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mumukShuH- bAr-bAr jo hai, is jIvako viShay aur kaShAyo.nkI taraph kyo.n dhyAn baT jAtA hai? kyo.n jA rahA hai vahA.N?

samAdhAnaH- ananta kAlame.n vah pariNati, abhyAs aisA ho gayA hai. ananta kAlase aisA abhyAs ho rahA hai. us orakI ruchi ho rahI hai, us or sukh lag rahA hai. AtmAke sukhakI or dhyAn nahI.n hai. sukh mere AtmAme.n hai, mai.n sukhakA dhAm hU.N, us or utanA pUrA dR^iDh vishvAs nahI.n hai aur parame.n sukhabuddhi ho rahI hai. bAharame.n jAtA hai na, isaliye sukhabuddhi ho rahI hai. AtmAme.n sukh hai, AtmA j~nAnasvarUp hai, j~nAyak hai, jAnanevAlA hai, AtmAme.nse j~nAn pragaTatA hai, AtmAme.n Ananda pragaTatA hai, AtmA koI adabhut vastu hai, aisI jo dR^iDh pratIti usako bhItarame.nse honI chAhiye vah bhItarame.nse dR^iDh pratIti nahI.n hai. pratIti buddhise to karatA hai, parantuu bhItarame.n chaitanyadravyako pahachAnakarake bhItarame.nse jo dR^iDh pratIti nahI.n hai, isaliye bAr-bAr bAhar jAtA hai aur anAdi kAlase aisA parame.n jAnekA abhyAs hai, puruShArtha manda hai aur ruchi bAharame.n lag rahI hai. bAharame.n yadi sukh nahI.n lage, ruchi nahI.n lage, chain nahI.n paDe.

yah to AkulatArUp hai, duHkhakA kAraN hai, duHkh svarUp hai, aisA yadi vishvAs hove ki mere AtmAme.n sukh hai, sukhakA kAraN, sukhakA svarUp AtmAme.n hai, aisI dR^iDh pratIti bhItarame.nse Aye to Udharase vApas muDe aur bhItarame.n jAya. parantu dR^iDh pratIti jo a.ntarame.nse AnI chAhiye aisI a.ntarame.n pratIti nahI.n hai aur bAharame.n ruchi lagI hai, isaliye bAr-bAr vahA.N jAtA hai. isaliye usakI dR^iDh pratIti bhItarame.nse puruShArtha karake karanI chAhiye. vah nahI.n hove tab tak bAr-bAr vahI karanA, nahI.n hove tabataka. shAntipUrvak dhairyase karanA chAhiye. aise AkulatA karanese nahI.n hotA, parantu shAntise, jij~nAsAse, bhItarame.n lagan laganI chAhiye ki bhItame.nse sukh kaise pragaT ho? aisI laganapUrvak shAntise, dhairyase usake svabhAvako pahachAnakarake karanA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- ... abhI tak jo hai sukh AtmAme.n nahI.n mAnA hai aur bAharase buddhigat dvArA to mAn liyA. lekin a.ntarase jo hai vishvAs nahI.n hai. a.ntarame.n sukhakA anubhav nahI.n hotA. is kAraNase bAr-bAr jo hai jin sukho.nko anAdi kAlase isane bhog

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rakhA hai, usakI taraph usakA dhyAn baTatA rahatA hai. aur usake kAraN hI usame.n sukh mAnatA hai. yahI (kAraN hai)?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, is kAraNase. sukhakI dR^iDh pratIti nahI.n hai bha bhItarame.n isaliye bAhar jAtA hai. aur usako duHkh lage ki ye to duHkhasvarUp hai, AkulatA lage, shubh aur ashubh dono.n bhAv AkulatArUp hai aur shuddhAtmA hai vah sukharUp hai. shubhabhAv hai vah puNyabandhakA kAraN hai to bhI us shubhabhAvame.n bhI AkulatA hai, AtmAkA svarUp to nahI.n hai. jo siddha bhagavAnakA svarUp (hai), siddha bhagavAname.n koI shubh yA ashubhabhAv nahI.n hai, aise AtmAme.n koI isakA svabhAv nahI.n hai. shubhabhAvame.n bhI AkulatA hai. in dono.n bhAvase mai.n bhinna shuddhAtmA nirvikalpa tattva hU.N, aisI dR^iDh pratIti bhItarame.nse AnI chAhiye to pariNati svakI or jAy aur parase haTe. usase virakti hove, usame.n shAnti nahI.n lage, AtmAme.n shAnti, sukh lage to svabhAvame.n jAya. aisI dR^iDh pratIti karanI chAhiye.

