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mumukShuH- mumukShu sachche mArga par hai usakA chihna kyA hai?
samAdhAnaH- vah sachche mArga par hai, (usame.n aisA hotA hai ki), mujhe svarUp kaise pahachAname.n Aye? mai.n j~nAyak bhinna hU.N, yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahI.n hai, aisI a.ntarame.nse pratIt ho, ruchi ho, use pahachAnanekA prayatna kare, usakA vichAr kare, dev-guuru-shAstrakI mahimA aur AtmA kaise pahachAname.n Aye, aisI ruchi a.ntarame.nse rahe ki mujhe j~nAyakakI j~nAyakatA kaise pragaT ho? to vah satya mArga par hai. vah usakA lakShaN hai.
nij svabhAvako pahichAnaneke pa.nth par, mujhe svabhAvakI pahachAn kaise ho? aisI a.ntarame.nse gaharI jij~nAsA ho to vah yathArtha mArga par hai. bAhar kahI.n-kahI.n rukatA ho vah nahI.n parantu a.ntarame.nse mujhe Atma svabhAv kaise prApta ho? bhedaj~nAn kaise ho? us jAtakA vichAr, us jAtakA vA.nchan, us jAtakI tattvakI mahimA vah sab a.ntarame.n ho to vah satya mArga par hai. sachche dev-guru-shAstrako grahaN kiye ho.n, a.ntar jo svabhAvako batAye aise guru aur devako grahaN kiye ho.n, j~nAyakakI ruchi a.ntarame.n tIvrapane ho to vah satya mArga par hai.
mumukShuH- Ap j~nAyakakI bAt karate ho to mai.n mujhase gupta rahU.N vah bAt sahan nahI.n hotI. vah bAt hI koI gajab lagatI hai.
samAdhAnaH- svaya.n apanese gupta rahe vah ek AshcharyakI bAt hai. svaya.n hI hai aur svaya.n svaya.nko jAnatA nahI.n, vah koI AshcharyakI bAt hai. svaya.n apanI or dR^iShTi karatA nahI.n aur bAhar dR^iShTi karatA hai. svaya.n svaya.nko dekhatA nahI.n. anAdi kAlase vah ek Ashcharya hai ki svaya.nko jAnatA nahI.n. svaya.n svaya.nse gupta rahatA hai.
mumukShuH- virah lagatA hai phir bhI aisA kyo.n hotA hai? sahaj kyo.n nahI.n ho rahA hai?
samAdhAnaH- a.ntarame.nse kharI ugratA jAge to jAne binA rahe nahI.n. ugratA nahI.n hai, mandatA hai isaliye. utanI svaya.nkI mandatA hai. sachchA virah lage to svaya.n svaya.nse3 gupta rahe nahI.n. svaya.n jAne binA rahe hI nahI.n, apanI anubhUti hue binA rahe hI nahI.n.
mumukShuH- ashAtArUp bhAv hai?
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samAdhAnaH- ashAtArUp bhAv nahI.n, vah ek jAtakI bhAvanA hai, usakI ruchi hai.
mumukShuH- pUrvame.n AtmAAkA svarUp jAnA nahI.n hai isaliye gupta hai?
samAdhAnaH- AtmAkA svarUp jAnA nahI.n hai. guru batAte hai.n aur jAnA nahI.n hai. anAdise svaya.nkI or dR^iShTi hI nahI.n kI hai aur usakA prayatna nahI.n karatA hai. usakI ruchi jitanI chAhiye utanI karatA nahI.n, isaliye gupta hai.
mumukShuH- svaya.nkI pahachAn ho to j~nAnIko pahichAne?
samAdhAnaH- dono.n nimitta-upAdAn sAthame.n hI hai.n. vAstavik svaya.nko pahichAne to j~nAnIkI pahachAn ho. j~nAnIko pahachAne vah svaya.nko pahachAne. vah nimitta-upAdAn (sambandha hai). yathArtha pahachAnanA, jaisA vastukA svarUp hai vaisI j~nAnIkI dashA pahichAnanI, use pahichAne. dono.n vAstavikarUpase sAthame.n hai.n. aur svaya.n puruShArtha (kare). svaya.n apanese anajAnA hai to jisane vastukA svarUp jAnA hai use tU pahichAna. aise nimittakI orase aisA kahaneme.n Aye ki j~nAnIko tU pahachAn to to tujhe pahachAn pAyagA. isaliye j~nAnI usakA nimitta hai aur svaya.n upAdAn hai.
