Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 172.

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samAdhAnaH- ... sab vah karanekA hai. usIke liye yah sab tattvavichAr, vA.nchan, svAdhyAy ek chaitanyatattva pahichAnaneke liye (hai). gurudevane vahI kahA hai. sabakA sAr ek hI hai ki chaitanyatattva pahichAnanA. usakI pariNati, usakI svAnubhUti pragaT karanI vahI ek, sarvasva sAr ek hai. jIvanakI saphalatA usame.n hai. usakI bhAvanA, usakI mahimA, usakA vichAr, usakA nirNay, usakI pariNati, jo puruShArtha ho vah usIke liye karane jaisA hai.

mumukShuH- Urdhvalok, madhyalok aur adholoka. usame.n adholokame.n jin mandirakI sa.nkhyA jyAdA hai. vahA.N aise pariNAm...?

samAdhAnaH- kudaratI shAshvat pratimAe.N hai.n.

mumukShuH- vahA.N jyAdA hai. .. pAtAlalokame.n.

samAdhAnaH- asa.nkhyAt jinamandir hai.n. vya.ntaralok, bhavanapati, jyotiSh un sabame.n shAshvat jin mandir hai.n. kudaratI shAshvat hai.n. devalokake devo.nke nivAsame.n hai.n. adholok yAnI jahA.N dev basate hai.n, jyotiSh, vya.ntar, bhavanapati. vaimAnikame.n to hai.n hI. vahA.N sab jagah hai.n. manuShyalokame.n hai, sab jagah hai.n, shAshvat pratimAe.N.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! AtmAko jo pakaDanekA hai, vah to ughAD to j~nAnakA kShayopasham a.nsh hai vah ughADarUp a.nsh hai, usIme.n pUrA AtmA pakaDame.n AtA hai? ughAD a.nshame.n hI? dUsarA koI sAdhan to hai nahI.n. aj~nAnIke pAs dUsarA koI sAdhan hai nahI.n.

samAdhAnaH- a.ntarakI svaya.nkI jo ruchi hai vah svaya.nko grahaN karatI hai. yahI karane jaisA hai, mai.n kaise AtmAko khojU? apanI khojanekI bhAvanA hai, aur andarakI jo mahimA, chaTapaTI lage vahI apane j~nAyakako, vah bhale hI kShayopashamakA a.nsh hai, parantu vah AtmAko grahaN kar letA hai. vah bhale paryAy hai, lekin grahaN dravyako karanA hai. dravyako grahaN karatI hai. usakI dR^iShTi pUre dravya par jAtI hai. vah kShayopasham bhale thoDA ho, lekin vah mukhya prayojanabhUt tattvako grahaN kar sakatA hai. usakI or ruchi aur lagan ho to grahaN ho sakatA hai. vibhAvase bhinna hokar chaitanyako grahaN kar letA hai.


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shAstrame.n AtA hai na? utanA kalyAN, satyArtha kalyAN ek hI ki jo yah j~nAnasvarUp AtmA hai, j~nAyak AtmA hai. usame.n sa.ntuShTa ho, usIme.n tR^ipta ho, vahI karanekA hai. usIme.n sab sarvasva hai. vah grahaN hotA hai. bhale paryAy hai, parantu akhaNDako grahaN kar letI hai.

mumukShuH- jI hA.N, usame.n tAkat hai.

samAdhAnaH- usame.n grahaN karanekI tAkat hai.

mumukShuH- a.nsh hai lekin svabhAvakA hai.

samAdhAnaH- apane j~nAnakA a.nsh hai, vah dravyako grahaN karatA hai. usakI dishA apanI or jAy, dR^iShTi apanI or jAy to grahaN karatA hai. upayog bAhar ho vah grahaN nahI.n karatA. apane svabhAvakI or jAy to svabhAvako grahaN karatA hai.

mumukShuH- svAsthya kaisA rahatA hai? mAtAjI!

samAdhAnaH- gurudevane bahut prabhAvanA kI hai. apane to unake pAs samajhe hai.n.

