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samAdhAnaH- ... andar AtmAko pahichAne, AtmAkI or jAy, AtmAkI ruchi kare, AtmAkI mahimA (kare). sachchI samajh kare ki mai.n kaun hU.N? aisI use a.ntarase lagan laganI chAhiye. kahI.n chain na paDe, vibhAvame.n kahI.n chain na paDe, a.ntar dR^iShTi honI chAhiye. phir use bAharakI ruchi to sahaj hI Utar jAtI hai. use bAharakA koI ras nahI.n rahatA. a.ntarame.nse ChUT jAy, isaliye bAhar ekadam tIvratAse kahI.n tanmay nahI.n hotA. vah to niras ho jAtA hai. bAharakI amuk kriyAe.N honI chAhiye aisA nahI.n hotA. niras ho jAtA hai. sahaj-sahaj use aisI virakti A jAtI hai. use andarase ras Utar jAtA hai. phir use vichAr, vA.nchan, svAdhyAy AtA hai. a.ntar AtmAko kaise pahichAnU.N, usakI sachchI samajh, usake vichAr, vA.nchan hotA hai. andar khoj (chalatI hai ki) AtmA kaise pahachAname.n Aye? AtmA kyA hai? ye vibhAv kyA hai? usakA lakShaN pahichAnaneke liye sab prayatna chalatA hai.

usake liye itanI kriyA honI chAhiye yA itanA honA hI chAhiye, aisA niyam nahI.n hotA. use ras nahI.n AtA, isaliye sahaj hI ChUT jAtA hai. bAhar jo tIvra rAgake prasa.ng aur sab kriyAe.N ChUT jAtI hai, parantu usakA niyam nahI.n hotA ki itanI kriyA honI hI chAhiye, aisA niyam nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- dravya, bhAvakA kAraN banatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- dravya bhAvakA kAraN... bhAv jahA.N yathArtha hote hai.n, vahA.N usake yogya aisA hotA hai. dravya lAbh karatA hai aisA nahI.n hai, bhAv usakA yathArtha ho use aisA nimitta banatA hai. jahA.N sachchI ruchi jAgR^it ho, vahA.N sachche dev-guru-shAstrako vah grahaN karatA hai. sachchI ruchi jAgR^it hotI hai isaliye use amuk jAtake kaShAy manda ho jAte hai.n. usake kaShAy tIvra nahI.n hote. a.ntarame.n jAy isaliye use kaShAyakA ras kam ho jAtA hai. amuk honA chAhiye aisA nahI.n, lekin use kam ho hI jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- svAbhAvik hai.

samAdhAnaH- svAbhAvik ho jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- chaTapaTI lage use ..

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samAdhAnaH- chaTapaTI lage isaliye use kaShAy kam ho jAte hai.n.

mumukShuH- chaTapaTI lagAneke liye bhI prayatna to karanA paDatA hai na?

samAdhAnaH- chaTapaTI lagAneke liye prayatna karanA paDatA hai. prayatna karanA chAhiye. a.ntarame.n jAnekA prayatna to karanA chAhiye. kaShAy to use sahaj hI kam ho jAte hai.n.

mumukShuH- sahaj hI kam ho jAte hai.n? prayatna jyAdA nahI.n karanA paDe.

samAdhAnaH- use ras hI nahI.n rahatA. jise AtmAkI or jAnekA vairAgya A jAy, use ye sab ruchi, bAharakI ruchi kam ho jAtI hai. ras kam ho jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- .. use dR^iDhatA rahA kare ki mai.n to, chAhe jo bhI upayog ho, koI bhI avasthA ho, mai.n to j~nAyak hI hU.N.

