Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 202.

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samAdhAnaH- .. aisI j~nAnakI mahimA hai. jo bhUtakAlame.n ban gayA use bhI jAnatA hai. pratyabhij~nAn, vah bhI jAne. vartamAn jAne, bhaviShyame.n jo (hogA), (abhI) pragaT nahI.n hai, use bhI jAne. j~nAnakI aisI mahimA hai. jo abhI pragaT nahI.n hai, use bhI j~nAn jAn sake, aisI j~nAnakI mahimA aisI hI hai. ananta-ananta bharA hai. svabhAv hI usakA nAm ki jisame.n maryAdA na ho. usakI dishA badalanI hai. usakI dR^iShTi badalanI hai. svasanmukh upayog kar, terI dR^iShTi badala. lekin use pratItame.n aisA nahI.n honA chAhiye ki, j~nAn itanA jAne aur itanA na jAne. j~nAn sab jAn sakatA hai. jo ananta kAlame.n banA use j~nAn jAn sakatA hai. bhaviShyame.n jo honevAlA hai, use bhI j~nAn jAnatA hai. jo abhI pragaT nahI.n hai, use bhI j~nAn jAne. aisI j~nAnakI mahimA ananta-ananta hai.

mumukShuH- j~nAname.n dishA badalanI mAne kyA?

samAdhAnaH- bAhar buddhi hai, usakA upayog bahirmukh hotA hai. usakA upayog bahirmukh hai, use svasanmukh kara. terI dR^iShTiko svame.n lA ki mai.n yah j~nAyak hU.N. mai.n parake sAth ekatvabuddhi karake j~ney-or jo dR^iShTi ho rahI hai ki j~ney aur mai.n donoe.n ek hai.n. usakI ekatA toDa. mai.n j~nAn hU.N aur vah j~ney hai. usakI ekatA toDa. terI dR^iShTi terI or lA ki mai.n chaitanya hU.N.

mai.n j~nAyak svaya.n j~nAyak hU.N. aise dR^iShTi badalanI. usakI j~ney-orakI ekatAbuddhi toDanI. ekatvabuddhi. parako jAnane-se parake astitva se merA astitva hai, aisI terI dR^iShTiko toDa. merA astitva svaya.n hai. svaya.n j~nAnase j~nAn hai. merA astitva svaya.n hai. j~neyakA mereme.n nAstitva hai. aise dR^iShTiko badala.

mumukShuH- vIrya shakti jo usIkA upayog hai na?

samAdhAnaH- j~nAnasvabhAvakA upayog hai.

mumukShuH- ananta vIrya jo hai..

samAdhAnaH- vIryaguN-puruShArtha guN alag hai, j~nAnaguN alag hai. j~nAnaguN alag aur vIryaguN alaga. usame.n bIchame.n vIrya A jAtA hai, j~nAnake sAtha. terA puruShArtha bAhar mat kar, a.ntarame.n kara. vah puuruShArtha hai.


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mumukShuH- vah vIryakA kAma.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, terA puruShArtha badala. puruShArtha terA bAhar hai, use a.ntarame.n lA.

mumukShuH- ... ananta kAlako jAnanA vah to svabhAv hI hai. usakI bAt karaneme.n kyA dikkat hai?

samAdhAnaH- bAt karaneme.n mAne?

mumukShuH- jAtismaraNaj~nAna.

samAdhAnaH- svabhAv hI hai. vah to dravya, kShetra, kAl, bhAvake sa.nyog anusAr bAt kI jAtI hai. bAtake sAth koI sambandha nahI.n hai. svabhAv hai isaliye bAt karanI chAhiye, nahI.n karanI chAhiye, usake sAth sambandha nahI.n hai. dravya, kShetra, kAl, bhAvake sa.nyogake sAth sambandha hai.

mumukShuH- gurudev aisA pharamAte the ki jAtismaraN hone par vairAgyame.n ugratA A jAtI thI, vah kaise?

samAdhAnaH- jIvane aise janma-maraN kiye hai.n. vah bAt smaraName.n Aye, vah vairAgyakA kAraN banatI hai. use pratItame.n ho, lekin jyAdA khyAlame.n Anepar vairAgyakA kAraN banatA hai. shAstro.nme.n bhI AtA hai ki, jAtismaraN vairAgyakA kAraN hotA hai. pravR^ittike kAraN dikhe to na bhI kahaneme.n Aye, use bAtake sAth sambandha nahI.n hai.

