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mumukShuH- Aj subah Tepame.n AyA thA ki kevalaj~nAnI sarva Atmapradeshase jAnate hai.n. to svAnubhUtime.n bhI sarva pradeshase AtmA j~nAt hotA hai?

samAdhAnaH- use kahA.N kevalaj~nAn pragaT huA hai, use to kShayopashamaj~nAn hai.

mumukShuH- parantu vah to pratyakSha hai na?

samAdhAnaH- A.nshik vedan pratyakSha hai.

mumukShuH- vedan pratyakSha hai, pradesh pratyakSha nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- pradesh nahI.n hai, vedan pratyakSha hai.

mumukShuH- to sarva pradeshase?

samAdhAnaH- use jIvake pradesh dab nahI.n gaye hai.n. use nirAvaraN asa.nkhya pradeshame.n amuk a.nsh to khulle hI hai.n. usake khulle a.nshase jAnatA hai.

mumukShuH- indriyaj~nAname.n to barAbar hai ki amuk a.nsho.nse jAnatA hai. parantu atIndriy vedanake kAlame.n?

samAdhAnaH- vah jAnatA hai lekin jo kevalaj~nAnI jAnate hai.n, vaise vah nahI.n jAnatA hai. vedan pratyakSha hai. thoDA jAne aur thoDA na jAne, aisA nahI.n hai. pUre AtmAko jAnatA hai.

mumukShuH- pUre AtmAko lekin sarva pradeshase?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, sarva pradeshase pUre AtmAko jAnatA hai. use bhed nahI.n paDatA hai ki itane pradesh jAne aur itane pradeshase nahI.n jAnatA hai, aisA bhed nahI.n paDatA. sarva pradeshase, sarvA.ng vedan hotA hai. amuk pradeshame.n vedan hotA hai aur amukame.n nahI.n hotA hai, aisA nahI.n hai. sarvA.ngase vedan hotA hai aur sarvA.ngase vah jAnatA hai.

mumukShuH- j~nAn bhI sarvA.ngase...?

samAdhAnaH- j~nAn bhI sarvA.ngase aur vedan bhI sarvA.ngase. thoDA vedan hai aur thoDe pradeshame.n nahI.n hai, yA thoDeme.n j~nAn hai aur thoDeme.n nahI.n hai, aisA nahI.n hai. sarvA.ngase j~nAn aur sarvA.ngase vedan hai. parantu vah vedan pratyakSha hai. kevalaj~nAnIkA j~nAn pratyakSha hai.

mumukShuH- sa.npUrNa pratyakSha hai.

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samAdhAnaH- sa.npUrNa pratyakSha hai.

mumukShuH- andarame.n shAntikI dhArA chalatI hai. prachur Ananda kahate hai.n, prachur Ananda. vah prachur kitanA? mAp kyA?

samAdhAnaH- bAra.nbAr kShaN-kShaName.n a.ntar AtmAme.n jAtA hai na. shuddhaupayogakI dhArA bAra.nbAr pragaT hotI hai. bAhar AtA hai aur a.ntarame.n jAtA hai. a.ntarmuhUrta-a.ntarmuhUrtame.n andar jAtA hai aur a.ntarmuhUrtame.n bAhar AtA hai, a.ntarmuhUrtame.n a.ntarame.n jAte hai.n. ataH prachur svasa.nvedan hai. bAra.nbAr.. bAra.nbAr.. bAra.nbAr.. bAra.nbAr a.ntarame.n jAte hai.n. aur kaShAy to bilakul alpa ho gaye hai.n. sa.njvalan ekadam patalA ho gayA hai. vItarAg dashA vR^iddhigat ho gayI hai. vItarAg dashA vR^iddhigat ho gayI hai isaliye Ananda bhI baDh gayA hai.

mumukShuH- prachur ho gayA hai.

samAdhAnaH- prachur ho gayA hai. bAr-bAr a.ntarame.n jAte hai.n aur vItarAg dashA ekadam baDh gayI hai. isaliye Ananda prachur svasa.nvedan hai.

mumukShuH- gurudev to chale gaye, ab gurudevakI bahut yAd AtI hai, hame.n kyA karanA?

