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mumukShuH- .. bhAvabhAsan use pahale karanA chAhiye, us par ApakA vajan jyAdA hotA hai. us bhAvabhAsaname.n ye jAnatA hai vah mai.n, ye jAnatA hai, jAnanevAlA hai vah mai.n hU.N, aise anek prakArase yuktise vichAr karate hai.n. bhAvabhAsan arthAt j~nAnake vedanarUp AnA chAhiye (vah nahI.n AtI hai). aise anumAn lagatA hai. aj~nAnIko to anumAn j~nAn hai, anubhav j~nAn to hai nahI.n. anumAn j~nAname.n to is prakAr vichAr hotA hai ki ye jAnatA hai vah mai.n hU.N. athavA ye sab kisame.n j~nAt hotA hai? kisakI sattAme.n j~nAt hotA hai? us prakArase j~nAnasattAkA vichAr karake trikAlI j~nAnasattAko pakaDe vah barAbar hai yA usame.n kuCh j~nAnakA vedan AnA chAhiye? j~nAnakA vedan j~nAname.n pakaDame.n Aye, usake bAd andar jA sake, aisA kuCh hai?

samAdhAnaH- yuktise nirNay karatA hai ki ye jAnanevAlA hai vah mai.n hU.N. vah abhI use amuk prakArase nirNay huA hai ki ye jAnanevAlA hai vah mai.n hU.N. j~nAyakakI asti hai vah mai.n hU.N, vah nirNay huA hai. parantu Age jAneke liye a.ntarame.n j~nAyak jo j~nAyakarUp pariNamatA hai, jAnanevAlA, vah jAnanevAlA jAnanarUp hI hai, aisA usakA astitva use a.ntarame.nse (honA chAhiye), aisA bhAvabhAsan use a.ntarase honA chAhiye.

pahale to yuktise nakkI karatA hai ki yah jAnanevAlA hai vah mai.n hU.N. vibhAv hai vah merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. mai.n vikalpa rahit nirvikalpa tattva hU.N. (aisA) buddhise nirNay kiyA parantu a.ntarame.n-se use bhAvabhAsan, jaise Age baDhe vaise AnA chAhiye ki jo vikalpa rahit j~nAyak hai, vahI mai.n hU.N. aisA a.ntarame.n-se usakA astitva grahaN honA chAhiye.

aur astitva grahaN honeke bAd vah a.ntarame.n TikanA chAhiye. andar astitva jo grahaN huA use TikAkar, phir kShaN-kShaName.n yah jo mai.n hU.N, vahI mai.n hU.N aur yah nahI.n hU.N, aisA bhAvabhAsan andar Tike, usakI dR^iDhatA rahe, bAra.nbAr kShaN-kShaName.n j~nAyakakA astitva hai vahI mai.n hU.N, yah mai.n nahI.n hU.N, aisA use Tike aur usakI dR^iDhatA aur usakI ugratA ho to vah Age jAtA hai. mAtra vikalpase nirNay karake ChUT jAy, utanA hI nahI.n, parantu a.ntarame.n-se jAnanevAlA so mai.n, aisA astitva grahaN kare. use a.ntarame.n TikAye.

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mumukShuH- TikAnekA artha?

samAdhAnaH- use j~nAyakakA j~nAyakarUp vedan arthAt svAnubhUti nahI.n, parantu mai.n j~nAyak hI hU.N, aisI a.ntarame.n-se dR^iDhatA, j~nAyak grahaN hokar aisI dR^iDhatA a.ntarame.n-se AnI chAhiye. ye sharIr aur ye vibhAv, vibhAvakA vikalpakA vedan ho vah nahI.n, parantu j~nAyak j~nAyakarUp hai. us j~nAyakakI dR^iDhatArUp j~nAyakakA bhAvabhAsan usakI a.ntarakI pariNatime.n AnA chAhiye. aur use vah TikAye to vah Age jAtA hai. vedan arthAt svAnubhUtikA vedan vah nahI.n, parantu j~nAyakakA j~nAyakatArUp vedana.

