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mumukShuH- .. mai.n j~nAyak hU.N aur j~nAnake bhedame.n is prakAr vichAr kare ki mai.n mere dvArA, mujhe jAnatA hU.N. pratham bhUmikAme.n aise vichAr a.ntar sanmukh honeke liye aise bhed bIchame.n Ate hai.n, aur usake bAd hI use anubhav yA nirNay..

samAdhAnaH- bIchame.n vichAr Aye. j~ney nimagnatAko ChoD de aur svaya.n j~nAyakakI or jAya. isaliye usame.n svaparaprakAshak merA svabhAv nahI.n hai, aisA nahI.n hai. usakA rAg toDatA hai. j~neyakI jo nimagnatA hai, us nimagnatAko toDakar usakA bhedaj~nAn karatA hai ki merA j~nAn bAhar nahI.n jAtA hai athavA merA j~nAn mujhe ChoDakar j~neyame.n Chinna- bhinna, khaNDa-khaNDa nahI.n ho jAtA hai. mai.n to mere j~nAnase, svaya.n merA astitva merese jIvit hU.N, mere astitvase rahanevAlA hU.N. isaliye merA j~nAn mujhe svaya.nko apanI or hI mere astitvame.n rahanevAlA merA j~nAn hai. aise.

mumukShuH- jisame.n ekatvapanA kiyA hai, us ekatvako..

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, ekatvapaneko toDatA hai. j~nAyak hI merA svabhAv hai. toDakar phir bAharakA j~nAn ho, shAstrame.n AtA hai na? ise nikAl do, nikAl do, aisA use nahI.n hotA. kyo.nki usame.n ekatvabuddhiko toDanI hai. ekatvabuddhi toDanI hai. ekatvabuddhi toDakar bhedaj~nAn karatA hai ki mai.n mere j~nAnako prakAshit karanevAlA svaya.n, mai.n svaya.n jyoti j~nAn prakAshamAn hU.N. aise apanI or muDatA hai. phir jo sahaj usame.n AtA hai usakA j~nAn karatA hai.

mumukShuH- j~nAnakI pariNati rAgake sAth ekamek ho gayI, ... to vah kaise bhinna paDe? usame.n shurUAt kaise karanI? bIchame.n kyA Aye? usake bAd kyA hotA hai? ....

samAdhAnaH- kyA? bIchame.n kyA Aye..?

mumukShuH- bhedaj~nAn karanekI shurUAt kaise karanI? bAdame.n kaise Age baDhanA?

samAdhAnaH- j~nAn hai use pahachAn lenA ki yah j~nAn hai aur yah rAg hai. rAg aur j~nAnakA lakShaN pahachAn lenA ki yah lakShaN j~nAnakA hai, yah lakShaN rAgakA hai. parantu pariNati ek ho rahI hai, use bhinna karaneke liye, yah j~nAnalakShaN hai vahI merA svabhAv hai aur vahI mujhe sukharUp hai. jo j~nAn hai vahI sukharUp hai, rAg hai vah

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sukharUp nahI.n hai, vah to vibhAv hai. aisI apanI pratIt yathArtha ho, usakI mahimA Aye to usame.nse bhinna honekA svaya.n prayatna kare. aisA vishvAs AnA chAhiye ki yah lakShaN j~nAnakA hI hai aur j~nAnalakShaN jo hai vahI mai.n hU.N. aur usIme.n shAnti hai, usIme.n sukh hai. aur bAhar is rAgame.n sukh aur shAnti nahI.n hai. aisA yadi use vishvAs Aye, pratIt Aye to vah bhinna paDanekA prayatna karatA hai.

yah sva so mai.n, yah par hai. yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. aur use usame.n sukhakA sukhakA vishvAs AnA chAhiye, use apane svabhAvakA vishvAs AnA chAhiye to bhinna paDe.

mumukShuH- vishvAsame.n samajhase vishvAs Aye aise?

samAdhAnaH- samajhapUrvak hI Aye na ki yah j~nAn jo hai vahI sukhakA kAraN hai, merA svabhAv ho vahI sukharUp ho. ye rAg koI sukharUp nahI.n hai. usakA vedan bhI AkulatArUp hotA hai. aur j~nAnakA vichAr kare to usakA vedan AkulatArUhap nahI.n hai. (rAg) AkulatArUp hai. aise pahale to vichArase nakkI kare. shurUAtame.n to use anubhav yA vedan hotA nahI.n. isaliye vichArase hI use nakkI karanekA rahatA hai.

