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samAdhAnaH- .. tab aisA ho ki gurudevakA janma-divas Aye to kyA kare.n? jitanA kare.n utanA kam hai. bhagavAnake aur sabake janma kalyAN manAte hai.n. chait shukla- 13 AtI hai. vaise gurudev is pa.nchamakAlame.n janme, unakA janma-din bhI aisA hI ma.ngalakArI hai. sabako...

mumukShuH- AtA hai na? dravya ma.ngal, kShetra ma.ngal, kAl ma.ngala.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, dravya ma.ngal, kShetra ma.ngal, kAl ma.ngal, bhAv ma.ngal, sab ma.ngal hai. is pa.nchamakAlame.n bhAvi tIrtha.nkarakA dravya mAne jitanA kare.n utanA kam hai. aur is pa.nchamakAlame.n Akar vANIkI varShA barasAyI hai. bhagavAn jaisA kArya kiyA hai. nira.ntar vANI barasAyI hai. bhagavAnakI jaise niyamitarUpase vANI barasA karatI hai, vaise gurudevakI vANI barasatI rahatI thI. ... gurudevane mArgakA parivartan kiyA. vichAr karake yah sachchA lagA, isaliye hIrAbhAIke ba.ngaleme.n (parivartan kiyA).

mumukShuH- chAr dinake bAd chait shukla-13 hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N. .. svIkAr kiyA thA, lekin bAharase.

samAdhAnaH- .. us j~nAyak AtmAme.n sab bharapUr bharA hai. vahI mahimAva.nt hai. aise bAra.nbAr usakA abhyAs, usakA vichAr, chi.ntavan, manan (karate rahanA). bAharame.n to shrAvako.nko dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA hotI hai. a.ntarame.n chaitanya kaise pahachAname.n Aye, chaitanyakI mahimA, AtmAkI mahimA karane jaisI hai. usakA bhedaj~nAn kaise ho, usakA svabhAv kaise pahachAname.n Aye? j~nAyakasvarUp AtmAme.n hI shAnti bharI hai, usIme.n Ananda hai. bAharako sab vikalpa to AkulatArUp hai.

mumukShuH- shAnti hI lagatI hai.

samAdhAnaH- shAnti lage aisA hai.

mumukShuH- visheSh to bhedaj~nAn...

samAdhAnaH- bhedaj~nAnake binA to... yathArtha shAnti to bhedaj~nAn karake, nirvikalpa anubhav ho tab hI kharI shAnti, kharA Ananda to tabhI svAnubhUtime.n AtA hai. bAkI u pahale usakI shraddhA kare, bhedaj~nAn kare, pratIt kare. bhedaj~nAname.n A.nshik shAnti (lagatI

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hai). bAkI to svAnubhUtikI shAnti apUrva hai, vah Ananda apUrva hai. kharA Ananda to svAnubhUtime.n hai. bhedaj~nAname.n j~nAyakako bhinna kare to usame.n amuk prakArase shAnti hai. bAkI vikalpakI ekatvatA vah sab to AkulatA hai.

mumukShuH- dUsarA koI vikalpa na kare aur mai.n chaitanya hI hU.N, aisA kare to?

samAdhAnaH- vikalpa na kare to (aisA nahI.n hotA), vikalpa Aye binA rahate hI nahI.n. mai.n chaitanya hU.N, vah bhI ek shubhabhAvakA vikalpa hai. vikalpa na kare (aise nahI.n hotA). pahale vikalpa nahI.n ChUTate, vikalpase mai.n bhinna hU.N, aisI shraddhA-pahale to pratIt ho, pahale to bhedaj~nAn ho, bAdame.n vikalpa ChUTate hai.n. vikalpa na kare.n to? vikalpa to bIchame.n Ate hai.n. usakI kartAbuddhi toDanI hai. mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, mai.n koI vibhAvakA kartA nahI.n hU.N. mai.n chaitanya j~nAyak hU.N. parantu vibhAv pariNati to bIchame.n AtI hai. mai.n chaitanya hU.N, j~nAn hU.N, darshan hU.N, chAritra hU.N sab vikalpa hai.