samAdhAnaH- sarva pratham to buddhipUrvak nirNay hotA hai. lekin use nirNay aisA hI hotA hai ki yah yathArtha nirNay hai aur isI prakArase Age jAyA jAtA hai. aisI use a.ntarame.nse shraddhA ho jAtI hai. yah j~nAyak hai aur is j~nAyakako grahaN karanese aur usame.n tIvratA karanese, usakI ugratA karanese avashya isame.nse Age baDhA jAtA hai. aisA use nirNay A jAtA hai. usakA vah nirNay yathArtha hotA hai. j~nAyakake mUlame.nse hI use svabhAv grahaN hokar nirNay hotA hai ki yahI j~nAyak hai aur ye sab par hai, yah vibhAv hai, yah svabhAv hai. aur is svabhAvako grahaN karanese a.ntarame.nse shAnti pragaT ho, a.ntarame.nse Ananda AtA hai, aisA use yathArtha nirNay joradAr hotA hai. aur jahA.N usakA puruShArtha uThatA nahI.n hai, vah jAnatA hai ki merA puruShArtha nahI.n hai. lekin is j~nAyakako grahaN karanese, j~nAtAdhArAko ugra karanese avashya isame.nse svAnubhUti pragaT hotI hai. aisA use joradAr nirNay hotA hai.

aur usake bAd bhI, svAnubhUtike bAd bhI use bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA chalatI hai. pahale to use nirNay hotA hai, parantu bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA usakI sahaj nahI.n hotI hai. j~nAyak grahaN ho aur phir ChUT jAy, use aisI puruShArthakI tIvratA-mandatA hotI rahatI hai. parantu usakA nirNay joradAr hotA hai ki aisA puruShArtha karanese, is j~nAyakakI ugratA karanese avashya isI mArgase Age baDhA jAtA hai. utanA joradAr nirNay hotA hai. phir to usakI j~nAyakakI dhArA joradAr rahatI hai. kShaN-kShaName.n kahI.n bhI upayog jAy, upayog bAhar jAy, anek jAtake use vibhAvake vikalpa Aye to bhI use j~nAyakakI dhArA to j~nAyak use bhinna hI, pratikShaN bhinna hI rahatA hai. bAharame.n koI bhI kArya hotA ho, a.ntarame.n koI bhI vikalpa Ate ho to bhI use j~nAyak usase nyArA, j~nAyakakI dhArAkI pariNati bhinna hI rahatI hai. khAte-pIte, chalate-phirate koI, kahI.n bhI sote-jAgate use bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA (chalatI hai). ekatva hotA hI nahI.n, aisI sahaj dhArA hotI hai. aur sahaj dhArAkI

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ugratA honese use svAnubhUti bhI aise hI hotI hai. phikShar to sahaj dhArA hI rahatI hai.

pahale to use mAtra nirNay hotA hai. usakI sahaj dhArA nahI.n hotI. lekin nirNay hotA hai ki is j~nAyakako grahaN karanese, isakI ugratA karanese, bhedaj~nAn karanese avashya svAnubhUti hotI hai. bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA use TikatI hai, kyo.nki vah sahaj nahI.n hai isaliye. usakI ugratA karate-karate avashya svAnubhUti hogI, aisA use nirNay hotA hai. phir to usakI sahaj dhArA (ho jAtI hai). vah ekatva hotA hI nahI.n. upayog bAhar jAy to bhI usakI pariNati to nyArI hI rahatI hai. pariNati bhinna hI rahatI hai.

mumukShuH- use koI bhI udayabhAv Aye to bhI sha.nkA nahI.n hotI ki merA nirNay badal gayA...?

uttaraH- use sha.nkA hotI hI nahI.n. usakI sahaj dhArA bhinna hI rahatI hai. sha.nkA hI nahI.n paDatI. jis kShaN vikalpa Aye usI kShaN use j~nAyakakI dhArA rahatI hai. jis kShaN.. phir use yAd nahI.n karanA paDatA. jab vah vikalpa ho, usI vakta j~nAyakakI dhArA (hotI hai). usI kShaN bhinna hotA hai. apanA astitva jo j~nAyakarUpase grahaN huA, vah j~nAyakakI pariNati joradAr (hotI hI hai). usake sAth ekamek-tanmay hotA hI nahI.n, nyArA hI rahatA hai. vikalpa Aye to nyArA rahakar hI AtA hai. koI bhI Ave. phir to yAd bhI nahI.n karanA paDatA, sahaj (hotA hai). sahaj apanA astitva j~nAyakakI pariNatipUrvak vah vikalpa hotA hai. vah bhinna rahatA hai. use sha.nkA nahI.n paDatI.