... anek kAraN Ate hai.n na? usame.n ek jAtismaraN bhI vairAgyakA kAraN AtA hai. samyagdarshan honeke kAraN Ate hai.n. dev, R^iddhi, jAtismaraN Adi AtA hai. jinabi.nb vah sab AtA hai. kisIko usame.n-se puruShArtha shurU ho jAtA hai. sab jIvakI yogyatA anek prakArakI hotI hai.

... dR^iDhatA honekA, pratIt honekA kAraN banatA hai. AtmA aise mukta hai. apanA astitva sadA nitya hI hai. anek janma-maraN karate-karate jIv svaya.n shAshvat nitya hI hai. shAshvat astitva hai. anek janma-maraN kiye, anek-anek prasa.ng bane. koI duHkhakA, koI anukUlatAkA, koI pratikUlatAkA. anek prasa.ng yAd Anepar use vairAgyakA kAraN banatA hai.

kisIko jAtismaraN honepar, anumati mA.NgatA hai, are..! mai.nne to sa.nsArame.n aisA bahut dekhA hai. aisA karake dIkShA letA hai. koI kahatA hai, ye devalokakI R^iddhi, aisA to mai.nne bahut dekhA hai. ye sa.nsAr hai. aisA narkakA duHkh, aisA devalok sab dekhakar vairAgya hotA hai.

mumukShuH- narkame.n to ananta duHkh hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- vah to sun na sake aise hai.n. jIv svaya.n ananta kAlame.n bhogakar


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AyA hai. phir bhI sun na sake aise hai.n. kumhArakI bhaTThIme.n jo agni lage usase anantagunI tApakI vedanA narkame.n hai. gurudev kahate the.

mumukShuH- kroD bhavame.n, kroD jIbhase...

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, kroD jIbhase aur kroD mukhase kah na sake aisA usakA duHkh hai. garamI, ThaNDI, bhUkh, pyAsake ananta duHkh jIvane sahan kiye hai.n. phir bhI jahA.N AyA sab vismR^it karate AyA hai. devalokame.n jIv ananta bAr gayA hai. anukUlatAme.n rahA hai. to bhI AtmAkA kuCh na kar sakA. vah bhI sukh nahI.n hai, AkulatA hai. devavokame.n. sukh ek AtmAme.n hI hai.

mumukShuH- jAtismaraN ho, mAtAjI! un bako vairAgya prApta ho, aisA hai?

samAdhAnaH- ho, vairAgya to hotA hai. jaisI usakI yogyatA ho vaisA ho.

samAdhAnaH- ... sab bolame.n vahI AtA hai. ... anyakA nAstitva hai. anAdise bhUl ho rahI hai. yA to anyake astitvame.n merA astitva athavA anyakA astitva mereme.n. athavA anyakA nAstitva kare to aisA kare ki apanA nAstitva kare. ye mereme.n nahI.n hai to apane guN bhI usame.n nahI.n letA. vah j~nAn aur j~ney mishra ho gayA. aise. dravya samajhaneme.n bhUl kI, kShetra samajhaneme.n, kAl samajhaneme.n, bhAv samajhaneme.n sabame.n bhUl hI kI hai.

apane guN samajhaneme.n bhUl kI hai. dUsarA meereme.n A gayA hai, use nikAl dU. ye sab to AkulatA lagatI hai. aisA karake apanA svabhAv nikAl detA hai. aise nikAlane jAy, nAstitva karane jAtA hai to sabakA nAstitva kar detA hai. aur astitva (mAnatA hai) dUsareme.n merA astitva (hai). sarva prakArase apanI hayAtIko kho baiThatA hai, mAno.n mai.n kuCh hU.N hI nahI.n. apane guNakA nAstitva kare, apane dravyakA nAstitva kare, apanI paryAy mAno.n anyame.n merI paryAy hotI hai. aise dUsareme.n merA astitva athavA merA nAstitva. mai.n dUsareme.n pravesh karatA athavA dUsarA mereme.n pravesh karatA hai. aisA hI karate rahatA hai.