mumukShuH- dR^iDh pratIti kam hai.

samAdhAnaH- pratIti kam hai, bAra.nbAr abhyAs nahI.n hai, puruShArtha kam hai isaliye.

mumukShuH- puruShArtha bhI nahI.n hai, dR^iDh pratIti bhI nahI.n hai. bahut sundar, ati sundara.

samAdhAnaH- bAra.nbAr mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, aise j~nAyakakI mahimA AnI chAhiye. j~nAyakame.n ananta guN, Ananda sab j~nAyak svabhAvame.n hai, aisI mahimA AnI chAhiye. phir kShaN- kShaN bhedaj~nAn kare. j~nAyakame.n ekatvabuddhi kare, mai.n parase vibhakta (hU.N). kShaN-kShaName.n jo vikalpa AtA hai, vah mai.n nahI.n hU.N. mai.n to chaitanyatattva hU.N, yah mai.n nahI.n hU.N, mai.n to chaitanya hU.N. mai.n parapadArtha, vah tattva mai.n nahI.n hU.N, mai.n to chaitanya padArtha hU.N. aise bAra.nbAr bhedaj~nAnakI pariNati karanI chAhiye. sva j~nAyakame.n ekatvabuddhi aur parase bhedaj~nAn karanA chAhiye. aisI bhedaj~nAnakI pariNati pragaT hove tab bhItarame.nse svAnubhUtikA mArga ho sakatA hai. bhedaj~nAn pragaT kare aur j~nAyakakI pratIti kare, bhedaj~nAn kare to ho sakatA hai.

mumukShuH- j~nAyakakI pratIti a.ntarase..

samAdhAnaH- a.ntarase honI chAhiye.

mumukShuH- shabdo.nkA, akSharo.nkA...

samAdhAnaH- nahI.n, shabdo.nse nahI.n, bhItarase (honI chAhiye).

mumukShuH- bhAvo.nse aisA Ave, aisI sthiti bhAvo.nke andar A jAve to kAm bane.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, to kAm bane. bhAvame.n (AnA chAhiye).

mumukShuH- abhI to bahut dUr hai. satya svIkAr karaneme.n jo ... apan to ThIk mArga par Aye hai.n. kyA AnandakA anubhav huA! AjakA prasa.ng baDA ThIk lagA, ma.ngalakArI

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lagA. lekin a.ntarakI taraph ... AtmAme.n sa.nskAr baDA kaThin lagatA hai. pratIti nahI.n hai, vishvAs nahI.n hai, AtmAkA sukh pratibhAsit nahI.n hotA. AtmAkA sukh shabdo.nse jarUr bhAsatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- gurudev kahate the ki tujhase na ho sake, puruShArtha manda hove, na ho sake to shraddhA to yathArtha karanA ki mArga to yah hai. pratIt to aisI dR^iDh rakhanA ki shubhAshubh bhAvase bhinna mai.n chaitanyatattva j~nAyakatattva hU.N. aisI shraddhA to yathArtha karanA. shraddhA karake phir puruShArtha dhIre-dhIre hove, parantu pratIti to yathArtha karanA. kisIko jaldI puruShArtha hotA hai, kisIko dhIre hotA hai, parantu shraddhA to bhItarame.nse yathArtha karanA.

mumukShuH- vishvAs to AyA hai, vishvAsame.n to kuCh (gaDabaDI nahI.n hai. vishvAs to barAbar mahesus hotA hai ki mArga to sachchA yahI hai. mArga jo hai, satya mArga to yahI hai. lekin is mArga par chalaneme.n bAr-bAr anukUlatA-sukhAnubhav ... baDI kamajorIsI lag rahI hai. bAr-bAr anya taraph jo hai dhyAn baTatA hai. parivArame.n, gharame.n, bAharame.n, arthame.n, yah sArI kamajorI hai.

samAdhAnaH- kamajorIkA kAraN hai. ruchi, puruShArtha, pratIti bhItarame.nse dR^iDh karanA. pratIti dR^iDh hove to vikalpa TUTe to svAnubhUti hove. pahale to a.ntarame.nse karanA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- vishvAsakI dR^iShTise to barAbar hai, bAkI abhI pariNatikI dR^iShTise (kamajorI lag rahI hai.)

mumukShuH- AtmAme.n j~nAnaguN hai, to j~nAnaguNakI paryAy to barAbar jAnaneme.n AtI hai, sukhaguN bhI AtmAme.n hai, to sukhaguNakI paryAy to jAnaneme.n nahI.n AtI.

