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mumukShuH- ... visheSh spaShTIkaraN karate hue dUsarI TIkA likhI. yah TIkA pUrNa honekA bAd dUsarI TIkA likhI. usame.n aisA hai ki... 17-18 gAthAkI TIkA pUrI karaneke bAd phirase dUsarI...

samAdhAnaH- jAnatA nahI.n hai. j~nAyak dravyarUp svabhAvase hone par bhI pragaT jAnatA nahI.n hai. shaktime.n jAnatA hone par bhI jAnatA nahI.n hai. sevan karatA hone par bhI, vah shakti eva.n dravyarUpase. hone par bhI, usakA astitva honeke bAvajUd pragaTarUpase sevatA nahI.n. pragaTapane ArAdhatA nahI.n.

mumukShuH- sAmarthya hone par bhI paryAy ... jAnatA nahI.n.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, nahI.n jAnatA hai.

mumukShuH- hone par bhI jAnatA nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- j~nAyak hone par bhI usakI upAsanA karanekA upadesh kyo.n deneme.n AtA hai? vah jo peregrAph hai na usakA...

samAdhAnaH- shaktime.n dravyarUpase tU us rUp hai, jAnatA hone par bhI jAnatA nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- ... jAnatA hI nahI.n hai. ... ho rahA hai to phir kyo.n upAsanA? ki sevan hI nahI.n kiyA. aisA uttar diyA.

samAdhAnaH- AchAryadev anubhUtisvarUp kahate hai.n, tU anubhavame.n A rahA hai, aisA kahanA chAhate hai.n. parantu puruShArtha karake pragaT anubhUti ho tab tujhe sa.ntoSh hogA. isaliye dravyarUp tU hai, aisA AchAryadev kahate hai.n. terA j~nAyak us rUp hai. sanatabhAIke sAth dUsarA koI AyA thA.

mumukShuH- tujhame.n jo kAm ho rahA hai, use jAnanekA hai aur tU jAnatA nahI.n hai. .... vah tU hai. ... kahA.N dUsareko pahichAnanA hai? jis rUp tU hai us rUp tujhe jAnanA hai. dUsarA ho to ThIk ki dikhAI nahI.n detA. tereme.n hI kAm ho rahA hai, kAyam TikanekA. mai.n sharIr, mai.n rAg,...

mumukShuH- bhai.nsekA dhyAn karate-karate mai.n bhai.nsA ho gayA hU.N. AbAlagopal tujhe manuShyarUp hI anubhavame.n A rahA hai, manuShyarUp hI tU anubhavame.n A rahA hai.

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samAdhAnaH- AbAlagopAl sabako anubhUtisvarUp AtmA ho rahA hai. vah pahichAnatA nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- anyathA adhyavasit hotA hai. ho rahA hai, jis svarUpame.n hai us rUpa. lekin adhyAsit anyathA karatA hai. ekatva spaShTa prakAshamAn hone par bhI kaShAyachakrake sAth ekamek karake anyathA... chauthI gAthA. AbAlagopAl sabako ekatvarUp jo hai us rUp... samyagj~nAn hai lekin darshan mithyA hai. anubhUtisvarUp bhagavAn AtmA anubhUyamAneti, grAhyamAneti nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- bhAvArthame.n j~nAnakA artha liyA hai. mumukShuH- le sakate hai.n. anubhUtisvarUp bhagavAn AtmA. dUsarA lo, pAriNAmikabhAvasvarUp bhagavAn AtmA, vah bhI anubhUtike arthame.n le sakate hai.n. athavA anubhUti arthAt j~nAnasvarUp bhagavAn AtmA, aisA j~nAnasvarUp bhagavAn AtmA anubhUyamAnaH vedaname.n A rahA hai, us svarUpame.n, to bhI vah jAnatA nahI.n hai. anubhUtime.n le sakate hai.n. vah anubhUti arthAt j~nAn-j~nAn kahA, anubhUtisvarUp bhagavAn AtmA. j~nAn.. j~nAn.. j~nAnasvarUp bhagavAn AtmA svaya.n anubhUyamAne. vah svarUp use vedaname.n A rahA hai ki mai.n to j~nAn.. j~nAn.. j~nAn hU.N. phir bhI jAnatA nahI.n. us anubhUyamAname.n jAnanA nahI.n le sakate.