samAdhAnaH- yAd Aye to gurudevane jo mArga batAyA, us mArgako grahaN karake usakA abhyAs karanA. gurudevane jo kahA hai, use yAd karanA. mArga batAyA, a.ntarame.n dR^iShTi karanekA. use andar pIghalAnA, usakA vichAr karanA, usakA abhyAs karanA. vah karane jaisA hai. jo gurudevane kahA vahI karane jaisA hai.

mumukShuH- bahut-bahut dhanyavAda. Apane bahut kR^ipA karake bahut achChA mAl diyA.

samAdhAnaH- (gurudevane) mArga batAyA hai.

mumukShuH- bahut batAyA hai, bahut batAyA hai. bahut spaShTatA kI hai.

samAdhAnaH- ekadam spaShTa karake khullA kar diyA hai. sab kriyAkANDame.n aur shubhabhAvase dharma mAnate the. usame.n ekadam a.ntar dR^iShTi aur dravyadR^iShTi batA dI, svAnubhUti batAyI. aur baraso.n tak vANI barasAyI.

mumukShuH- barAbar hai, barAbar hai.

samAdhAnaH- tIrtha.nkar jaisA kAm is pa.nchamakAlame.n kiyA. dravya-guN-paryAyakI kisIko sha.nkA nahI.n rahI, aisA kiyA hai.

mumukShuH- kuCh bAkI nahI.n rakhA. likhA hai na? mA.ngame.n tel bhare, ek-ek mA.ngame.n aise ek-ek pahalU spaShTa kiye hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- sab pahalU khulle kiye.

mumukShuH- sabakA kAm bahut jalda ho jAyagA.

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samAdhAnaH- ek hI mantra gurudevane diyA hai, j~nAyak AtmAko pahachAna. svame.n ekatvabuddhi, parase vibhakta ho jA. to vahI svAnubhUtikA mArga hai.

samAdhAnaH- .. pIChe paDe to hue binA rahe nahI.n. svaya.n hI hai, anya koI thoDA hI hai. parantu pahale usakA kAraN pragaT kare. abhI to vibhAvakI ekatvabuddhi khaDI hai. svame.n ekatvabuddhi, parase vibhakta-(bhinnatA) kare to usakA mArga ho. vah buddhi-ekatvabuddhi to khaDI hI hai. vibhAvakI ekatvabuddhi. svaya.n svaya.nme.n ekatva kare, (vibhAvase) vibhakta kare to vikalpa TUTanekA prasa.ng Aye. abhI to ekatvabuddhi hai. ekatvabuddhi hai usame.n vikalpa kaise TUTegA?

bahut log dhyAn karake vikalpa.. vikalpa.. vikalpa.. ChoDane jaisA hai (aisA kahate hai.n), parantu kaise ChUTe.nge? vikalpake sAth ekatvabuddhi khaDI hai. isaliye hote hai.n. ... (AtmAkA) svarUp to chaitanya to j~nAyak svabhAv-jAnanekA svabhAv hai, jAnanevAlA hai. ananta-ananta shaktio.nse bharA huA. jis shaktikA kahI.n a.nt nahI.n hai, aisI shaktikA nAsh nahI.n hotA. ananta guNo.nse bharapUr adabhut tattva hai. jo j~nAnasvabhAv ananta-ananta hai, jisakA a.nt nahI.n AtA. pUrNa lokAlokako jAne to bhI vah to ananta-anantatAse bharA huA ananta lokAlok ho to jAne, aisI usakI j~nAnashakti hai.

vaisI usakI Anandashakti hai. ananta kAl tak pariNamatA rahe to bhI usakA Ananda kam nahI.n hotA. aisI ananta-ananta shaktio.nse bharA huA AtmA hai. aise ananta guN- ananta shaktio.nse bharA aisA chaitanyatattva hai. usakI mahimA aur usakI adabhutatA koI alag prakArakI hai. usakI mahimA Aye, usakI ruchi ho to jIvaname.n vah kartavya hai. bAkI ye bAharakA to sab paradravya hai. yah sharIr to paradravya hai, vibhAv svabhAv AtmAkA nahI.n hai. vah to puruShArthakI mandatAke kAraN vah vibhAvame.n juDatA rahatA hai aur bhrAntise yah sab merA hai, aisA mAnatA hai. usake sAth ekatvabuddhi kar rahA hai.