mumukShuH- sharIrame.n rog Ave, pramAd ho jAy, usake sAth use aisA nahI.n ho jAtA ki mere nirNayame.n kuCh pheraphAr ho gayA?

samAdhAnaH- nahI.n, use bilakUl sha.nkA nahI.n paDatI.

mumukShuH- kyo.nki aisA to bane ki sharIrame.n rog Ave to us or lakShya jAy, pramAd bhI ho jAya.

samAdhAnaH- to bhI use j~nAyakakI dhArA, amuk jAtakA jo puruShArtha sahaj hai, vah use manda hotA hI nahI.n. usakI sthiratAme.n use visheSh kam ho, bAkI j~nAyakakI dhArA, vah sahaj dhArA rahatI hI hai.

mumukShuH- vichAr kare to hI rahe aisA kuCh nahI.n?

samAdhAnaH- vichAr kare to rahe aisA nahI.n, sahajapane rahatI hai.

mumukShuH- nirNayavAlekI bhI vah sthiti hotI hai?

samAdhAnaH- pratham bhUmikAvAleko aisI sahaj dhArA nahI.n hotI. use nirNay hotA hai. use yAd bhI karanA paDe. use nirNay hai. dhArA yA amuk a.nshame.n use shAntikA vedan ho, pahale use aisI sahaj dhArA nahI.n hotI. use yAd karanA paDatA hai. vaisA

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sahaj nahI.n hotA. bAr-bAr usakA abhyAs karatA hai. ... use dR^iDhatA hotI hai, pahale.

ekatvabuddhi jo anAdikI hai vah jaise sahaj hai, vaise use bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA sahaj rahatI hai. us jAtakA puruShArtha use sahaj ho gayA hai.

mumukShuH- sahaj hai, phir bhI puruShArtha to hai.

samAdhAnaH- puruShArtha hai. sahaj hone par bhI puruShArtha hai. isaliye use bAr-bAr vichAr karake TikAnA nahI.n paDatA isaliye vah sahaj hai. vikalpa karake yA vichAr karake yA smaraName.n lekar aise use TikAnA nahI.n paDatA. isaliye sahaj hai. parantu pariNatikI dhArA hai vah use puruShArthapUrvak hai.

mumukShuH- .... svakI apekShArUp pariNatime.n puruShArtha rahA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, puruShArtha rahA hai. apanI orakA jo Ashray hai usame.n puruShArtha rahA hai.

mumukShuH- badalatA nahI.n. dhAraNAj~nAn parya.nt pahu.NchatA hai, samajhame.n bhI biThAtA hai, parantu pariNati nahI.n badalatA. pariNati badalatA nahI.n hai arthAt parakA lakShya..

samAdhAnaH- pariNati jo ekatvakI pariNati ban gayI hai, us pariNatiko bhinna nahI.n karatA hai. nirNay ho gayA ki mai.n bhinna hI hU.N, mai.n j~nAyak hU.N. lekin vah j~nAyak jo kShaN-kShaName.n vikalpo.nke sAth ekatvabuddhi karake jo vartatA hai, ekatva hokar pariNaman kar rahA hai, us ekatvatAko toDatA nahI.n. isaliye pariNati badalatA nahI.n hai. vah ekatvatA toDanekA prayAs kare to prayAs use ho sakatA hai. abhyAsarUp ho sakatA hai. parantu sahaj honeme.n to use svAnubhUti ho to use adhik sahaj hotA hai. pahale vah ekatvatA toDanekA abhyAs kar sakatA hai.

