA hai, usame.nse vah AtI hai.
mumukShuH- us apekShAse dravya hI kartA hai, dravya hI karaN hai, aisA jo kahaneme.n AtA hai vah bhI yathArtha hai.
samAdhAnaH- hA.N, vah yathArtha hai. dravyake khajAneme.n hI vah sab bharA hai. ananta- ananta shaktiyA.N ananta kAl parya.nt pariName, vah dravyakI shaktime.n sab bharA hai. usame.nse paryAy pariNamatI hai. lekin paryAyakA pheraphAr (nahI.n kar sakatA hai). unake jaise svabhAv hai.n ki, j~nAnakA j~nAn, darshanakA darshan, chAritrakA chAritra, usake avibhAg pratichChed, usakI hAni-vR^iddhi, usakI tAratamyatA vah sab svata.ntra paryAy pariNamatI hai. usame.n koI pheraphAr nahI.n kar sakatA. lekin jo pragaT hotA hai vah dravyame.nse pragaT hotA hai. dravyake bAharase nahI.n pragaT hotA. use dravyakA Ashray hai. isaliye vah dravyadR^iShTike balase, lInatAke balase, samyagdarshanake balase nirmal paryAye.n pragaT hone lagatI hai.
jabatak dR^iShTi bAhar thI, tabatak vibhAv paryAy pariNamatI thI. dR^iShTi apaneme.n gayI isaliye svabhAv paryAye.n pariNamane lagI. jo apane svabhAvame.n bharI hai, vah sab paryAye.n pragaT hone lagI. vItarAg dashA hotI hai, vahA.N kevalaj~nAn Adi pragaT hotA hai. vah svaya.n pragaT hotA hai, parantu use Ashray (dravyakA hai). dravyame.n kevalaj~nAnakI shakti hai, usame.nse vah pragaT hotA hai. dravyame.n shakti hai, j~nAnaguName.n shakti hai. vah sab guN dravyame.n hI abhedarUp rahe hai.n. ek-ek guN bhale hai svata.ntra, parantu dravyame.n abhedarUpase rahe hai.n. usame.nse paryAy pragaT hotI hai. isIliye use usakA vedan hotA hai. paryAy bhinna, guN bhinna aur usakA vedan bhinna (aisA nahI.n hai). guN apekShAse, paryAy apekShAse, sa.nj~nA apekShAse bhed hai. parantu vah sab shaktiyA.N dravyame.n hai, dravyame.nse vah paryAye.n pragaT hotI hai. ataH vAstavik rItase dravyame.nse (pragaT hotI hai), isaliye dravya usakA kartA, karaN, sa.npradAn dravya hai. parantu svata.ntra paryAy pariNamatI hai. vah pariNamit hokar jo bAhar AtI hai, vah svaya.n svata.ntra pariNamatI hai. isaliye vah svaya.n kartA, karaN is tarah paryAyako svata.ntra lAgU paDatI hai. kaisI nirmalatA, kaise avibhAg pratichChed, kaisI tAratamyAt, is tarah svata.ntra hai.