Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 21.

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samAdhAnaH- ... yahA.N bahut rahate the. karane jaisA yah ek hI hai. (pratikUl) sa.nyogame.n shA.nti rakhanI.

... j~nAyak kaise pahachAname.n Aye? bAhar shubhabhAvame.n dev, guru aur shAstra usake hR^idayame.n hone chAhiye aur andarame.n shuddhAtmA sarvase bhinna hai use pahachAne to yah karane jaisA hai. gurudevake pratApase, pIChese koI rog Aye to shA.nti (rakhe).

bAra.nbAr-bAra.nbAr andarame.n gaharAIme.n aisA ho ki AtmA hI grahaN karanA hai, AtmAke sivA aur kuCh nahI.n chAhiye. aisI a.ntarakI bhAvanA ho aur bAra.nbAr mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, aisI bhAvanA rahe. abhI yathArtha grahaN nahI.n huA hai, parantu bAra.nbAr usakA vichAr, usIke bAra.nbAr vichAr karatA rahe, usakA ma.nthan karatA rahe, laganI lagAye. aisA kare to andar sa.nskAr paDate hai.n. andarase gaharAIse ho to. Upar-Uparase ho to nahI.n paDate. andar gaharAIse (honA chAhiye).

mumukShuH- svaya.nko mAlUm paDatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- svaya.nko mAlUm paDe yA nahI.n paDe. gaharAIse ho to svaya.nko mAlUm paDe bhI aur nahI.n bhI paDe. mAlUm paDe hI aisA kuCh nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- svaya.nko ek hI lagan ho to hI paDe?

samAdhAnaH- to hI paDe. laganI andarakI gaharAIse honI chAhiye. dUsarA kuCh bhI ruche nahI.n, ek AtmA hI ruche. aise andarakI gaharAIse sa.nskAr ho to paDe, gaharI ruchi ho to paDate hai.n. andarase use ruchi jAgR^it ho jAtI hai. aise koI prasa.ng bane to use aisA lagatA hai ki, mujhe yah nahI.n chAhiye, mujhe kuCh aur chAhiye. mujhe AtmA chAhiye. aisI a.ntarase use sphuraNA hotI hai. a.ntarake gahare sa.nskAr ho to. aise koI prasa.ng dekhe, dev-guru-shAstrakA sAnnidhya prApta ho, use andarase sphuraNA ho ki mujhe yah chAhiye. andarase ruchi jAgR^it ho jAye. puruShArtha kare to hotA hai, lekin ruchi jAgR^it ho jAye.

AtA hai na? "krodhAdi taramyatA sarpAdikanI mA.nhi, pUrva janma sa.nskAr...' pUrvake sa.nskAr ho vah amuk bhavame.n sphurit ho jAte hai.n. amuk prakArakI jo svaya.nkI lAyakAt


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ho, vah svaya.n hI a.ntarase sphurit hotI hai. aise shubhabhAv ho, aisA puNya bandhe ki dev-guru-shAstrake sAnnidhyame.n (jAye). andarase svaya.nkI ruchi jAgR^it ho jAye ki mujhe to yahI chAhiye, mujhe aur kuCh nahI.n chAhiye.

mumukShuH- aisA sab honekA kAraN pUrvake sa.nskAr?

samAdhAnaH- pUrvake sa.nskAr (kAraN) hai. use dravyadR^iShTise nahI.n kahaneme.n AtA, lekin aise ek jAtake sa.nskAr paDate hai.n. amuk jAtake jo vibhAvake sa.nskAr chale A rahe hai.n, pUrvame.n jo hote hai.n, phirase jo bhav dhAraN kare usame.n us jAtake sa.nskAr, us jAtake shubhabhAv, kaShAy Adi sab hote hai.n, aisA dikhaname.n AtA hai. isaprakAr a.ntarame.n jo svaya.nkI ruchi ho, vah ruchi use jAgR^it honekA kAraN hotI hai. phir use baDhAneke liye svaya.nkA vartamAn puruShArtha kAm karatA hai. jyAdA kArya karaneke liye.

mumukShuH- vartamAname.n jise sukh hI nahI.n hai, use..