... pariNati ho rahI hai, phir use vichAr karanA paDatA hai ki yah ekatva ho rahA hai, mai.n bhinna hU.N, aisA vichAr karanA paDatA hai, prayAs karanA paDatA hai. sahaj nahI.n hai na isaliye. vichArapUrvakakA abhyAs (hotA hai). ... vah sahaj kAm karatA hai. upayog bAhar jAy to bhI pariNati jo sahaj hotI hai vah kArya karatI rahatI hai.

mumukShuH- puuruShArtha to pratikShaN chalatA rahatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- chalatA hI rahatA hai, pratikShaNa. jis kShaN vikalpa Aye usI kShaN puruShArtha chAlU hI hai.

mumukShuH- a.ntar svabhAvako pakaDanekA koI puruShArtha?

samAdhAnaH- jo sahaj samyagdarshanake bAdakA hai, vah to use sahaj j~nAyak grahaN hI ho gayA hai. j~nAyakarUp hI mai.n hU.N, j~nAyakarUp hI hU.N. aisI usakI pariNati puruShArthapUrvak vartatI hI hai. aur pahale jo hai vah j~nAyakako grahaN karanekA prayatna hai. usane buddhime.n

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nakkI kiyA parantu j~nAyak abhI pariNatirUpase bhinna nahI.n huA, tab tak j~nAyakako grahaN karaneke liye usakA prayatna chAlU rahatA hai.

... is tarah dR^iShTi palaTe to pahichAne. ye to dR^iShTi bAhar pudagalame.n hai, isaliye bAharakA pahichAnatA hai. a.ntar dR^iShTi kare to pahichAne. mai.n jAnanevAlA j~nAyak hU.N, shAshvat hU.N, anAdiananta hU.N, aise svaya.n vichAr kare to pahachAn sake. dR^iShTi badale to pahachAn sake. usakI jarUrat mahasUs ho, us or puruShArtha kare to pahachAn sake. usake lakShaNase pahichAn sakatA hai. j~nAn lakShaN, j~nAyak lakShaN hai. ye sab lakShaN pudagalakA hai vah jaD hai, bAharakA hai. sab vibhAv hai.

mumukShuH- j~nAnalakShaN to paryAyame.n hai aur pahichAnanA svabhAvako hai.

samAdhAnaH- paryAyame.n hai lekin vah paryAy a.ntarame.n mai.n shAshvat kaun hU.N, aise pahachAn sakatA hai. bhale paryAy ho to bhI dR^iShTi dravyakI or kar sakate hai.n. ye jo kShaNik j~nAnalakShaN hai usame.n shAshvat mai.n jAnanevAlA hU.N. aise dR^iShTiko svaya.n shAshvat par pahichAnakar sthir kar sakate hai.n. ye jo j~nAnakI paryAy badalatI rahatI hai, vah badalatI hai so mai.n nahI.n, parantu jo shAshvat j~nAyak hai, ek samAn rahatA hai, vah mai.n j~nAyak jAnanevAlA hU.N. badalatA rahe, ekake bAd ek j~neyako jAne, us j~neyako jAne isaliye mai.n nahI.n, parantu mai.n svaya.nsiddha j~nAyak hU.N. j~neyako jAnanevAlA j~nAyak mai.n svataHsiddha j~nAn-jAnanevAlA hI hU.N. ekake bAd ek paryAy badale kShaN-kShaName.n, vah to badalatI rahatI hai. jo badalatA hai vah merA shAshvat lakShaN nahI.n hai. mai.n shAshvat j~nAyak hU.N, aise pahichAn sakatA hai. ... to lInatA ho, to usame.n sthiratA ho.

mumukShuH- jarUrat par sab AdhAr hai?

samAdhAnaH- jarUrat lage, usakI lagan lage, jarUrat lage... bAharakA sab jarUratavAlA lage, use rasayukta lagatA hai. parantu a.ntarakI jarUrat, usIme.n sarvasva hai. vahI sukharUp hai, vahI AnandarUp hai, vahI merA svabhAv hai. aise jarUrat lage to puruShArtha us or muDe. aisI a.ntarame.nse lagan laganI chAhiye. jarUrat lage to us or prayatna-puruShArtha karatA rahe, usake pIChe lagatA hai. ye to use itanI jarUrat hI nahI.n lagatI hai, a.ntarame.n utanI lagan nahI.n lagatI hai. lagan lage to usake pIChe prayAs karatA hI rahe. bAra.nbAr usakA prayAs karatA rahe.

mumukShuH- 17-18 gAthAme.n AtA hai ki pratyek jIvako anubhUtisvarUp bhagavAn AtmA anubhavame.n AtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- vah anubhUti yAnI vAstavik anubhUti jo andar AnandakA vedan, aisA nahI.n kahanA chAhate hai.n. aisA kahate ho to phir kahate hai.n, tujhe usakI shraddhA nahI.n