samAdhAnaH- sukhaguN hai. j~nAnasvabhAv aisA asAdhAraN guN hai. vah asAdhAraN hai isaliye j~nAn to jAnaneme.n AtA hai, parantu sukhaguN hai (use) bAharame.n sukhakI kalpanA ho rahI hai. sukhaguN to jab svAnubhUti hotI hai, vikalpa TUTe tab sukhakA anubhav hotA hai. to usako Ananda pragaT hotA hai. sukhakA svabhAv aisA hai, j~nAnakA svabhAv aisA hai ki asAdhAraN guN hai to j~nAn to jAnaneme.n AtA hai. sukhakA svabhAv aisA hai.

j~nAn to aisA asAdhAraN visheSh guN hai, isaliye vah jAnaneme.n AtA hai ki yah j~nAn hai, mai.n j~nAyak hU.N. bhedaj~nAn karake... A.nshik shAnti (pragaT ho), parantu yathArtha AnandakA anubhav to vikalpa TUTe tab AtA hai. svAnubhUtime.n Ananda AtA hai. usakA svabhAv aisA hai. AnandaguN aur j~nAnaguName.n pharka hai. j~nAn to asAdhAraN guN hai.

mumukShuH- visheSh guName.n bhI taphAvat hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, taphAvat hai. AtmAme.n ananta guN hai. usame.n j~nAnaguN mukhya asAdhAraN

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guN hai. visheSh guN hai. chetan-chetanAguN asAdhAraN hai. dono.n tattva bhinna paDe-jaD tattva aur chaitanyatattva. jaD kuCh jAnatA nahI.n hai. chaitanyatattva jAnanevAlA hai. vah usakA asAdhAraN guN hai. pudagalakA jaD hai, jAnatA nahI.n hai. asAdhAraN guN hai, j~nAn svabhAv hai. visheSh guN hai.

mumukShuH- sukhaguN visheSh guN hai?

samAdhAnaH- j~nAnasvabhAv visheSh guN hai, AtmAkA mukhya guN hai. j~nAnaguN mukhya hai. sukhaguN mukhya hai, parantu vah vikalpa TUTe binA anubhavame.n nahI.n AtA. jab vikalpa TUTe tab vah anubhavame.n AtA hai. sukhaguNa. aur j~nAnasvabhAv to aise jAnaneme.n AtA hai ki mai.n jAnanevAlA hU.N. j~nAnasvabhAvako lakShaNase pahachAn letA hai.

mumukShuH- vikalpa TUTe to sukhaguN anubhavame.n Aye.

samAdhAnaH- sukhaguN pragaT hotA hai.

mumukShuH- ...vikalpa TUTanA aur vikalpAtIt avasthA prApta karanA, ye to...

samAdhAnaH- anumAnase pratIti kar sakatA hai ki j~nAname.n sukh hai, j~nAname.n Ananda hai, AtmAme.n (sukh hai, aisI) pratIti to ho sakatI hai. parantu anubhav AnandakA vikalpa TUTe tab AtA hai. ho sakatA hai. vikalpAtIt avasthA, nirvikalpa dashA svAnubhUti (ho sakatI hai). samyagdarshan usako kahate hai.n, jisako svAnubhUti hotI hai usako samyagdarshan kahate hai.n. svAnubhUti ho sakatI hai. gR^ihasthAshramame.n svAnubhUti (hotI hai). samyagdarshan pragaT (hotA hai). vikalpAtIt vikalpase atIt nirvikalpa dashA ho sakatI hai. muniko visheSh hotI hai. kShaN.. kShaN.. kShaName.n nirvikalpa dashA vikalpa (TUTakar) kShaN-kShaName.n svAnubhUti hotI hai. gR^ihasthAshramame.n aisI nahI.n hotI, kam hotI hai, parantu ho sakatI hai. vikalpAtIt avasthA ho sakatI hai. samyagdarshan is pa.nchamakAlame.n ho sakatA hai. svAnubhUti nirvikalpa dashA pa.ncham kAlame.n ho sakatI hai.

mumukShuH- santo.nkA to lag rahA hai, mai.nne ek-do din apanA thoDAsA sthagitasA rakh liyA aur itavAr takake liye (ruk gayA), bAkI parivAravAlo.nko Aj (bhej diyA). unako thoDI kam-sI ruchi thI to unako pAlItANA vagairah (gaye).

samAdhAnaH- parapadArthame.n ruchi lagI hai, AtmAme.n ruchi kam hai. AtmAme.n ruchi lage, bas, AtmAme.n sab hai, bAharame.n nahI.n hai. AtmAme.n sukh hai, Ananda hai, ananta guNase (bharapUr) AtmA adabhut vastu hai. aise AtmAkI mahimA Ave, AtmAkI ruchi lage tab AtmAkI (mukhyatA) ho.

mumukShuH- ye bhI usIkA Ananda huA na, jo chaitanyakA Ananda hai usako chaitanyakI prApti samajhame.n A jAy ki mai.n chaitanya hU.N, to usakA man bhI lagane lagegA.

