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samAdhAnaH- .. vah pratIt svaya.n andarase vichAr karake nirNay kare ki yah svabhAv so mai.n hU.N aur ye svabhAv so mai.n nahI.n hU.N. jaise bAharame.n pratIt karanI ho...

mumukShuH- satat chi.ntan?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, chi.ntan karanA paDe. koI nirNay karanA ho, koI manuShyakI parIkShA karanI ho to svaya.n vichAr karake jaise nakkI karatA hai yA bAharakI jarUrat mahasUs ho ki isame.n apaneko lAbh hai. to usakI dukAn kaisI hai? isame.n lAbh hai? munAphA hai? vah jaise parIkShA karake nakkI karatA hai, vaise parIkShA karake nakkI karanA ki yah merA svabhAv hai aur yah merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. aise yathArtha pahichAn kare, pratIt kare. AkhIr tak pahu.Nch sakatA hai. svaya.n AtmA hai, ananta shaktise bharA hai.

mumukShuH- bahin! isame.n satsa.ngakA mAhAtmya kahA.N AtA hai?

samAdhAnaH- isame.n satsa.ngakA mAhAtmya anAdi kAlase anajAnA mArga hai, svaya.n kuCh jAnatA nahI.n. to jAnate hai.n aise guru aur aise jo sAdharmI ho.n, unakA satsa.ng kare to svaya.nko jAnane milatA hai. svaya.n apaneAp to kuCh jAn nahI.n sakatA. isaliye satsa.ng karanekA mahApuruSho.nne kahA hai ki tU satsa.ng kara.

sa.nsArame.n jo anek jAtake parichayame.n rahatA hai, to us jAtake use vichAr sphurit hote hai.n. isaliye satsa.ngame.n yathArtha mArga prApta honekA (kAraN banatA hai). satsa.ngame.n jo- jo jIv sAdharmI ho.n,.. guruse to koI apUrva mArga prApta hotA hai. isaliye guru ho to gurukI vANI sunanI. svaya.nko mArga milatA hai. AtmAkI ruchi palaTatI hai ki yahI satya hai. AtmAme.n hI koI apUrvatA anupamatA bharI hai. aisI gurukI vANIse a.ntarame.n shraddhA pragaT honekA, ruchi pragaT honekA kAraN banatA hai.

mumukShuH- apaneAp tathya prApta ho sakatA hai? apaneAp mAlUm paDe ki yahI AtmAkA svarUp hai?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, mAlUm paDe. parantu jo mahApuruSh kah gaye hai.n, usake sAth svaya.n milAn kare, vichAr kare. apaneAp mAlUm paD sakatA hai. svaya.n svata.ntra AtmA hai, kahI.n parAdhIn nahI.n hai. koI use karavA nahI.n detA. apaneAp mAlUm paDatA hai. parIkShA

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karake svaya.nko nakkI karanA hai. satpuruShako pahichAnanA ho to svaya.n hI nakkI karanA hai.

jise satakI ruchi jAgR^it huyI, us ruchivAleke hR^idayake netra hI aise ho jAte hai.n ki vah satpuruShako pahichAn letA hai ki ye satpuruSh hai. is prakAr usake hR^idayake netra hI nirmal ho jAte hai.n.

vaise svaya.n apaneAp AtmAkA svabhAv nishchit kar sakatA hai ki yah merA svabhAv hai aur yah mai.n nahI.n hU.N. koI apUrvatA mereme.n bharI hai, aisA svaya.n nakkI kar sakatA hai. aisA koI AtmAkA nakkI karanekA svabhAv hai.

mumukShuH- jise AtmAkI anubhUti hotI hai, aur ham sAmAnya manuShya ho aur jise AtmAkI anubhUti huyI ho, unake jIvaname.n kyA pharka paDatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- unakA jIvan bAharase dekhanA bahut mushkil hai. a.ntarame.n use AtmA bhinna hI rahatA ho. jo a.ntarame.n vikalpa hote hai.n, usase bhinna, usakA AtmA bhinna (rahatA hai). use ekatvabuddhi nahI.n hotI. sharIrake sAth, vikalpake sAth ekatvabuddhi (nahI.n hotI). usakA AtmA bhinna hI (rahatA hai). use kShaN-kShaName.n mai.n jAnanevAlA j~nAyak hU.N, j~nAyak hU.N, j~nAyak hU.N, aisI usakI sahaj dhArA chalatI ho. j~nAyakakI dhArA. aur koI bAr use vikalpa TUTakar svAnubhUti (hotI hai). AtmAme.n aisA ekAgra ho jAy ki bAharame.n kyA ho rahA hai, vah use mAlUm nahI.n paDe. vah AtmAme.n aisA lIn ho jAtA hai aur aisA anupam Ananda use AtA hai ki jagatame.n koI vastume.n aisA Ananda nahI.n hai. aisA anupam Ananda use pragaT hotA hai.