mumukShuH- to phir andarakI shAnti nahI.n kahalAtI?

samAdhAnaH- andarakI shAnti kahalAtI. j~nAn hU.N, darshan hU.N, aise shubhabhAvake kAraN mandatA ho, AkulatA kam ho, isaliye usakI shAnti lage. parantu vah koI a.ntar svabhAvakI shAnti nahI.n hai. vikalpa manda hue, shubhabhAv kaShAy manda huA, shubhabhAvakA Ashray liyA isaliye shAnti lage. aprashastame.n-se prashastame.n AyA-dev-guru-shAstrame.n use shAnti lage aur a.ntarame.n jAy, shrutakA chi.ntavan kare ki mai.n j~nAn hU.N, darshan hU.N, chAritra hU.N, aise vichAr kare to bhI use shAnti lage. lekin vah shAnti svabhAvakI shAnti nahI.n hai.

svabhAvakI shAnti to bhedaj~nAn kare, yathArtha bhedaj~nAn kare, abhI to pahale shraddhA hotI hai, bhedaj~nAnakI pariNati yathArtha ho to usame.n shAnti ho. Ananda to vikalpa ChUTakar nirvikalpa ho, tab vah Ananda AtA hai. abhI to j~nAn, darshan, chAritra (Adi vikalpa) mishrit hai, vah koI nirvikalpa (dashA) nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- isame.n Ananda to AtA hai, bahut shAnti lagatI hai.

samAdhAnaH- vikalpa mishrit hai, shubhabhAvakA Ananda hai. prashasta bhAvakA Ananda hai. vah to bIchame.n Aye binA nahI.n rahatA. jabatak AtmAkI nirvikalpa shAnti, Ananda nahI.n AtA tabatak mai.n j~nAn hU.N, darshan hU.N, chAritra hU.N, aise vikalpa Aye binA nahI.n rahate. AchAryadev kahate hai.n ki mai.n Age jAnekA kahatA hU.N, vahA.N aTakaneko nahI.n kahate hai.n, use ChoDanekA nahI.n kahate hai.n, parantu tU Age baDha. terA svabhAv to vikalpa rahit nirvikalpa AnandasvarUp hai, aisA kahate hai.n.

mai.n j~nAn hU.N, darshan hU.N, chAritra hU.N, vah bIchame.n AtA hai. lekin vah koI mUl

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svabhAv nahI.n hai. bhinna chaitanya hU.N. akhaNDa chaitanya par dR^iShTiko sthApit karanI, bhedaj~nAnakA prayatna karanA, vah shAnti-svabhAvame.n-se shAnti (AnekA upAy hai). abhI shAnti usame.n pragaT nahI.n huyI hai, parantu usakA bhedaj~nAn karanA vah usakA upAy hai. ye sab vichAr to bIchame.n Ate hai.n-j~nAn hU.N, darshan hU.N, chAritra hU.N. lekin usame.n shAnti nahI.n mAn lenA. vah koI svabhAvakI shAnti nahI.n hai. vah to svabhAv pahachAnaneke liye bIchame.n AtA hai. lekin mai.n chaitanya hU.N, j~nAyak hU.N, aisI dR^iShTi karake yathArtha j~nAyakako grahaN karanekA prayatna kare. j~nAyak yathArthapane grahaN to bhedaj~nAn ho. j~nAyakako grahaN kare, bhedaj~nAnakA prayatna karanA, yathArtha shAnti pragaT karaneke liye. a.ntarame.nse sUkShma grahaN kare, AtmAkA svabhAv pahachAne to yathArtha shAnti ho. vah shAnti to vikalpa mishrit hai, vah vikalpa rahit shAnti nahI.n hai. prashasta bhAv hai.

mumukShuH- itanA kahA.N mAlUm paDatA hai, AtmAkI shAnti to...?

samAdhAnaH- kyA?

mumukShuH- chiDIyAko, me.nDhakako.