mumukShuH- mAnaneme.n jAnanA nahI.n le sakate. mumukShuH- anubhUtisvarUpame.n le sakate hai.n. usame.n liyA hai na? ShaTakArakarUpa. 73 gAthA.

mumukShuH- vahA.N pAriNAmik liyA hai. vahA.N spaShTa ... mumukShuH- athavA j~nAnasvarUpase dhruv, j~nAnasvarUpase dhruv lo. j~nAn le.n to. aur j~nAn na le.n to pAriNAmikasvarUpa.

mumukShuH- anubhavame.n A rahA hai usakA Apane artha kiyA na ki vedaname.n A rahA hai.

mumukShuH- hA.N, vedaname.n A rahA hai. bahut spaShTa bAt hai.

mumukShuH- j~nAnakA pariNaman ho rahA hai, vah vedaname.n A rahA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, us arthame.n hai. j~nAnakA vedan ho rahA hai. vah artha hai.

mumukShuH- shAstrame.nse yah sab samajhame.n A jAtA ho to pratyakSha j~nAnIkI jarUrat hI kahA.N hai?

mumukShuH- pratyakSha sadaguru sam nahI.n, parokSha jin upakAra. aivo lakShya thayA vinA, Uge na AtmavichAra. AtmavichAr bhI uge nahI.n.

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samAdhAnaH- gurudevane mArga itanA spaShTa kar diyA hai. usame.nse gurudev dravya-guN- paryAyakI sUkShma bAte.n (karate the), sabake kAname.n DAl dI hai. kahI.n koI aTake nahI.n aise. nahI.n to kahA.N kriyAme.n the. shubhabhAvame.n. vahA.Nse dravya-guN-paryAyame.n (le Aye). us bAtako ekadam sUkShma karake batAyI. sab sUkShma bAte.n bAhar A gayI.

mumukShuH- bAhya kriyA aur shubharAgakI hI bAt thI. usame.nse dravyAnuyogakA svabhAv, vibhAv, dravya, guN, paryAy Adi..

samAdhAnaH- kriyAkA to alag kiyA, parantu dravya-guN-paryAyakA gurudevane ekadam spaShTIkaraN kar diyA.

samAdhAnaH- ... AtmAkI ruchi karanI, usakI mahimA karanI, usakI lagan lagAnI. bAharakI ruchi kam karanI. dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, AtmAkI mahimA karanI. AtmAkA svabhAv kyA hai? AtmA jAnanevAlA j~nAyak hai, usame.n bharA hai, usame.n ananta guN, vah apUrva vastu hai. bAhar kahI.n apUrvatA nahI.n hai. usakI apUrvatA lagAkar use pahichAnanekA prayatna karanA, bhedaj~nAn karanA. vah karanekA prayatna karanA. usake liye vA.nchan, vichAr, shAstra-svAdhyAy sab karane jaisA hai. mandir aur pratiShThA ho, bhagavAn jinendra devakI mahimA, gurukI mahimA Adi karane jaisA hai.

chaitanyatattva kaise pahachAname.n Aye? AtmA kaise pahachAname.n Aye? ananta kAlase pahachAnA nahI.n. gurudevane batAyA. sab bAhya kriyAme.n dharma mAnate the, shubhabhAvase dharma hogA, aisA mAnate the. lekin sab shubhabhAvame.n (dharma nahI.n hai). bIchame.n shubhabhAv Ate hai.n, lekin vah AtmAkA svarUp nahI.n hai. un sabase AtmAko bhinna pahichAnanA. AtmAme.n ananta guN (hai.n). koI adabhut tattva hai, anupam tattva hai, use pahichAnanekA prayatna karanA. vah apUrva vastu hai. usakI svAnubhUti kaise ho? muktikA mArga kaise pragaT ho? vah jIvaname.n karanekA hai.