chaitanya svabhAvame.n svaya.n svaya.nme.n ekatvabuddhi kare aur parase vibhakta-usakA bhedaj~nAn kare aur mai.n chaitanyatattva j~nAyak hU.N, is tarah svaya.nme.n ekatvabuddhi karake parase kShaN-kShaName.n bhedaj~nAn kare vahI jIvanakA kartavya hai. bhedaj~nAn karake j~nAyakakA bAra.nbAr-bAra.nbAr usIkA prayatna karake, usIkA abhyAs karake vah pragaT karane jaisA hai.

vikalpakI jAl AkulatArUp hai. ye vibhAv svabhAv AkulatArUp hai, sukh svarUp nahI.n hai. sukhakA dhAm, AnandakA dhAm to AtmA hai. isaliye bAra.nbAr vah kaise pragaT ho? vikalpa TUTakar nirvikalpa dashA, svAnubhUti kaise pragaT ho? vah pragaT karane jaisA hai. vahI jIvanakA kartavya hai. usake liye tattva vichAr, svAdhyAy, dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, chaitanyakI mahimA Adi sab is j~nAyakatattvako pragaT karaneke liye karanA hai.

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satyArtha vah hai. vikalpa TUTakar svAnubhUti ho aur svAnubhUtikA a.nsh pragaT ho vahI muktikA mArga hai. svAnubhUtikI dashA baDhate-baDhate pUrNatA prApta hotI hai. ataH vahI jIvanakA kartavya hai. dravya par dR^iShTi karake vahI karane jaisA hai.

mumukShuH- dravya par dR^iShTi, aisA Apane kahA, arthAt dravyakI jo anupam mahimA Apane batAyI, aisA mai.n hU.N, aisA nirNay karake us or svaya.nkA lakShya karanA, use dR^iShTi kahate hai.n? yA vastu jaisI hai vaisI jAnakar shraddhA karanI, use dR^iShTi kahate hai.n?

samAdhAnaH- pratham use pahachAn lenA ki chaitanyatattva yah hai, aisA mahimAva.nt hai. aise pahachAnakar us par dR^iShTi karanI. us dR^iShTime.n koI bhed nahI.n paDatA. apanA astitva grahaN karatA hai ki yah chaitanya hai so mai.n hU.N. use svabhAvame.nse grahaN kare. ek buddhise nirNay kare vah alag bAt hai. bAkI a.ntar dR^iShTi karake use barAbar pahachAne, us par dR^iShTi kare. usakI dR^iShTi kaho yA pratIt kaho, jo bhI kaho sab ek hai. dR^iShTi, pratIta. usake sAth j~nAn yathArtha (hotA hai ki), yah chaitanya mai.n hU.N. usake sAth pariNati bhI us or (jAtI hai ki) vah kShaN-kShaName.n bhedaj~nAn kare. vah bhedaj~nAn pahalese nahI.n hotA hai, usakA abhyAs kare to hotA hai.

pratham to yathArtha svAnubhUtike bAd jo yathArtha j~nAyakakI dhArA pragaT ho, vah alag hotI hai. pahale to vah mAtra abhyAs karatA hai ki mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, yah mai.n nahI.n. aisA abhyAs (karatA hai). yathArtha j~nAyakakI dhArA aur kartAbuddhi TUTakar jo j~nAtAdhArA pragaT ho vah svAnubhUti honeke bAd yathArtharUpase hotI hai, sahajarUpase hotI hai. usake pahale to vah abhyAs kare, parapadArthakI kartAbuddhi ChoDe ki mai.n parapadArthakA kar nahI.n sakatA, mai.n chaitanya j~nAyak-j~nAtA hU.N. aise pahale to abhyAs kare. bAdame.n yathArtha hotA hai aur sahajarUpase bAdame.n hotA hai.

mumukShuH- prayatnapUrvak svaya.n parapadArthase bhinna hai, mai.n j~nAn aur Ananda hU.N. aise nirNay karake svarUpakI or jhukatA hai, vikalpake dvArA aur jab usakA us or jor baDh jAy, tab vikalpa TUTatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, jor baDhe to hI. to hI vikalpa TUTatA hai. mAtra manda-manda ho usame.n nahI.n TUTate. yathArthapane usakA jor, dravyadR^iShTikA jor baDhe to vikalpa TUTe.

mumukShuH- aur Apake jo vachan nikale hai.n, un par gurudevane sab spaShTIkaraN kiyA hai aur Apake mukhase vANI sunakar bhI mujhe bahut Ananda huA hai. aur vAstavame.n ... bahut sa.ntoSh hotA hai ki mahAbhAgyashAlI hai.n ki bhagavatI mAtA Ap pratyakSha hamAre sAmane maujUd ho.n, Ap darshan dete ho.n. gurudevane ApakI pahachAn nahI.n karavAyI hotI to khyAlame.n bhI nahI.n AtA, Apako pahachAn nahI.n sakate.