mumukShuH- gurudev yahA.N Aye ki nahI.n? mAtAjI! Ap to unake ananya bhakta hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- vartamAname.n sAkShAt koI nahI.n A sakatA. svapna Aye vah to Ate hai.n.

mumukShuH- dev hai.n, mAtAjI! A nahI.n sakate?

samAdhAnaH- is pa.nchamakAlame.n dev kahA.N abhI Ate hai.n? sAkShAt dev Ate nahI.n.

mumukShuH- ye to unakI tapobhUmi hai na.

samAdhAnaH- Aye to kisIkI dekhanekI shakti kahA.N hai? devo.nko dekhanekI abhI ke manuShyo.nkI shakti kahA.N hai?

mumukShuH- ham to Apake liye kahate hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- AnekA vichAr Aye to koI dekh sake aisA kahA.N hai? koI hindI Akar aisA kahate hai.n, mAno.n gurudev pravachan dene Ate ho.n, phir chale jAte hai.n, aisA lagatA hai. aisA kahate hai.n.

mumukShuH- merI bhAvanAkA ghoTan chal rahA thA ki mAtAjIke pAs jAkar ... mA.Ngu.ngI.

samAdhAnaH- baDe ho gaye hai.n. jIvaname.n dhyey to vahI hai. gurudevane kahA vaha. bAharakA to sab hotA hai, sab chalatA rahatA hai. bAkI andar lakShya to ek chaitanyakA karane jaisA hai. jIvanakA dhyey to vahI karanekA hai. AtmAko pahichAnanA vahI karanekA hai. bhavabhramaNakA abhAv kaise ho? aur shuddhAtmAkI prApti kaise ho? vah karanekA hai.

mumukShuH- sonagaDhame.n rahane par bhI pravR^itti itanI rahatI hai.n ki usame.n hame.n kis prakArakI jAgR^iti rakhanI?

samAdhAnaH- pravR^itti AtmAko rok nahI.n sakatI. a.ntarakI pariNati svaya.nko jaisI


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karanI ho vaisI kar sakatA hai. bAharagA.Nv jAy to isase bhI jyAdA pravR^itti ho jAya. yahA.N to isake sambandhit sab hotA hai. bAharagA.Nv to dUsarI pravR^itti ho jAtI hai. yahA.N to AtmAke sa.nskAr dR^iDh kaise ho, vaisI pravR^itti hotI hai. isaliye svaya.n apane sa.nskAr dR^iDh karanA vah apane hAthakI bAt hai, apane puruShArthakI bAt hai. ho sakatA hai, bAharake shubhake kArya ho.n to bhI a.ntarame.n ho sakatA hai. svaya.nko jo puruShArtha karanA ho vah ho sakatA hai.

yahA.NkI sab pravR^itti to shubhakI hotI hai. bAra.nbAr usake vichAr, usakA gholan, usakA si.nchan, yahA.N to sab vahI rahatA hai. isaliye bAra.nbAr usIkI dR^iDhatA kaise ho, (vah kar sakatA hai). a.ntarame.n gaharI ruchi pragaT hokar chaitanyatattva kaise pahichAname.n Aye? bhavakA abhAv kaise ho? AtmAkA sukh kaise prApta ho? svAnubhUti kaise ho? vah sab bhAvanA andar karane jaisA hai. vah karanekA hai.

mumukShuH- karane jaisA to lagatA hai, parantu andarase, jaise bharat chakravartIke putro.nkA puruShArtha kaise phaTA, vaise hamArA puruShArtha ApakI vANIse ekadam jaldI jAgR^it ho jAy...?

samAdhAnaH- puruShArtha to svaya.nko karanekA hai. bharat chakravartIke putro.nkI bAt karate hai.n. karanekA svaya.nko hai. unhe.n puruShArtha aisA ugra ho gayA to ho gayA. apanI utanI kachAs hai ki utanI ugratA (nahI.n hai).