bachapanase bahut sunA hai, gurudevane kahA hai. use lakShaNase pahichAnakar bhinna karanA, vah karanekA hai. (bhinna hI hai), parantu svaya.n bhrAntise usame.n juDatA hai. puruShArtha karanA vahI karanA hai. svaya.n puruShArtha karate rahanA, abhyAs karate rahanA. bAra.nbAr ek hI karate rahanA. chaitanya j~nAyak hai, j~nAyak hai, usIkA abhyAs karate rahanA. vismR^it ho jAy to bhI vahI abhyAs karate rahanA. vahI karanekA hai.

bAra.nbAr bhedaj~nAn karate rahanA. ye sharIr bhinna, vibhAv bhinna, sab bhinna hai. mArga ek hI hai. usake liye sab vichAr, vA.nchan sab usake liye hai.n. dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA Adi sab ek chaitanyake liye (hai). chaitanya, bas, chaitanya.. chaitanya, usIkA raTan karane jaisA hai, bAra.nbAra. usakA svabhAv pahichAnakar vah karanekA hai.

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mumukShuH- pragaT hai, mahAn hai, Ap kahate ho ki lakShaNase hI Apako prApta ho jAyagA.

samAdhAnaH- lakShaNase pahichAnA jAtA hai. vah svaya.n hI hai, anya koI nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- svaya.n us rUp hI hai.

samAdhAnaH- us rUp hI hai.

mumukShuH- hA.N jI. gurudev bahut kahakar gaye hai.n aur Ap bahut kahate ho. parantu gurudev paramaguru aur mere to Ap bhI guru hI ho.

samAdhAnaH- .. abhyAs karate rahanA. bAra.nbAr abhyAs karate rahanA, na ho to bhI. bAra.nbAr karate rahanA.

mumukShuH- Apako to dhanya hai! Ap jaisI koI vyakti is vishvame.n nahI.n hai, mAtAjI! naman karane jaisI vyakti yA smaraN karane jaisI vyakti to ek Ap hI ho.

samAdhAnaH- ApakA svAsthya barAbar nahI.n rahatA thA, ThIk rahatA hai? .. mahAbhAgya, itane jIvo.nko taiyAr kar diye. pUrA hindustAn taiyAr kar diyA. har ek vyakti kitane taiyAr ho gaye hai.n. AtmA-AtmA karanA sIkh gaye hai.n. is pa.nchamakAlame.n sab kriyAme.n paDe the. shubhabhAvase dharma hotA hai, aisA mAnate the. usake bajAy AtmA.. AtmA.. shubhAshubh bhAvase AtmA nyArA hai. bhale bIchame.n shubhabhAv Aye, lekin terA svabhAv nahI.n hai. tU usase bhinna hai, aisA kahanevAle gurudev mile. dravya-guN-paryAyakI gaharI-gaharI .. kI. gurudevane pUre hindustAn, hindI-gujarAtI sabako gurudevane taiyAr kiyA. gurudevane hI sabako muktike mArga par moD diye hai.n. mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. aisA bhedaj~nAnakA, svAnubhUtikA mArga batAyA.

mumukShuH- kisIko guru na mile, aise guru pa.nchamakAlame.n.. AhAhA..! kuCh alag hI prakArase kahate the.

samAdhAnaH- bhedaj~nAn karanA vahI muktikA mArga hai, svAnubhUti karanA vahI (muktikA mArga hai).

mumukShuH- bhedaj~nAn hI mukhya vastu hai.

samAdhAnaH- bhedaj~nAn mukhya vastu hai.