mumukShuH- savikalpa dashAme.n j~nAyakakI pariNati j~nAname.n grahaN honI chAhiye.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, j~nAname.n grahaN honI chAhiye ki ye j~nAyak j~nAyakarUp hai. vah use j~nAname.n grahaN honI chAhiye aur usakI dR^iDhatA honI chAhiye a.ntarame.n. usakI dR^iShTi vahA.N sthApit ho jAnI chAhiye. usakI dR^iShTi usame.n dR^iDh honI chAhiye. j~nAyak j~nAyakarUp hai, vahI mai.n hU.N. isaliye usakI ata.nrakI pariNatikI pUrI dishA palaT jAtI hai.

mumukShuH- pakaDame.n Aye vah j~nAnakA vedan?

samAdhAnaH- vah j~nAnakA vedan hai. vah j~nAyakakA vedan hai. svAnubhUtikA nahI.n, parantu j~nAyakakA bhAvakA bhAsan hai. bhAvabhAsan hai.

mumukShuH- use rAg aur is j~nAyakakI pariNati dono.nkA bhed j~nAname.n pakaDame.n AtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- j~nAname.n pakaDame.n AtA hai, yah rAg hai aur yah j~nAn hai. use a.ntarame.n- se pakaDame.n A jAnA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- aisI pratItikI dR^iDhatA ho vah usakA TikanA hai?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, vah TikanA (hai). pratItikI dR^iDhatA honI chAhiye.

mumukShuH- j~nAname.n pakaDame.n AtA jAy, vaise rAgakA jo svAmItva athavA rAgakA vedan patalA paDatA jAtA hai, kaise hotA hai?

samAdhAnaH- usakA svAmItva andarase ChUTatA jAya. rAg mai.n nahI.n hU.N aur yah mai.n hU.N. aise. yathArtha sahajarUp bAdame.n hotA hai, parantu use us prakArase ChUTatA jAtA hai. mai.n isakA svAmI nahI.n hU.N, mai.n mere j~nAyakarUp hU.N. bhinnakA bhinnarUp use bhAvabhAsan hotA hai. abhI usakI dR^iDhatA karatA jAtA hai, use sahajarUp nahI.n huA hai. usakI pariNatime.n vah grahaN karate jAtA hai ki mai.n isase bhinna hI hU.N, mai.n isakA svAmI nahI.n hU.N. merA chaitanyatattva is vibhAvase bhinna tattva hai, nirAlA hU.N. aisA use a.ntarame.n-se bhinnatAkA bhAvabhAsan hotA jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- anek jagah aisA AyA hai ki isake sa.nskAr DAle tabase samyak sanmukhatA hai. sa.nskAr Dalaneke bAd to dUsare bhavame.n, is bhavame.n prApta nahI.n karegA to dUsare bhavame.n

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bhI prApta karegA. to utanA AyuShyakA la.nbA kAl aur dUsare bhavame.n bhI amuk kAl jAy, phir sa.nskArakI jAgR^iti ho. to utanI la.nbI samyak sanmukhatA (rahatI hai)?

samAdhAnaH- andar sa.nskAr paDe hai.n na ki mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, yah mai.n nahI.n hU.N. aisI j~nAyakakI andar gaharI ruchi aur pratIti huyI hai. j~nAyak, ek j~nAyakake sivA mujhe kuCh nahI.n chAhiye aur mai.n j~nAyak hI hU.N. j~nAyakakI use mahimA AyI hai, j~nAyakakI apUrvatA lagatI hai. j~nAyak mAne use rUkhA nahI.n hai, parantu apUrva ruchipUrvak use j~nAyak grahaN huA hai. to use a.ntarame.n jo sa.nskAr paDe hai.n, pariNati abhI bhedaj~nAnarUp sahaj nahI.n huyI hai, parantu aise sa.nskAr paDe hai.n to bhale hI dUsare bhavame.n jAy to a.ntarame.n- se sphUrit ho jAte hai.n.