mumukShuH- yahA.N to baraso.nse rahate hai.n, phir bhI ugratA hoeneme.n kyo.n der lagatI hai?

samAdhAnaH- sab AtmA svata.ntra hai.n. chaturtha kAlame.n kShaName.n a.ntarmuhUrtame.n kevalaj~nAn prApta karate the, kShaName.n munipanA le le, kShaName.n samyagdarshan prApta karate the. aise sab jIv puruShArtha karate the. samyagdarshan kShaNamAtrame.n ho jAtA thA. kShaNamAtrame.n vairAgya A jAtA, kevalaj~nAn ho jAtA thA. bhagavAnakI maujUdagI ho to anek jIv ekadam jAgR^it ho jAte the. parantu is pa.nchamakAlame.n gurudev mile aur itane sa.nskAr andar Dale vah bhI mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. is pa.nchamakAlame.n yah milanA bhI durlabh hai.

mumukShuH- duniyAme.n kahI.n aur jagah hai hI nahI.n. apane to sImandhar bhagavAn mile aur ApakA itanA yog milA.

samAdhAnaH- karanekA to svaya.nko hai. bhedaj~nAn karanA, kShaN-kShaName.n jAgR^iti rakhanI, sab apane hAthakI bAt hai. sharIr bhinna, andar AtmA bhinna, vibhAv svaya.nkA svabhAv nahI.n hai. usame.n use sa.ntoSh nahI.n hotA, AtmAkI prApti ho to sa.ntoSh ho. bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA andarase pragaT karanI, vah apane puruShArthakI bAt hai. kShaN-kShaName.n ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai, use toDanI.

pratham to... bharat chakravartIke putro.nko kShaName.n samyagdarshan to huA thA, parantu muni


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ho gaye. vah bAt to alag hai. abhI to samyagdarshan kaise ho, vah bAt hai. kShaN- -kShaName.n bhedaj~nAnakI taiyArI karanI. kShaN-kShaName.n bhedaj~nAn kaise pragaT ho? kShaN-kShaName.n svaya.n AtmAko bhinna kare, j~nAyakakI svAnubhUti kaise ho? svaya.nkI bAt to bAdame.n AtI hai. vah bAt to dUr hai. abhI to svAnubhUti ho aur svAnubhUtime.n lInatA, chaitanyame.n lInatA baDhate-baDhate svAnubhUtikI visheShatA ho, vah bAt to usase dUr hai. pahale to andar bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA pragaT ho vah pratham karanekA hai. parantu gurudevane yah mArga darshAyA aur us mArga par chalanA huA, vah bhI mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai.

mumukShuH- samudramee.nse kinAre par A gaye, itanA sundar yog hamAre liye hai.

samAdhAnaH- mArga to kyA hai, vah gurudevane itanA spaShTa karake kahA hai ki kahI.n rukanA na ho. jagatake jIv kahI.n-kahI.n ruke hai.n. koI kuCh kriyAme.n, koI itanA shubhabhAv kar liyA usame.n dharma mAn liyA, kisIne kuCh (mAnA). thoDA-thoDA kare usame.n dharma mAn lete hai.n.

gurudevane to kahA, ek j~nAyakake alAvA kuCh (nahI.n). tU ek AtmAko hI grahaN kara. har jagahase dR^iShTi uThAkar ek chaitanya par dR^iShTi sthApit kara. gurudevane itanA spaShTa mArga karake darshAyA hai.

mumukShuH- .. Ap bhI vaise hI samajhAte ho.n. Ap sarvA.ng sahajAnandakI mUrti, jahA.Nse dekho vahA.N Ananda hI Ananda. aisA Ananda hame.n kaise jaldI pragaT ho, aisA hotA hai.

samAdhAnaH- a.ntarame.n utanI svaya.nko j~nAyakakI dhArA pragaT honI chAhiye to a.ntarame.nse Ananda pragaT ho. pahale to yathArtha pratIti usakI itanI dR^iDh honI chAhiye, utanI dhArA pragaT honI chAhiye to use Ananda pragaT ho.

