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samAdhAnaH- .. aise gurudev the. vah labdharUp alag hai aur yah labdharUp alag hai. use svaya.nko chaitanya nij astitvame.n grahaN huA hai. aur vah astitva svaya.n grahaN karake phir svAnubhUtime.n jo vedan huA hai, vah vedan use... vah parokSha hai usame.n aur yah parokSha hai, isame.n pharka hai. dono.n labdharUp (hai.n), lekin us labdha-labdhame.n pharka hai.

mumukShuH- vah to smaraNamAtra hai ki..

samAdhAnaH- smaraNamAtra hai. ye to chaitanyako svaya.n chaitanyakA vedan (huA hai). upayog bAhar hai. usakI svAnubhUti abhI nahI.n hai, lekin chaitanyakA jo astitva hai vah astitva to usake hAthame.n hai. savikalpa dashAme.n bhI usakA astitva to usake hAthame.n hai. aur upayog apanI or Aye to shIghra usakA vedan ho sake aisA hai. vah use smaraNamAtra nahI.n hai. vah parokSha aur yah parokShame.n pharka hai.

mumukShuH- Ap kal aisA bole the ki najarame.n pratyakSha hai.

samAdhAnaH- usakI najar sthApit hai, chaitanya par najar sthApit hai. ye to samIp hai. gurudevakA hai vah dUravartI hai, chaitanya to svaya.nko samIp hI hai. aur upayog badale to bhI svAnubhUtikA vedan turanta usake hAthame.n hai, Dor usake hAthame.n hai. vah parokSha aur is parokShame.n a.ntar hai. labdha hai, lekin ughADarUp hai. use ughAD aisA hai ki andar upayog lIn ho to use svAnubhUtikA vedan usI kShaN ho sake aisA hai.

mumukShuH- upayog laDAIkA ho to bhI svAnubhUtikA vedan..

samAdhAnaH- upayog laDAIme.n (bhale ho), lekin Dor apane hAthame.n hai. upayog us or hai, lekin upayog palaT sake aisA hai. svaya.n pariNati palaTe to svaya.n apaneme.n lIn ho sake aisA hai. Dor apane hAthame.n hai. astitva apanA grahaN (kiyA hai). bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA chAlU hai. Dor usake hAthame.n hI hai.

mumukShuH- nI.ndame.n ho to bhI najar vahA.N sthApit hai?

samAdhAnaH- najar chaitanya par sthApit hai. chaitanyako ChoDakar svaya.n ekadam bAhar nahI.n chalA gayA hai. usakA upayog bAhar gayA hai. parantu dR^iShTi to usame.n sthApit hI

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hai. gharame.n khaDe hue manuShyakI dR^iShTi bAhar (hai), ghar ChoDakar nahI.n gayA hai. gharake bAhar khaDA ho to, ek pair gharake andar aur ek pair gharake bAhar, ye to sthUl dR^iShTAnta hai. vaise ghar ChoDakar bAhar nahI.n chalA gayA hai, usakA upayog bAhar gayA hai. usakA upayog palaTe to usakA kadam apanI or A sake aisA hai. lekin puruShArthakI kamajorIke kAraN usakA upayog bAhar gayA hai. aur savikalpakI dhArA, j~nAtAkI dhArA chAlU hai. upayog palaTe to svaya.n apaneme.n svAnubhUtikA vedan kar sake aisA hai. lekin usakI dashA anusAr hotA hai. usakI jaisI bhUmikA ho, us anusAr hotA hai. dR^iShTi andar chaitanyame.n hai, upayog bAhar gayA hai.

mumukShuH- ChaThave.n guNasthAname.n dR^iShTi andar chaitanyame.n hai. upayog bAhar hai.

samAdhAnaH- dR^iShTi to chaitanyame.n hai. chauthe guNasthAname.n dR^iShTi chaitanyame.n hai aur ChaThave.n guNasthAname.n dR^iShTi chaitanyame.n hai. ChaThave.n guNasthAname.n upayog bAhar hai, lekin usame.n unakI lInatA, dR^iShTike sAth lInatA adhik hai. chaturtha guNasthAname.n dR^iShTike sAth usakI lInatA, svarUpAcharaN chAritra jitanA pragaT huA utanI lInatA hai. aur ChaThave.n guNasthAname.n usakI lInatA baDh gayI hai. dR^iShTike sAth lInatA bhI hai. lekin upayog bAhar gayA hai, utanI lInatA (kam hai), abhI kevalaj~nAn nahI.n hai, isaliye utanI lInatAme.n kShati hai. parantu ChaThave.n guNasthAnakI lInatA to hai.