parantu vAstavik kab pahichAnA kahA jAy? j~nAnIko amuk lakShaN parase pahichAne. parantu svaya.n svaya.nko pahichAne to j~nAnIkI use barAbar pahichAn hotI hai. parantu barAbar pahichAnA kab kahA jAy? svaya.nko pahichAne aur j~nAnIko pahichAne, dono.n sAthame.n hI hai.
pahale amuk lakShaNo.nse j~nAnIko pahachAn le. j~nAnIkI vAstavik dashA to usakI utanI shakti nahI.n hai isaliye upAdAn-nimitta dono.nkA yog ho tab pahichAnatA hai. parantu amuk lakShaNo.nse pahale j~nAnIko pahichAne ki ye j~nAnI hai.n. aise pahachAnakar, phir jo mArga batAte hai.n, us mArgako jAnanekA svaya.n prayatna kare, antarame.n utAranekA prayatna kare. to j~nAnI usakA nimitta hote hai.n, upAdAn svaya.n hai.
gurudevako lakShaNase pahichAnakar, ye apUrva bAt karate hai.n. phir jo AtmAkA svarUp batAte hai.n, vah koI apUrva batAte hai.n. aise svaya.n apUrvatako grahaN kare, mArgako svaya.nke upAdAnase grahaN kare. phir vAstavik svarUp to svaya.nko pahichAne to j~nAnIkI pahachAn ho. aisA nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha hai. parantu pahale j~nAnIko lakShaN dvArA pahichAn le ki ye j~nAnI hI hai.n. jisakI sat jij~nAsA hotI hai, us jij~nAsuke, shrImad kahate hai.n na, usake hR^idayake netra hI aise ho jAte hai.n ki vah j~nAnIko pahichAn letA hai.
mumukShuH- kR^ipAludevane kahA hai ki j~nAnarUpI baDA van hai, jitanI tAkat ho utanI pahachAn ho to lAbh ho. aisA likhA hai. jitanI pahichAn ho utanA lAbh hai. pUrNa pahichAn ho to pUrNa lAbh hai.
samAdhAnaH- utanA lAbh hai, pUrNa lAbh hai. parantu amuk lakShaNase pahichAn le
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ki ye j~nAnI hai.n. phir unakI apUrvatA jAnakar svaya.n nij apUrva svarUp hai use jAnanekA prayatna kare. a.ntarase AtmAkA bhedaj~nAn karanekA prayatna kare. bhedaj~nAn ho aur svAnubhUti ho to yathArtha dashAko jAn sakate hai.n.
mumukShuH- vachanAmR^itame.n likhA hai ki j~nAnIko shubh hai vah kAle nAg jaisA dikhatA hai. jabaki j~nAnI hai.n vah to dR^iShTAbhAvase jo hai use sahaj dekhate hai.n. to aisA dekhanA to bahut nimna koTikI dashA ho gayI ho tab aisA dikhatA hai? achChI dashA ho to sahaj hI dR^iShTAbhAvase usakA sparsha nahI.n hotA. vAstavame.n to shubhakA sparsha hI nahI.n hotA. to vah vachan Apane kaise likhA hai? kis apekShAse?
samAdhAnaH- usakI j~nAtA-dR^iShTAkI dashA bhedaj~nAnakI hai ki ye vibhAv hai aur yah svabhAv hai. to use sahaj j~nAn hotA hai. j~nAyak j~nAyakarUpase use apanI pariNatime.n khaDA hai. ye bhinna hai aur mai.n bhinna hU.N. parantu alpa asthiratA hai use jAnatA hai, parantu usakI bhAvanA aisI ho ki mai.n svarUpame.n lIn ho jAU.N, pUrNa lIn kaise ho jAU.N, aisI bhAvanAke kAraN use vah kAlA nAg lagatA hai. aisI apekShA hai, us apekShAse (bAt hai). bAkI to use..
mumukShuH- dveShabuddhi jaisA to artha nahI.n hotA hai.