lakShaN pahachAnakar vichAr karanekA, vichArase nakkI karanekA rahatA hai. ... vah lakShaN pUrA akhaNDa dravya hai. vah lakShaN mAtra paryAy tak sImit nahI.n, parantu pUrA dravya svataHsiddha akhaNDa tattva hU.N. aise use nirNay karanekA a.ntarame.n rahatA hai. jo dikhatA hai vah mAtra paryAy dikhatI hai, usake khyAlame.n AtI hai. parantu us parase pUre dravya par dR^iShTi karanI hai.

mumukShuH- lakShaNako bhinna karaneme.n hI takalIph paDatI hai. lakShaNako bhinna karaneme.n hI dikkat hotI hai. rAg aur j~nAn, ye dono.n..

samAdhAnaH- dono.n ekamek dikhate hai.n.

mumukShuH- jAnapanA vah j~nAna. aise vichArame.n to le sakate hai.n. parantu usase Age kuCh bhAvabhAsan jaisA ho, aisA kuCh nahI.n banatA.

samAdhAnaH- jAnapanA vah j~nAna. lekin jAnapanA mAtra nahI.n, jo jANakasvabhAv hI hai, jo jANakasvabhAv hai vah mai.n hU.N. aise svaya.n a.ntarame.n gaharAIme.n dR^iShTi kare to jANakasvabhAv hai vah mai.n hU.N. ye jaDasvabhAv kuCh jAnatA nahI.n. jAnanevAlA svabhAv hai vah mai.n hU.N. svabhAv par jAnA rahatA hai. mAtra jAnapanA nahI.n. jAnanevAlA hai, us par dR^iShTi karanI hai.

mumukShuH- aisA vichAr karanepar rAg ChUTakar paraj~neyase bhinna...

samAdhAnaH- sahaj hI bhinna paD jAtA hai. j~nAyak, jAnanevAlA j~nAyak hI j~nAnarUp pariNamatA hai. apane svabhAvarUp, j~nAyak hI j~nAnasvabhAvarUp pariNamit huA hai. aisA use lakShyame.n Aye, aisI pratIt ho, j~nAname.n lakShaNase barAbar pahachAne to rAgase aur j~neyo.nse

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sahaj hI bhinna paD jAtA hai. apanA astitva j~nAyakarUpame.n astitva grahaN ho to usame.n dUsarA jo hai vah sahaj hI bhinna paD jAtA hai. yah mai.n hU.N, isaliye ye mai.n nahI.n hU.N, usame.n sAthame.n A jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- vikalpAtmak dashAme.n jabatak aisI pratIti na ho, tabatak aisA gholan arthAt aise vichAr, yathArtha vichArame.n lenA?

samAdhAnaH- aise vichAr use gholaname.n chalate rahe, jabatak use j~nAyakakA astitva a.ntarame.n-se grahaN na ho, tabatak vichAr chalate rahe ki ye rAg mai.n nahI.n hU.N. merA svabhAv j~ney nahI.n hai, mai.n to j~nAnasvabhAv hU.N. aise vichAr chalate rahe. parantu bhinna kab paDe? apanA j~nAyakakA astitva grahaN ho to usakA bhedaj~nAn usame.n sahaj A jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- j~nAyak hI j~nAname.n j~nAt ho rahA hai, arthAt j~nAnakI paryAy jAnanerUp pariNamatI hai. vah jo Apane kahA na ki, usase paraj~neyase aur rAgase bhinna paDe aur apanA .. astitva usake khyAlame.n Ave, usake bAd utpAd-vyayako gauN karake sAmAnyako..

samAdhAnaH- sAmAnyako lakShyame.n le. .. pariNamanevAlA hU.N, par svabhAvarUp nahI.n. aise lakShyame.n liyA. mai.n sAmAnya dhruv anAdiananta j~nAyak hU.N, usame.n sAthame.n A jAtA hai. usame.n use kAlakI or dR^iShTi nahI.n karanI paDatI. kAlako khojane nahI.n paDatA. parantu ye jo astitva hai, vah astitva trikAl hai, aisI pratIti use usame.n sAth A jAtI hai.

sahaj svataHsiddha astitva aisA hI hotA hai ki jo trikAl hotA hI hai. sahaj astitva j~nAyakakA hai. vah kisIne banAyA huA kR^itrim nahI.n hai, sahaj astitva hai, anAdiananta hai.