savikalpatAme.n bhI dR^iShTi hai, usake sAth lInatA bhI hai. ChaThave.n guNasthAname.n usakI bhUmikA ChaThave.n guNasthAnakI hai, isaliye utanI lInatA, savikalpatAme.n bhI utanI lInatA hai, lekin upayog bAhar (gayA hai). a.ntarame.n jAy to vah sAtavI.n bhUmikA hotI hai. parantu savikalpatAme.n bhI ChaThavI.n bhUmikAme.n jitanI dR^iShTi sthApit hai, usake sAth lInatA bhI hai. ChaThave.n guNasthAname.n akelI dR^iShTi hai aisA nahI.n hai, usake sAth lInatA bhI hai. utanI chAritrakI dashA sAthame.n hai.

mumukShuH- Ap jo kahate ho ki pariNati gADh hotI jAtI hai, to vah lInatA baDhatI jAtI hai.

samAdhAnaH- lInatA baDhatI jAtI hai. aur amuk prakArase lInatA, ChaThave.n guNasthAname.n ChaThavI.n bhUmikAkI lInatA hai. aisI lInatA hai ki upayog a.ntarmuhUrta bAhar jAy, phir a.ntarmuhUrtake bAd a.ntarame.n AtA hI. aisI usakI ugra lInatA hai. bAra.nbAr upayog a.ntarame.n AtA hai. a.ntarmuhUrta-a.ntarmuhUrtame.n. chaturtha bhUmikAme.n a.ntarmuhUrta-a.ntarmuhUrtame.n andar nahI.n A sakatA hai. kyo.nki usakI bhUmikA amuk hai. aur ChaThave.n-sAtave.nme.n to a.ntarmuhUrtame.n a.ntarame.n AtA hai.

mumukShuH- .. yah ChaThavA.N hai, vah kaise mAlUm paDe? usakI lInatA parase khyAl

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AtA hai?

samAdhAnaH- usakI lInatA parase. usakI svAnubhUtikI dashA aur savikalpatAkI lInatA amuk prakArakI (hotI hai). ChaThave.n guNasthAnakI lInatA pragaT ho to use gR^ihasthAshramake vikalpa bhI ChUT jAte hai.n. ChaThavI.n bhUmikAme.n munikI dashA pragaT hotI hai. pA.NchavI.n bhUmikA Aye tab usake vikalpa amuk prakArake ho jAte hai.n aur lInatA bhI a.ntarame.n visheSh hotI hai. dR^iShTike sAth lInatA baDh jAtI hai.

mumukShuH- arthAt jitanI nirvikalpa dashA huyI, utanI hI lInatA huyI, aisA nahI.n.

samAdhAnaH- nirvikalpa dashA par bhI usakA nAp hai, parantu usakI vartamAn jo lInatA hai us par usakA nAp hai. usakI bhUmikA pUrI palaT jAtI hai. ChaThavI.n bhUmikA ho gayI. ChaThave.n-sAtave.n guNasthAname.n aisI usakI dashA (palaT jAtI hai). vartamAn nirvikalpa dashA to baDhatI gayI, lekin vartamAn jo savikalpa dhArA hai, us savikalpatAme.n bhI usakI lInatA visheSh hai. bhedaj~nAnakI j~nAyakatAkI ugratA aur lInatA visheSh hai. use jo amuk prakArake vikalpa (hote hai.n), vah vikalpa amuk prakArake hI Ate hai.n. j~nAyakakI utanI lInatA baDh jAtI hai, savikalpatAme.n bhI.

mumukShuH- ChaThave.n guNasthAname.n do jIv ho.n to dono.nkI lInatAme.n pharka hogA.

samAdhAnaH- usakI bhUmikA ek hai. isaliye bhUmikA palaTe... vartamAname.n tAratamyatA hotI hai, lInatAme.n tAratamyatA ho sakatI hai. svarUpAcharaN chAritrame.n usakI tAratamyatAme.n pheraphAr ho sakatA hai.

mumukShuH- samyagdR^iShTi jIvakI prasha.nsA karate ho to vah lInatAkI apekShAse prasha.nsA karate hai.n? ki inakI lInatA visheSh hai, inakI lInatA kam hai.

samAdhAnaH- gurudev kyA kahate ho.n, vah gurudevakA abhiprAy...

mumukShuH- vachanAmR^itame.n jagah-jagah bhAvanAkA mahatva bahut AtA hai. to bhAvanA paryApta hai?

samAdhAnaH- vah to pratham bhUmikAme.n bhAvanA AtI hai. phir to samyagdarshan, chAritra dashA baDhatI jAtI hai. pahale jisane kuCh prApta nahI.n kiyA hai, use bhAvanA (AtI hai). svaya.n yathArtha bhAvanA kare to phal Aye. bhAvanA ho to use puruShArtha hue binA rahatA hI nahI.n.