mumukShuH- itanA Anandase bharA hai aur usakA lakShya karaneme.n itanA prayatna aur mehanat karanI paDe?

samAdhAnaH- anAdikA abhyAs bAhar chalA gayA hai. anya ruchime.n aTakA hai, bAhya ruchime.n, isaliye prayatna nahI.n chalatA hai. nahI.n to apanA svabhAv hai. vah koI durlabh hai. svabhAv apanA hai aur bAhar bhaTakA rahatA hai, isaliye durlabh ho gayA hai. bAhar vibhAvame.n dauDA karatA hai anAdise, isaliye use a.ntarame.n AnA mushkil paDatA hai.

mumukShuH- hai saral, phir bhI mushkila.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, mushkil (hai). hai sahaj aur sulabh hai. ek bAr svaya.n apanI or jAy to sahaj hai. phir use bhavabhramaN TUTakar shuddhAtmAkI or hI usakI pariNati


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sahaj jhukatI jAtI hai. lekin use pratham bhUmikA vikaT hai. vibhAvame.nse svabhAvame.n AnA use durlabh ho paDA hai. svabhAv pragaT honeke bAd svabhAvame.nse svabhAv pragaT hotA hai. puruShArtha usI or usakA muDatA jAtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- .. jisane janma dhAraN kiyA use AyuShya pUrA hotA hai aur deh U ChUT jAtA hai. lekin aise guru mile, usakA sa.nskAr lekar jAy to vah jIv saphal hai. jIvaname.n dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA aur j~nAyak AtmAko pahichAnanekA abhyAs karanA vahI karane jaisA hai. bAkI ananta janma-maraN kiye usame.n aisA mArga batAnevAle guru is pa.nchamakAlame.n mile.

AtmA bhinna hai. a.ntarame.n svAnubhUti ho, AtmAkA Ananda koI alag hai, yah sab batAnevAle guru mile. usI mArga par chalane jaisA hai. satya to yah hai. (ananta) janma-maraN kiye, usame.n manuShyajanma kaise saphal ho? AtmAko andarase bhinna karake bhedaj~nAn karake usakA abhyAs kare, vah karane jaisA hai. mA.njIko to bahut vaShAkA (parichay hai). .. ho to sahI vaktame.n kAm AtA hai.

mumukShuH- ApakI tabiyat?

samAdhAnaH- ThIk hai, pahalese ThIk hai. .. usame.n is pa.nchamakAlame.n gurudev mile. gurudevane koI mArga batAyA. vah mArga a.ntarame.n hai. bAharame.n (nahI.n hai). a.ntarame.n mArga hai. jise mokSha prApta karanA ho to a.ntarame.nse milatA hai. bAharase nahI.n milatA. isaliye andar jo j~nAyak svabhAv hai, AtmA j~nAyak hai use pahichAnanekA prayatna karanA. usake liye vichAr, vA.nchan, shAstra abhyAs, dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA vah sab ek AtmAko pahichAnaneke liye hai.

ananta kAlase bahut janma-maraN hue. usame.n jIvane sachchA dharma kyA, vah nahI.n pahachAnA hai. yah sachchA dharma gurudevane batAyA. vah jIvaname.n karanA hai. vah kaise pahichAname.n Aye? usakA abhyAs bAra.nbAr, bAra.nbAr usakI ruchi, abhyAs, vichAr, shAstra abhyAs sab karanekA hai. andar vikalpa ho vah apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai. jaise siddha bhagavAn hai.n, vaisA AtmAkA svarUp hai.

jaise siddha bhagavAn hai.n, akele chaitanya AtmasvabhAvame.n virAjate hai.n, vaisA svabhAv svaya.nko kaise pragaT ho? aisI mahimA, aisI ruchi a.ntarame.n karane jaisI hai. AtmA andarase bhinna paDakar apanI nirvikalpa svAnubhUtiko kaise prApta kare, vah pragaT karane jaisA hai. apanA svabhAv apaneme.n-se pragaT hotA hai, bAharase kahI.nse nahI.n AtA. a.ntarame.n-se hI svaya.n hI svaya.nko khoj lenA hai aur vahI jIvaname.n karanA hai. sachamUch to vah karanekA hai.