mumukShuH- mai.n j~nAyak hI hU.N, aise to vibhAg karake parase bhinna paDanekA prayatna..

samAdhAnaH- j~nAyak j~nAnarUp pariNamatA hai. usakI vichArakI vidhime.n kuCh bhI Aye, parantu use ek j~nAyak grahaN karanA hai. vichAr-vidhime.n use kram paDe ki ye j~ney mai.n nahI.n hU.N. ye rAg mai.n nahI.n hU.N. phir prashasta bhAvakA guNabhed, usame.n vikalpa sAthame.n rahate hai. yah j~nAn, yah darshan, yah chAritra. athavA merA j~nAn hai vah pariNamatA hai, ye pararUp nahI.n pariNamatA. aise use guN-guNIkA bhed paDe, vichArakI vidhime.n vah Aye, usakA kram paDe, lekin grahaN ekako karanA hai. kisIko dravya-guN-paryAyarUpase Ate hai.n, kisIko utpAd-vyay-dhruvarUpase Aye, kisIko ye j~nAtA-j~nAn-j~ney aisA bhed karake Aye, aise kisI bhI prakArase, koI bhI shabda bhAShAme.n ho, parantu use mUl ekako grahaN karanekA hai.

j~neyase bhinna karanA, vibhAvase bhinna karanA, aur guNabhed, paryAyake bhed vah bhI vikalpa hai. usame.n vAstavik guNabhed yA paryAyabhed mUl vastume.n nahI.n hai. grahaN ekako karanA hai. kram use vichArakI vidhime.n us tarah Age-Age kram paDate hai.n. pahale sthUl hote-

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hote, sUkShma-sUkShma hotA jAtA hai. j~neyase bhinna paDA, vah sthUla. phir rAgase bhinna paDA, thoDA Age chalA to guNabhed, paryAyabhed, usase upayog sUkShma kiyA. usase sUkShma ek dravyako grahaN karanA vah hai.

mumukShuH- pahale dravya-paryAyarUp vastukA yathArtha svarUp savikalpa dashAme.n pratItirUp Aye aur phir mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, aisA pratItime.n Ave, aisA koI kram hai?

samAdhAnaH- use vichArakI vidhime.n aisA kram paDatA hai. j~nAyak hU.N, aise grahaN ho vah alag hai. vAstavame.n to vah grahaN karanekA hai. usake vichArakI vidhime.n aisA nakkI kare. shAstrame.n bhI AtA hai na ki pratham sudR^iShTi so vichAr kije bhinna. sUkShma sharIr bhinna jAne aur vikalpakI upAdhi bhinna jAne. subuddhikA vilAs bhinna jAne. vah kram AtA hai, lekin grahaN to ekako karanekA hai.

sachchA grahaN kiyA use kahe.n ki jo ekako grahaN kiyA vaha. upayog dhIre-dhIre sUkShma-sUkShma hotA jAtA hai, Age jAtA hai taba. j~nAyak grahaN ho to sab kram use ekasAth A jAtA hai. sthUl aur sUkShma. ekadam ho jAy, ekadam j~nAyak grahaN ho jAy, jaldI ho jAy..

mumukShuH- aisA bhI bane?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N.

mumukShuH- sIdhA j~nAyakako grahaN kare aur dUsarA j~nAn yathArtha ho jAya.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, ... ho jAya. use sAthame.n A jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- kisIko kam vichAraNA chale.

samAdhAnaH- kam vichAraNA chale. mai.n kaun hU.N? aisA vichAr karate-karate mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, aise grahaN ho jAya. to usame.n use vikalpake bhed, rAgase bhed sab ekasAth A jAtA hai. bhed so mai.n nahI.n hU.N, parantu mai.n ek akhaNDa dravya hU.N.

mumukShuH- pUrva sa.nskArakA kAraN banatA hogA?

samAdhAnaH- nahI.n, pUrva sa.nskAr nahI.n banatA. kisIkI vartamAn taiyArI ho to bane. chauthe kAlame.n aisA ban jAtA. ekadam grahaN ho jAya. is pa.nchamakAlame.n to durlabh hai. jise a.ntarmuhUrtame.n ho jAtA hai, use ekadam grahaN ho jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- Apako sahaj lagatA hai, aur hame.n bahut ulajhan hotI hai. koI bAr vichAr karate samay ulajhanakA anubhav ho, koI bAr aisA lage ki nahI.n, ye to sahaj hai. bAra.nbAr vahI prashna kaise pUChe?