mumukShuH- bhedaj~nAn honeke bAd hI apane AtmAkA lakShya hotA hai.

samAdhAnaH- kevalaj~nAn bAdame.n hotA hai, pahale to usakA bhedaj~nAn hotA hai. jo pariNati Aye usakA bhed varte yA usakA ras TUT jAy yA bhedaj~nAn ho ki mai.n chaitanya j~nAyak hU.N, j~nAyak hU.N, aisI pariNati rahA kare. kabhI-kabhI usakI svAnubhUti ho. bAkI bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA nira.ntar vartatI rahe, aisI samyagdR^iShTiko pariNati hotI hai.

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mumukShuH- shAnti arthAt samAdhi rahe.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, A.nshik j~nAyakake vedanakI pariNati rahanI chAhiye na. ... karanekA svaya.nko bAkI rahatA hai. bAkI sachchA j~nAn... gurudevane param upakAr kiyA hai. sabako upakAr karake kahA.N pahu.NchA diye hai.n! yathArtha j~nAn... isake pahale bhI koI AyA thA ki gurudevane kahA.N... gurudevane sabako kitanI yathArtha dR^iShTi karavAyI hai. aisA dete hai.n vaisI to hamAre gurudevane sabako yathArtha dR^iShTi dI hai. kahI.n galat jagahame.n nahI.n pha.Nsakar ek j~nAyak satya hai. gurudevane yathArtha dR^iShTi dI hai. sab aisA mAne ki nimittamAtra hU.N, kar nahI.n sakatA, aisA bole. lekin a.ntar pariNati honI ek alag vastu hai. sabako diyA. Adhe ghaNTe, ek ghaNTeme.n sabako diyA jAtA hai. aise diyA jAtA ho to ananta kAlase kyo.n nahI.n huA? shAstro.nme.n usakI durlabhatA kitanI batAyI hai.

gurudevane pAmarako pAr utArA, aisA (kArya) kiyA hai. .. sabako diye hai.n. sab bhUle hueko mArga diyA hai. kahI.n bhUlA na paDe (aise) divyachakShu de diye hai.n. svaya.nko chalanekA bAkI rahA hai. bAkI kis rAste par jAnA, vah batA diyA hai. kriyAme.n mat aTakanA, shubhAshubh bhAvame.n.. shubhabhAvame.n mai.nne itanA kiyA, yah kiyA, vah kiyA, itanA vA.nchan kiyA, itanA raTan kiyA, itanA paDhA, mandir gayA, pUjA kI... kahI.n aTak jAy aisA nahI.n rakhA hai. paryAyamAtra... paryAyakA lakShya karaneme.n aTakegA to shAshvat dravya grahaN nahI.n kar sakegA. mAtra j~nAyakako jAno. bAhya jAnanese, ek-ek j~neyako, aise khaNDa-khaNDa j~nAnako jAnanese bhI akhaNDa pakaDame.n nahI.n AyagA. akhaNDako grahaN kara. kahA.Nse kahA.N lAkar rakh diyA hai. kahA.N ye bAt sab karate aur kahA.N vah bAt hai. aisI bAt use sUkShma lage, gurudevakI bAt to sUkShmase sUkShma hai. dravya, guN, paryAya.

.. parantu andar dravyako grahaN karanA. kShaNik paryAy jo ho rahI hai. paryAyame.n bhI aTakanA nahI.n. kahA.N gurudevane lAkar rakh diyA hai. bhedaj~nAn karanA. samayasArame.n (AtA hai), nayapakSho.nse atikrAnta. kisI bhI nayapakShakA grahaN nahI.n karanA.

mumukShuH- ek to anAdikA anajAnA mArga...

samAdhAnaH- usame.n kahI.n-kahI.n aTak gayA hai. bhedaj~nAn honA chAhiye, jAgate, sote, svapname.n. to kahate the, sab unakA hI hai. ham sabako aisA hai, aisA usane kahA. ek bahin thI na? sabako unho.nne aisA diyA hai. sab kahA.N khaDe hai.n? bhUl khA jAte hai.n.