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hai, nahI.n jAnA usakA shraddhAn gadheke si.ng barAbar hai. aisA sab kahate hai.n. nahI.n jAnA usakA shraddhAna. to gadheke si.ngake barAbar Adi kahate hai.n, arthAt vAstavik anubhUti vahA.N nahI.n kahate hai.n.

vahA.N to kahate hai.n, terA svabhAv us rUp pariNamatA hai. jo svabhAv terA j~nAyakarUp hai jAnanevAlA, us rUp tU anAdise ho rahA hai. anubhavakA artha vahA.N usakA anusaraN karake tU ho rahA hai, us rUpa. aisA kahanA chAhate hai.n. anubhUti arthAt tU us rUp ho (rahA hai), terA svabhAv us rUp pariNamatA hai, tere svabhAvarUp tU anAdise ho rahA hai. chetan chetanarUp pariNamatA hai. use tU pahichAn le.

mumukShuH- prashna yah hotA hai ki anubhUtisvarUp bhagavAn AtmA kahA, vah kisakA visheShaN kahA?

samAdhAnaH- visheShaN bhale svaya.nkA chaitanyakA hai.

mumukShuH- parantu jab aisA anubhUtisvarUp bhagavAn AtmA arthAt j~nAyakabhAv?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, j~nAyakabhAva.

mumukShuH- AbAlagopAl sabhIko sadAkAl anubhavame.n A rahA hai yAnI svabhAv to j~nAt ho rahA hai. upayogAtmakakA savAl nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- us rUp pariNati ho rahI hai. pAriNAmikabhAvarUp vah pariNamatA hai. AtmA, j~nAyak svaya.n.

mumukShuH- parantu us AnandakI anubhUtikI bAt nahI.n hai. aise nahI.n lenA chAhiye.

samAdhAnaH- AnandakI anubhUti, vedanakI anubhUti nahI.n hai. nahI.n to phir aisA kyo.n AyA ki nahI.n jAnA hai usakA shraddhA gadheke si.ng barAbar hai. arthAt AchAryako dUsarA kahanekI apekShA hai. anubhUti kahakar tU j~nAyakarUp bhagavAn anubhavame.n A rahA hai. arthAt us svarUp tU sadAke liye shAshvat hai. terA nAsh nahI.n huA hai. tU tere svabhAvako TikA rahA hai, j~nAyakarUpase. ataH tU hai use pahichAn, aisA kahanA hai. us svarUp hI tU hai.

mumukShuH- AtmAko usakA pratibhAs ho rahA aisA kah sakate hai.n?

samAdhAnaH- pratibhAs yAnI tU us rUp hI, j~nAyak j~nAyakarUpase pariNaman kar rahA hai. j~nAyakakI j~nAyakatA ChUT nahI.n gayI hai, chetanakI chetanatA ChUT nahI.n gayI hai. j~nAyakarUp tU bhale vibhAvame.n gayA to bhI terI chetanatA jyo.nkI tyo.n pariNamatI hai. sadAkAl pariNamatI hai. us chetanatAko tU andarase pahichAn le, aisA kahate hai.n. gurudevakI Tepame.n abhI AyA thA, anubhUti arthAt us rUp honA, us svarUparUp pariNamanA.

mumukShuH- honA.

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samAdhAnaH- hA.N, honA. us rUp honA.

mumukShuH- svabhAv.. svabhAva. ... agurulaghuguNake kAraN jo anekapanAkI ... anubhUti aur vah par nimittake kAraN A paDatI Apatti. usame.n A paDI hai, isame.n anubhUt lI. itanA pharka hai. usame.n AyA thA. Aj anubhUti AyA thA, is arthame.n. mai.n yahA.N AyA us dina. Aj hI yah AyA-anubhUti.

mumukShuH- do din pahale mAtAjIko 17-18 gAthAkA prashna pUChA thA. do-chAr din pahale.

mumukShuH- mujhe mAlUm nahI.n thA.