mumukShuH- tab takakA kA kAl samyak sanmukhatAkA kahalAyagA?

samAdhAnaH- vah samyakatva sanmukh hai. bhale abhI use bhedaj~nAnakI pariNati chAlU nahI.n huyI hai, parantu abhI sanmukhatA hai. sanmukhatA abhI kAryarUp nahI.n huyI hai. kAraN, yathArtha kAraN kAraNarUp rah gayA hai, kArya Aneme.n der lage.

mumukShuH- sachamuchame.n use lagan lage to ChaH mAsame.n ho jAya. aur aise sa.nskAr paDe ho to la.nbA kAl nikal jAya.

samAdhAnaH- vah utkR^iShTakI apekShAse bAt hai.

mumukShuH- dono.n apekShA bhinna-bhinna hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- vah ugra puruShArtha kare to pahale to a.ntarmuhUrtame.n ho jAya. parantu usase amuk prakArase kare aur ek dhArAvAhI prayatna karatA hai to aise ChaH mahine (kahA).

mumakShuH- dhArAvAhI prayatna chale. samAdhAnaH- ugra prayatna ho to ChaH mahine (lagate hai.n). aur ye to abhI manda- manda puruShArtha hai, isaliye la.nbA samay lagatA hai. apanA puruShArtha chAlU hI hai. vah ekadam ugra kare to a.ntarmuhUrtame.n jAtA hai. ye amuk prakArase kare to ChaH mahine lagate hai.n. aur vah jise sa.nskAr paDe, lekin vah aisA puruShArtha nahI.n karatA hai. isaliye use sa.nskAr paDe hai.n, kAryarUp nahI.n hue hai.n. ... puruShArtha karatA nahI.n hai, isaliye la.nbA kAl nikal jAtA hai. kare, manda kare, aisA karate-karate use la.nbA kAl nikal jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- ChoTe bAlakakI bhA.Nti, khaDe honA sIkhe, gire, phirase khaDA ho..

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, vaise karatA hai. .. kAl aise hI chalA jAtA hai. karatA nahI.n hai. utkR^iShTame.n utkR^iShTa is tarah ardha pudagal parAvartan chalA jAya. parantu anda sa.nskAr paDe hai.n na. aise pITh nahI.n pherI hai, lekin mandatA hai to dUsare bhavame.n bhI prApta hotA hai.

mumukShuH- hame.n to aisA thA ki brahmachArI bahano.nne..

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samAdhAnaH- sUchanA dI ho.

mumukShuH- thrI DAyamenshanase gaharAI ho, mAtAjI! ekadam mAno kitanA dUr-dUr ho, holame.n mAno.n gurudev dUr baiThe ho.n, itanA baDA lage. chitra ChoTA ho, parantu andar gaharAI bahut lage. dUrase pravachaname.n baiThe ho.n aur dekhe to ye kyA! sAkShAt dUrase gurudev pravachan de rahe ho. dhodh aur kiraNe.n...

mumukShuH- jo dhodhakA hai vah bahut sundar thA.

samAdhAnaH- sUchanA dI ho, phir sabane kiyA. peinTarane (kiyA). itane sAlase koI mel nahI.n khA rahA thA, is sAl mel baiTh gayA.

mumukShuH- prinTarane yahA.N rahakar hI kiyA. bahut sundara.

samAdhAnaH- .. karavAyA thA. karate-karate achChA ho jAtA hai. phir kahA, aisA kuCh karate hai.n. gat varShase ho rahA thA, is sAl ho gayA. .. kAm karate rahate hai.n. aise to kitane prasa.ng bane ho.n. ye to sa.nkShiptame.n kaise A jAy (utanA). sab to chitrit nahI.n kar sakate. gurudevane kitane vihAr kiye hai.n, koI vidvAn Aye ho.n, kuCh-kuCh prasa.ng bane ho.n, sab to chitrit nahI.n kar sakate. sa.nkShepame.n A jAy, us prakArase khAs- khAs (liye hai.n).