samAdhAnaH- aisI nirAshA honekA koI kAraN nahI.n hai. bhAvanA ho, isaliye vah vichAr chalate rahe. bhAvanA ho isaliye prashna bhI Ate rahe. jabatak a.ntarame.n svaya.nko jij~nAsA

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ho aur kaise prayatna karanA, isaliye prashna Ate rahe.

mumukShuH- bhAvanAke prakaraNase hI anajAne hai.n. kitanA sundar prakaraN khul gayA hai.

samAdhAnaH- tabatak vah sab AtA hI rahe, vichAr, prayatna sab chalatA hI rahe. us din bolA gayA hogA, isaliye usame.n sab A gayA. gurudevake pratApase...

mumukShuH- pravachaname.n bolA gayA?

samAdhAnaH- vA.nchaname.n bol gayA ho, kisIne prashna pUChA ho, usame.n bolA gayA ho.

mumukShuH- rAgake atirikta dUsarA aisA kyA hai ki .. hone nahI.n detA? rAg to spaShTa samajhame.n AtA hai. dUsarI koI dashAme.n granthibhedakI koI nirmalatA nahI.n hai, usake pahale to rAgakI pradhAnatA to hai hI, aisA kaun-sA dUsarA tattva bhAvanAme.n hai ki jo bhAvanAko saphal karatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- bhAvanAke sAth rAg juDA hotA hai. parantu pariNati apanI or joradAr (hotI hai ki) ek AtmA hI chAhiye, dUsarA kuCh mujhe nahI.n chAhiye. vah bhAvanA andarase jor (karatI hai). pariNati, aisI yogyatA a.ntarame.nse jIvakI pragaT hotI hai. apane puruShArtha, ruchi us orakI jAgR^it hotI hai ki mujhe ye kuCh nahI.n chAhiye. usakI ruchi kahI.n TikatI nahI.n. ruchi ek AtmAkI or hI jAtI hai ki andar AtmAme.nse koI apUrvatA, a.ntarame.nse apUrva shAnti yA apUrva Ananda A jAya. AtmAme.nse kuCh a.ntarame.n- se pragaT ho. aisI apanI ruchi AtmAkI or jAtI hai. rAg hai, parantu rAgake sAth apanI bhAvanAkI aisI pariNati joradAr hotI hai.

mumukShuH- AtmA chAhiye, aise?

samAdhAnaH- AtmA hI chAhiye, dUsarA kuCh nahI.n chAhiye. a.ntarame.n-se AtmAkI koI apUrvatA prApta ho, ki jisake binA use kahI.n shAnti nahI.n hotI. use prApta hue binA rahe hI nahI.n. a.ntarame.n-se aisI bhAvanA jAgR^it huyI ho to.

mumukShuH- khAs pAtratAme.n... bahut sundar viShay AyA hai.

samAdhAnaH- apanI a.ntarame.n-se aisI pAtratA ho ki svaya.nko AtmA prApta hokar hI ChUTakArA ho. aisI pariNati apanI or, ruchikI pariNati aise muDatI hai. pariNati hI svaya.nko jorase khI.Nchakar AtmAkI or lAtI hai. ruchi hI svaya.nkI (aisI ho jAtI hai ki) use bAhar kahI.n shAnti nahI.n hotI. usakI pariNati hI joradAr svaya.nko pragaT hue binA rahatI hI nahI.n.

.. usame.n A gayA hai na ki to jagatako shUnya honA paDe. apanI pariNati hI svaya.nko pragaT hue binA rahe hI nahI.n. aisA kudaratakA svabhAv hai. pariNati hI svaya.nkI

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or lAtI hI hai. jagatako shUnya (honA paDe arthAt) apanA svabhAv kArya kiye binA rahe hI nahI.n. jagatako shUnya (honA paDe). to vastu hI na rahe, yadi svaya.n apanI pariNati pragaT na kare to.

mumukShuH- rAg hai, phir bhI rAg to vahA.N dekhatA nahI.n. samAdhAnaH- rAg dekhatA nahI.n. rAg sAthame.n Aye lekin rAg dekhatA nahI.n. rAg rahit vastu muje chAhiye. aisI bhAvanA hai. apanI pariNati a.ntarame.n-se svaya.n hI pragaT kiye binA rahe nahI.n. jagatako shUnya honA paDe. dravyakA nAsh ho jAya. lekin dravyakA nAsh to hotA hI nahI.n. svaya.n apanI pariNati pragaT kiye binA nahI.n rahatA.