samAdhAnaH- dveShabuddhi nahI.n hai, vah to jAnatA hai, j~nAyak hai-j~nAtA hai. yah AtA hai usakA j~nAtA-dR^iShTA hai, parantu use bhAvanA to aisI rahe ki yah alpatA hai. munio.n jaise kShaN-kShaName.n svarUpame.n jam jAte hai.n a.ntarmuhUrta-a.ntarmuhUrtame.n, aisI dashA nahI.n hai. aisI dashA mujhe kab ho ki mai.n svarUpame.n lIn ho jAU.N? isaliye yah vibhAv hai vah AdaraNIy nahI.n hai. vah merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. us apekShAse (kahA hai). mujhe kab vItarAgadashA ho jAy aur mai.n shAshvat AtmAme.n rah jAU.N. itanA jo j~neyarUpase vibhAv j~nAt ho rahA hai, vah vibhAv mujhe na ho, mujhe pUrNa svabhAv ho. aisI usakI bhAvanA rahatI hai.
mumukShuH- ... tAratamyatAse bhAvame.n pharka paDanevAlA hI hai. dashA bahut achChI ho us vakta to kisIkA sparsha hI nahI.n hotA.
samAdhAnaH- vah to svAnubhUti nirvikalpa dashA ho us vakta to us or usakA upayog bhI nahI.n hai. svaya.n to nirvikalpa dashAme.n Anandame.n hai. parantu jab usakA upayog bAhar AtA hai, bhedaj~nAn ho, bAhar upayog Aye tab jAnatA hai ki itanI nyUnatA hai. isaliye vah nyUnatA hai, us nyUnatAko jAnatA hai. ataH pUrNatA kab ho, us apekShAse (aisI bhAvanA rahatI hai ki) yah vibhAvabhAv mujhe nahI.n chAhiye. itanA vibhAv bhI mujhe pusAtA nahI.n.
jaise A.Nkhame.n kaN nahI.n samAtA, vaise bhale dravyadR^iShTime.n pUrNa nirmal hoU.N, parantu paryAyame.n
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itanatI bhI kachAs mujhe nahI.n chAhiye. kAlA nAg arthAt vah mujhe AdaraNIy nahI.n hai, isaliye mai.n pUrNa ho jAu.N, aisI usakI ugra bhAvanA vartatI hai. nirvikalpa dashAke samay to us or upayog bhI nahI.n hai.
mumukShuH- hA.N, vah to bAhar Aneke bAd turantakI dashA bhI bahut achChI hotI hai.
samAdhAnaH- us vakta bhI use bhedaj~nAnakI hI dashA hotI hai. bAhar Aye to ekatvabuddhi hotI nahI.n. ekatva ho to-to usakI dashA hI na rahe. bhedaj~nAn, a.ntarame.n A.nshik shA.ntidhArA aur samAdhikI dhArA usakI vartatI rahatI hai. nirvikalpa dashAkI Ananda dashA ek alag bAt hai, parantu bAhar Aye to bhI shA.ntikI dhArA aur samAdhikI dhArA, j~nAyakadhArA vartatI hI hai. parantu alpa (vibhAv) hai to sahI, alpa bhI na ho to-to kevalaj~nAn (honA chAhiye). alpa hai, vah alpa bhI mujhe nahI.n chAhiye. itanA bhI mujhe nahI.n chAhiye. A.Nkhame.n rajakaN jitanA bhI nahI.n chAhiye. mai.n pUrNa ho jAU.N, isaliye kahatA hai ki vah kAlA nAg hai. mujhe yah kuCh nahI.n chAhiye.
mumukShuH- shabda kAlA nAg hai, isaliye kisIko aisA lage, aisA? kisIko aisA lage ki dveShabhAv hai?
samAdhAnaH- bhAvanA hai. vItarAgatAkI bhAvanA hai.
mumukShuH- j~nAnIko to Age-pIChe karanekI vR^itti nahI.n hotI, to aisA bhAv bhI kyo.n hotA hai?