samAdhAnaH- kisIko pUrvake sa.nskAr ho to .. kisIko nahI.n bhI ho. vartamAn jIvakI aisI koI yogyatAke kAraN baiTh jAye. vaisI usakI yogyatA, koI prakArakI komalatA lekar AyA ho use baiTh jAtA hai. bAkI kisIko sa.nskAr hotA hai aur kisIko nahI.n bhI ho. sabhIko sa.nskAr hI ho, aisA nahI.n hotA. to-to jIvako pahalI bAr ho to use pahaleke sa.nskAr.. nigodame.nse nikalakar pahalI bAr hotA hai. sa.nskAr hI ho, aisA nahI.n hotA. lekin kisIko sa.nskAr hote hai.n, kisIko sa.nskAr nahI.n hote.

svaya.n vartamAname.n taiyArI kare ki mujhe AtmA hI chAhiye. bAra.nbAr usakA raTan, laganI, jij~nAsA, vichAr, usIke vichAr, vA.nchan AtmAke liye karatA ho. dhyey ek AtmAkA, AtmAkA prayojan hotA hai, dUsarA koI prayojan nahI.n hotA. bAharakA kisI bhI prakArakA prayojan nahI.n hai. sabakuCh AtmArthake liye hai. a.ntarase aisA ho to use sa.nskAr (paDate hai.n). usake AtmAko vahI ruche, vahI posAy, dUsarA kuCh a.ntarase nahI.n ruche, dUsarA kuCh posAtA nahI.n, aisA AtmAkA jIvan ho jAye ki dUsarA kuCh posAy nahI.n. ek satakI ruchi, ek sat AtmA kaise prApta ho? aisA use posAtA ho to use dUsare bhavame.n bhI vah sa.nskAr sphurit hue binA nahI.n rahate. aisA honA chAhiye. use vahI posAy, dUsarA kuCh nahI.n, dUsarA kuCh a.ntarame.n ruche nahI.n. a.ntarame.n us jAtakI ruchi aur laganI ho to vah sa.nskAr use rahate hai.n aur sphurAyamAn bhI hote hai.n.

mumukShuH- vah sa.nskAr sphure binA nahI.n rahe.

samAdhAnaH- sphure binA nahI.n rahate. sphure yAnI use aisA lage, kahI.n bhI ras nahI.n Aye. AtmAkI bAtame.n hI ras Aye. aisA a.ntarame.nse us jAtakA ho jAtA hai. sahaj hI svaya.n aisA raTan vah lekar AyA hai, ghUTan karake AyA hai.


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mumukShuH- ... nahI.n ho to sa.nskAr paDe to bhI use..

samAdhAnaH- to bhI achChA hai. samyagdarshan jitanA puruShArtha ho jAye to uttam hai, lekin nahI.n ho to usakI bAra.nbAr laganI lagAtA ho, usIkA raTan karatA ho, sa.nskAr paDe to bhI achChA hai. "tatprati prItichitten yen vArtApi hi shrutA.' vArtA bhI a.ntarakI prItise sunI hai to bhAvi nirvAN bhAjana.n. usame.n usakI a.ntarakI prIti, andarakI ruchi aur prIti hI kAm karatI hai. bhaviShyame.n vah use sphure binA nahI.n rahatI. pariNati pragaT hue binA nahI.n rahatI. a.ntarakI prItise bAt sunI hai aur apUrvatA lagI hai to a.ntarase lagI apUrvatA phir jAtI nahI.n. Aye binA nahI.n rahatI.

deshanAlabdhi hotI hai, vah use kahA.N.. hotA nahI.n. bhagavAnakI vANI yA gurudevakI vANI sunakar a.ntarame.nse koI apUrvatA lagI aur a.ntarame.nse AtmA kuCh alag hai aur ye kuCh alag hI kahate hai.n, aisI deshanA a.ntarame.n grahaN ho gayI to vah deshanA bhI kAm karatI hai, svaya.nko kuCh mAlUm nahI.n hotA. vah sab sa.nskAr hI kAm karate hai.n. dravyadR^iShTise use nahI.n kahaneme.n AtA, phir bhI nishchay-vyavahArakI sa.ndhi hai. vaise vah sa.nskAr bhI hai. deshanAlabdhi a.ntarame.n hotI hai, vah bhI pragaT hotI hai. us vakta use mAlUm nahI.n hotA, apragaTarUpase apUrvatA lagatI hai. a.ntarame.n jo pariNati muDI hai vah apragaT hai. ye kuCh alag apUrva hai. apUrvatAkA poShaN andarase ho gayA, vah use Aye binA nahI.n rahatA.