... andarase ruchi rakhanI hai aur bAhya sAdhan,.. kShetra kitanA dUr... ye to jorAvaranagar


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hai na? unakA vyAkhyAn.. unakI vANI...

mumukShuH- unakI vANI bahut achChI lagatI thI.

samAdhAnaH- unakI vANI koI alag hI thI. AtmAko batAnevAlI vANI thI. vANI to chaitanyakA svarUp batAtI thI. a.ntarame.nse kuCh alag hI kahate the. ve bole utaneme.n to log tha.Nbh jAte the. karanekA vahI hai. Atmo koI alag hI padArtha hai. gurudevane batAyA hai.

padArtha koI apUrva hai. jagatame.n sab jAnA vah sab niShphal hai. prayojanabhUt ek AtmA hai. jagatame.n sArabhUt ho to ek AtmA hI sArabhUt hai. devalokakA bhav bhI ananta bAr milA. parantu ek chaitanya padArtha jIvane jAnA nahI.n. vah yathArtha prayojanabhUt hai. usakA vichAr karane jaisA hai, vah paDhane jaisA hai, vah sab karane jaisA hai. usakI mahimA karane jaisI hai.

... karake usakA abhyAs kiyA. gurudevane kahA vah kiyA to vah kuCh jIvaname.n saphal hai. bAkI sab to jagatame.n chalate rahatA hai. ek dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, tattvakA vichAr, vA.nchan, j~nAyak kaise pahichAname.n Aye, vah saba. usakA bhedaj~nAn vah sab karanekA prayAs kare to kuCh to jIvaname.n (saphalatA hai), yathArtha to bAdame.n pragaT hotA hai. parantu pahale usakI ruchi aur abhyAs kare to bhI saphal hai.

mumukShuH- .. kaise karanA?

samAdhAnaH- pratham to aisA hai ki j~nAn yathArtha karanA paDe. mArgako yathArtharUpase pahichAnanA paDe. to sAkShAtkAr ho. jo vastukA svabhAv hai, us svabhAvako yadi barAbar pahichAne to us svabhAvame.nse AtmAkI jo nirmalatAkI prApti ho vah svabhAvako pahichAnakar hotI hai. aise hI, svabhAvako pahichAne binA aise hI dhyAn kare to dhyAn kahA.N karanA aur kahA.N khaDA rahanA? isaliye sarva pratham svabhAvako pahichAnanA ki AtmA kaun hai? usakA svabhAv kyA hai? ye bAhar sharIr to paradravya hai. andar vibhAv, vikalpa hote hai.n, vah vikalpa bhI AtmAkA svabhAv nahI.n hai. AtmAkA svabhAv, jaise siddha bhagavAn hai.n aisA AtmAkA svabhAv hai. isaliye svabhAvako pahichAnanA.

AtmA jAnanevAlA j~nAyak hai. jo j~nAn hai usIme.nse j~nAn pragaT hotA hai. jisakA jo svabhAv ho, usame.nse pragaT hotA hai. vibhAvame.nse svabhAv nahI.n AtA, svabhAvame.nse svabhAv AtA hai. isaliye svabhAvako pahichAnanA. isaliye svabhAvako pahichAnanA. j~nAnasvarUp AtmA hai use barAbar pahichAnanA. vah dravya kaun hai? usake guN kyA hai? usakI paryAy kyA hai? pahale yathArtha j~nAn karanA. usakA prayojanabhUt j~nAn to pahale karanA paDe. bhale jyAdA shAstra na jAne, lekin mUl vastu-dravya kyA hai? mai.n kaun hU.N? merA