mumukShuH- .. sUkShma kar, aisA AtA hai. isame.n kyA kahanA hai? kaise karanA?

samAdhAnaH- upayog sthUl ho gayA hai. sab sthUlatAse grahaN hotA hai. ye sab bAharakA hai. bAharake upayogame.n ye jo vikalpa, rAg Adi grahaN kar rahA hai, sthUl

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bAhya vastu j~neyarUpase grahaN (karatA hai). andar AtmAko grahaN kare vah upayog sUkShma hai. AtmAkA svabhAv pahichAnakar a.ntarame.n jAy, vah upayog sUkShma hai. sUkShma hokar a.ntarame.n jAy to svaya.nko grahaN kar sakatA hai. bAkI bAhya vastu grahaN kare yA sthUl- sthUl vichAr kare vah sab upayog sthUl hai. a.ntarame.n nij chaitanyadravyako grahaN karanA, vah upayog sUkShma hai.

mumukShuH- gyArah a.ng takako sthUl upayog kahA. paramAgamasArame.n hai ki gyArah a.ngakA upayog sthUl hai aur chaitanyasvabhAvako grahaN karatA hai vah upayog sUkShma hai.

samAdhAnaH- (vah) upayog sUkShma hai. chaitanyadravyako grahaN nahI.n kiyA hai isaliye upayog sthUl hai. nij chaitanyako grahaN kare to upayog sUkShma hai. gyArah a.ngakA j~nAn kiyA, usame.n sab jAnA, parantu AtmAko grahaN nahI.n kiyA to sab sthUl hai. andarame.n AtmA chaitanyatattva grahaN (nahI.n kiyA). bhale use shrutaj~nAn huA, dravya-guN-paryAy jAne, sab jAnA to sahI, lekin mai.n yah chaitanya hU.N, aise grahaN nahI.n kiyA. vah upayog sthUl hai.

upayog svasanmukh nahI.n muDA, upayog bAhar hI rahA isaliye upayog sthUl hai. a.ntarame.n chaitanyako grahaN kare to upayog sUkShma hai. kuCh bhI jAnA, to bhI upayogako sthUl kahaneme.n AtA hai. kyo.nki svaya.nko grahaN nahI.n kiyA isaliye. svasanmukh-apanI or dishA muDI isaliye upayog bAhar hai. bAhar rahA huA upayog sthUl hai. gyArah a.ngame.n use sab A gayA. dravya-guN-paryAy sab, anek jAtakI bAte.n, shrutaj~nAnakI bAte.n jAnI, chaitanyakI or upayog nahI.n gayA, nij svabhAvako grahaN nahI.n kiyA, isaliye sthUl hai. gyArah a.ngame.n nau tattva, ChaH dravya, dravya-guN-paryAy sab jAnA.

mumukShuH- sthUl upayogake sambandhame.n to Ap jo vistAr karate ho, vah to khyAlame.n Ave. parantu sUkShma upayogakA viShay, unake prashname.n vah hai. hamAre vahA.N chalA thA. isaliye pUChA.

samAdhAnaH- apane a.ntarame.n upayog jAy vah upayog sUkShma hai. svasanmukh jAy ki mai.n yah chaitanya hU.N, yah chaitanyadravya hU.N, j~nAyak hU.N, aise nij svabhAvakI or jAy, usakI dishA badale. usame.n dishA bAhar hI hai. dishA a.ntarame.n jAy, apane arUpI tattvako grahaN kare to upayog sUkShma hai. a.ntarame.n jAkar svabhAvako grahaN kare to sUkShma hai. dhIrA hokar a.ntarame.n yah svabhAv hai aur yah vibhAv hai. aise svaya.n apane svabhAvako grahaN kare to sUkShmatA kahaneme.n AtI hai.