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samAdhAnaH- satyArtha yahI hai. muktikA mArga gurudevane yahI darshAyA hai. a.ntarame.n vah koI alag tattva hai, sukhakA dhAm vah hai, j~nAnakA dhAm vah hai, AnandakA dhAm vah hai, koI adabhut tattva hai. usakI mahimA lAkar vahI karane jaisA hai.

mumukShuH- adhik mahimA kaise Aye?

samAdhAnaH- vah svaya.n kare to hotA hai. parapadArthakI mahimA TUT jAy aur svabhAvakI mahimA Aye ki vAstavame.n svabhAv koI alag chIj hai. j~nAyak-j~nAnasvabhav koI alag hI hai, chaitanya koI alag hI hai aur yah sab tuchCha hai. vibhAv svabhAv AdaraNIy nahI.n hai. vah koI AtmAko sukharUp nahI.n hai, AkulatArUp hai, viparItarUp hai, apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai. yah svabhAv so merA nahI.n hai, merA svabhAv koI alag hI hai. aisA nirNay ho to usakI mahimA Aye. (chaitanyakI) ruchi ho to mahimA bhI usIme.n samAviShTa hai. ruchike sAth mahimA samAviShTa hai.

mumukShuH- ruchi aur mahimA...?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, dono.n ek hI hai. ruchi, mahimA, usakI lagana. parapadArthakI tuchChatA bhAsit ho to apanI apUrvatA bhAsit ho.

mumukShuH- bAra.nbar yah bAt sunane par bhI us or muDaneke liye jIv adhik puruShArtha kyo.n nahI.n kar sakatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- anAdise abhyAs parapadArthakI or hai, ruchi usame.n juDI hai. jitanI tIvra ruchi apanI or chAhiye utanI karatA nahI.n hai, isaliye puruShArtha nahI.n hotA hai. parapadArthakI or, vibhAvakI or aTak rahA hai. vibhAvame.n usakA puruShArtha juD rahA hai. isaliye apanI or mandatA rahatI hai. apanI orakI ugratA ho ki yah kuCh nahI.n chAhiye, mujhe ek AtmA hI chAhiye, aisI ugratA ho to puruShArtha apanI or muDe.

mumukShuH- apane doShase-apanI bhUlase hI duHkhI hotA hai.

samAdhAnaH- apanI bhUlase svaya.n duHkhI hotA hai. nirmal svabhAv AtmA hai. jaise pAnI nirmal hai, vaisA svaya.n sphaTik jaisA nirmal hai. parantu bhrAntike kAraN mai.n malin ho rahA hU.N, aisI use bhrAnti ho gayI hai. usakI paryAyame.n mAtra use ashuddhatA hotI hai. svaya.n palaTe to ho sake aisA hai. parantu svaya.nkI mandatAke kAraN aTak rahA hai.

mumukShuH- nij shuddha svarUpakA jab andarase svIkAr ho, tab paryAyame.n shuddhatA ho.

samAdhAnaH- tab hotI hai. shuddhAtmAko pahachAne, barAbar usakI pratIt ho, us or pariNati ho to shuddha pariNati ho. ashuddha pariNati gauN ho. pUrNatA to bAdame.n hotI hai, parantu pahale a.nsh pragaT hotA hai.

mumukShuH- atIndriy AnandakA anubhav hai vah jagatakI koI vastuke sAth darshA

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sakate hai.n yA samajh sakate hai.n?

samAdhAnaH- koI dR^iShTAntase samajhAyI nahI.n jAtI. kyo.nki vah atIndriy hai. usame.n indriyo.nkA Ashray nahI.n hai. svaya.n apane Ashrayase pragaT hotI hai. jo sukhakA dhAm hai, svataHsiddha vastu hai usame.nse Ananda pragaT hotA hai. use jagatakI koI vastuke sAth mel nahI.n hai. kyo.nki ye padArtha jaD hai.n, viparIt svabhAv hai, vibhAvabhAv bhI viparIt hai. isaliye usakA kisIke sAth mel nahI.n hai. indrakA indrAsan, devalok hai vah sab bhI vibhAvasvabhAv hai, vibhAvakA phal hai. phir puNyake jitane bhI prakAr hai.n, unhe.n shuddhAtmAke sAth mel nahI.n hai. ataH usakI koI upamA nahI.n hai. jaise viSh aur amR^it bilakUl bhinna hai.n, vaise yah bhinna hI hai.