samAdhAnaH- vItarAgatAkI bhAvanA to hotI hai na ki mai.n vItarAg kaise hoU.N? vItarAgatAkI bhAvanA hai. itanA rAg bhI mujhe nahI.n chAhiye. mujhe vItarAgatA pragaT hoo. kuCh na ho to use puruShArtha kaisA? to kR^itakR^itya ho gayA, to kevalaj~nAn ho jAya. usakI sAdhakakI dashA hai, puruShArthakI dhArA hai. isaliye mere puruShArthakI ugratA kaise ho, aisI bhAvanA hai. us bhAvanAke jorame.n kahatA hai ki yah kAlA nAg hai, yah mujhe nahI.n chAhiye. usakI AdaraNIy buddhi nahI.n hai, mujhe svabhAv hI AdaraNIy hai. mujhe svabhAv chAhiye, yah nahI.n chAhiye, itanA bhI nahI.n chAhiye.
bAhubalI muni aise dhyAname.n the, ChaThave.n-sAtave.n guNasthAname.n jhulate the. to unhe.n alpa vibhAv rahA ki mai.n bharatakI bhUmi par khaDA hU.N, utanA andar rahA to kevalaj~nAn nahI.n huA. arthAt j~nAnIko itanA rajakaN jitanA bhI mujhe nahI.n chAhiye. bAhar Aye taba. utanI bhAvanAkI ugratA hai. shA.ntikI dhArA hai, samAdhikI dhArA hai, sab hai, parantu itanA hai (vah bhI nahI.n chAhiye). puruShArtha hai, kevalaj~nAn nahI.n hai isaliye vah kahatA hai ki mujhe itanA bhI nahI.n chAhiye.
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mumukShuH- utpanna huyI bhAvanAko vah jAnatA hai ki karatA hai?
samAdhAnaH- bhAvanA use a.ntarame.nse hotI hai. svabhAv-or jisakI pariNati jhuk gayI, jise nirvikalpa dashA, svabhAvarUp pariNaman ho gayA use merI pUrNa pariNati kaise ho, aisI bhAvanA use Aye hI. jise svabhAv-or dR^iShTi gayI, use pUrNakI bhAvanA sAthame.n (hotI hI hai). mai.n pUrNa dravyase hU.N, parantu paryAyase abhI adhUrA hU.N. isaliye use pUrNatAkI bhAvanA andar AtI hI hai. shrImad kahate hai.n na ki "kyAre thaIshu.n bAhyAntar nirgrantha jo, sarva sambandhanu.n bandhan tIkShaN ChedIne, vicharashu.n kav mahat puruShane pa.nth jo.' aisI bhAvanA to AtI hI hai.
mumukShuH- yadi bhAvanA na ho to savikalpa puruShArtha hogA kaise?
samAdhAnaH- hA.N, to puruShArtha hI na rahe. bhAvanA to andar rahatI hai.
mumukShuH- kShaN-kShaName.n puruShArtha to chAlU hai.
samAdhAnaH- to sAdhakadashAkA puruShArtha kahA.N gayA? bhedaj~nAnakI dhArAkA puruShArtha, samAdhi-shAnti, j~nAyakatA, bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA kaise ugra ho? j~nAyakakI j~nAtAdhArA kaise ugra ho? aisI ugra ho ki jisame.n vibhAv ho hI nahI.n. aisI ugratA ho jAy, aisI bha bhAvanA rahatI hai.
mumukShuH- kShAyik samakitIke dhanI laDAIke maidAname.n talavAr lekar logo.nko kATate ho, usakA Ashcharya nahI.n lagatA?
samAdhAnaH- utanI usakI nyUnatA hai. bhAvanA to ugra hai. usakI nyUnatA hai. andar bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA vartatI hai, ekatvabuddhi nahI.n hai, alpa rAg hai, rAjakA rAg hai, isaliye vah laDAIke maidAname.n khaDA hai. phir bhI usakA vartan nyAyase hotA hai. parantu vah hotA hai. aisI bAharakI kriyA hotI hai. a.ntarakI pariNati,.. hAthIke dikhAneke dA.Nt alag aur a.ntarake alag hote hai.n. aisA lage ki kaise kar sakate ho.nge? laDAIme.n kaise khaDe rahate ho.nge? aise sa.nyogame.n A jAya.
mumukShuH- vAstavame.n to j~nAnI apane svabhAvame.n hI khaDe hai.n, bAhar kahA.N khaDe hI hai.n?