... sab prasa.ng chitrit nahI.n kar sakate. dIkShAke bAd turanta parivartanakA chitra liyA hai. gurudev paDhate hai.n.

mumukShuH- dhUlI nishAla. Apane sab samAviShTa kar liyA hai.

samAdhAnaH- gurudev thoDA phire hai.n, bAdame.n unho.nne nakkI kiyA. boTAd sa.npradAyame.n hIrAjI mahArAjake pAs dIkShA lenekA (nishchit kiyA).

mumukShuH- TreIn rakhakar Apane bahut achChA dikhAyA hai. phirate hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- gurudevane kitano baraso.n tak vANIkI varShA kI hai. mUsalAdhAr vANI barasAyI hai. isaliye pAnIkA dhodh usame.n batAyA hai. vah kuCh hAthase nahI.n karanA hotA hai, sUchanA denI hotI hai. tattvake bhI Aye aur sab Aye. gurudevake pratApase sab hotA hai.

mumukShuH- ek orase bhAvanAkA ullAs batAnA aur dUsarI or aisA kahanA kAle sarpa jaisA dikhatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- .. jo rAg ho vah to dev-guru-shAstrakI or hotA hai. (munirAj) ChaThave.n-sAtave.n guNasthAname.n jhUlate hai.n. to bhI bAhar Ate hai.n to shAstrakI rachanA karate hai.n, shrutakA chi.ntavan karate hai.n aur bhagavAnakI bhaktike shlok rachate hai.n. padmana.ndI AchAryane kaise shlok rache hai.n! prabhu! ApakI bhakti karate hue indrane hAth Upar kiye to bAdalo.nke do TUkaDe ho gaye. aisA shlok AtA hai.

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(Ap dIkShA lekar gaye to) nadI kal-kal (AvAj karatI hai), us bahAne nadI ro rahI hai. aise sab shlok rache hai.n. us kShaN bhedaj~nAn, j~nAyakakI pariNatikI ugratA, sab munio.nko pratikShaN vartatA hI hai. ek kShaN bhUl jAy aur dUsarI kShaName.n Aye, aisA nahI.n hotA. usI kShaN unhe.n j~nAyakakI pariNati bhinna (vartatI hai) aur usI kShaN shrutakA chi.ntavan, bhaktike shlok rachate hai.n, sab karate hai.n. ek kShaN bhUl jAte hai.n aur dUsarI kShaN yAd AtA hai, aisA nahI.n hai. usI kShaN j~nAyakakI dhArA bhinna aur ye prashasta bhAv Aye.n vah dhArA bhinna hai. dono.n dhArA sAthame.n vartatI hai.

mumukShuH- aur j~nAyakakI dhArA to avichChinna jo chalatI hai...

samAdhAnaH- j~nAyakakI dhArA avichChinna rahatI hai, vah to akhaNDit hai. rAgakI dhArA to TUT jAtI hai. svarUpame.n upayog jAy, nirvikalpa dashA hotI hai, vahA.N vah rAg to TUT jAtA hai. dR^iShTime.n vah akhaNDa rahatA hai. vah to TUTatI nahI.n.