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kyA svabhAv hai? usako pahichAnanA. use pahichAnakar usakI yathArtha pratIt karanI. usakI yathArtha shraddhA (karanI). aisI shraddhA ho ki brahmAN phire to bhI usakI shraddhA na phire, utanI dR^iDh shraddhA honI chAhiye. phir usame.n lInatA kare to sAkShAtkAr ho. to vikalpa TUTe aur to use nirvikalpa dashA, sAkShAtkAr ho.

andar AtmAme.n apUrva Ananda bharA hai. AtmA anupam svarUp hai. parantu use pahichAne aur usame.n lInatA kare to ho. yathArtha j~nAnake binA yathArtha dhyAn ho nahI.n sakatA. isaliye pahale yathArtha j~nAn karake phir usakA dhyAn hotA hai.

mumukShuH- yathArtha j~nAn kaise prApta karanA?

samAdhAnaH- yathArtha j~nAn, jo mahApuruSh, satpuruSh kahate hai.n vah mArga kyA hai? mArga darshAte hai.n. satpuruSho.nkI vANI sunanI. usame.n kyA rahasya bharA hai, usakA vichAr karanA. to yathArtha j~nAn ho. shAstro.nme.n kyA AtA hai? gurudev virAjate the. unake koI apUrva vAkya, apUrva AtmAkA svarUp batAte the. usakA vichAr karanA. pahale vastu kyA hai, usakA vichAr karanA. tattva chi.ntavan karanA, AtmAkI mahimA karanI. bAharakI mahimA kam ho jAy aur a.ntar AtmAkI yadi mahimA Aye to us or jIvakA jhukAv hotA hai. bAhar kahI.n-kahI.n aTak jAy to vaise Atma sAkShAtkAr ho nahI.n sakatA.

a.ntar AtmAkI ruchi lage, usIkI lagan lage, bAra.nbAr usIkA manan, usakI lagan, usakA vichAr (kare) to Atma sAkShAtkAr ho. kShaN-kShaName.n yah merA svarUp nahI.n hai, mai.n to j~nAyak hU.N. mai.n to chaitanya hU.N. aise bAra.nbAr usakI pariNati honI chAhiye, bAra.nbAra. jo satpuruSh kahate hai.n, usakA bAra.nbAr vichAr karanA.

mumukShuH- kyo.nki hamArI bhagavat gItAme.n kahA hai ki AtmA ... ghAt nahI.n hotA. AtmA sharIr nahI.n hai, man nahI.n hai, buddhi nahI.n hai. bhinna-bhinna neti.. neti karake jo samajhAyA hai, aise Atmake svarUp parya.nt pahu.Nch sakate hai.n?

samAdhAnaH- pahu.Nch sakatA hai, AtmAke svarUp tak pahu.Nch sakatA hai. parantu pahale usakA vichAr kare, yathArtha nirNay kare, bAdame.n usame.n usakI yathArtha ekAgratA (hotI hai).

mumukShuH- vA.nchanase nirNay ho sakatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- vA.nchanake sAth vichAr karanA.

mumukShuH- svaya.n vichAr karanA?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, svaya.n vichAr karanA. jab tak svaya.n yathArtha samajhe nahI.n, tab tak satpuruSh kyA kahate hai.n, usakA vA.nchan kare. parantu vichAr svaya.nko karanA hai. nirNay svaya.nko karanA paDatA hai. svaya.n yathArtha nirNay karanA ki svabhAvame.nse hI svabhAv pragaT hotA hai. jo jisakA svabhAv hai, usIme.nse vah pragaT hotA hai. usakA jaisA bIj ho


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usame.nse vR^ikSha hotA hai. jis jAtakA bIj, vaisA vR^ikSha hotA hai. Amake bIjame.n-se AmakA vR^ikSha hotA hai. a.NkuDeke bIjame.nse a.NkuDA hI hotA hai. vaise AtmAkA svabhAv aisA hai, us svabhAvame.n j~nAn-vairAgyakA sI.nchan karanese, usame.n ekAgratA karanese usame.nse jo guN hai.n, vah pragaT hote hai.n. AtmAkA svarUp usame.nse pariNamit hotA hai-usame.nse pragaT hotA hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!