samAdhAnaH- svabhAvakI pariNatime.n svaya.n khaDe hai.n. bAhar.. samAdhAnaH- khaDe ho aisA logo.nko dikhe. samAdhAnaH- dikhe, alpa rAg hai, alpa rAg hai. phir bhAvanA ho to muni banakar chale jAte hai.n. aisA ho jAtA hai.
mumukShuH- mAtAjI! abhI to puruShArtha nahI.n uThatA hai.
samAdhAnaH- .. sab spaShTa karake batA diyA hai. sabako dR^iShTi to de dI hai. puruShArtha
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karanekA bAkI hai. puruShArtha, bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA to svaya.nko hI karanI hai. kahI.n kisIko bhUl na rahe itanA sUkShma-sUkShma karake pUrA mArga Akhir tak batA diyA hai. sharIr bhinna, vibhAv svabhAv terA nahI.n hai, shubhabhAv bhI terA svabhAv nahI.n hai. ye kShaNik paryAyo.nme.n tU aTakanA mata. tU to shAshvat hai. guNabhedake vikalpame.n (aTakanA mat). tereme.n ananta guN hai.n, terI svabhAv paryAy, usake bhedame.n bhI tU aTakanA mata. us vikalpake bhedame.n (mat aTakanA). jAnanA sabako, lekin dR^iShTi to ek akhaNDa par sthApit karanA. gurudevane to bahut spaShTa karake batAyA hai. ek akhaNDa chaitanya par dR^iShTi sthApit karake vibhAvakA bhedaj~nAn karake tU svabhAvame.n dR^iShTi sthApit karake usakI lInatA kara. usakA bhedaj~nAn kara. bAra.nbAr mai.n chaitanya hU.N, chaitanya hU.N, yah mai.n nahI.n hU.N, yah mai.n nahI.n hU.N, (aisA) a.ntarame.nse pratikShaN honA chAhiye. ek bAr karake ChoD diyA, aise nahI.n hotAA. usakI bhAvanA kare vah barAbar hai, parantu a.ntarame.n kShaN-kShaName.n svabhAvako pahichAnakar, jo vastu hai usakA svabhAv pahichAnakar tadagat pariNati ho, us rUp ho to usakA pratikShaN bhedaj~nAn karate- karate usakI bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA, j~nAtAdhArAkI ugratA ho to vikalpa ChUTe aur svAnubhUti ho.
yah jIvan vibhAvakA usakA kaisA sahaj ho gayA hai. sahaj vikalpa, sab sahaja. aise svabhAvakA jIvan sahaj honA chAhiye. mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, j~nAyak hU.N. aisI sahaj dhArA a.ntarame.nse ho to ho. aisI sahaj shA.ntikI, samAdhikI dhArA usakI sahaj honI chAhiye. to hotA hai. puruShArtha to svaya.nko hI karanA hai. svaya.n hI hai, koI anya nahI.n hai. svaya.nko hI karanA hai. usakA bhedaj~nAn kShaN-kShaName.n, kShaN-kShaName.n mai.n chaitanya hU.N, sab kArya karate hue koI bhI vikalpa Aye, vikalpa bhI mai.n nahI.n hU.N.
kShaN-kShaName.n vikalpa (chal jAye), phir yAd kare ki mai.n bhinna hU.N (aise nahI.n). jo vikalpa Aye usI kShaN aisA honA chAhiye ki mai.n j~nAyak hU.N. jis kShaN vikalpakI maujUdagI hai, usI kShaN j~nAyakakI maujUdagI, j~nAyakake astitvakI maujUdagI, usI kShaN puruShArtha, usI kShaN svaya.nkI maujUdagI ho aisI usakI sahaj dhArA to vah Age baDhe. ekatvabuddhi ho aur bAdame.n yAd kare to vah bAdame.n yAd kare aise nahI.n. kShaN-kShaName.n usI kShaN apanA astitva maujUd rakhe, aisI a.ntarase ugratA ho to Age baDhe. gurudevane mArga to ekadam spaShTa kiyA hai. aisA apUrva mArga batAyA hai.