usakA AtmA bhinna hI bhinna a.ntarame.n kAm karatA hai. use bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA rahatI hai. lekin vah usake bolaneme.n, usake parichayase khyAlame.n AtA hai ki a.ntarame.n inakA hR^iday bhinna hai. usakI dR^iShTi koI alag kAm karatI hai, usakI pariNati koI alag kAm karatI hai.

AtmAkI anubhUti koI jagatame.n jAn na sake, aisA anupam AtmA hai, usakI anubhUti use hotI hai. aisI shAnti aur Ananda. AkulatAse ChUTakar aisA j~nAn aur aisA Ananda (anubhavame.n AtA hai). ananta guNo.nse bharA, ananta shaktiyo.nse bharA aisA chaitanyadev virAjatA hai, usakI use anubhUti hotI hai.

mumukShuH- Ap kahate ho na ki vA.nchan aur koI j~nAnIpuruShako sunanA. aise baraso.n bIt jAte hai.n. jahA.N koI mile vahA.N sunane jAte hai.n. yahA.N bahinashrI achChA bolatI hai.n to yahA.N chalate hai.n. lekin merA aisA anubhav hai ki aise sunanese sirpha jAnane milatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- ruchi hI nahI.n lagI hai, isaliye aisA ho jAtA hai. kharI ruchi aur shraddhA nahI.n hai ki a.ntarame.n hI sabakuCh hai. utanI shraddhA nahI.n hai. isaliye vApas muD

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jAtA hai. apane puruShArthakI kShati hai. a.ntarame.n koI apUrvatA bharI hai. AtmAme.n koI anupamatA bharI hai, vah pragaT karane jaisA hai. ye sab niHsAr hai, sArabhUt nahI.n hai. vibhAvake sAth ekatvabuddhi karane jaisI nahI.n hai. utanI jo a.ntarame.n svaya.nkI ruchi honI chAhiye, us ruchikI kShati hai. isaliye vah vApas A jAtA hai. vApas AnekA kAraN apanA hI hai. kuCh paDhe, vichAr kare, parichay kare to bhI koI pharka na paDe to apanI hI kShati hai.

yathArtha ruchi jise a.ntarase ho ki AtmAme.n koI apUrvatA bharI hI hai aur yah nishchit hai, itanA yadi vishvAs ho to use dev-guru-shAstra jo kahate hai.n, sachche dev, sachche guru... gurune aisI sAdhanA pragaT kI, bhagavAnane aisI pUrNatA pragaT kI, aise AtmAko prApta kiyA. un par use koI apUrva mahimA Aye. AchAyAne shAstrame.n (aisA kahA hai), use koI apUrva mahimA un par AtI hai. apane svabhAvakI mahimA Aye. isaliye usake jIvaname.n amuk prakArase parivartan to usakI ruchike kAraN ho hI jAtA hai, nahI.n honekA kAraN apanI ruchikI kShati aur apane vishvAsakI kShati hai. use bAharakA vishvAs AyA hai, parantu a.ntarakA vishvAs hI nahI.n AyA hai. isaliye vah palaT jAtA hai.

bhale use svAnubhUti honeme.n der lage, lekin a.ntarame.n yathArtha ruchi jAgR^it ho ki karanA to yahI hai, to usakA jIvan palaT jAy, to use kahI.n chain nahI.n paDatA. use koI laukik kAyAme.n khaDA ho to bhI mujhe kuCh alag hI karanekA hai, mujhe a.ntarame.n jAnA hai, isame.n mujhe kahI.n nahI.n ras nahI.n hai. use ras nahI.n lagatA hai, use AtmAme.n ras lage, AtmAkI bAto.nme.n ras lage, aise j~nAnIpuruSho.nko dekhakar use ras lage. aisA sab use AtmAkI ruchi palaTe to use har jagah ras lage. AtmA-orakI bAto.nme.n ras lage, dUsarI sab bAte.n use rasayukta nahI.n lagatI. is prakAr use jIvaname.n parivartan ho jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- .. ruchi kaise ho?