mumukShuH- sa.nskArase mithyAtva galatA hogA?

samAdhAnaH- mithyAtvakA ras, darshanamohanIy manda paDatA hai. darshanamohanIy to manda hai. lekin darshanamohanIy chalA nahI.n jAtA. vah to darshanamohanIyakI mandatA hai. mithyAtvakA ras manda paDatA hai. apanI orakI apUrvatA lagatI hai to. sachche dev-guru-shAstrako grahaN karatA hai to bhI darshanamohanIy manda hai. parantu andar AtmAkI apUrvatA lage, us pUrvak jo darshanamohanIy manda paDatA hai, vah alag rItase paDatA hai. jo jUThe dev-guru-shAstrako grahaN kare, usase to jo sachche dev-guru-shAstrako grahaN karatA hai, usakA darshanamohanIy manda hai. parantu andarase apUrvatA lagakar grahaN ho, vah darshanamohanIy alag prakArase (manda) paDatA hai. ab AtmAkI or hI muDegA.

mumukShuH- andarakI bhakti Adi ... karate hue, AtmAkI orake muDe jo sa.nskAr hai.n, usame.n mithyAtvakA jyAdA galanA hotA hai?

samAdhAnaH- vah alag prakArase (hotA hai). dev-guru-shAstrakI shraddhA bhI aisI ho, apUrva rItase ho to usame.n bhI darshanamohanIy alag rItase manda paDatA hai. dev-guru- shAstrakI shraddhA bhI use apUrva prakArase (hotI hai). ye guru kuCh alag kahate hai.n, dev


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kuCh (alag hai), shAstrame.n kuCh alag AtA hai, isaprakAr alag rItase grahaN huA to vah alag rItase hI hai. lekin rUDhigatarUpase grahaN huA ho vah alag hai. andar apUrva rItase dev-guru-shAstrakI shraddhA grahaN ho, apUrva rItase, to usame.n darshanamohanIy manda paDatA hai. ab, apanI or hI usakI pariNati AyegI, us prakArase manda paDatA hai.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! dev-guru-shAstrakI bhakti aur AtmAkI or vR^itti, usakA mel hai?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, mel hai. AtmAkI bhakti, j~nAyakakI bhakti use shubhabhAvame.n dev- guru-shAstrakI bhakti bhI sAthame.n hI hotI hai. dono.nkA mel hai. j~nAyakakI bhakti ho to dev-guru-shAstrakI bhakti nahI.n hotI, aisA nahI.n hotA. jise j~nAyakakI bhakti ho use dev-guru-shAstrakI bhakti, shubhabhAv hotA hai. ashubhabhAv ChUTakar, ashubhabhAvase shubhabhAvame.n AtA hai. ashubhabhAvakA nAsh nahI.n hotA. lekin vah shubhabhAvame.n khaDA rahatA hai. sAthame.n bhakti Aye binA nahI.n rahatI.

j~nAyakakI ruchi huyI. j~nAyakakI yathArtha shraddhA hotI hai use bhI dev-guru-shAstrakI bhakti (hotI hai). samyagdarshan ho, bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA pragaT ho, svAnubhUti ho to bhI use bAhar Aye tab dev-guru-shAstrakI bhakti hotI hai. to ruchi vAleko to hogI hI. muni hote hai.n, ChaThThe-sAtave.n guNasthAname.n jhulate hai.n, aise munirAj, jo bAra.nbAr svarUpame.n lIn hote hai.n, svAnubhUtime.n, ve bhI bAhar Aye to unhe.n bhI dev-guru-shAstrakI unakI bhUmikA anusAr bhakti hotI hai, unhe.n shubhabhAv hote hai.n. unhe.n pUjA Adi kArya nahI.n hote. paranta unhe.n shAstrakA vA.nchan, shAstra likhe, bhaktike stotra rache, aisI sab bhakti hotI hai. padmanandi AchAryane bhaktike stotra rache hai.n.