samAdhAnaH- us rUp vah ho rahA hai, j~nAyak j~nAyakarUp hI ho rahA hai. vah ho rahA hai lekin use pragaTarUpase khyAl nahI.n hai. svaya.n us rUp ho rahA hai. anubhUtisvarUp arthAt j~nAyak j~nAyakarUp, lekin vah mAlUm nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- mAlUm nahI.n hai arthAt upayogAtmak nahI.n karatA hai aisA?

samAdhAnaH- usakA upayog-pragaT nahI.n karatA hai. upayogAtmak...

mumukShuH- upayogame.n bhI nahI.n hai aur labdhame.n nahI.n hai. .... to upayogAtmak kahe.n. jAnatA hI nahI.n.

mumukShuH- nahI.n, nahI.n aisA kahanA hai ki Chadmastha jIv hai isaliye do jagah to upayog rahatA nahI.n. yAnI upayogAtmak...

mumukShuH- ek jagah upayog aur bAkI sab labdhame.n. mumukShuH- vah to ek bAr anubhav honeke bAdakA barAbar hai. mumukShuH- isaliye yahA.N nahI.n hai. upayogAtmakakA koI matalab nahI.n hai. kisI bhI prakArase jAnatA hI nahI.n. upayogAtmak nahI.n hai, to koI apekShAse jAnatA hai, aisA hotA hai. jAnatA hI nahI.n.

mumukShuH- vah svIkArya nahI.n hai. vah hame.n svIkArya nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- AchAryadev kahate hai.n ki tU anubhUtisvarUp ho rahA hai. lekin tujhe usakA shraddhAn nahI.n hai. aur nahI.n jAne huekA shraddhAn gadheke si.ngake barAbar hai. isaliye tU jAnatA bhI nahI.n, shraddhAn nahI.n hai, AcharaN nahI.n hai. parantu AchAryadev use kahate hai.n, nahI.n hai usakA artha terA nAsh nahI.n huA hai. tU jaD nahI.n ho gayA hai. tU svaya.n hai anubhUtisvarUp AtmA, bAlagopAl sabako anubhUtirUp ho rahA hai. tU pahichAn le. tU svaya.n hI hai. tU us rUp hI hai, j~nAyak hI hai, use tU jAn le. tU jAn le, terA nAsh nahI.n ho gayA hai, tU hai usako jAn le, aisA kahate hai.n. tU us rUp anubhUti svarUp bhagavAn AtmA AbAlagopAl sadA shAshvat hai. j~nAyak j~nAyakarUp hI hai, tU use

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pahichAn le. pahichanA le.

mumukShuH- AbAlagopAl sabako us rUp ho hI rahA hai. kaise ho rahA hai, mAlUm nahI.n. utpAd-vyay-dhruvakI ekatAsvarUp anubhUti, dUsarI gAthA. sAt bola.

samAdhAnaH- anubhUtisvarUp yAnI j~nAyakarUp hai. vedan pragaT nahI.n hai. use apane svabhAvakA vedan nahI.n hai. lekin jaD ho to use anubhUtisvarUp nahI.n kahate. to bhI usame.n jaDakI anubhUti kahA hai. lekin tU j~nAyakarUp hI ho. AbAlagopAlako j~nAyakarUp anubhUtirUp j~nAyak hai. j~nAyak hI hai, lekin tU kahA.N khojatA hai? tU svaya.n hI hai. tU usakI shraddhA kar, use jAna. tU svaya.n hI hai. tU svaya.n hI hai aur dUsarI-dUsarI jagah khojane jA rahA hai. dUsarI jagah khojatA rahatA hai. tU hI hai. terI or dR^iShTi kara.

mumukShuH- bAhar vyartha mahenat karatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- bAhar vyartha mahenat karatA hai.

mumukShuH- sadA kAl svaya.n hI anubhavame.n AtA hone par bhI, usakA artha Apane aisA liyA ki anubhavame.n AtA hone par bhI...

samAdhAnaH- shraddhA nahI.n hai, AcharaN nahI.n hai, kuCh nahI.n hai to bhI tU hai. bhagavAn AtmA tU jyAe.nkA tyo.n hai. AbAlagopAl sabako.