samAdhAnaH- ruchi, andar yathArtha vishvAs karanA ki isIme.n sabakuCh hai, kahI.n aur nahI.n hai. itanA svaya.n vishvAs karake nakkI kare to parivartan hotA hai.

mumukShuH- buddhise samajhakar ruchi utpanna ho, aisA nahI.n parantu jise aisA kahe.n ki turanta ekadam utpanna ho jAy, bechain kar de, kahI.n chain na paDe, aisI tIvratA kaise ho?

samAdhAnaH- a.ntarase svaya.nko puruShArtha karanA paDatA hai. vAstavame.n isame.n kuCh nahI.n hai, ye niHsAr hI hai, aisI taiyArI svaya.nko hI karanI paDatI hai, koI kar nahI.n detA. yadi koI kar detA ho to svaya.n parAdhIn ho gayA. to koI kar de aur koI le le. parAdhIn nahI.n hai, svaya.n svAdhIn hai. jagatame.n rakhaDanA aur janma-maraN karanA apane

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hAthakI bAt hai, usase ChUTanA vah bhI apane hAthakI bAt hai. janma-maraN karanevAlA svaya.n svata.ntra aur mokSha karanevAlA bhI svaya.n svata.ntra hai. aisI svata.ntratA AtmAkI hai. apanI svata.ntratAse svaya.n palaTatA hai. usame.n guru nimitta hote hai.n, dev nimitta ho.n, shAstra nimitta ho.n, parantu palaTanekA mUl kAraN to svaya.nkA hI hai. rakhaDanevAlA bhI svaya.n aur mokSha karanevAlA bhI svaya.n hI hai.

mumukShuH- sab AtmAko sAkShAtkAr ho, aisA kuCh hai? athavA usame.n bhI koI bhinna-bhinna star hogA?

samAdhAnaH- AtmAkA svabhAv to aisA hI hai ki Atma sAkShAtkAr kar sake.

mumukShuH- kar sake, koI bhI AtmA kar sakatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- koI bhI AtmA kar sakatA hai. parantu usakA puruShArtha svaya.nko karanA paDatA hai.

mumukShuH- usame.n bhI koI bhUmikA hai ki yah pratham bhUmikA hai, dUsarI bhUmikA hai, ek usase U.NchA hai. koI thoDe puruShArthase Upar A jAy, kisIko AjIvan, dUsare janmame.n bhI puruShArtha karanA paDe?

samAdhAnaH- jisake puruShArthakI mandatA hotI hai vah la.nbe samay tak puruShArtha karatA rahe. thoDA-thoDA, thoDA-thoDA puruShArtha karatA rahe, ugratA na ho to la.nbe kAl tak chalatA hai. koI jIvako aisI ugratA ho jAy to kShaNamAtrame.n svaya.n palaT jAtA hai, to jaldI kare. jisakA puruShArtha dhIre-dhIre, dhIre-dhIre chalatA ho to la.nbA kAl chalatA rahe. aur ugratA Aye to turanta ho jAya.

mumukShuH- nahI.n, jaise hamAre dharmame.n kahate hai.n ki karmakI thIyarI gine. Apake karma hI amuk prakArase khatma hote jAy, aise tumhe AtmAke sAth...?

samAdhAnaH- nahI.n. karma hai na vah karma to mAtra nimitta hai. karmake kAraN jIv rakhaDatA hai (aisA nahI.n hai).

mumukShuH- to phir apaneme.n ek gharakI do bahane.n ho.n, unakA byAh huA ho, ek hI gharame.n baDI huI hai.n, to koI ek sAdhAraN gharame.n jAtI hai, ek baDe gharame.n jAtI hai, to vah usake karma anusAr hai?

samAdhAnaH- vah karma anusAr hai. vah to puNya-pApakA kAraN hai. puNya-pApakA kAraN hai. pUrvame.n svaya.nne...

mumukShuH- usI tarah AtmAko bhI DigrI anusAr koI pharka hotA hogA na?

samAdhAnaH- bAhya sa.nyog prApta honA vah sab puNya-pApakA kAraN hai. lekin andar AtmAkA parivartan karanA vah apane puruShArthakI bAt hai.