samAdhAnaH- use mAlUm paD jAtA hai. use j~nAn, darshan, chAritrake nAm bhI nahI.n Ate, nau tattvake nAm nahI.n Ate. lekin yah j~nAnasvabhAv mai.n, yah hU.N, aise use vichAr Ate hai.n. lekin vah samajhatA hai ki yah sab AkulatA hai, mai.n usase bhinna chaitanya hU.N. aise astitvako grahaN kar letA hai. use nAmakI jarUrat nahI.n paDatI, bhAv grahaN kar letA hai.

use kahI.n sukh nahI.n hai, aise koI bhAv use pragaT hote hai.n. ye sab AkulatA hai. vibhAvo.nkI AkulatA bhAsyamAn hokar, andarame.n-se aisA bhAvabhAsan ho jAtA hai ki mai.n kaun hU.N? aur yah sab kyA hai? merA svabhAv kyA? aur yah sab kyA hai? usame.n-se use svabhAv grahaN ho jAtA hai ki yah chaitanya mai.n hU.N aur yah mai.n nahI.n hU.N. aisA bhAvabhAsan ho jAtA hai. usame.n svaya.nko grahaN kar letA hai. sUkShma-sUkShma bhAv bhI AkulatArUp hai aur vikalpa rahit merA AtmA vahI shAnti aur Ananda hai, aisI pratIti aur aisA bhAvabhAsan ho jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- manuShyase usakI shakti jyAdA hai?

samAdhAnaH- shakti jyAdA nahI.n hai. use aise koI sa.nskAr (hote hai.n), pUrva bhavame.n sunA hotA hai, usame.n-se AtmA jAg uThatA hai. manuShyo.nkI shakti jyAdA hai, lekin jo puruShArtha kare use ho.

mumukShuH- bhAvabhAsana.

samAdhAnaH- bhAvabhAsan hotA hai. use pUrvake sa.nskAr (hote hai.n), sunA hotA hai,

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koI guruke pAs, koI devake pAs sunA hotA hai, usame.n-se use sa.nskAr jAg uThate hai.n.

mumukShuH- pahale sunA hotA hai?

samAdhAnaH- pahale sunA hotA hai.

mumukShuH- phir AyuShyakA bandha paD gayA ho, isaliye..

samAdhAnaH- isaliye tirya.nch ho jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- vahA.N phir aisA bhAv pragaT karatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- aisA bhAv pragaT kar letA hai.

mumukShuH- kisIko abhyAs karanekI shakti ho, aur kisIko kam ho, use ruchikA bhAv ho, to use pakaD sakatA hai na?

samAdhAnaH- abhyAs karanekI arthAt shrutaj~nAn kam ho, aise. kisIko shAstrakA kam ho lekin bhAvabhAsan ho jAy ki mai.n yah chaitanya hU.N. la.nbe samay abhyAs karanA paDe aisA nahI.n hotA, abhyAs karanekI shakti aise nahI.n, kisIko la.nbA samay abhyAs karanA na paDe, ekadam puruShArtha utpanna ho jAya. kisIko la.nbe samay tak abhyAs kare to hotA hai. kisIko ekadam puruShArtha (utpanna ho jAtA hai). manda-manda puruShArtha kare to la.nbe samay abhyAs kare. ekadam puruShArtha utpanna ho to alpa samayame.n ho jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- ekadam utpanna ho, usakA kAraN kyA?

samAdhAnaH- usakA kAraN svaya.nkI yogyatA. akAraN pAriNAmik dravya hai. chaitanyadravyakI aisI koI yogyatA use hotI hai ki use pragaT ho jAtA hai. kisIko andar..

samAdhAnaH- apanA puruShArtha kAraN hai. aisI svaya.nkI yogyatA, taiyArI apane kAraNase hai.

mumukShuH- Atmadharmame.n AyA ki kAraName.n, puruShArthame.n.. tIn-chAr kAraN hai.n na? to vahA.N kyA kAraN lenA? kAraName.n kuCh kachAs ho? puruShArthame.n kachAs hai? ruchime.n kachAs hai?