usakI bhAvanA ugra ho ki mujhe chaitanya hI chAhiye, dUsarA kuCh nahI.n chAhiye, aisI a.ntarame.n se bhAvanA ho to usake sAth puruShArtha bhI pragaT hue binA rahatA hI nahI.n. yadi use us jAtakI bhAvanA nahI.n hai, a.ntar chaitanyakI or ruchi nahI.n hai, bhAvanA nahI.n hai to usakA puruShArtha bhI us or jAtA nahI.n. ruchi ho, bhAvanA ho to hI

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usakA puruShArtha (us or jAtA hai).

bAharakI ruchi aur bAharakI bhAvanA ho to puruShArtha apanI or muDatA nahI.n. isaliye bhAvanA, jij~nAsA ugra kare to apanI or puuruShArtha muD sakatA hai. apanI ruchike binA kArya hotA nahI.n. ruchi aur bhAvanA ho to puruShArtha hotA hai. shurUAtakI bhUmikAme.n vah bhAvanA AtI hai. terI bhAvanA yathArtha hogI to kArya hogA.

mumukShuH- bhAvanA ugra ho to dUsare kAraN svataH prApta ho jAte hai.n?

samAdhAnaH- to kAraN prApta ho jAte hai.n. terI bhAvanA ugra ho to sab kAraN a.ntarame.n prApta ho jAye.nge. terI bhAvanA... yadi tujhe a.ntarame.n chain na paDe ki mujhe chaitanya prApta ho to hI shAnti hogI, chaitanyake binA shAnti na ho, chaitanyakA svabhAv pragaT na ho tabatak use chain na paDe aisI bhAvanA ho to use sarva kAraN prApta ho jAte hai.n.

mumukShuH- bAharame.n duHkh lage to andar Aye binA rahe nahI.n aur dUsarI jagah aisA hai ki ekAnta duHkhake balase bhinna paDe aisA nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- bAharame.n yadi use ruchi lagatI ho aur bAharame.n sukh lage to vah vApas hI nahI.n muDatA. isaliye bAhar kahI.n sukh nahI.n hai. bAharame.n AkulatA aur duHkh hI hai. is prakAr duHkh lage to vApas muDe. lekin akelA duHkh-duHkh karatA rahe aur apanA astitva grahaN na kare to bhI a.ntarame.n A nahI.n sakatA. apanA astitva grahaN kare ki bAhar to duHkh hai, lekin sukh kahA.N hai? sukh meere AtmAme.n hai. ek j~nAyakako grahaN kare, svabhAv grahaN kare to vApas muDe.

sab Asrav AkulatArUp hai, viparIt hai, duHkh hai, duHkhakA kAraN hai, aisA use a.ntarame.n ho. parantu mai.n kaun hU.N? aise yadi nij astitva grahaN na ho to ye sab duHkh hai, duHkh hai aisA karate rahanese, ekAnta aisA karanese nahI.n hotA. us duHkhake pICh nij astitva grahaN ho to pragaT ho. duHkh bhI lage aur apanA svabhAv kyA hai, use bhI grahaN kare, to pragaT ho.

lekin paraspar sambandha hai. jise duHkh lage vah svaya.nko a.ntarame.n khoje binA nahI.n rahatA. aur jo nij astitva yathArtha rUpase grahaN karatA hai, use bAharame.n duHkh lage binA nahI.n rahatA. aisA asti-nAstikA sambandha hI hai. apanA astitva grahaN kare to bAharase yah merA svarUp nahI.n hai, aisA nAstitva A jAtA hai. aur ye vibhAv hai vah duHkharUp hai, merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. is prakAr use astipUrvak nAsti Aye. yathArtha astiko grahaN kare to usame.n vibhAvakI nAsti A hI jAtI hai. ekadUsareko sambandha hai.

lekin yah vibhAv mujhe nahI.n chAhiye, vah astipUrvak yadi grahaN kare to use

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yathArthapane duHkh lagA hai. yadi astitva grahaN nahI.n karatA hai to yathArtha duHkh nahI.n lagA hai. ananta kAlase aisA to kiyA ki ye sab duHkh hai, duHkh hai. aise ChoDanekA prayatna kiyA. parantu a.ntarase yadi sachchA duHkh lage to use astitva grahaN hue binA rahatA nahI.n. yathArtha laganA chAhiye. to astitva grahaN ho, to hI vah duHkhase bhinna paDatA hai.

ananta kAlase bahut bAr yah duHkh hai, aisA vairAgya kiyA, lekin astitva grahaN nahI.n kiyA. astitva grahaN kare to vah duHkh lage. yathArtha duHkh lage to astitva grahaN kare. usakA artha yah hai ki ananta kAlase duHkh lagA, lekin sachchA duHkh hI nahI.n lagA hai. sachchA duHkh lage to astitva grahaN karatA hI hai.

mumukShuH- dono.nko paraspar sambandha hai.