satya samajhe ki mai.n mere dravyame.n (hU.N). merA dravya mujhase hI hai, merA astitva merese hI hai. anyakA mereme.n nAstitva hai. anyakA mereme.n pravesh nahI.n hai. mere guNakA astitva merese hai. mere guN anyame.n jAte nahI.n. mere guN j~neyame.n jAte nahI.n. j~ney mereme.n AtA nahI.n. anya j~neyo.nkA mereme.n nAstitva hai. j~neyo.nkA nAstitva honese usake sAth merA nAstitva nahI.n hotA hai. j~neyo.nkA mereme.n nAstitva, usakA matalab merA nAstitva usame.n nahI.n AtA. merA astitva mujhase aur merA parase nAstitva hai.

merI paryAy merese pariNamatI hai. dUsareke kAraN merA pariNaman nahI.n hotA hai. vah kahatA hai, dUsareke kAraN merA pariNaman hotA hai. dUsarA pariName usake sAth mai.n pariNamatA


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hU.N. aisA kitanA hI viparIt mAnatA hai.

mai.n sahaj j~nAnapu.nj AtmA Ananda svarUpase bharA huA hU.N. kShetra, merA ghar, mer svagharame.n rahanevAlA hU.N. paragharame.n rahanevAlA nahI.n hU.N. anyakA sthAn, anyakA rahanekA kShetra mereme.n pravesh nahI.n karatA. merA kShetra usame.n jAtA nahI.n. anyakA kShetra dekhakar, yah sab kala.nk hai, aise nikAlane jAtA hai to svaya.nko nikAl detA hai. aisI anek prakArase bAt hai. yadi apaneme.n-se dUsareko nikAlane jAtA hai to svaya.nko bhI nikAl detA hai. amuk kAlame.n pariNaman kare to us kAlame.n mai.n pariNamA to usI kShaN merA nAsh ho gayA. dUsarekI paryAy pariName to mai.n pariNamU.n aur merA nAsh ho jAya.

athavA aisA kahe ki usake Ala.nbanakAlame.n hI merA astitva hai. jab j~neyo.nkA Alamban ho to hI merA astitva hai. j~neyo.nkA Alamban lU.N to hI merA astitva Tike. to usakA Alamban letA hI rahatA hai. usake Alamban binA merA nAsh ho jAyagA. to Alamban leneme.n AkulatA-AkulatA karatA rahatA hai. j~ney.. j~ney.. j~ney.. mAno.n j~neyo.nke sAth ekatva (ho jAtA hai). j~neyo.nkA Alamban na ho to (mai.n kaise TikU.NgA)? merA j~nAn mere j~nAnase (hotA hai). mai.n svAvala.nbI hU.N. merA j~nAn svaya.n pariNamanevAlA hai. usakA-j~neyakA Alamban ho to hI merA j~nAn hai, aisA nahI.n hai. mai.n mere j~nAnase, svaya.n sahaj j~nAnakA pu.njasvarUp svataHsiddha hU.N. merA sahaj svataHsiddha j~nAnake pu.njasvarUp hU.N. aise merA astitva hai.

apane astitvako grahaN karatA hai. kevalaj~nAnI bhagavAn pragaTarUpase pariName. parantu mai.n merI shaktirUp hU.N, merA astitva mujhase hai. kArya hai to kAraN hai, aisA nahI.n. kAraN svaya.n svataHsiddha hai. parantu jAnaneke liye kArya par dR^iShTi karatA hai ki kArya aisA pragaT hotA hai. kAraN to sab a.ntarame.n paDe hai.n. kArya hai to kAraN hai, (aisA nahI.n), kAraN svataH hai. vah j~nAn karatA hai ki aisA kArya hai. mereme.n aisI shakti hai.n.

ek svataH asAdhAraN j~nAnaguN usame.n hai. us j~nAnaguNase use nakkI hotA hai ki aise ananta guN hai.n. aisA asAdhAraN j~nAnaguN jIvame.n hai. usase vah apanA astitva grahaN kar sakatA hai. jo dravya ho, vah ananta shaktiva.nt ho. mereme.n aisI ananta shakti bharI hai. aise j~nAn to asAdhAraN (hai), isaliye vah pragaT honese use khyAlame.n Aye aisA hai. usake alAvA dUsare ananta guN jIvame.n haiai.n. ananta shaktise bharapUr mai.n bharA hU.N. svaya.n apanI pratIt kar sakatA hai.