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samAdhAnaH- to man bhI lage. paramArthakA pa.nth ek hI hotA hai.

mumukShuH- ek hI hai, vah chaitanyakA.

samAdhAnaH- chaitanyakA. usakI ruchi, usakA j~nAn, usakI shraddhA, usame.n lInatA, basa.

mumukShuH- kyo.nki mai.n jo hU.N, mandir jAtA hU.N to minaT lagatI hai. ... mai.n roj hU.N. lekin mai.n do ghaNTe nahI.n baiThatA. do minaTame.n bhI agar ham koshiSh karate hai.n ki kisI tarahase man jo hai chalAyamAn na ho, to vah utanI der bhI sthir nahI.n ho pAtA.

samAdhAnaH- jinendra bhagavAnane sab kuCh pragaT kar diyA, bhagavAn to AtmAme.n lIn ho gaye. bhagavAn AtmAkI svAnubhUtime.n lIn hai.n. to merA bhI AtmA aisA hai. mai.n chetan hU.N, aisA chetanakA dhyAn kare to bhI ho. usakI mahimA honI chAhiye, usakA puruShArtha honA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- itanA samajhame.n AtA hai. isake bAd bhI kamI hai ham logo.nme.

samAdhAnaH- .. apanA astitva j~nAyakakA grahaN kare, usakA bAra.nbAr abhyAs kare ki mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, j~nAyak hU.N. kShaN-kShaName.n dhokhanerUp alag hai, parantu a.ntarame.nse kare to yathArtha hotA hai. dhokhanerUp usakA nirNay kare vah alag bAt hai. parantu a.ntarame.nse mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, yah mai.n nahI.n hU.N. apanA astitva grahaN kare.

mumukShuH- a.ntarame.nse isaliye nirvikalpatAse?

samAdhAnaH- nahI.n, nirvikalpa to bAdame.n hotA hai, pahale abhyAs hotA hai. nirvikalpa to use vikalpa TUTakar svAnubhUti hotI hai. vah to svAnubhUtirUp hai. vah to abhyAs kare usakA phal hai. usakA phal AtA hai. svAnubhUti vikalpa TUTakar (hotI hai). ye to use vikalpa Ane par bhI, vikalpa so mai.n nahI.n hU.N, aisI pratIti, aisA j~nAn aur pariNati a.ntarame.n aisA abhyAs kare. bhale gaharAIse nahI.n ho, parantu gaharAIse, yathArtha gaharAIse kare to-to usakA phal yathArtha AtA hai. bAra.nbAr mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, a.ntar svabhAv pahichAnakar kare. jise hotA hai use svAnubhUti a.ntarmuhUrtame.n hotI hai. jise na ho, vah bAra.nbAr abhyAs kare. bAra.nbAr ChAChakA ma.nthan karanese usame.nse makkhan nikalatA hai. mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, j~nAyak hU.N, (aisA kare to) makkhan Upar Aye. vaise nirAlA j~nAyak pragaT ho, svaya.nko anAdise vibhAvakA abhyAs hai, apanA abhyAs kare to pragaT hotA hai.

mumukShuH- upayogame.n upayog, AtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- upayogame.n upayog, krodhame.n krodha. bhedaj~nAn kare ki mai.n chaitanyarUp hU.N, yah mai.n nahI.n hU.N. svame.n ekatva aur parase vibhakta. apaneme.n ekatvabuddhi kare, parase vibhaktabuddhi

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kare. buddhime.n grahaN kare, parantu a.ntarase grahaN kare to yathArtha hotA hai.

mumukShuH- vachanAmR^itame.n hai, ghoDA jaise Chala.ng lagAye, vaise kisIko..

samAdhAnaH- kisIko jaldI hotA hai. ghoDA Chala.ng lagAye aise ekadam a.ntarmuhUrtame.n hotA hai aur kisIko dhIre-dhIre hotA hai. vah to usakI jaisI puruShArthakI gati.