... koI tattvake, adhyAtmake likhe. koI dhavalake shAstra likhe. anek jAtake vikalpa bAhar Ate hai.n tab hote hai.n.

mumukShuH- vah sab aise to likhate hai.n, sab kram rahatA hogA? kyo.nki toDapatra jo likhe hote hai.n, vah to apane pAs rakhate nahI.n. to usame.n kram sa.nkhyA dete ho.nge? kaise hogA?

samAdhAnaH- kram to kuCh karate ho.nge. ve to ChoD dete haiai.n. kram mil jAy aise likhate ho.n na. shlokakI sa.nkhyA Adi AtA hai. shAstrakI prIti hai unhe.n. shlok sa.nkhyAkA mel Aye aisA likhate ho.nge. shrutakI bhakti hai, isaliye sumel pUrvak likhate hai.n. kitane shAstra likhe. ye to itane bAhar Aye, isake alAvA aisA kahA jAtA hai ki kitane hI likhe hai.n. apramatta-pramatta dashAme.n jhulate-jhulate bAhar Aye, vahA.N kalam chalatI hai. phir likhakar vaname.n vicharate hai.n. phirase likhate hai.n.

mumukShuH- shAstra likhakar jab chale jAte hai.n, to phir tADapatrI...

samAdhAnaH- kuCh kalam karate hai.n. kahI.n rakhate ho.n, guphAme.n yA kahI.n bhI rakhate ho.n. phir vApas Akar likhate ho.n, kuCh bhI karate ho.n.

mumukShuH- samyagdR^iShTi ... pesh kare ki kisI bhI prakArase jIvako..

samAdhAnaH- AtmAkI pahachAn ho. anek prakArase usakA vistAr karate hai.n. ek AtmA-shuddhAtmAko pahachAnaneke liye. usakA mUl svarUp pahachAnaneke liye usakI sAdhanA kaisI hotI hai, usakI sAdhakadashA kaisI hotI hai, usakA sAdhya, use dR^iShTi kahA.N rakhanI, Adi anek prakArase vistAr karate hai.n.

mumukShuH- .. jyAdA nidrA nahI.n hotI. ekasAth paun saika.nDase jyAdA nidrA nahI.n

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hotI yA pUre divas daramyAn?

samAdhAnaH- ekasAth aisI nidrA nahI.n hotI. paun saikaNDa nidrA hotI hai. pIChalI rayana. pUre diname.n to unhe.n nidrA hotI nahI.n. pIChalI rayan paun saikaNDa yAnI ekasAth utanI nidrA nahI.n hotI. paun saikaNDa hote hI jAgR^it ho jAya.

mumukShuH- pIChalI rayaname.n ek bAr aise nahI.n, jyAdA bAr bhI..

samAdhAnaH- aisA artha honA chAhiye. paun saikaNDa hote hI jAgR^it ho jAya. ekasAth nidrAdhIn ho jAy, aisA nahI.n. paun saikaNDame.n jAgR^it ho jAya.

samAdhAnaH- .. puNyabandha hotA hai (to) devalok hotA hai. usase bhavakA abhAv to nahI.n hotA. bhavakA abhAv to shuddhAtmAko pahachAnane-se hotA hai. shubhabhAv bIchame.n Ate haiai.n, dev-guru-shAstrake. parantu shuddhAtmA to vikalpase bhinna hai. bhAvanA achChI na ho to achChA nahI.n hotA hai. taiyArI apaneko karanI hai. kahI.n-se AyA to hogA aur kahA.N jAnA hogA, parantu bhAvanA achChI karanA. AtmAko pIChAnane se achChA hotA hai.

mumukShuH- chaturtha guNasthAname.n kitane-kitane dino.nme.n AtA rahatA hai? yA la.nbA TAIm khI.Nch lete hai.n?

samAdhAnaH- usakA koI niyam nahI.n hotA hai. kisIko jaldI hotA hai, kisIko derase bhI hotA hai. lekin hotA to hai. hotA to jarUr hai. kisIko la.nbA samay lage upayog bAhar rahatA ho to. kisIko jaldI hotA hai. jisakI a.ntarakI dashA jaisI ho vaise hotA hai. chaturtha guNasthAname.n svAnubhUti to hotI hai.

mumukShuH- TAIm vAIs bArah mahinA, tIn mahinA..