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mumukShuH- vahI kahatI hU.N ki puruShArtha aur karma. hamAreme.n puruShArtha aur karma dono.nko karIb ek sthAname.n rakhate hai.n ki Apane Apake karma kaise bA.Ndhate ho aur kaise ChoDate ho, us par Apake AtmAkI unnati ginI jAtI hai.

samAdhAnaH- bAhya sa.nyog prApta karanA, paise milanA, ye milanA, dUsarA sab milanA vah puNya-pApake kAraN hai. parantu andarame.n jo rAg-dveSh hote hai.n, sa.nkalpa-vikalpa (hote hai.n), vah karma nahI.n karavAte. yadi karma hI karavAte ho.n... usame.n karma nimitta hai. yadi rAg-dveSh karma kare aisA ho to svaya.n parAdhIn ho gayA. to kisIko ham aisA nahI.n kah sakate ki tU rAg mat karanA, tU dveSh mat karanA. to upadesh kaise diyA jAy ki tU aise doSh mat kara. tU yahA.Nse vApas muD jA, tU aisA mat kara. aisA kyo.n kahaneme.n AtA hai? ki svaya.n kar sakatA hai aur vApas muDatA hai. isaliye puruShArthame.n svaya.n svata.ntra hai. usame.n svaya.nke jo pariNAm hote hai.n, vah pariNAm badalaname.n svaya.n svata.ntra hai. usame.n karma nimitta hai. parantu pariNAm kaise badalanA vah apane hAthakI bAt hai.

parantu bAhya uday jo Aye, sharIrame.n rog AyA, koI ashAtA vedanIy AyI, dhan mile, na mile, vah sab svaya.n badal nahI.n sakatA. kisIko achChA dha.ndhA mile, kisIko na mile, vah sab svaya.n badal nahI.n sakatA. parantu apane bhAvako svaya.n badal sakatA hai. rAg-dveSh kitanA karanA aur kaise karanA, vah svaya.n badal sakatA hai. rAg-dveShako jaise badal sakatA hai ki svaya.n shAnti rakhanI, chAhe jaise sa.nyog Aye to AkulatA nahI.n karanI, khed nahI.n karanA, vah jaise badal sakatA hai, vaise svaya.n apane svabhAvako pahichAnanA, parase bhinnatA karanI, AtmAme.n jAnA, vah sab svata.ntrarUpase svaya.n kar sakatA hai. bhAv badal sakatA hai. parantu bAharakI nahI.n kar sakatA. bAharakA sab puNyAdhIn hai. lekin rAg-dveSh palaTakar a.ntarame.n jAnA, vah (karaneme.n) svaya.n svAdhIn hai.

yadi rAg-dveSh bhI palaT na sake to-to jIv ekadam parAdhIn ho gayA. rAg karma karAve, dveSh karma karAve, ab mai.n kyA karu.N? mujhase kuCh nahI.n ho sakatA. to upadesh vyartha jAtA hai. AchArya aisA kahate hai.n, tU rAg-dveSh mat kar, tU vikalpa mat kar, tU shAnti rakha. vah sab upadesh vyartha hai. svaya.n badal sakatA hai, shAnti rakh sakatA hai. karma hI karavAtA ho to upadesh kyo.n? isaliye karma apane bhAvako nahI.n kar sakatA. rAg-dveShame.n svaya.n juDatA hai aur badalatA bhI svaya.n hai. vah apane hAthakI bAt hai. svabhAvako pahichAnanA, usakA puruShArtha karanA usake liye AtmA svata.ntra hai.

mumukShuH- matalab karmakA bandhan AtmAko us jAtakA hai hI nahI.n?

samAdhAnaH- karmakA bandhan to hai, bandhan hai. use karmakA bandhan, ATh prakArake karma jIvako bandhate hai.n. j~nAnako rokanevAle, darshanako rokanevAle, mohanIyame.n nimitta ho,

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mohame.n nimitta ho, ye rog Aye, paise mile aise ATh prakArake karma hai.n. parantu vah apane bhAvako nahI.n badalate. apane bhAv jo rAg-dveSh ho, usame.n nimitta hai.n. lekin bhAv karatA hai svaya.n. puruShArthase badal sakatA hai. utanA jIv usame.n svata.ntra hai.