mumukShuH- mokSha adhikArakA 180vA.n kalash hai. yah kalashaTIkA hai. kaTashaTIkAme.n bhAvArtha hai, usame.n likhate hai.n ki "bhAvArtha is prakAr hai ki karo.ntake bArabAr chAlU karanese pudagalavastu kAShTha Adi do khaNDa ho jAtA hai, usI prakAr bhedaj~nAn dvArA jIv-pudagalako bArabAr bhinna bhinna anubhav karanepar bhinna-bhinna ho jAte
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hai.n. isaliye bhedaj~nAn upAdey hai'. yahA.N merA mukhya prashna yah hai ki bArabAr bhinna- bhinna anubhav karanepar bhinna-bhinna ho jAte hai.n. bAra.nbAr bhinna-bhinna yAnI thoDA bhinna ho usakA use khyAl AtA hai? kyo.nki isame.n likhA hai ki bAra.nbAr bhinna-bhinna anubhav karanepara. bhinna-bhinna karake vah bArabAr anubhav karatA hai. usakA artha ki pahale, nirvikalpa samyagdarshan hone pUrva bhI use bhedaj~nAn hotA hai? kyo.nki yahA.N yah shabda paDA hai.
samAdhAnaH- bhAvArthame.n hai na?
mumukShuH- hA.N jI. mUl paDhU.N?
samAdhAnaH- hA.N, mUlame.n kyA hai? ... aisA kahate hai.n. jo bhedaj~nAn huA us bhedaj~nAnako bArabAr aise hI ugra rakhatA hai. bArabAr bhedaj~nAn, mai.n yah nahI.n hU.N aur yah nahI.n hU.N, aise tatkAl praj~nAChainIse bhedaj~nAn ho gayA ki mai.n yah chaitanya hU.N aur yah mai.n nahI.n hU.N. yah vibhAvabhAv mai.n nahI.n hU.N, parantu yah svabhAv mai.n hU.N. praj~nAChainIse bhedaj~nAn kiyA. usakI tIkShNatA karanese bArabAr usakI ugratA karanese. aisA kahate hai.n.
mumukShuH- arthAt vikalpAtmak use anubhavakA a.nsh pragaT hotA hai? vikalpAtmak vah aisA karatA rahe ki yah mai.n hU.N aur yah nahI hU.n.N, aisA?
samAdhAnaH- use bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA kahate hai.n. us bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA dvArA svAnubhUti hotI hai.
mumukShuH- bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA pragaT hotI hai?
samAdhAnaH- pahale bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA pragaT hotI hai, phir svAnubhUti hotI hai.
mumukShuH- vikalpAtmak bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA pragaT hotI hai aur usIme.n visheSh tIkShNatA..
samAdhAnaH- usame.n bArabAr tIkShNatA karanese svAnubhUti hotI hai. kisIko tatkAl ugratA ho jAy to shIghratAse ho jAtA hai. usI kShaNa. aur usakA abhyAs karanese, ugratA karanese svAnubhUti hotI hai.
mumukShuH- ...
samAdhAnaH- hA.N, mUl kalashame.n to praj~nAChainI arthAt svAnubhUtikI bAt lI hai. usame.n to svAnubhUti (lI hai). praj~nAChainIkI karo.nt dvArA, praj~nAChainI dvArA tatkAl bhed ho jAyagA aur usame.n tujhe svAnubhUti hogI. kalashame.n to aisA hI liyA hai ki tatkAl bhed honese tujhe tatkAl svAnubhUti ho jAyagI. parantu isame.n bAra.nbAr abhyAs arthAt usakI ugratA bAra.nbAr karanese tujhe svAnubhUti hogI, aisA kahanA chAhate hai.n. vikalpa hai, parantu vikalpa hai vah mai.n nahI.n hU.N, parantu mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, j~nAyak hU.N, aisI j~nAtAdhArAkI ugratA, usakI ugratA dvArA tujhe svAnubhUti hogI.
mumukShuH- us samay bhI use vikalpa spaShTa bhinna dikhatA hogA na?