samAdhAnaH- use sabakI kachAs hai. Atmadharmame.n...

mumukShuH- andarame.n kAraN to trikAlI hai na?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, svaya.n svaya.nkA kAraN hai. use bAharake kAraN-kAl, svabhAv, svabhAv to apanA hai, kAlalabdhi hai usame.n puruShArtha sAthame.n hotA hI hai. sabame.n puruShArtha to sAthame.n hotA hI hai. apanA puruShArtha kAraN bane. kShayopasham-vaisA ughAD ho, vaisA kAl pak gayA ho, aur nij puruShArthakA kAraN banatA hai. puruShArtha to sabame.n hotA

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hI hai. puruShArthakI kachAsase sabame.n kachAs hai. tU taiyAr ho aur terA puruShArtha taiyAr ho to sab kAraN prApta ho jAte hai.n. koI kAraN bAkI nahI.n rahate. tere puruShArthakI kachAsase kachAs hai.

mai.n puruShArtha karu.N aur kAl pakA nahI.n hai, aur merA svabhAv nahI.n hai yA mujhe kuCh sunane nahI.n milA hai, deshanAlabdha nahI.n huyI hai, koI kAraN tujhe bAkI nahI.n rahe.nge. terA puruShArtha yadi jAgR^it huA hogA to usame.n sab kAraN tujhe prApta ho jAye.nge. aur yadi tere puruShArthakI kachAs hai to dUsare kAraN ho.nge to bhI puruShArthakI kachAs hogI to tujhe (prApta) nahI.n hogA. puruShArthakI kachAsase sab kachAs hai.

tujhe yadi a.ntarame.n-se karanA ho to tujhe deshanA nahI.n milI hai aur.. lekin mai.n kiye binA rahU.NgA hI nahI.n. (aiseme.n) deshanA prApta huyI hI hotI hai. jisake puruShArthakA utthAn huA ho use deshanA, kAl sab hotA hI hai. aisA puruShArthake sAth pratyek kAraNo.nkA sambandha hai.

mumukShuH- hame.n aisA hotA hai ki apane yah sab yog milA hai to AtmAkA to shIghratAse kar lenA hai. aur utanA puruShArtha utpanna nahI.n hotA hai.

samAdhAnaH- puruShArthakI kachAs utanI kachAs hai.

mumukShuH- ruchime.n bhI kachAs hai na?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, puruShArthakI kachAs to ruchime.n bhI kachAs hai. dono.n kachAs hai.

mumukShuH- andarame.n aisA hai ki chAhe jaise bhI, marakar bhI yahI karanA hai, dUsarA to kuCh nahI.n karanA hai.

samAdhAnaH- bhAvanA hotI hai, lekin vah kAryAnvit nahI.n hotI tabatak nahI.n hotA hai. chAhe jaise bhI karanA hai, lekin kAryAnvit nahI.n hotA hai.

mumukShuH- kAryAnvit nahI.n hotA hai, to phir bhAvanAkA phal kyA hai?

samAdhAnaH- bhAvanAme.n kachAs hai. bhAvanAkA phal nahI.n AtA hai, aisA nahI.n hai. chAhe jaise bhI karanA hai aur karatA nahI.n hai, apanI kachAs hai.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- apanI hI kachAs hai.

mumukShuH- to bhAvanAkA kyA huA?

samAdhAnaH- bhAvanAkA kyA huA? bhAvanA kachAsavAlI hai. bhAvanA kachAsavAlI hai. bhAvanA ugra ho to kArya hue binA rahe nahI.n.

mumukShuH- aisA hai hI.

samAdhAnaH- svaya.n aisA karatA rahA ki chAhe jaise bhI karanA hai, phir ChoD diyA.