mumukShuH- sukhake liye mithyA prayatna karate hai.n, phir bhI sukhI nahI.n hote, usakA kyA upAy hai?

samAdhAnaH- sukhake liye mithyA prayatna karatA hai. sukh a.ntarame.n hai, bAhar nahI.n hai. bAhar DhU.nDhatA rahe, bAharase sukh nahI.n AtA. sukh to a.ntarame.n hai. gurudevane mArga batAyA ki jo tattva ho us tattvake andar sukh (hotA hai). sukh AtmAkA svabhAv hai, bAharase nahI.n milatA. sukhase bharA AtmA jAnane vAlA, sukhase bharA, Anandase bharA AtmA hai. AtmAko pahachAne to sukh prApta hotA hai. aur pahachAnaneke liye usake vichAr, vA.nchan Adi kare. andar laganI lagAye, jij~nAsA kare to AtmA pahachAname.n AtA hai. AtmA kaise pahachAname.n Aye, usakI a.ntarase laganI lagAnI chAhiye ki sukh kaise mile?

bAharase to ananta kAlase sukhake liye bahut vyartha prayatna kiyA, sukh milatA nahI.n. sukh jahA.N hai, vahA.N milatA hai. mR^ig vaname.n ghUmatA hai. usakI kastUrIse van sugandhit


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ho jAtA hai, lekin kastUrI to usake pAs hI hai. andar hai. aise AnandaguN svaya.nkA hai aur svaya.n bAhar DhU.nDhatA hai. svaya.nme.n Ananda bharA hai. a.ntar dR^iShTi kare to mile aisA hai. bhedaj~nAn kare ki yah sharIr bhinna hai aur Atmatattva bhinna hai. AtmAke dravya-guN- paryAy bhinna hai, sharIrake bhinna hai.n. andar vibhAv hotA hai vah sab AkUlatA hai, apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai. apanA svabhAv ek jAnane vAlA AtmA hai. us jAnane vAlekA svabhAv pahachAnakar andarase pahachAnanA chAhiye. usakA bhedaj~nAn karanA chAhiye. bhedaj~nAn karaneke liye a.ntarakI laganI lagAye, jij~nAsA lagAye, vichAr, vA.nchan (kare). jab tak nahI.n hotA tab tak vichAr, vA.nchan, dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA shubhabhAvame.n hotI hai. a.ntarame.n shuddhAtmAko pahachAnanekI laganI lagAye to vah pahachAnA jAye aisA hai. bAkI ananta kAlase janma-maraN kiye, bhavakA abhAv honekA yah ek hI upAy hai. AtmAko pahachAnanA, bhedaj~nAn karanA, andar laganI lagAnI, jij~nAsA lagAnI. usake liye vichAr, vA.nchan Adi karanA.

mumukShuH- ..lekin andarame.n jaisA honA chAhiye, chAhe kuCh bhI kare andarame.n ..

samAdhAnaH- vidhi to yahI hai, svaya.nko pahachAnanA, bhedaj~nAn karanA, vahI rIt hai. mArga to ek hI hai. parantu puruShArtha svaya.nko karanA hai. puruShArtha kare nahI.n to hotA nahI.n. kAraN de nahI.n to kArya kahA.N-se Aye? kAraN svaya.nko denA hai, puruShArthakI mandatA hai, Age jA nahI.n sakatA. andarakI gaharAIse ruchi lagAnI chAhiye, puruShArtha andarase tIvra karanA chAhiye, to hotA hai. puruShArthakI mandatA hai, bAhar dauDatA rahatA hai aur a.ntar dR^iShTi karatA nahI.n, to kahA.N-se ho? use din-rAt laganI laganI chAhiye. kahI.n chain nahI.n paDe. ek AtmA.. AtmAke sivA kuCh ruche nahI.n. aisI andarase laganI lage to svaya.nkI or puruShArtha kare to hotA hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!
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