mUl bhUl apanI astitva grahaN karaneme.n hotI hai. astitva aur nAstitvame.n bhUl karatA hai. dravyase, kShetrase, kAlase, bhAvase. guNakA astitva merese, j~nAnakA astitva merese, j~neyase nahI.n. aise anek prakArase syAdvAdI hai vah yathArtha jAnatA hai. use bhedaj~nAn yathArtha


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hotA hai. merI vastu svaya.n hai. merA kShetra mereme.n hai. mai.n svaya.n mere gharame.n rahanevAlA hU.N. mai.n mere j~nAnaguNarUp pariNamanevAlA hU.N. j~ney j~nAt jarUr hotA hai, parantu mai.n mere j~nAnase pariNamanevAlA hU.N, j~neyase pariNamanevAlA nahI.n hU.N. j~neyake kAraN pariNamanevAlA nahI.n hU.N. j~ney pariName to mai.n pariNamU.n aisA nahI.n hai. athavA j~neyakA Alamban lU.N to pariNamu.n, aisA nahI.n hai. mai.n svaya.n mere j~nAnase pariNamanevAlA hU.N. mai.n svaya.n mere j~nAnase pariNamanevAlA, mere guN svataHsiddha hai.n. merI paryAye.n, j~nAnakA pariNaman hokar paryAy hotI hai. j~ney pariNaman karake paryAy nahI.n AtI hai, merA j~nAn pariNaman karake paryAy AtI hai. parantu usame.n j~nAt hotA hai, j~neyo.nkA svarUp j~nAt hai, parantu merA j~nAn pariNaman karake vah paryAy AtI hai.

j~ney pariNaman karake mereme.n paryAy nahI.n AtI hai, j~neyakI paryAy j~neyame.n hai. mere j~nAnakI paryAy mereme.n hai. j~nAn pariNaman karake paryAy AtI hai. parantu usame.n j~nAn j~neyako jAnatA hai. pariNamanevAlA mai.n hU.N. (j~nAn) sva-par dono.nkA hotA hai, parantu j~nAn svaya.n pariNaman karake vah paryAy AtI hai. j~ney pariNaman karake mereme.n paryAy nahI.n AtI hai, mai.n svaya.n pariNamatA hU.N.

.. bhAvarUp pariNamanevAlA hU.N. mere bhAv mujhase hote hai.n. .. apanI achi.ntya shaktikI mahimA hai. aise bhedaj~nAnarUp pariNamanevAlA hU.N. mai.n ek svarUp rahanevAlA hU.N. anekarUp honevAlA nahI.n hU.N. anek j~neyo.nko paryAy j~nAt ho, paryAyakI apekShAse mereme.n anekatA hotI hai, bAkI mai.n svabhAvase to ek hU.N. paryAyakI anekatAme.n mai.n pUrA khaNDa-khaNDa nahI.n ho jAtA hU.N. vah to paryAy hai, vastu svarUpase mai.n ek hU.N.

aisA yathArtha j~nAn ho svarUpame.n, svaya.nko grahaN ho, aisI bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA ho to use svAnubhUtikI paryAy pragaT ho. j~nAn pariNaman karake paryAy AtI hai. lekin usame.n j~nAt hotA hai, sva-par dono.n j~ney j~nAt hote hai.n. sva aur para. lekin j~nAn pariNaman karake paryAy AtI hai. j~ney pariNaman karake mereme.n paryAy nahI.n AtI hai.

.. j~neyakA jAnapanA hotA hai, parantu pariNaman j~nAnakA hai. jAnapanA j~neyako jAnatA hai, parantu pariNaman j~nAnakA hai. jAnapanA hotA hai. jAnapanA apanA. svakA, parakA jAnapanA hai, parantu pariNaman j~nAnakA hai. mai.n mere j~nAnarUp pariNamatA hU.N. aisA jAnanA hotA hai. svaparaprakAshak paryAy (hotI hai). pariNaman dUsarekA nahI.n hai, pariNaman merA hai. jAnapanA svaparaprakAshak hai.