mumukShuH- ho sake tab tak karma nahI.n bAndhanA aisA jo kahate hai.n, vah vastu...?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, karmakA bandhan jab tak svaya.n rAg aur dveSh, kaShAy hote hai.n, tab tak karmakA bandhan khaDA hI hai.

mumukShuH- utanA apane AtmAko sAkShAt karaneme.n samay lagatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, bIchame.n samay lagatA hai. jab tak usame.n rukA hai, tab tak samay lagatA hai. isIliye guru aur AchArya kahate hai.n ki tU puruShArtha karake terI or jA, tU usakA bhedaj~nAn kara. ye rAg terA svarUp nahI.n hai, ye dveSh terA svarUp nahI.n hai. tU usase bhinna hai. tU jAnanevAlA hai. usakA tU j~nAtA ho jA, sAkShI ho jA. vah terA svarUp nahI.n hai. tu puruShArtha kara. isaliye usake jo vikalpa hai.n, vah shAnta hote hai.n. usakA bhedaj~nAn karake Age baDhe. abhI ChUT nahI.n sakate. pahale usase bhedaj~nAn karatA hai, svabhAv pahichAnatA hai ki yah merA svabhAv hai aur ye sab kaShAy-krodh, mAnAdi vah bhinna hai.n. mai.n unase bhinna hU.N. aise bhedaj~nAn karatA hai.

phir dhIre-dhIre puruShArtha karatA huA, usame.n lInatA karate-karate svAnubhUtikI ugratA karatA hai. ataH dhIre-dhIre pahale to use samyagdarshan hotA hai. phir use munidashA AtI hai. svAnubhUti baDhatI hai isaliye munidashA AtI hai. gharabAr ChoDakar akele AtmAme.n rahatA hai. kShaN-kShaName.n AtmAkI svAnubhUtime.n rahatA hai. aisA karate-karate jab use kevalaj~nAn hotA hai tab pUrNatA hotI hai. phir sarva kamAkA kShay ho jAtA hai, vItarAgI dashA hotI hai.

lekin abhI gR^ihasthAshramame.n to vah bhedaj~nAn karatA hai. ye jo kaShAy hai.n, vah merA svarUp nahI.n hai. mai.n usase bhinna chaitanya hU.N. mai.n nirmal svabhAvI shuddhAtmA hU.N. aisA karake svaya.n apanA j~nAn karake us or jhukatA hai.

mumukShuH- sa.nsArame.n rahakar is prakArakA Atma sAkShAtkAr athavA is orakI mehanat ho sakatI hai?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, ho sakatI hai.

mumukShuH- usake liye ye sab ChoDanA chAhiye?

samAdhAnaH- nahI.n, bAharakA ChoDanA chAhiye, aisA nahI.n hai. bAharakA kab ChUT jAy? ki jab use munidashA AtI hai na, yathArtha munidashA Aye tab ChUT jAya. pahale use yathArtha j~nAn ho, AtmAko pahichAne, usame.n ekAgratA ho, vah sab gR^ihasthAshramame.n ho sakatA hai. usakI ruchi badal sakatA hai. bhAv palaTanA apane hAthakI bAt hai. bAharakA gR^ihasthAshram

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ho to bhI a.ntarakI ruchi badal denI ki ye jo rAg aur dveSh aur anek jAtake jo vikalpa Ate hai.n, vah AkulatA merA svarUp nahI.n hai, mai.n usase bhinna hU.N. aise gR^ihasthAshramame.n itanA karake apane svabhAvako pahichAne. mai.n yah chaitanya hU.N, isame.n Ananda hai, isame.n nahI.n hai. usakA bhedaj~nAn karake vikalpa toDakar svAnubhUti kar sake aisA gR^ihasthAshramame.n kar sakatA hai.

phir svAnubhUti baDhate-baDhate use tyAg ho jAtA hai. svAnubhUti gR^ihasthAshramame.n kar sakatA hai. a.ntarase nyArA ho jAtA hai. chakravartI the to gR^ihasthAshramame.n rahakar AtmAkI svAnubhUti karate the. kShaNamAtra AtmAkA dhyAn ho jAy aisA gR^ihasthAshramame.n usako ho sakatA hai.