samAdhAnaH- TAIm bArah mahinA aisA nahI.n hotA hai, aisA nahI.n hotA hai. itanA la.nbA samay nahI.n nikalatA hai. aisA la.nbA samay nahI.n hotA hai.

mumukShuH- andarakI kyA sthiti hotI hai, jisame.n nirvikalpa..

samAdhAnaH- usako bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA rahatI hai. kShaN-kShaName.n upayog bAhar jAy to bhI bhedaj~nAnakI pariNati usako rahatI hai. usako vichAr nahI.n karanA paDatA hai, sahaj rahatA hai. pahale ekatva ho jAy, bAdame.n vichAr kare ki mai.n judA hU.N, aisA vichAr karake nahI.n, vah to sahaj rahatI hai. bAhar upayog hove, vikalpa hove, to bhI usakA kShaN- kShaN bhedaj~nAn rahatA hai.

mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, aisI pariNati sahaj rahatI hai. j~nAyakakI A.nshik shAnti usako rahatI hai. ekatva nahI.n ho jAtA hai. aisI dashA, koI alag, jagatase judI-nyArI usakI dR^iShTikI dishA badal jAtI hai.

mumukShuH- jis samay andarame.n nirvikalpa j~nAnakA Ananda hotA hai, usakI kyA

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dhArA hai? matalab kyA rUp hai usakA?

samAdhAnaH- vikalpa ChUTakar svAnubhUti (hotI hai). jo AtmAkA svarUp hai vah use vedaname.n AtA hai. usakA koI apUrva Ananda hai, vah vachaname.n nahI.n AtA hai. jo anubhUti hotI hai use vah jAnatA hai. vah vachaname.n nahI.n AtA.

vah to koI apUrva hai, jagatase nyArI hai. usakI dR^iShTi, svAnubhUti-vedan palaT jAtA hai. bAharakA kuCh khyAl nahI.n hai usako. bAhar kyA hotA hai, usakA use dhyAn nahI.n rahatA. vikalpase ChUT jAtA hai aur svAnubhUtime.n bhItarame.n chalA jAtA hai. aur bhItar gaharA chaitanyame.n chalA jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- kitanA samay?

samAdhAnaH- usako a.ntarmuhUrta rahatA hai. thoDA la.nbA, kam,... a.ntarmuhUrta rahatA hai. usakI sthiti a.ntarmuhUrtakI hai.

mumukShuH- Ananda .. to usake liye puruShArtha kyA?

samAdhAnaH- vah to sahaj bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA usako rahatI hai. vah sahaj rahatI hai. bAhar Aye to ekatva nahI.n hotA, bhinna hI rahatA hai. usakI dhArA hI rahatI hai. j~nAtAdhAr aur udayadhArA dono.n bhinna chalatI hai. vah usakA kAraN hai. bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA isakA kAraN hai. dravya par dR^iShTi rahatI hai.

mumukShuH- samyagdR^iShTikI pahachAn ho sakatI hai kyA?

samAdhAnaH- jisako yathArtha jij~nAsA hotI hai vah pahachAn sakatA hai. jisakI dR^iShTi aur AtmAko pahachAnaneme.n jisakI jij~nAsA lagatI hai, merA yathArtha svarUp kyA hai? AtmA kyA hai? j~nAnI kaun hai? usakA kyA svarUp hai? usakI jisako jij~nAsA lagatI hai, vah pIChAn sakatA hai. yathArtha jij~nAsA honI chAhiye. to pIChAn sakatA hai. gurudevane sab mArga pragaT kiyA hai.

mumukShuH- ApakI bhI kR^ipA hai. ab to Ap hI (hamAre liye ho.n). samAdhAnaH- .. svarUpako pahachAne, sabako yathArtha dR^iShTi (karavAyI), mArga batA diyA hai. mumukShuH- mArga batA diyA. samAdhAnaH- mArga batA diyA.