... AtmAkI mahimA aur svAdhyAy Adi karane jaisA hai. ananta kAlame.n jIvane samyagdarshan prApta nahI.n kiyA hai, aisA shAstrame.n AtA hai. bAkI sab prApta ho gayA hai. ek jinavar svAmI aur samyagdarshan prApta nahI.n kiyA hai. parantu jinavar svAmI mile hai.n, lekin svaya.nne pahachAnA nahI.n hai. isaliye ve bhI nahI.n mile hai.n, aisA kahaneme.n AtA hai. aur samyagdarshan koI apUrva vastu hai, use prApta nahI.n kI. bAkI sab jagatame.n prApta ho gayA hai. isaliye yah ek apUrva hai. isaliye us apUrvatAkA puruShArtha karanA vahI jIvanakA kartavya hai.

mumukShuH- vAstavame.n hitakI bAt hai, vaisA karane jaisA hai.

samAdhAnaH- vistAr kar-karake mArgako ekadam spaShTa kar diyA hai. kisIkI kahI.n bhUl na rahe, itanA mArga spaShTa kiyA hai. puruShArtha karanA apane hAthame.n hai. apane puruShArthakI mandatAse svaya.n rukA hai.

mumukShuH- bahut spaShTIkaraN huA, is kAlame.n gurudev dvArA bahut spaShTIkaraN huA. aisA yog milane par bhI samyagdarshanakI prApti nahI.n huyI aur yahA.Nse deh ChUT gayA to jIvakA kahI.n bhI gUm jAnA hogA, yah barAbar hai?

samAdhAnaH- samyagdarshanakI prApti nahI.n huyI, parantu yadi usakA abhyAs svaya.n (karatA ho), usakI bhAvanA gaharI ho aur a.ntarakI gaharAIse svaya.nko yathArtha lagan lagI ho to kahI.n bhI jAy to bhI use puruShArtha ho sakatA hai. aisA avakAsh rahatA hai. parantu yadi gahare sa.nskAr na ho to vah bhUl jAtA hai. bAkI usake sa.nskAr gahare ho, tIvra bhAvanA ho ki mujhe AtmA hI chAhiye, aisI bhAvanA ho to vah kahI.n bhI jAy vahA.N pragaT honekA, puruShArthakA avakAsh rahatA hai.

mumukShuH- gahare sa.nskAr kise kahate hai.n? gahare sa.nskAr arthAt..?

samAdhAnaH- mujhe j~nAyak AtmA chAhiye aur kuCh nahI.n chAhiye. aisI tIvra bhAvanA

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andar rahatI ho ki ek AtmA sukhakA dhAm, AnandakA dhAm, ek j~nAyak AtmA (hI chAhiye). vikalpakI jAl kuCh nahI.n chAhiye. ek chaitanya nirvikalpa tattva jo mahimAse bharA hai, vahI chAhiye, dUsarA kuCh nahI.n chAhiye. aisI gaharI ruchi yadi andarame.n ho aur usake binA chain nahI.n paDatA ho, vah kahI.n bhI sphUrit hue binA nahI.n rahate. use bAhya sAdhan prApta ho jAte hai.n aur usakA puruShArtha bhI jAgR^it ho jAtA hai. aise sa.nskAr andarame.n ho to.

mumukShuH- aise sa.nskAr lekar jIv kadAchit anya gatime.n jAy to aise nimitta prApta ho sakate hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- prApta ho jAte haiai.n. apanI bhAvanA anusAr jagat taiyAr hI hotA hai. bhAvanA gaharI na ho vah alag bAt hai. apanI bhAvanA gaharI ho to jagat taiyArI hI hotA hai.

mumukShuH- apane upAdAnakI taiyArI ho to nimitta kahI.nse bhI hAjir ho jAtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- nimitta hAjir ho jAtA hai. aisA nimitta-naimittik sambandha hai.