.. paryAye.n huyI, usame.n j~nAnane kyA jAnA? sva-par dono.nkA svarUp hai. Chadmasthako ek jagah upayog ho vah (jAne), pragaT upayogAtmarUpase to vah aisA jAne. labdhame.n use sab jAnapanA hotA hai. pragaTapane jahA.N upayog ho vah jAnatA hai. Chadmastha. kevalaj~nAnI


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ekasAth dono.n jAnate hai.n-svapara.

sAdhakadashA hai aur bhedaj~nAnakI pariNati hai. usakI pariNati-j~nAnakI pariNati to yah mai.n hU.N aur yah par hai, mai.n aur par, mai.n aur par, aisI j~nAnakI pariNati to chAlU hI hai. labdhAtmak j~nAn yAnI vah jo anAdikA kShayopasham, amuk ughAD hai vah nahI.n. parantu use to pragaT huA hai labdha aur upayogAtmaka. pragaT bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA, labdha bhI pragaT hai. vah kahI.n anAdikA labdha hotA hai aisA labdha nahI.n hai. anAdikA shaktirUp athavA amuk kShayopasham jIvako pragaT ho, phir thoDA upayog aur phir thoDA labdha rahA kare, vah nahI.n.

yah labdha to pragaT hokar labdha huA hai. upayogAtmak j~nAn anya-anya j~neyame.n jAya. pragaT hokar labdha huA. aisI j~nAnakI svaparaprakAshakakI pariNati hai. yah mai.n aur yah par, yah mai.n aur yah par, aisI j~nAnakI pariNatikI dhArA sahaj (chalatI hai). bhedaj~nAnakI pariNatikI dhArA vah A.nshik svaparaprakAshak hai. bhale upayogAtmak nahI.n hai, parantu labdhAtmak bhedaj~nAnakI pariNatime.n svaparapanA A hI jAtA hai. bhedaj~nAnakI pariNatime.n yah mai.n aur yah par, yah mai.n hU.N, yah nahI.n hU.N, yah hU.N, yah nahI.n, aisI bhedaj~nAnakI pariNatikI dhArA chalatI hI rahatI hai. vah pariNati hai. labdha hai vah... bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA, vedanarUp pariNati hotI hai. svAnubhUti nahI.n, parantu use bhedaj~nAnakA amuk prakArakI shakti pragaT huyI hai. bhedaj~nAnakI pariNatikI vah shakti hai. amuk shAntikI dhArA pragaT huyI hai. usame.n sAthame.n svaparaprakAshak j~nAn pariNatirUpase A jAtA hai.

kevalaj~nAnI kahA.N upayog nahI.n rakhate hai.n. pariNatirUpase j~nAn unakA sahaj ho gayA hai, pariNatirUp ho gayA hai. ekake bAd ek upayog nahI.n rakhanA paDatA. sahaj upayogAtmak ho gayA hai. ekasarIkhA upayog ho gayA hai. gurudev koI apekShAse use pariNati kahate the. kyo.nki ekake bAd ek upayogakA kram nahI.n hai. pariNatirUp ho gayA hai. kevalaj~nAn akram (hai).

.. bhedaj~nAnakI pariNati hai. bhedaj~nAnakI pariNatime.n kyA jAnA? sva aur par dono.n. bhedaj~nAnakI pariNatime.n sva-par dono.n Chadmasthako A jAtA hai. upayogAtmak bhale ekake bAd ek jAne. pariNati ek or paDI hai aisA nahI.n hai, kArya karatI hai usakI pariNati. jisakA koI vedan nahI.n hai (aisA nahI.n hai). usakA khyAl nahI.n AtA ki amuk kShayopasham khulA hai aur thoDA labdha aur thoDA upayog hai, aisA nahI.n hai. usakA to use vedan nahI.n hai. ye to usakA vedan hai. bhedaj~nAnakI pariNati hai.

... yah mai.n hU.N aur yah nahI.n hU.N, yah mai.n hU.N aur yah nahI.n hU.N. ughAD usakA kArya karatA hai. aisA usakA ughAD hai. kShaN-kShaName.n sahaj hai. isaliye kahate hai.n, A.nshikarUpase


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usakA svaparaprakAshakapanA chAlU ho gayA hai. kevalaj~nAnI to lokAlok (jAnate hai.n). ye to use svaya.nkA apane liye svaparaprakAshak chAlU ho gayA hai. usake vedaname.n vibhAv- svabhAvakA bhed karatA rahatA hai. guNabhed, vibhAv sabakA j~nAn karatA rahatA hai. svabhAv aur vibhAvakA to bhed karatA hai ki yah mai.n aur yah par, yah mai.n aur yah par, aisA karatA rahatA hai.

.. pratyakSha j~nAn ho jAtA hai. ye usake vedaname.n thA, use pratyakSha j~nAn ho jAtA hai. svaparaprakAshaka. prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!