mumukShuH- arUpI tattvako grahaN karaneke laye lakShaNakA bhAvabhAsan pahale vikalpAtmak honA chAhiye, aisA kuCh hai?

samAdhAnaH- lakShaN svaya.n svaya.nko pahichAne. bhAvabhAsana. lakShaN, bhAvabhAsan vah

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sab ekasAth hI hotA hai. yah chaitanyalakShaN hai aur yah vibhAvalakShaN hai. dono.n lakShaNako bhinna kare to vah vAstavik sUkShmatA hai. bhAvabhAsan ho to a.ntarame.n use grahaN ho jAya. yathArtha bhAvabhAsan ho to a.ntarame.n chaitanya grahaN ho hI jAtA hai. abhI tak yathArtha bhAvabhAsan nahI.n huA hai.

mumukShuH- vikalpAtmak yathArtha bhAvabhAsan nahI.n huA hai?

samAdhAnaH- vikalpAtmak vah buddhise hotA hai. isaliye use vyavahArase yathArtha kahaneme.n AtA hai. vAstavik yathArtha svaya.nko-chaitanyako grahaN kare to hI vah yathArthatA hai. vAstavik yathArthatA tab kahaneme.n AtI hai. buddhise nirNay kare to use yathArtha kahaneme.n AtA hai, parantu vAstavikarUpase yathArtha svaya.nko grahaN kare tab kahaneme.n AtA hai.

mumukShuH- aisA kuCh hai ki paradravyakI paryAy rAg aur j~nAn, pragaT j~nAnabhAv, pragaT j~nAnabhAv use khyAlame.n Aye ki yah jAnapanA, yah jAnapanA, yah jAnapanA. aise khyAlapUrvak yah jAnanevAlA so mai.n, aisA jA sakatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- rAgake sAth jo j~nAn hai vah j~nAn hai, vah ek kShaNik paryAy hai. isaliye vah paryAy hai utanA hI mai.n nahI.n hU.N, mai.n to shAshvat hU.N. akhaNDa j~nAyak hU.N, aise grahaN honA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- aisA trikAlI jAnanevAlA.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, mai.n trikAl jAnanevAlA hU.N. ye kShaNik jo j~nAnakI paryAy kShaN- kShaName.n badalatI hai vah kShaN-kShaName.n badalatI paryAy, aisA mai.n nahI.n hU.N. parantu mai.n shAshvat svaya.n j~nAyak hI hU.N. svaya.n merA astitva hI j~nAyak hai. merA astitva j~nAyakatAse hI rachit hai. svaya.n rachit hai. j~nAyakatAsvarUp jo astitva hai vahI mai.n hU.N. mAtra ye kShaN- kShaName.n parivartan hotA hai, vah parivartan merA mUl vAstavik svarUp nahI.n hai. parantu svaya.n j~nAyakase hI merA astitva j~nAyakatAse rachit akhaNDa hai. vah mai.n j~nAyaka. aise j~nAyakako grahaN kare.

ye kShaNikamAtra jo j~nAn-j~nAn dikhatA hai, vah merA mUl astitva nahI.n hai. vah to paryAy badalatI hai. aise grahaN honA chAhiye. anantAse bharA akhaNDa j~nAyakatAse rachit astitva ananta-ananta agAdh shaktiyo.nse bharA jo j~nAyakatAkA astitva hai, vah mai.n hU.N. anantatA use dikhatI nahI.n hai, lekin use itanI mahimA a.ntarame.n A jAtI hai ki jo astitva j~nAyakatAse rachit hai, agAdh shaktio.nse bharA aisA merA astitva hai. khAlI astitva yA j~nAyak aise nahI.n, parantu ananta shaktio.nse bharA, aisI jo j~nAyakatA, vaisI merI j~nAyakatA hai. aise mahimApUrvak a.ntarame.nse use j~nAyakatA grahaN honI chAhiye.