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mumukShuH- ChoDato to nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- nahI.n, andar nira.ntar puruShArtha chAlU nahI.n rakhatA hai. thoDI derake ChoD diyA. phir thoDI derake bAd ugra ho, punaH ChoD diyA, manda ho jAy, tIvra ho jAy, manda ho jAy, tIvra ho jAy, ekasarIkhA puruShArtha to karatA nahI.n hai. ataH svaya.nkI bhAvanAme.n kachAs hai.

mumukShuH- ekasarIkhA kaise ho? j~nAyakakI dhUn lage?

samAdhAnaH- j~nAyakame.n karane jAy ki j~nAyak hU.N, j~nAyak hU.N, bhAvase kare phir punaH rUkhA ho jAy to bhI nahI.n hotA. aise vikalpase dhokhatA rahe to bhI nahI.n hotA.

mumukShuH- aisA..

samAdhAnaH- a.ntarame.n-se honA chAhiye to ho.

mumukShuH- a.ntarame.n-se kaise ho? bAt to bahut bAr hotI hai.

samAdhAnaH- ek bAr bhAvanAse kare ki bas, yah karanA hI hai. phir manda ho jAy aur phir dhokhanerUp ho jAy ki mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, j~nAyak hU.N. to aise nahI.n hotA.

mumukShuH- parantu mAtAjI! Apake charaName.n, gurudevake charaName.n baraso.nse rahanekII bhAvanA to yahI hai ki chAhe jitanI pratikUlatA paDe yah karanese hI lAbh hai, dUsarA koI lAbh nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- bhAvanA aisI ho, vah bAt sachchI hai. parantu andarase utanA svaya.nko karanA chAhiye. to ho. bhAvanA ho, parantu vah karatA nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- aisA bhI lagatA hai ki karanA chAhiye aur karanepar hI ChUTakArA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, karane chAhiye, aisA bhAv Aye. koI-koI bAr Aye ki karanA chAhiye, hotA nahI.n, aisA bhAv Aye, aur karatA nahI.n hai vah bAt bhI utanI hI satya hai. jitanI apanI kachAs hai, utanA hI la.nbA hotA hai. apanI mandatAse hI la.nbA hotA hai. koI kAraN use rokate nahI.n.

mumukShuH- phir aisA hotA hai ki..

samAdhAnaH- deshanA to itanI prApta huyI aur svabhAv apanA hI hai, puruShArtha kare aur kAlalabdhi paripakva na ho aisA banatA hI nahI.n. puruShArthakI kachAsako aur kAlalabdhi, dono.nko sambandha hai.

mumukShuH- aisA hotA hi itanA sunate hai.n, aur phir bAr-bAr mAtAjIke pUChe usame.n sharma AtI hai. mAtAjIne hame.n sab kah diyA hai, gurudevane bahut kahA hai. phir ham pUChate rahe.n, usame.n sharma AtI hai. to bhI pUChanekA man ho jAtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hotA nahI.n, isaliye kaise karanA? kaise karanA? aisA ho. mArga to

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ek hI hai.

mumukShuH- mA.Nke pAs Aye, bhUkh lagI ho to mA.N bhojan detI hI hai. vaise Ap hame.n itanA dete ho.n to aisA ho jAtA hai ki mAtAjIke pAs kuCh sun le.

samAdhAnaH- bhAvanA ho, lekin karanA svaya.nko hai.

mumukShuH- aisA yog mil?

samAdhAnaH- aisA yog is pa.nchamakAlame.n milanA mushkil hai. gurudevane itanA dhodh barasAyA. dR^iShTi kahA.N bAhar thI, usame.nse a.ntar dR^iShTi karavAyI. a.ntarame.n sab hai.

mumukShuH- chAr gatime.n, bhavabhramaName.n... mumukShuH- itaneme.n shAnti sa.ntoSh mAn le to bhI kArya rah jAtA hai. isaliye vAstavame.n andarase hI vIrya uChale aur kAm ho, to hI shAnti ho.

samAdhAnaH- kAraN svaya.nkA hI hai. bhAvanA aisI ho ki karanA hai, karanA hai. jo chAhiye vah milatA nahI.n, isaliye shAnti to lage nahI.n. jo vibhAv hai vah koI shAnti hai. aur shAntikI ichChA hai, shAnti milatI nahI.n. isaliye usakI bhAvanA aisI rahA kare, isaliye shAnti to.. jab a.ntarame.n-se pragaT ho tab shAnti ho.