samAdhAnaH- paraspar sambandha hai.

mumukShuH- .. AtmA j~nAnasvarUp hai, aisA svIkAr karanA. aur dUsarI or aisA kahanA ki rAg-dveShake pariNAm mere hai.n, aisA svIkAr karanA.

samAdhAnaH- mere nahI.n hai, mere hai.n aisA nahI.n. j~nAnasvarUp hU.N, aise grahaN (kar). mere hai.n arthAt merI ashuddha pariNatime.n hote hai.n, parantu vah merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. mere hai.n, vah aha.npanA to anAdi kAlase hai. svAmItvabuddhi nahI.n, parantu merI ashuddha pariNatime.n vah hotA hai. mai.n merA svabhAv usase bhinna hai, mai.n j~nAyak hU.N. ye merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. aise usakA bhedaj~nAn kare. mere puruShArthakI mandatAse hotA hai, parantu vah merA hai aisA nahI.n. usakA svAmItva ChoDanA hai. merA hai, aisA nahI.n. vah merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. mere puruShArthakI mandatAse hotA hai, parantu merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. usakA bhedaj~nAn kare ki mai.n j~nAyak hU.N aur ye vibhAv hai.

mumukShuH- (rAgAdi) pariNAm pudagalakA hai.

samAdhAnaH- pudagalakA hai aise nahI.n, vah to pudagalake nimittase hotA hai. pudagalakA hai arthAt svaya.n kuCh karatA nahI.n aur svaya.n shuddha hai aur vah pudagal hai, aisA nahI.n. apanI ashuddha paryAyame.n hotA hai. lekin apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai. merA hai aise grahaN nahI.n karanA hai. vah merA aur mai.n usakA, aise ekatvabuddhi nahI.n (karanI hai). ekatvabuddhi toDanI hai. mai.n j~nAyak aur vah merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. mujhase bhinna hai. lekin mere puruShArthakI mandatAse hotA hai, puruShArthakI mandatAse hotA hai.

bhedaj~nAn karanA. jaDakA hI aisA nahI.n. parantu mere puruShArthakI mandatAse, puruShArthakI mandatAse hotA hai. siddha bhagavAn jaise shuddha nirmal hai.n, vaisA mai.n shAshvat dravya nirmal hU.N. parantu vah merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. lekin hotA hai vah merI paryAyame.n hotA hai, parantu vah merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. use svaya.nme.n ekatvarUp mAnanA nahI.n, tathApi jaDakA hai aisA

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bhI nahI.n. parantu apane puruShArthakI mandatAse hotA hai, merA svabhAv nahI.n hai.

(pudagalake) nimittase hotA hai isaliye pudagalakA. parantu apane puruShArthakI mandatAse hotA hai, isaliye apanI paryAyame.n, chetanakI paryAyame.n hotA hai. parantu svabhAv apanA nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- prIti chitten sunI hai, vah bhAvi nirvAN bhAjanam, usame.n ham A gaye ki nahI.n?

samAdhAnaH- jisane prItise sunA vah sab A jAte hai.n. a.ntarakI prItise sunA vah sab A hI jAte hai.n. aise gurudev mile, aisI apUrva vANI barasAyI. a.ntar prItise jisane bAt sunI, usakA svaya.nkA hR^iday kah de ki mai.n A gayA ki nahI.n A gayA. jisane svaya.nne a.ntar prItise vArtA sunI vah A hI jAtA hai. usakA svaya.nkA AtmA hI bolatA hai. svaya.nko kitanI prIti hai, tattvakI ruchi hai, gurudevakI vANI jo tattva batAtI hai, usakI ruchi svaya.nko kitanI hai, vah svaya.n hI svaya.nkA AtmA batA detA hai.

... anAdikA abhyAs hai. karanekA yah tattva gurudevane batAyA, aisA apUrva tattva samajhanekA abhI avasar hai. gurudevane jo batAyA hai, vah mahimAva.nt tattva hai. puruShArthako badal denA. anAdikA abhyAs hai usame.n palaT jAy to bhI badal denA. karanekA ek hI hai.

mumukShuH- dravya aur paryAyakI bhinnatAkI bAte.n bahut karate the. aur Ap dravya eva.n paryAyakI abhinnatAkI bAte.n bahut karate ho, abhiprAy to dono.nkA ek hai.

samAdhAnaH- abhiprAy to ek hI hai. gurudev bahut karate the aisA nahI.n, pravachaname.n jab vah viShay Aye tab ve kahate the. aur jab dravya-paryAy, pravachanasArake pravachan ho.n to gurudev usame.n dUsare prakArase kahate the. jis prakArakA viShay ho, pravachaname.n jo gAthA AyI ho, us anusAr gurudev kahate the. gurudevakA Ashay vaisA hI thA.