mumukShuH- usake pahale to puruShArtha sab vikalpakA hI hotA hai na?

samAdhAnaH- sAthame.n vikalpa hote hai.n, parantu mai.n vikalpa nahI.n hU.N. aisI pratIti usake sAth honI chAhiye. vikalpa Aye, phir bhI mai.n vikalpa nahI.n hU.N. vikalpase mai.n bhinna hU.N, mai.n bhinna hU.N. us prakArakA a.ntarase abhyAs, aisI pariNati pragaT kare. vikalpa Ane par bhI mai.n vikalpa nahI.n hU.N, aisA bhedaj~nAn kare, aisI shraddhA kare. jo ChUTe vah to.. vikalpa to pahale hotA hI hai, anAdikAlase vikalpame.n to paDA hI hai. usase ChUTanekA prayatna kare ki vikalpa mai.n nahI.n hU.N.

mumukShuH- j~nAyakame.n ananta guN lene?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N. ek j~nAyakakA astitva grahaN kiyA usame.n ananta guN A jAte hai.n. use j~nAname.n sab Aye, parantu dR^iShTi to koI bhed nahI.n karatI hai. vah to abhedako ek sAmAnyako grahaN kar letI hai, apanA j~nAyakakA astitva. usame.n usakI ananta shaktiyA.N, ananta guN A jAte hai.n.

mumukShuH- aur vedaname.n bhI ananta guN Ate hai.n?

samAdhAnaH- vah to use svAnubhUtime.n Ate hai.n. ananta guNo.nkI paryAy hotI hai. ananta guNakI paryAy use vedaname.n (AtI hai). lekin usake koI bhinna-bhinna nAm nahI.n hote. usake vedaname.n AtI hai.

mumukShuH- svAnubhUtike vedanakI kaisI shAnti aur kaisA atIndriy ras hotA hai, usakA thoDA varNan....

samAdhAnaH- vah to koI vachaname.n nahI.n AtA. jagatase bhinna hai, jagatase bhinna hI hai. jo use vibhAvakA Ananda aur vibhAvakA ras hai vah to alag hai. ye to nirvikalpa Ananda hai. chaitanyake Ashrayame.nse... chaitanyarUp hai, chaitanyame.nse pragaT huA Ananda hai. use kisIkA Ashray nahI.n hai. svaya.n apane Ashrayame.nse pragaT huA hai. jaise barpha hai, aise svaya.n ananta shAnti, ananta ThaNDakase bharA hai, ananta Anandase bharA hai. shAnti ek alag chIj hai, ye to ananta Anandase bharA hai, ananta j~nAnase bharA hai. vah to usakA guN hI hai. jo apane guN hai.n, un guNo.nkI paryAy pragaT hotI hai. use koI vikalpakA Ashray nahI.n hai. jahA.N AkulatA nahI.n hai. shAnti to hai, parantu Ananda pragaT hotA hai.

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mumukShuH- lakShya to dravyakA aur vedan paryAyakA.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, vedan paryAyakA. lakShya dravyakA, vedan paryAyakA.

mumukShuH- paryAyame.n to jaise kaShAyase bhedaj~nAn ho, tab ek kaShAyake abhAv jitanA svAnubhUtike kAlame.n vedan hotA hai na? prathamame.n to.

samAdhAnaH- kaShAyakA abhAv hokar jo...

mumukShuH- anantAnubandhIke abhAvakA.

samAdhAnaH- anantAnubandhIke abhAvakA.... pahale to vah bhedaj~nAn karatA hai ki mai.n yah nahI.n hU.N. vah to bhedaj~nAn hai. vikalpa TUTakar jo AtA hai, vah to usake chaitanyame.nse (AtA hai), vah to usame.nse AtA hai. bhedaj~nAn kare to amuk a.nshame.n use shAnti lagatI hai. Ananda to, savikalpame.n use Ananda nahI.n hai, parantu shAnti aur samAdhi jaisA lagatA hai. bAkI vikalpa TUTakar to Ananda uChalatA hai, vah alag hai. vah savikalpame.n nahI.n hotA hai, vah nirvikalpame.n hI hotA hai.

mumukShuH- vah Ananda kaisA?

samAdhAnaH- kaisA vah koI kah sakatA hai? ghI kaisA hai? ghIkA svAd kaisA hai? chInI kaisI hai? mIThI. to kaisA mIThA, vah bolanekI bAt nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- dR^iShTAntake rUpame.n? samAdhAnaH- dR^iShTAnta... vah to anupam hai, use kisIkI upamA nahI.n lAgU paDatI.