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samAdhAnaH- hA.N, spaShTa bhinna dikhatA hai. bhinna dikhatA hai lekin upayog jo andar lIn honA chAhiye vah lInatA nahI.n hai. lInatAkI ugratA karanese tujhe vikalpa TUTakar nirvikalpa dashA hogI. usakI ugratA, bArabAr usakI usakI ugratA karanese vikalpa TUT jAyagA aur svAnubhUti hogI.
mumukShuH- tabatak vikalpAtmak bhedaj~nAn hai?
samAdhAnaH- hA.N, vikalpAtmak hai.
mumukShuH- tabatak vikalpAtmak bhedaj~nAn hai. anubhavapUrvakakA, thoDA anubhavapUrvakakA bhedaj~nAn hai aur vah svaya.n bhI..
samAdhAnaH- bhinna dekhatA hai lekin usakI ugratA nahI.n hai.
mumukShuH- ugratAke liye bArabAr vahI abhyAs karanese, ugratA honepar nirvikalpatA ho.
samAdhAnaH- phir nirvikalpatA hotI hai. aur lInatAkI ugratA hotI hai. j~nAyakakI ugratA karanese svAnubhUti hotI hai. hai to sahI, lekin nahI.n hai. bhinnatA to ho hI gayI hai, lekin usakI ugratA nahI.n hai.
mumukShuH- mAtra vikalpAtmak, buddhipUrvakakA vikalpAtmak nahI.n hai.
samAdhAnaH- nahI.n, buddhipUrvak nahI.n hai.
mumukShuH- rAgakI to bAt hI nahI.n hai.
samAdhAnaH- vah nahI.n hai. lekin usakI ugratA karaneko kahate hai.n. bArabAr usakI ugratA karanese, lInatA karanese svAnubhUti hotI hai. aur kitano.nko to ugratA, unho.nne kahA hai ki tatkShaN ho jAtI hai. use aisI ugratA a.ntarmuhUrtame.n ho jAtI hai ki shIghra svAnubhUti ho jAtI hai.
mumukShuH- kisIko samay bhI lage, la.nbA samay lage.
samAdhAnaH- hA.N, kisIko samay lage. usakI ugratA nahI.n hai. bAkI bhedaj~nAn, koI bhI sUkShma vikalpa athavA sthUl vikalpa, sabame.n bhedaj~nAn vartatA hai. use j~nAyak to bhinna hai, parantu use ugratAkI kShati hai.
mumukShuH- ugratAkI kShatike hisAbase nirvikalpatA parya.nt pahu.NchatA nahI.n hai.
samAdhAnaH- nirvikalpatA parya.nt pahu.NchA nahI.n. parantu samyagdarshan to tabhI kahaneme.n AtA hai, jab svAnubhUti ho, bAdamee.n jo sahaj dashA hotI hai use samyagdarshan kahate hai.n. nirvikalpa ho bAdame.n.
mumukShuH- usake pahale to nAm prApta hotA hI nahI.n na?
samAdhAnaH- nahI.n, usake pahale nAm prApta nahI.n hotA. vah to abhyAs hai, abhyAs hai.
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mumukShuH- nAm to nahI.n prApta hotA. pUrNa rUp jabatak na dekhe tabatak nAm kaisA? vah to A.nshik dekhA hai, pUrNa svarUp kahA.N dekhA hai? pUrNa to nirvikalpame.n hI dekhatA hai.
samAdhAnaH- nirvikalpa svAnubhUti nahI.n huI hai, tabatak samyagdarshan nahI.n hai. ye to savikalpa dhArAme.n bhedaj~nAn hai, parantu pahale thoDA aur bAdame.n adhik, aise nahI.n. bhedaj~nAn to ho gayA, parantu ugratA nahI.n hai.
mumukShuH- ugratA nahI.n hai. ye to astitvakA pratibhAs ho gayA. pratibhAsake jorame.n vah lInatA karegA.
samAdhAnaH- hA.N, lInatA nahI.n karatA hai aur upayog bAhar hai. upayog jo a.ntarame.n sthir honA chAhiye, bArabAr use lInatA karanekI kShati hai.
mumukShuH- parantu use pratibhAs to hai.
samAdhAnaH- hA.N, pratibhAs huA hai. pratIti hai, dR^iShTi hai, amuk prakArase pariNati bhI hai. amuk prakArase to bhedaj~nAn hai, parantu ugratA nahI.n hai.
mumukShuH- ugratA ho to nirvikalpatAme.n palaT jAya.
samAdhAnaH- to hI nirvikalpatA hotI hai.
mumukShuH- tIvra lInatA ho to..
samAdhAnaH- hA.N, to svAnubhUti hotI hai.