lekin jisane aisA nakkI kiyA hai ki yah pragaT karanA hI hai, usakA puruShArtha use pahu.Nche binA rahegA nahI.n. use samay lage, parantu use grahaN kiye binA nahI.n rahegA. jise a.ntarame.n-se lagI hai ki yah grahaN karanA hI hai aur ise pragaT karanA hI hai. to vah dhIre-dhIre bhI puruShArtha uThatA hai, lekin use yadi lagI hI hai a.ntarame.n-se ki dUsarA kuCh nahI.n chAhiye aur yahI chAhiye to kAl lage, lekin vah pragaT kiye binA nahI.n rahegA. svaya.n hI hai, anya koI nahI.n hai. isaliye svaya.nko jo lagI hai, vah to pahu.NchegA hI, samay lage to bhI. a.ntarakI ruchi pragaT ho vah pahu.Nche binA rahatA hI nahI.n. bhale samay lage. lekin a.ntarame.n jise lagan lagI vah pahu.Nche binA nahI.n rahatA.

mumukShuH- jo samay lagatA hai vah ruchatA nahI.n.

samAdhAnaH- ruche hI nahI.n.

mumukShuH- itane sAlase yahA.N rahate hai.n aur itane sAlake bAd kAm ho jAnA chAhiye. kisIko shravaN hote hI prApta ho jAy, shAstro.nme.n kitane dR^iShTAnta Ate hai.n. aur bahut jIv, Ap jaise, gurudevake thoDe pravachan sunaneme.n ho gayA to hamane to kitane pravachan sune. itane sAl ho gaye, phir samay lage usakA duHkh lage, sharma lage. kabhI-kabhI aisA ho jAtA hai ki mAtAjIke pAs mai.n jAU.N kaise? mAtAjIko pUChu.N kaise? sharma lagatI hai. mAtAjIne to mujhe sab kah diyA hai. sarva prakArase, kitane prakArase gurudevane sab kahA hai, Apane bahut kahA hai.

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samAdhAnaH- bhAvanA hai na isaliye pUChanA ho jAtA hai. gurudevane to mArga batAyA hai. karanekA svaya.nko hai. gurudevane sab taiyAr karake diyA hai, svaya.nko ek puruShArtha karanAhI bAkI rahatA hai, kuCh khojanekA bAkI nahI.n rahatA ki kahA.N khojanA? kahA.N prApta karanA? jagatake jIvo.nko sat khojaneme.n dikkat hotI hai ki kyA sat hai? kyA AtmA? sukh kahA.N hai? AtmA kyA hai? sat khojanA mushkil ho jAtA hai. yahA.N to khojanekI koI dikkat nahI.n hai.

gurudevane khojakar, taiyAr karake, spaShTa kar-karake diyA hai. ek puruShArtha karanA vahI svaya.nko bAkI rahatA hai. khojakar diyA hai. bAhar dR^iShTi thI, bAhya kriyAme.n usame.n-se ChuDAkar, a.ntar vibhAv pariNAm hote hai.n vah terA svabhAv nahI.n hai. shubhabhAv sUkShmase sUkShma, U.Nchese U.NchA ho, vah bhI terA svabhAv nahI.n hai. tU andar shubhabhAvame.n bhedame.n ruke vah bhI terA mUl shAshvat svarUp nahI.n hai. tujhe a.ntarame.n ekadam dR^iShTi gaharAIme.n chalI jAy, utanA spaShTa karake (diyA hai). kahI.n khojanA na paDe, aisA batAyA hai.

jabaki jagatako jIvo.nko sat khojanA (paDatA hai), sat prApta nahI.n hotA, sat kahA.N khojanA? koI kahA.N pha.Ns jAtA hai aur koI kahA.N pha.Ns jAtA hai. kahI.n khojanA nahI.n hai. ek puruShArtha karanA (bAkI hai). taiyAr karake diyA hai. svaya.nko ek puruShArtha karanA hI bAkI rahatA hai.